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(Think Progress)   Oklahoma oil billionaire hates wind turbines because they make the landscape look weird, as compared to those sexy oil derricks   (thinkprogress.org ) divider line
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2013-08-21 03:13:29 PM  

Rambino: brimed03: Wow. Just... wow!

'WE should do something to stop THEM from overpopulating the MidEast and Africa.'

How 'bout WE start by neutering YOU and YOUR KIDS. Trust me, it'll do way more to save the planet.

Too late.  Hamm has five kids with two wimmin.


B-b-but family values!  Sanctity of marriage!  He's been divorced???

Are there no heroes left?  Or should I say no heroes on the right?
 
2013-08-21 04:34:26 PM  

dabbletech: Just for clarification,

This is a pumping unit, or pump jack.  It is permanent, but reasonably small: [image.made-in-china.com image 390x293]

This is a derrick.  It is much larger, but is part of the drilling rig, so it is temporary:
[www.worldoils.com image 336x448]

This is one of the wind farms that supplies Google.  It is permanent:
[econewsnetwork.org image 400x300]

So far as making the landscape look weird is concerned, draw your on conclusion.


While the visual effect on the landscape of one is less than the other, which one has the greatest global impact on the environment ?
 
2013-08-21 04:48:14 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: PunGent: Not_Todd: Wasn't it Ted Kennedy who led the lawsuit to prevent wind turbines within sight of his estate?

Without tax breaks and subsidies, very few of these things can even break even.

You're talking about the oil and coal industries, right?  :)

Turbines can't make plastic. How the fark am I going to get my latest geewizbang electronic gadget, that I must have? So now our children have to be deprived after you got yours. fark you. Why do you hate the children?


On the off chance you're serious, no, I don't hate kids.  I just don't buy the "subsidies good for oil, bad for solar" BS...subsidize both or neither, I'm fine either way...just don't call subsidies the "free market" when they've been around so long they've faded into the background for everyone.

/rant over
 
2013-08-21 04:51:30 PM  

capt.hollister: dabbletech: Just for clarification,

This is a pumping unit, or pump jack.  It is permanent, but reasonably small: [image.made-in-china.com image 390x293]

This is a derrick.  It is much larger, but is part of the drilling rig, so it is temporary:
[www.worldoils.com image 336x448]

This is one of the wind farms that supplies Google.  It is permanent:
[econewsnetwork.org image 400x300]

So far as making the landscape look weird is concerned, draw your on conclusion.

While the visual effect on the landscape of one is less than the other, which one has the greatest global impact on the environment ?


Both require an initial investment of raw materials (including metals, which must be mined, plus additional energy and waste from construction and installation). Subsequent maintenance also has its costs in materials and energy.

One contributes to the extraction of millions of years worth of sequestered carbon. Much of that carbon is then pumped back into the active environment in the space of decades and centuries. A blink of an eye in geological terms.

The other harvests kinetic energy powered by the sun. The wind is blowing anyway. Gas doesn't seep fast enough on its own to be economically viable. So...
 
2013-08-21 05:58:53 PM  

HawgWild: Oh yeah, baby, take it!

[www.gifmania.co.uk image 130x100]

Oh, gonna blow!

[www.gifmania.co.uk image 120x120]

Mmmm ... that's good lovin', baby.


How crude.
 
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