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(SeattlePI)   The coroner has completed the investigation into journalist's Michael Hasting's death and it turns out there is nothing to see here. And also he's a druggie. And also the FBI wasn't investigating him in the first place   (seattlepi.com) divider line 65
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2013-08-20 06:23:11 PM
Investigators said Hastings had arrived with family from New York the day before the crash, and a brother was due to arrive in town that same morning to try to persuade him to go to detox. Investigators were told by family that after 14 years of being "sober," Hastings had started to use drugs again since his recent move from New York to California.

They couldn't have released this information sooner?  This is how conspiracy theories get a foothold.
 
2013-08-20 06:28:27 PM

Lsherm: They couldn't have released this information sooner? This is how conspiracy theories get a foothold.


Right, because as subby demonstrates, nothing squashes conspiracy theories faster than the spread of information about the deceased's drug use.
 
2013-08-20 06:28:42 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-20 06:29:36 PM
Sure... that's what they WANT you to believe

/Move along, citizen... move along
 
2013-08-20 06:36:20 PM
What's the conspiracy with this guy about again... He released JFK's sex tapes with Princess Di to the Wikileaks dude after tapping the head of the CIA's phone while setting fire to the Branch Davidian compound?
 
2013-08-20 06:37:12 PM

Peter von Nostrand: What's the conspiracy with this guy about again... He released JFK's sex tapes with Princess Di to the Wikileaks dude after tapping the head of the CIA's phone while setting fire to the Branch Davidian compound?


In Benghazi
 
2013-08-20 07:14:05 PM

tallguywithglasseson: Lsherm: They couldn't have released this information sooner? This is how conspiracy theories get a foothold.

Right, because as subby demonstrates, nothing squashes conspiracy theories faster than the spread of information about the deceased's drug use.


Not that - but that the family was concerned enough about it to try and get him to get help.  If your family is that worried about your drug use, then it points to an existing problem.
 
2013-08-20 07:28:09 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Peter von Nostrand: What's the conspiracy with this guy about again... He released JFK's sex tapes with Princess Di to the Wikileaks dude after tapping the head of the CIA's phone while setting fire to the Branch Davidian compound?

In Benghazi


Benghazi, of course. He draws a lot of water in Malibu as well
 
2013-08-20 07:39:56 PM
prompted the FBI to release an unusual statement that it had not been investigation him.

But did they accidentally investigation the whole thing?
 
2013-08-20 07:40:32 PM

Lsherm: Investigators said Hastings had arrived with family from New York the day before the crash, and a brother was due to arrive in town that same morning to try to persuade him to go to detox. Investigators were told by family that after 14 years of being "sober," Hastings had started to use drugs again since his recent move from New York to California.

They couldn't have released this information sooner?  This is how conspiracy theories get a foothold.


No, conspiracy theories "get a foothold" because idiots say "Aha! He couldn't POSSIBLY have died in a fiery car crash all by himself! THEY must have killed him (in this spectacularly obvious and blatant way) to keep him quiet because!!! Let's not wait for any proof, let's run with it!"
 
2013-08-20 07:41:04 PM
The crash occurred at about 4:20 a.m

Dude...
 
2013-08-20 07:42:53 PM
Goddamn it.

I hate when they do this shiat.  They might as well come out and say, "See?  He used drugs and that means he's a scumbag so don't worry yourselves anymore about him.  I mean he tested positive for AMPHETAMINES which means he was a deranged meth head out to kill your family for more drugs!
 
2013-08-20 07:43:50 PM
Smoked weed and crashed at 4:20? Very interesting...
 
2013-08-20 07:44:47 PM

fusillade762: prompted the FBI to release an unusual statement that it had not been investigation him.

But did they accidentally investigation the whole thing?


The question must be axed: how is baby formed?
 
2013-08-20 07:45:28 PM
How many times have I said that . . .
 
2013-08-20 07:48:05 PM

Lsherm: Investigators said Hastings had arrived with family from New York the day before the crash, and a brother was due to arrive in town that same morning to try to persuade him to go to detox. Investigators were told by family that after 14 years of being "sober," Hastings had started to use drugs again since his recent move from New York to California.

They couldn't have released this information sooner?  This is how conspiracy theories get a foothold.


That had more to do with the fact that high government officials pretty regularly cussed him out for having the unmitigated gall to be an adversarial reporter instead of just sucking up to whoever happens to be in power.

Here's a sample.

"If you go to the village of Al-Majalah in Yemen, where I was, and you see the unexploded clusterbombs and you have the list and photographic evidence, as I do--the women and children that represented the vast majority of the deaths in this first strike that Obama authorized on Yemen--those people were murdered by President Obama, on his orders, because there was believed to be someone from Al Qaeda in that area. There's only one person that's been identified that had any connection to Al Qaeda there. And 21 women and 14 children were killed in that strike and the U.S. tried to cover it up, and say it was a Yemeni strike, and we know from the Wikileaks cables that David Petraeus conspired with the president of Yemen to lie to the world about who did that bombing. It's murder--it's mass murder--when you say, 'We are going to bomb this area' because we believe a terrorist is there, and you know that women and children are in the area. The United States has an obligation to not bomb that area if they believe that women and children are there. I'm sorry, that's murder."
 
2013-08-20 07:49:54 PM

Gyrfalcon: Lsherm: Investigators said Hastings had arrived with family from New York the day before the crash, and a brother was due to arrive in town that same morning to try to persuade him to go to detox. Investigators were told by family that after 14 years of being "sober," Hastings had started to use drugs again since his recent move from New York to California.

They couldn't have released this information sooner?  This is how conspiracy theories get a foothold.

No, conspiracy theories "get a foothold" because idiots say "Aha! He couldn't POSSIBLY have died in a fiery car crash all by himself! THEY must have killed him (in this spectacularly obvious and blatant way) to keep him quiet because!!! Let's not wait for any proof, let's run with it!"




Nah it's when someone takes Sudafed and the claim is that there are trace ammounts of amphetamines in their system.
 
2013-08-20 07:57:00 PM
Sure he was.  The smear job is almost complete.
 
2013-08-20 07:58:43 PM
Mess with the bull...

I for one welcome our Global Corporate Socialist leaders.
 
2013-08-20 08:00:34 PM
Don't mess with the CIA, peasants!!!!!

http://www.sandiego6.com/story/cia-director-brennan-confirmed-as-rep or ter-michael-hastings-next-target-20130812

The release of a new surveillance video from a nearby Italian restaurant by Michael Krikorian, an author, freelance blogger who also writes for LA Weekly, reveals a lot of information about Hastings' final seconds.
A University professor told San Diego 6 News that calculating the speed of Hastings car follows a simple mathematic equation. By using the video and the distance traveled (195 feet) as well as the seconds that lapsed prior to the explosion - the car was traveling roughly 35 mph.
That revelation is important because Jose, an employee of ALSCO a nearby business, and a witness to the accident told KTLA/Loud Labs (Scott Lane) the car was traveling at a high rate of speed and he saw sparks coming from the car and saw it explode BEFORE hitting the tree.
The pre-explosion could possibly explain the flash of light on the video that preceded the appearance of the car in the video. The pre-explosion and slower speed could also explain the minimal damage to the palm tree and the facts the rear tires rested against the curb. It also provides an explanation for the location of the engine and drive train at more than 100 feet from the tree impact area.
This new information prompted another round of FOIA/CPRAs and only adds to the questions that remain unanswered. One of those questions is where was Mr. Hastings going at 4:30 in the morning? Based on the accident location, Hastings was only 1.5 miles from his home and was headed away from his address.
 
2013-08-20 08:04:19 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Peter von Nostrand: What's the conspiracy with this guy about again... He released JFK's sex tapes with Princess Di to the Wikileaks dude after tapping the head of the CIA's phone while setting fire to the Branch Davidian compound?

In Benghazi


Is that all?

/not news...
 
2013-08-20 08:09:38 PM
What will Greenwald's death story be?
 
2013-08-20 08:12:37 PM
Traces of marijuana were also present, indicating he'd taken it hours earlier.

Bullshiat! Marijuana can stay in your system for several weeks or longer.
 
2013-08-20 08:18:52 PM

sheep snorter: Don't mess with the CIA, peasants!!!!!

http://www.sandiego6.com/story/cia-director-brennan-confirmed-as-rep or ter-michael-hastings-next-target-20130812

The release of a new surveillance video from a nearby Italian restaurant ....blah blah blah


You know that accident investigations rely on things like length of the skids on the pavement as well as calculations for how much force it takes to bend the car frame up and not video to calculate these things, right? ...or is this a covert CIA tree that suddenly accelerated towards his car?
 
2013-08-20 08:22:48 PM

Gilligann: Traces of marijuana were also present, indicating he'd taken it hours earlier.

Bullshiat! Marijuana can stay in your system for several weeks or longer.


His own family was trying to get him into detox. It isn't like he took one bong hit weeks before the wreck.
 
2013-08-20 08:23:40 PM

Nick Nostril: fusillade762: prompted the FBI to release an unusual statement that it had not been investigation him.

But did they accidentally investigation the whole thing?

The question must be axed: how is  baby  babby formed?


FTFY
 
2013-08-20 08:31:42 PM

Surool: sheep snorter: Don't mess with the CIA, peasants!!!!!

http://www.sandiego6.com/story/cia-director-brennan-confirmed-as-rep or ter-michael-hastings-next-target-20130812

The release of a new surveillance video from a nearby Italian restaurant ....blah blah blah

You know that accident investigations rely on things like length of the skids on the pavement as well as calculations for how much force it takes to bend the car frame up and not video to calculate these things, right? ...or is this a covert CIA tree that suddenly accelerated towards his car?




Then please explain how cops are able to ticket you for speeding, without using radar or any instruments, other than themselves?
 
2013-08-20 08:38:33 PM
His own family doesn't think anything shady happened, they had flown in from NY and made an intervention the day before to try to get him to go to rehab, and there's security footage that shows him driving alone down the street and crashing. Do the conspiracy theorists have any hard evidence to support an alternate theory?
 
2013-08-20 08:41:41 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Surool: sheep snorter: Don't mess with the CIA, peasants!!!!!

http://www.sandiego6.com/story/cia-director-brennan-confirmed-as-rep or ter-michael-hastings-next-target-20130812

The release of a new surveillance video from a nearby Italian restaurant ....blah blah blah

You know that accident investigations rely on things like length of the skids on the pavement as well as calculations for how much force it takes to bend the car frame up and not video to calculate these things, right? ...or is this a covert CIA tree that suddenly accelerated towards his car?



Then please explain how cops are able to ticket you for speeding, without using radar or any instruments, other than themselves?


They pace you. If they have to go 65 to keep up with you and the speed limit is 45, then you exceed the limit by at least 20. So you're saying a cop should have been following him into the tree to check his speed? Maybe it was a pace tree that followed him too close.
 
2013-08-20 08:44:30 PM
Well, duh, I believe everything the media says and if you don't you're not the conformist that you need to be.

Obama 2016, 2020 and beyond!
 
2013-08-20 08:46:23 PM

fusillade762: The crash occurred at about 4:20 a.m

Dude...


Scholar4life: Smoked weed and crashed at 4:20? Very interesting...


Let's go back to the night of the crash and see what's at 4:20 in that oh-so-convenient video. Nope, no weed.

img.fark.net
 
2013-08-20 08:53:58 PM

enik: Well, duh, I believe everything the media says and if you don't you're not the conformist that you need to be.

Obama 2016, 2020 and beyond!


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. There's no evidence of anyone other than Hastings doing anything wrong.
 
2013-08-20 08:54:54 PM

Bareefer Obonghit: StoPPeRmobile: Surool: sheep snorter: Don't mess with the CIA, peasants!!!!!

http://www.sandiego6.com/story/cia-director-brennan-confirmed-as-rep or ter-michael-hastings-next-target-20130812

The release of a new surveillance video from a nearby Italian restaurant ....blah blah blah

You know that accident investigations rely on things like length of the skids on the pavement as well as calculations for how much force it takes to bend the car frame up and not video to calculate these things, right? ...or is this a covert CIA tree that suddenly accelerated towards his car?

Then please explain how cops are able to ticket you for speeding, without using radar or any instruments, other than themselves?

They pace you. If they have to go 65 to keep up with you and the speed limit is 45, then you exceed the limit by at least 20. So you're saying a cop should have been following him into the tree to check his speed? Maybe it was a pace tree that followed him too close.


Aliens might be involved...
 
2013-08-20 08:58:45 PM
I admit I heard the conspiracy theories (and lots of them) long before I heard anything about drug abuse/addiction.

But who is to say the gubmint didn't make him inject/inhale/ingest those drugs then drive....huh, huh?

/the cremation thing bothered me, then I looked it up and saw it was on infowars and decided right then and there it was fake
 
2013-08-20 09:02:41 PM
I'm curious about the statement claiming that he was "passed out". The tox report found NOTHING in his system that could account for him being "passed out". Trace amounts of meth and/or THC certainly can't be the reason. There aren't any common substances that could cause someone to pass out that wouldn't be OBVIOUS in a standard autopsy toxicology report. This is my line of work. Just sayin'.
 
2013-08-20 09:20:48 PM
IT'S A KASPERSKY!
 
2013-08-20 09:30:53 PM

lycanth: I'm curious about the statement claiming that he was "passed out". The tox report found NOTHING in his system that could account for him being "passed out". Trace amounts of meth and/or THC certainly can't be the reason. There aren't any common substances that could cause someone to pass out that wouldn't be OBVIOUS in a standard autopsy toxicology report. This is my line of work. Just sayin'.


Howabout sleep?
 
2013-08-20 09:31:57 PM

lycanth: I'm curious about the statement claiming that he was "passed out". The tox report found NOTHING in his system that could account for him being "passed out". Trace amounts of meth and/or THC certainly can't be the reason. There aren't any common substances that could cause someone to pass out that wouldn't be OBVIOUS in a standard autopsy toxicology report. This is my line of work. Just sayin'.


Being in the middle of the night  can account for him being passed out. Not my line of work. Just sayin'.
 
2013-08-20 09:32:37 PM

Gyrfalcon: lycanth: I'm curious about the statement claiming that he was "passed out". The tox report found NOTHING in his system that could account for him being "passed out". Trace amounts of meth and/or THC certainly can't be the reason. There aren't any common substances that could cause someone to pass out that wouldn't be OBVIOUS in a standard autopsy toxicology report. This is my line of work. Just sayin'.

Howabout sleep?


Internet high five
 
2013-08-20 09:42:28 PM

BolshyGreatYarblocks: What will Greenwald's death story be?


I'm going to put my bet on a mugging gone bad.

Gyrfalcon: No, conspiracy theories "get a foothold" because idiots say "Aha! He couldn't POSSIBLY have died in a fiery car crash all by himself! THEY must have killed him (in this spectacularly obvious and blatant way) to keep him quiet because!!! Let's not wait for any proof, let's run with it!"


Decades later often the instinct that the official story is bullshiat is often shown to be correct. Of course by then nobody is paying attention any more. People who were involved tell their stories before they die but nobody listens besides the same kooks who didn't believe the official story in the first place.

Besides that, coincidence theory gets spread a little thin after awhile. Just too much just seems to happen to benefit politically powerful people. Then add the produced nature of the mainstream news and the secretive/cya nature of government to that and that really gives life to things.
 
2013-08-20 09:50:40 PM
Was this the Breitbart coroner?
 
2013-08-20 10:17:15 PM

Gilligann: Traces of marijuana were also present, indicating he'd taken it hours earlier.

Bullshiat! Marijuana can stay in your system for several weeks or longer.


Wrong.  Metabolites of THC can remain in your system for weeks and be detectable in urine.  These days they can actually test for levels of THC in your blood and it does not remain there for weeks.  Of course, that alone does not explain why he slammed into a tree with such force that it killed him.
 

Surool: sheep snorter: Don't mess with the CIA, peasants!!!!!


http://www.sandiego6.com/story/cia-director-brennan-confirmed-as-rep or ter-michael-hastings-next-target-20130812

The release of a new surveillance video from a nearby Italian restaurant ....blah blah blah

You know that accident investigations rely on things like length of the skids on the pavement as well as calculations for how much force it takes to bend the car frame up and not video to calculate these things, right? ...or is this a covert CIA tree that suddenly accelerated towards his car?


You can never convince a conspiracy theorist.

Of course, it could really be a conspiracy but sometimes people really do die in car accidents.  The initial conspiracy was that they remotely controlled his car.  Now it's a slow speed crash?  It seems like it would be easier to silence this guy by setting him up with a felony drug arrest and have him killed in prison.
 
2013-08-20 10:18:17 PM

Noam Chimpsky: Was this the Breitbart coroner?


*ohwaityoureseriousletmelaughharder.jpg*

We had the Clinton death list and right on cue we now have an Obama death list

Awesome
 
2013-08-20 10:27:07 PM
So, paranoid drug addict thinking they're out to get him...which they were trying to get him, into detox...dies in a high speed firey wreck.  I'm not surprised, but I'm also not seeing a great potential for conspiracy.
 
2013-08-20 10:31:08 PM

gfid: You can never convince a conspiracy theorist.

Of course, it could really be a conspiracy but sometimes people really do die in car accidents.  The initial conspiracy was that they remotely controlled his car.  Now it's a slow speed crash?  It seems like it would be easier to silence this guy by setting him up with a felony drug arrest and have him killed in prison.


The drug felony alone would have prevented him from working on any big future stories. People who believe this conspiracy sh*t watch too much TV.
 
2013-08-20 11:06:12 PM
Slander the target. That's never been used by law enforcement before.
 
2013-08-20 11:12:39 PM
tallguywithglasseson
Lsherm: They couldn't have released this information sooner? This is how conspiracy theories get a foothold.
Right, because as subby demonstrates, nothing squashes conspiracy theories faster than the spread of information about the deceased's drug use.


No, you have it wrong. He could have been blown up by the military-intelligence complex black bag operation. But he could have been high as a kite on some illegal and immoral substance when he crashed at a very very high speed.

So although there is doubt because he was an enemy of the defense dept and said he was concerned about his life, it might have been drugs.

Heck, I bet we will never know, but now I feel more confused and less angry that my government may be killing people because it possibly could have.

\This is how you placate the American public.
 
2013-08-20 11:58:53 PM

Lsherm: tallguywithglasseson: Lsherm: They couldn't have released this information sooner? This is how conspiracy theories get a foothold.

Right, because as subby demonstrates, nothing squashes conspiracy theories faster than the spread of information about the deceased's drug use.

Not that - but that the family was concerned enough about it to try and get him to get help.  If your family is that worried about your drug use, then it points to an existing problem.


If its true. Remember you are reading an article pre-approved by some CEO. CEO tend to have powerful friends. Scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. The paths one can take on this story are numerous. The media has the mark of the devil, you can't trust them.
 
2013-08-21 12:00:42 AM

Triumph: fusillade762: The crash occurred at about 4:20 a.m

Dude...

Scholar4life: Smoked weed and crashed at 4:20? Very interesting...

Let's go back to the night of the crash and see what's at 4:20 in that oh-so-convenient video. Nope, no weed.


Interesting coincidences.

Don't know of that bottle was his. It's just a staged shot.
 
2013-08-21 12:03:50 AM
The car was hacked.
 
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