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(Fox News)   Officials at Denver University decide to retire their mascot--which is not Daniel Boone and doesn't look like Daniel Boone--so as not to offend people who think it is Daniel Boone. FARK: There are people offended by Daniel Boone   (foxnews.com) divider line 173
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2013-08-21 10:24:32 AM
Why pick Boone when they could have been the Blutos?
 
2013-08-21 10:29:55 AM

ristst: Highroller48: KarmicDisaster: Daniel Boone was a man. He was a BIIIIIIG man.

+5 internets for not being from Canada and still knowing that song.

Excuse me if this has been addressed already, but I don't understand what being from Canada has to do with the theme song to an American TV show that ran for 6 seasons.  Every kid in school knew the song.

I can remember throwing a hatchet at a small tree repeatedly in a lame attempt to split it down the middle like Fess Parker did in the opening credits.  (it never worked)

And Ed Ames had a second career as a singer, my sister had a single he cut called "My cup runeth over with love"


There's a Canadian comedy duo from the 70's and 80's called McLean and McLean who had a similar song.  MIstakenly thought you were referencing that.  Totally missed the TV show reference.
 
2013-08-21 10:35:55 AM
I'm liberal on a number of issues (conservative on others)
and this stupid PC crap is why I'll NEVER identify as liberal
 
2013-08-21 10:44:27 AM

JesusJuice: I don't see why some people are so offended by references to US expansion just because of the Indians.  They were technologically and culturally unsophisticated and were naturally displaced by those who were not.  This has happened countless times throughout history, and nobody owes anybody an apology for it.


The genocide of the Native American peoples happened just soon enough before genocide became a horrible crime against humanity (instead of business-as-usual which, as you note, it had been for the rest of human history) that some of the victorious people have managed to be embarrassed about it.
 
2013-08-21 10:58:02 AM
Once again progressives have addressed an important issue  of the day, finding a school mascot  that <i>women, persons of color, international students and faculty members </i> can relate to.  We are one step closer to that utopia folks.

Obviously this is a challenge, pandering to so many different groups.

Since a majority of  most college population is female the mascot will have to be female , at least in outward appearance.  However they will have to make it clear the mascot is post op female so both women and the gender confuse can relate to it.  It will also have to be at least appear biracial to be something minorities can relate to, perhaps a dark skin coloring with Asian facial features.  It could also wear a rainbow Hijab showing solidarity with the LGBT and Islamic community.  The rest of the mascot should be wearing a mix of Arapahoe an Ute tribal dress to represent the American Indian tribes that fought each other in the Denver area (Utes mostly won that but we cannot show favorites).  A lastly the mascot should be in a wheelchair so that the differently abled community can relate to it.

Still need to figure out how to make the mascot relatable to the single welfare mom, maybe have it holding the Colorado Quest card.
 
2013-08-21 11:02:13 AM

Pants full of macaroni!!: ristst: I can remember throwing a hatchet at a small tree repeatedly in a lame attempt to split it down the middle like Fess Parker did in the opening credits. (it never worked)

"WELCOME TO FRONTIER BRIS!"


You needed a bigger hatchet-or smaller tree
 
2013-08-21 11:10:35 AM

SheltemDragon: Guns, Germs, and Steel, is a really good read. I thought maybe I had it on my book shelf. And yes, they were likely held back more by the lack of large domesticated livestock then anything else (although I don't find the hand waving about the buffalo being all that compelling. They are / were capable of being domesticated and could have been bred to be more useful as a draft animal.) However, my argument of abundance as a negative rests on the theory that much of the "Old World" technology was originally driven by the ever pressing need to innovate agricultural techniques to feed larger and larger populations on weary land. Or fight over new land that was slightly less weary. And there is some evidence of this happening in the new world as well. Prior to its collapse some time in the very early 1400s, the Missouri mound building culture had innovated heavily in the agricultural realm and the Illinois Cahokia people, another agrarian people, had begun producing copper tools. (This is even ignoring extensive copper and gold metallurgy in South and Central America ~800 CE). Sadly, both the Cahokia and the Missouri civilizations were likely done in by both land weariness and the sanitation issues of supporting large civilizations, and the technology largely abandoned by their former trading partners. One possible explanation for this is that it simply wasn't necessary. By marrying short term habitation patterns, mixed field agriculture (the three sisters of corn, beans, and squash), and fire based forest / game management, Native American groups were able to produce agricultural outcomes that were more then sufficient for themselves, and in general nutritionally better then the Europeans (as evidenced by the general early observations that Indian groups were taller and more 'robust' then Europeans of the time). Thus, they lacked a heavy impetus to develop advanced metal extraction and working techniques which could be re-purposed to war technologies. I'm not saying tha ...

p>One of the big things about livestock is that a lot of maladies start in them. Rinderpest in cows is measles in people. Flu and swine are infamous partners. Without them Europeans don't build restiances to them and can't spread them to the Indians. Btw syphilis may be the one thing they gave the west.
 
2013-08-21 11:21:10 AM
Could have been worse, could have been this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrapC2a_3Xg
 
2013-08-21 11:22:20 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: One of the big things about livestock is that a lot of maladies start in them. Rinderpest in cows is measles in people. Flu and swine are infamous partners. Without them Europeans don't build restiances to them and can't spread them to the Indians. Btw syphilis may be the one thing they gave the west.


And the movie 2012.  Without the Mayan calendar no 2012 movie.
 
2013-08-21 11:54:08 AM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: JesusJuice: I don't see why some people are so offended by references to US expansion just because of the Indians.  They were technologically and culturally unsophisticated and were naturally displaced by those who were not.  This has happened countless times throughout history, and nobody owes anybody an apology for it.

95% of the native Americans who died never saw a white man, disease spread far faster than settlers.  The first white men found huge empty cities in the Mississippi region.  Even if Europeans had come with the best intentions, most of the natives were doomed.


Now don't go and spoil this thread with some actual facts, liberal farkers would hate that.
 
2013-08-21 12:04:46 PM

orangehat: FloydA: What's amazing to me is that Fox News has so little actual news to worry about that they are reduced to trying to gin up poutrage that some unknown small college changed its mascot 15 years ago.

Nice work, GOP-TV, I'm sure Reagan would be proud.

Read this and tell me that the University of Denver is "small" and "unknown."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Denver



University of Denver: Students 11,476

Selecting just a few schools in western states, for accuracy of comparison:

UCLA: Students 39,945
USC: Students 38,010
Berkeley: Students 35,899
U. Washington: Students 42,907
Washingon State: Students  27,008
U. of Oregon: Students 24,531
U. of New Mexico: Students 35,211
U. of Arizona: Students 39,236
Arizona State University: Students  72,254

These figures say nothing about the quality of education offered by these schools of course, but yes, University of Denver is a very small school.  I did not intend to insult the school; I'm sure it is justly famous throughout the entire South Platte River Valley.
 
2013-08-21 12:06:31 PM

atomicmask: daniel boones major crime is being a successful and famous white man in history. It makes the do nothing feminist/persons of color feel inferior and we cant have that.



Does banjo music actually play whenever you talk, or does it just seem like it should?
 
2013-08-21 12:34:29 PM

FloydA: atomicmask: daniel boones major crime is being a successful and famous white man in history. It makes the do nothing feminist/persons of color feel inferior and we cant have that.


Does banjo music actually play whenever you talk, or does it just seem like it should?


It only plays when someone is foolish enough to nibble at the bait.
 
2013-08-21 01:23:09 PM

evilmousse: i think it's offensive these people can't conceive of a nonwhite person seeing an image of a white person and just seeing a person.


Bingo! +2
 
2013-08-21 01:40:27 PM
As a person who works across the street from Daniel Boone's grave, I am offended by Missourians who claim his burial site.
 
2013-08-21 01:50:17 PM
Maybe they should be the Indians.  You know, more representative of the area and people of color etc............wait, what?
 
2013-08-21 02:22:16 PM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: They're saying 'Boooooone!'


Is this one of them?
s7.postimg.org
/Obscure?
 
2013-08-21 02:45:12 PM

Death Whisper: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: JesusJuice: I don't see why some people are so offended by references to US expansion just because of the Indians.  They were technologically and culturally unsophisticated and were naturally displaced by those who were not.  This has happened countless times throughout history, and nobody owes anybody an apology for it.

95% of the native Americans who died never saw a white man, disease spread far faster than settlers.  The first white men found huge empty cities in the Mississippi region.  Even if Europeans had come with the best intentions, most of the natives were doomed.

Now don't go and spoil this thread with some actual facts, liberal farkers would hate that.


The book 1491 for the win.  Even before any major European  settlements were established disease was wiping out whole populations.  The original Plymouth Rock  pilgrims' settlement was  a village Indians abandoned because of disease.   The North and South American Indians lacked the genetic diversity to develop resistance to the new diseases both human an animal borne.  It is believed the Spanish pigs spread  diseases to new world animals that found their way to the American Indians.
 
2013-08-21 03:01:49 PM

FloydA: orangehat: FloydA: What's amazing to me is that Fox News has so little actual news to worry about that they are reduced to trying to gin up poutrage that some unknown small college changed its mascot 15 years ago.

Nice work, GOP-TV, I'm sure Reagan would be proud.

Read this and tell me that the University of Denver is "small" and "unknown."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Denver


University of Denver: Students 11,476

Selecting just a few schools in western states, for accuracy of comparison:

UCLA: Students 39,945
USC: Students 38,010
Berkeley: Students 35,899
U. Washington: Students 42,907
Washingon State: Students  27,008
U. of Oregon: Students 24,531
U. of New Mexico: Students 35,211
U. of Arizona: Students 39,236
Arizona State University: Students  72,254

These figures say nothing about the quality of education offered by these schools of course, but yes, University of Denver is a very small school.   I did not intend to insult the school; I'm sure it is justly famous throughout the entire South Platte River Valley.


You didn't intend to insult the school and then you smugly insult it...good thing you don't teach English.
 
2013-08-21 04:15:14 PM

orangehat: FloydA: orangehat: FloydA: What's amazing to me is that Fox News has so little actual news to worry about that they are reduced to trying to gin up poutrage that some unknown small college changed its mascot 15 years ago.

Nice work, GOP-TV, I'm sure Reagan would be proud.

Read this and tell me that the University of Denver is "small" and "unknown."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Denver


University of Denver: Students 11,476

Selecting just a few schools in western states, for accuracy of comparison:

UCLA: Students 39,945
USC: Students 38,010
Berkeley: Students 35,899
U. Washington: Students 42,907
Washingon State: Students  27,008
U. of Oregon: Students 24,531
U. of New Mexico: Students 35,211
U. of Arizona: Students 39,236
Arizona State University: Students  72,254

These figures say nothing about the quality of education offered by these schools of course, but yes, University of Denver is a very small school.   I did not intend to insult the school; I'm sure it is justly famous throughout the entire South Platte River Valley.

You didn't intend to insult the school and then you smugly insult it...good thing you don't teach English.



Well obviously I do intend to now.  Only to get you riled up, however.
 
2013-08-21 04:31:00 PM

hasty ambush: It is believed the Spanish pigs spread  diseases to new world


Hello.  My name is Puerco El Cerdo.  You killed my father.  Prepare to die.
 
2013-08-21 05:16:16 PM

dittybopper: hasty ambush: It is believed the Spanish pigs spread  diseases to new world

Hello.  My name is Puerco El Cerdo.  You killed my father.  Prepare to die.


They certainly didn't help. There are a couple of well documented cases of the Spanish habit of seeding every island they came across with pigs (for later provisions) singlehandedly destroying aboriginal populations without a single shot being fired. Largely via ecological devastation. Even without being a disease vector, swine are basically a terror weapon if you've never seen them before.
 
2013-08-21 10:13:08 PM

SheltemDragon: swine are basically a terror weapon if you've never seen them before.


Even if you *HAVE*, they are a terror weapon.
 
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