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(KTVB Boise)   2 wolves killed 176 sheep in one night   (ktvb.com) divider line 337
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2013-08-20 07:06:47 PM

r1niceboy: meat0918: Wolves killed 11, the rest died from asphyxiation.

They all died piled up on top of each other. I'm not buying a word of this story apart from some wolves had an all you can eat buffet.


It's nothing against the wolves, but wolf killed livestock give you better government compensation than flukes of nature.

/The wolves have invented garroting
//NSA doesn't want you to know
 
2013-08-20 07:08:06 PM

highendmighty: BenJammin: It must have been werewolves.

Werewolves?


There wolves.

images.nationalgeographic.com

There Castle

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2013-08-20 07:08:26 PM
www.movie-locations.com
 
2013-08-20 07:08:35 PM

HeadLever: Yep, wolves will joykill from time to time.  Happened near Dillion Montana a few years ago.  Just a fact when you live near wolves.

Overall, livestock depredations are down since our wolf hunting season started.


Funny how that works.
 
2013-08-20 07:08:35 PM
www.hipsterwave.com
Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All.
 
2013-08-20 07:08:39 PM

LockeOak: Sounds like the rancher needs a better fence, or insurance, or sheep dogs, or rams.


Sheep dogs or rams doesn't work very well against a pack of wolves.  Also, he may have insurance and these were likely out on open range.
 
2013-08-20 07:08:44 PM
Wake up sheeple!
 
2013-08-20 07:09:08 PM
I know in Italy they have a fun specifically for ranchers who experience this type of loss.

But yeah, maybe it's time to remember what shepherds did back when wolves were common. Sheepdogs, rams, probably those funny canes too?

In any case, this is also out of 2400 sheep... I am fairly certain there aren't even 2400 wolves in Idaho. The ranchers can deal with it.
 
2013-08-20 07:10:20 PM

69gnarkill69: This guy's herd is attacked by wolves and he's the asshole.


The guy's heard wasn't "attacked" by wolves. It was harried slightly.

The sheep killed themselves. The fact they were ABLE to bunch up tight enough to kill each other raises SERIOUS questions about herd density and geography. The fact the wolves weren't run off by shepherds or rams is the other ball dropping.

This guy isn't a rancher, he's a warehouse owner who thought sheep are just living shipping containers. fark him.
 
2013-08-20 07:10:41 PM

HeadLever: LockeOak: Sounds like the rancher needs a better fence, or insurance, or sheep dogs, or rams.

Sheep dogs or rams doesn't work very well against a pack of wolves.


But how about against just 2 wolves?
 
2013-08-20 07:11:28 PM

69gnarkill69: doglover: Explodo: And people wonder why ranchers attempted to prevent the wolves from being reintroduced.  That's a significant financial hit.

Good. Hopefully the asshole who owned them goes out of business and has to take up another occupation where they're not responsible for others' lives.

This guy's herd is attacked by wolves and he's the asshole.  City folk are so funny.


You plop your ranch in the middle of a predator's habitat, raise animals that have been bred over centuries to be dumb as fark, place them in convenient pens that the aforementioned predator can trap the dumbass animals inside...and you get pissed at wolves for doing what comes naturally?
 
2013-08-20 07:11:46 PM

Darkrover2: Wolf: Doing what it's supposed to do, and surprised by rancher butthurt wrongly applied to them.


wolves are known to joykill and that is why ranchers don't really like them.  Thier dislike is not 'wrongly applied' in the slightest if thier goal is to keep thier livestock alive.
 
2013-08-20 07:11:56 PM
They obviously need a better seer.

/doubt even one person will know wtf I'm talking about
 
2013-08-20 07:12:32 PM

AteMyBrain: Asphyxiation? Did the wolves strangle them?

Whatever...now the ranchers have a convenient excuse to go on a wolf-killing spree.

That's the idea, right?


When I was little (like, Kindergarten little) my family lived on a cattle ranch.  One night a mountain lion got into the maternity pens and killed 2 of the week-olds before dad could get out there.  The lion ran off without his dinner, so it went to another ranch and took one of those calves.

The next day was an exciting one for mini-me as I got to ride along while all the ranchers and farmers in the area got their guns and Jeeps and were heading out to kill that mountain lion.  Even the local Sheriff got into the action. (most likely just trying to direct traffic and keep everyone out of their own fields of fire.)

Mountain lion must have wanted nothing to do with a bunch of armed ranchers, because I don't think anyone ever did see it.
 
2013-08-20 07:12:42 PM

Mike Chewbacca: But how about against just 2 wolves?


We should ask him.  He usually makes an appearance during these threads.
 
2013-08-20 07:13:19 PM
Sheep. Probably the dumbest creatures that we eat that don't have wings or fins, and even then I'm not too sure.
 
2013-08-20 07:13:27 PM
Were they Big Bad Wolves?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGRQGm4-A4k

NSFW, sanity
 
2013-08-20 07:13:41 PM

LordJiro: You plop your ranch in the middle of a predator's habitat


Acutally, the wolves were reintroduced back in 1995.  It is likely that the rancher was there first.
 
2013-08-20 07:13:45 PM

netizencain: [www.weirdspace.dk image 190x362]
I'm on it


If you were on it, the 176 sheep would have lived.
 
2013-08-20 07:14:16 PM
And yet, breeders spend fortunes and years to breed out wolf intelligence and power, and to get us this:

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2013-08-20 07:14:37 PM
You still wake up sometimes, don't you? You wake up in the dark and hear the screaming of the sheep.
kellimarshall.net
Well, Clarice. Have the sheep stopped screaming?
 
2013-08-20 07:15:24 PM

LordJiro: place them in convenient pens that the aforementioned predator can trap the dumbass animals inside...


Where does it say they were in pens?  It appears that you are making this an assumption.

Look at the picture again. I don't see any fences.  It is more likely that they were out on open range.
 
2013-08-20 07:15:36 PM

Drubell: They obviously need a better seer.

/doubt even one person will know wtf I'm talking about


If no one does, wouldn'tm Adder.
 
2013-08-20 07:15:42 PM

HeadLever: LordJiro: You plop your ranch in the middle of a predator's habitat

Acutally, the wolves were reintroduced back in 1995.  It is likely that the rancher was there first.


RE-introduced.
 
2013-08-20 07:16:07 PM
Ran out of mint jelly after the seventh one.
 
2013-08-20 07:16:31 PM

doglover: The guy's heard wasn't "attacked" by wolves. It was harried slightly.


Right,  Because you were there and know exactly what happened.
 
2013-08-20 07:16:37 PM

BenJammin: It must have been werewolves.


Where wolves? THERE WOLVES!
 
2013-08-20 07:16:55 PM
Two massive headline failures.
The sheep killed themselves, the wolves killed 11.

There's no reason for wolves to mass murder like humans would, given the chance.
 
2013-08-20 07:17:30 PM

doglover: HeadLever: LordJiro: You plop your ranch in the middle of a predator's habitat

Acutally, the wolves were reintroduced back in 1995.  It is likely that the rancher was there first.

RE-introduced.


Do you  have trouble with reading?  Isn't that what I said?
 
2013-08-20 07:18:39 PM

2wolves: Ran out of mint jelly after the seventh one.


You would need a truckload of it for this feast.
 
2013-08-20 07:18:47 PM

meat0918: Werewolves?

There wolves.


Didn't read quite far enough. Thought to myself, "Nobody else is goofy enough to write this!"

/golf howl
 
2013-08-20 07:19:26 PM

Infernalist: So...lemme see if I understand this correctly...

Two wolves find a sheep herd of over two thousand sheep, and because they're in a pen, the wolves can get in, but the sheep can't get out and the two wolves have a grand night of chasing sheep.

So much so that the stupid things piled up on top of each other in a panic to get away and killed themselves in their stupidity, while the wolves kill about ten of them in their chasing.

Then cap the night off by eating a sheep and then disappearing into the night.

And through it all, the vigilant shepherds didn't take notice until about 1am and didn't get out there in time to stop the wolves' games and late night dinner.

And of course, it's not the shepherds' faults for being stupid and not watching over their sheep close enough when they're trapped in a pen that they can't escape...

It's the wolves' fault for being wolves and liking the taste of sheep and like chasing sheep.

In the wild, these two wolves would have undoubtedly found a herd of deer and probably managed to chase down the slowest of them and had a nice dinner.  Nature at work.  But, in this case, they found a bunch of trapped sheep and some stupid shepherds who are bad at their job.

Title should be "2 wolves killed 10 sheep; stupid shepherds kill 166 sheep"


You my friend are ignorant. In the summer you free range sheep in the mountains like cattle over thousands of acres with perhaps two or four guys working during the day to keep them together and tend them. Pretty hard to keep up with running critters in the dark.
 
2013-08-20 07:19:28 PM
Sheep farmer Barney says: "Damn that Obama and his saving the galdern wolves!!!. Ima gonna go and kill me some sheep with the tail pipe of me truck and pile em up and say it was dem dern wolves. Then we gets ta kill as many as we want!!"


/OK, it was me. I snorted all their air out of their lungs and they died. Sorry about that.
//Usually I just snort their woolly bodies and get me high from all that marijuana they keep wandering through out there is the big open areas.
 
2013-08-20 07:19:43 PM

HeadLever: LordJiro: You plop your ranch in the middle of a predator's habitat

Acutally, the wolves were reintroduced back in 1995.  It is likely that the rancher was there first.


So by that logic, what if those specific sheep are less than 18 years old?
 
2013-08-20 07:19:50 PM

doglover: 69gnarkill69: This guy's herd is attacked by wolves and he's the asshole.

The guy's heard wasn't "attacked" by wolves. It was harried slightly.

The sheep killed themselves. The fact they were ABLE to bunch up tight enough to kill each other raises SERIOUS questions about herd density and geography. The fact the wolves weren't run off by shepherds or rams is the other ball dropping.

This guy isn't a rancher, he's a warehouse owner who thought sheep are just living shipping containers. fark him.


You haven't the slightest clue to what it means to be a rancher.  Your ignorance is astounding.
 
2013-08-20 07:20:16 PM

HeadLever: doglover: HeadLever: LordJiro: You plop your ranch in the middle of a predator's habitat

Acutally, the wolves were reintroduced back in 1995.  It is likely that the rancher was there first.

RE-introduced.

Do you  have trouble with reading?  Isn't that what I said?


Do you have trouble with English? Do you not see the obvious problem with your statement?
 
2013-08-20 07:21:26 PM

RubberBabyBuggyBumpers: meat0918: Werewolves?

There wolves.

Didn't read quite far enough. Thought to myself, "Nobody else is goofy enough to write this!"

/golf howl


Oh, there be plenty of goof around these parts, and a few parcels of silly.
 
2013-08-20 07:22:07 PM

doglover: The fact the wolves weren't run off by shepherds or rams is the other ball dropping.


Do you actually think that the rams would try to run off the wolves? Really?   You apparently know less about this topic than I first gave you credit for.
 
2013-08-20 07:22:37 PM
www.avoidinglife.com

Could be mistaken identity
 
2013-08-20 07:22:45 PM

HeadLever: LockeOak: Sounds like the rancher needs a better fence, or insurance, or sheep dogs, or rams.

Sheep dogs or rams doesn't work very well against a pack of wolves.  Also, he may have insurance and these were likely out on open range.


IIRC Turkish kangals, Great Pyrenees, and Caucasian overtchkas (spelling wrong) have been bred for centuries to work in teams to prevent wolf predation....they are very large (100-180lbs)and very serious about their jobs. The Caucasian will actively try to kill wolves near its flock.
Ranchers in the telluride area have been using kangals for awhile now and here predation has dropped significantly.
 
2013-08-20 07:22:53 PM

doyner: HeadLever: LordJiro: You plop your ranch in the middle of a predator's habitat

Acutally, the wolves were reintroduced back in 1995.  It is likely that the rancher was there first.

So by that logic, what if those specific sheep are less than 18 years old?


We were talking about the rancher, remember?  Not his sheep.  Try again.
 
2013-08-20 07:22:58 PM

HeadLever: LockeOak: Sounds like the rancher needs a better fence, or insurance, or sheep dogs, or rams.

Sheep dogs or rams doesn't work very well against a pack of wolves.  Also, he may have insurance and these were likely out on open range.


If he was on federal/public land, then look at all the farks I give:

None. None farks.

/feel kinda bad for the sheep
 
2013-08-20 07:23:18 PM

2wolves: Ran out of mint jelly after the seventh one.


And YOU get the funny button for a perfectly-timed chiming in.
 
2013-08-20 07:24:04 PM

HeadLever: doyner: HeadLever: LordJiro: You plop your ranch in the middle of a predator's habitat

Acutally, the wolves were reintroduced back in 1995.  It is likely that the rancher was there first.

So by that logic, what if those specific sheep are less than 18 years old?

We were talking about the rancher, remember?  Not his sheep.  Try again.


Yes, but he introduced those sheep.  That's the point.
 
2013-08-20 07:24:29 PM

HeadLever: doglover: HeadLever: LordJiro: You plop your ranch in the middle of a predator's habitat

Acutally, the wolves were reintroduced back in 1995.  It is likely that the rancher was there first.

RE-introduced.

Do you  have trouble with reading?  Isn't that what I said?


Who was there first is a really shiatty argument, but is pretty solid in legal terms if I understand it correctly.

I run into it all the time sadly.

The factory was here first!  Actually, homesteaders were, they were forced to sell their land in the 40's

The railroad was here first!  Actually, a school was there, one of the first in the area.  They knocked it down in the late 1800s and cut a growing community in half because, money "progress"

If we really want to argue who was here first, one can almost always say "The Native Americans".  That shuts that talk down right quick.
 
2013-08-20 07:24:51 PM

doyner: HeadLever: doyner: HeadLever: LordJiro: You plop your ranch in the middle of a predator's habitat

Acutally, the wolves were reintroduced back in 1995.  It is likely that the rancher was there first.

So by that logic, what if those specific sheep are less than 18 years old?

We were talking about the rancher, remember?  Not his sheep.  Try again.

Yes, but he introduced those sheep.  That's the point.


NEWSFLASH!

Animals get eaten by other animals out in the wild. Story at 11.
 
2013-08-20 07:24:52 PM
FTFA: "almost all of the sheep died from asphyxiation. About 10 died of bite wounds and one was partially consumed"

So 165 died from panic, and the rest were killed by wolves.

I guess shepherds don't math or reason too well.
 
2013-08-20 07:25:56 PM

Smelly Pirate Hooker: FTFA: "almost all of the sheep died from asphyxiation. About 10 died of bite wounds and one was partially consumed"

So 165 died from panic, and the rest were killed by wolves.

I guess shepherds don't math or reason too well.


Shepherds don't shepherd too well either, apparently.
 
2013-08-20 07:25:57 PM

LordJiro: 69gnarkill69: doglover: Explodo: And people wonder why ranchers attempted to prevent the wolves from being reintroduced.  That's a significant financial hit.

Good. Hopefully the asshole who owned them goes out of business and has to take up another occupation where they're not responsible for others' lives.

This guy's herd is attacked by wolves and he's the asshole.  City folk are so funny.

You plop your ranch in the middle of a predator's habitat, raise animals that have been bred over centuries to be dumb as fark, place them in convenient pens that the aforementioned predator can trap the dumbass animals inside...and you get pissed at wolves for doing what comes naturally?


I'm not pissed at the wolves, they are predators and they are good at it.  Where in my post do you get the idea that I'm pissed at wolves?  Project much?
 
2013-08-20 07:26:00 PM
The wolves just did what wolves do.   yes they killed 10 sheep and panicked the other to the point they killed themselves by packing into too tightly together.

The owner of the herd/flock and his employees are just as much to blame if not more as they failed to adequately protect their livestock.
 
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