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2013-08-20 03:45:08 PM
I've been playing a few different games lately, and it occurs to me that most of what gets advertised isn't for me. I've been loving the multiplayer Payday 2, aside from the funny parts of it, it has good multiplayer action, short missions that allow for bathroom breaks or whatever, and a good sense of teamwork. I've also been playing star-made... building my own carrier, which was a total flop when I got gang-raped by pirates, and now building a gunboat (f you, pirates!). The games that seem to get other people excited are sequels that are not substantially different than their predecessors (Payday 2 is a sequel, but they improved game mechanics, maps, variety of missions, and other key features). Basically... they say CoD, NOW WITH MORE POLYGONS!!! IDGAF about more polygons, give me a better storyline, give me some creativity, make me actually think, not just button mash, and you'll get my money. Give me COD 84, with it's standard set of shoot on through, then a pretty rail mission (maybe they should make it on a train instead of a plane or a boat, so it's an actual rail mission), and you'll get a little scorn, but no money.

Give me another release as bad as SimCity and you'll get a swift kick to the nuts.
 
2013-08-20 03:48:11 PM
It's funny that Microsoft has reversed its position on nearly every "feature" of the XBone when they announced it. It makes you wonder if they have any market research staff at all.
 
2013-08-20 03:51:39 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: It's funny that Microsoft has reversed its position on nearly every "feature" of the XBone when they announced it. It makes you wonder if they have any market research staff at all.


I think it's more of the emperor has no clothes syndrome.  Upper mgmt was convinced that these were features that the users wanted and would accept, and the lower-level drones (market research staff) simply reinforced that outlook.
 
2013-08-20 03:52:33 PM
How many are exclusives?

*clicks link*

That's what, 6 or 7?
 
2013-08-20 03:52:41 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: It's funny that Microsoft has reversed its position on nearly every "feature" of the XBone when they announced it. It makes you wonder if they have any market research staff at all.


Give the people want they want and they'll buy it. Tell the people what they should want and they'll give you the finger and buy from your competitor.
 
2013-08-20 03:54:33 PM
Nefarious:

Are the free games on Xbox live owned outright?

Yes

Do the PS+ ones rotate out?

Believe so

I should download Dead Rising Patient Zero.

people say it's great, but I wouldn't know because I'm so farking sick and tired of zombie-themed video games

/downloaded it anyway 'cause it's free
 
2013-08-20 03:56:02 PM

a flock of birds: My 360 died on me for the second time a few years ago.  I recently got back into gaming and picked up a PS3.  Really glad I did.

There's no way I can go back to Microsoft, and it has very little to do with their sociopathic business practices.  They just don't bring the types of exclusives I like to their systems.  Halo and Gears are good enough for what they are, but I'm tired of just shooting at things.  I've played games for too long; i need something new.   Microsoft has made the COD crowd their target audience.  That's just not me.

Also, only PS4 will have The Last of Us 2, and really, that's all I need to make up my mind.  God, that game...


I just hit 105 (actually 110) survivors in my camp last night, so I'm getting a kick out of some of these replies...
 
2013-08-20 03:59:46 PM

Nefarious: Are the free games on Xbox live owned outright?


Owned and yours. Even when there is a new game offered, as long as you download the game, it is seen as a "purchase" costing $0.00, so if you get another 360 console, you can re-download the game again.
 
2013-08-20 04:00:49 PM

Flappyhead: That's what, 6 or 7?


For release titles, that is as many as the PS3 has in its lifespan.
 
2013-08-20 04:01:51 PM

RoxtarRyan: Owned and yours.


No such thing in the software game, generally.
 
2013-08-20 04:03:52 PM

RexTalionis: RoxtarRyan: Owned and yours.

No such thing in the software game, generally.


Needless to say, of course.
 
2013-08-20 04:04:03 PM
I have always hated Killer Instinct's juggle-mania gameplay, but that looks like the only interesting game here. I thought Titanfall was coming out as a launch title, but either I missed it on the list or I was wrong.
 
2013-08-20 04:06:47 PM

diggumsmax: Funny thing is I see all these people saying how overpriced the One is yet the PS3 was $600 at launch.  They were going to include the Eye in the PS4 and sell it for $500 but after they saw the bad reaction when MS released their price tag they changed it at the last minute.  Yet the PS3 still successful, despite the drawbacks, like the cell processor which was apparently a biatch to code on, terrible SDK's from Sony, Valve saying they would never release a game on the PS3 (or just Gabe, but he's a douche IMO).  So ten years ago, $600 not to much, this year $500 is to expensive but $400 is fine.  When you look at the life of a console, games bought, services, in the end how much is that $100 (or one game and $30) really going to be the deciding factor?  I doubt it as I think both will be near impossible to get around Christmas, could be wrong but just my gut feeling.


People hated the 599 price, and it's still the subject of mocking memes eight years later.  Sony didn't see a major sales boom till it hit 299 or so.  That was the sweets pot that got the casuals to buy in.

As for the xbox launch lineup?  about what I expected.  It's a good lineup historically, with many 'safe' titles in franchises you already know.
 
2013-08-20 04:06:59 PM
Meh, my Amiga 500 still rocks.
 
2013-08-20 04:09:13 PM

RoxtarRyan: Flappyhead: That's what, 6 or 7?

For release titles, that is as many as the PS3 has in its lifespan.


3D Dot Game Heroes
Demon's Souls
Dragon's Crown
God of War III
God of War Ascention
Gran Turismo 5
Heavenly Sword
heavy Rain
Infamous
Infamous 2
Journey
Katamari Forever
LittleBigPlanet
LittleBigPlanet 2
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of Patriots
ModNation Racers
MotorStorm
Ni no Kuni
PixelJunk Racers
5 Ratchet and Clank games.
3 Resistence games.
Socom 4: US Navy Seals
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
Tales of Xilia
The Last of Us
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Uncharted 2: Among thieves
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
Valkyria Chronicles
Warhawk
White Knight Chronicals
4 Yakuza games.

And that's just the really well-known ones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_exclusives_%28sevent h_ generation%29
 
2013-08-20 04:11:24 PM

RoxtarRyan: For release titles, that is as many as the PS3 has in its lifespan.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_exclusives_(seventh_ ge neration)

Under their criteria, 139 for PS3, 153 for X360 could only be played on those systems.
 
2013-08-20 04:11:46 PM

Carth: Anyone here have a Vita? I never was interested in one before but I like the idea of boarderlands 2 on it and the game with the upside head looked interesting.


The vita is...interesting.  Hardware wise, it's very, very solid.  Publishers in the west don't seem to like it though, outside Ubisoft and a few others.  Indies absolutely adore it, as do many Japanese devs from the smaller companies, like Arksys or atlas.

If you have psplus, it's a pretty good buy, save for the memory cards.  Games seem to drop in price pretty quick, and there is always a few free plus games you can play on it.

It's just...damn those cards.  If not for that it could have been a solid hit.  If you buy it as a ps4 companion that plays tons of games from smaller publishers, it's fantastic.  Else, just go get a iphone or 3ds.
 
2013-08-20 04:12:09 PM
Damnit, 2 minutes while I counted.
 
2013-08-20 04:12:15 PM

Smelly McUgly: I have always hated Killer Instinct's juggle-mania gameplay, but that looks like the only interesting game here. I thought Titanfall was coming out as a launch title, but either I missed it on the list or I was wrong.


I really hate how they are releasing KI. $5 per character or you can buy "bundles" of them.
 
2013-08-20 04:12:36 PM
I have a 360 but not a PS3, though lately I've been thinking about picking up the latter, mostly for Last of Us, but also for a few other games.  I figure the smart thing to do is wait a year for the price to go way down and pick up it and all the games I want for cheap.  I wish they would put out Gundam games on the xbox, and I guess while I'm daydreaming, I wish they'd release them in the United States too.

I won't be buying Xbox One at launch, although I'm certain I will buy one at some point.  My buddies and I all play BF3 (and previously Reach) on the 360, and as a group we've collectively decided to stick with the 360 for BF4.  I was also lucky enough to never have a 360 red ring on me, but I didn't buy one until Halo 3 was released.
 
2013-08-20 04:13:31 PM

Antimatter: Carth: Anyone here have a Vita? I never was interested in one before but I like the idea of boarderlands 2 on it and the game with the upside head looked interesting.

The vita is...interesting.  Hardware wise, it's very, very solid.  Publishers in the west don't seem to like it though, outside Ubisoft and a few others.  Indies absolutely adore it, as do many Japanese devs from the smaller companies, like Arksys or atlas.

If you have psplus, it's a pretty good buy, save for the memory cards.  Games seem to drop in price pretty quick, and there is always a few free plus games you can play on it.

It's just...damn those cards.  If not for that it could have been a solid hit.  If you buy it as a ps4 companion that plays tons of games from smaller publishers, it's fantastic.  Else, just go get a iphone or 3ds.


With the price drop on the console/memory cards and Borderlands 2/Minecraft it seems like it would be a good handheld to play in bed and on plane rides. I'll look around online a bit more and see what people are saying
 
2013-08-20 04:14:55 PM

Antimatter: The vita is...interesting. Hardware wise, it's very, very solid.


I just want video out so my 39 year old eyes can play the games on a large screen when I am not on the train. The next version will aledgely have it, and there are some supposed work arounds for the current one, but I don't have a Mac.
 
2013-08-20 04:18:02 PM
 

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: Tyrone Slothrop: It's funny that Microsoft has reversed its position on nearly every "feature" of the XBone when they announced it. It makes you wonder if they have any market research staff at all.

I think it's more of the emperor has no clothes syndrome.  Upper mgmt was convinced that these were features that the users wanted and would accept, and the lower-level drones (market research staff) simply reinforced that outlook.


Makes you wonder if Sony saw the response to the 'featuers' in the XBone and reversed course before their announcement.
 
2013-08-20 04:18:41 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: It's funny that Microsoft has reversed its position on nearly every "feature" of the XBone when they announced it. It makes you wonder if they have any market research staff at all.


That's the weird thing about all this. You know damn well they spent millions on market research, that's a given. It's nice they were willing to back off of these things after the terrible backlash, my question is how the fark did they NOT know that backlash was coming? It was entirely predictable. To be fair the console gaming crowd was going to be loud and skewed to the negative no matter what came out but given that they were willing to back off one has to question why they just didn't go ahead and do it the way they have ended up doing it from the beginning and save themselves all these expensive to implement late changes?
 
2013-08-20 04:19:22 PM

Carth: With the price drop on the console/memory cards and Borderlands 2/Minecraft it seems like it would be a good handheld to play in bed and on plane rides. I'll look around online a bit more and see what people are saying


What i'm most looking forward to is free Issac int he spring, and the ps4 streaming.

Being able to play ps4 games from work while on lunch/break is awesome.  I can see myself really making use of that.
 
2013-08-20 04:21:15 PM

Antimatter: Being able to play ps4 games from work while on lunch/break is awesome. I can see myself really making use of that.


As I understood it you'll need to be on the same wifi network for the PS4 streaming to work. Is that wrong? So you'd be able to play while on the toilet but not from the office*


*unless you happen to have your ps4 on the network at the office... in which case are you hiring?
 
2013-08-20 04:24:41 PM

JohnBigBootay: That's the weird thing about all this. You know damn well they spent millions on market research, that's a given. It's nice they were willing to back off of these things after the terrible backlash, my question is how the fark did they NOT know that backlash was coming?


My assumption is that Microsoft, like every other tech firm nowadays, doesn't view the millions of people who use its products as their actual customers. No, the users are the product that they were selling to the actual customers, i.e. EA, Ubisoft, and other massive publishers. Those folks wanted DRM in return for increased exclusives, and MS went with what their true customers wanted.
 
2013-08-20 04:25:45 PM

bluenote13: IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: Tyrone Slothrop: It's funny that Microsoft has reversed its position on nearly every "feature" of the XBone when they announced it. It makes you wonder if they have any market research staff at all.

I think it's more of the emperor has no clothes syndrome.  Upper mgmt was convinced that these were features that the users wanted and would accept, and the lower-level drones (market research staff) simply reinforced that outlook.

Makes you wonder if Sony saw the response to the 'featuers' in the XBone and reversed course before their announcement.


Actually, IIRC, sony's basically said the same things since pre-release as they say now.  It's just a lot of folks thought sony had to be hiding something because of the Xbox rumors and revels.  People didn't like to think that one major console could have them, and the other couldn't.

Honestly, it's not surprising how they handled the ps4:  its the exact same stances as the ps3 and vita.

MS, I think, was enticed byt he idea of being the new appstore/iOS for the living room, and wanted their ultimate home entertainment walled garden.  After all, it seems to work for steam on the PC.  It's just, MS ignored why people accept steam, such as the ultra low prices for sales, and the competition form other digital stores.  And well, Pc and consoles are different markets, and MS failed to take that into account.

As a result, they had to react to sony not trying the same stuff they wanted to do, and in many ways, adopted all of sony stances for things, with a few ms twists.  I'd say the Xbox is much better off for abandoning their DMR stuff.
 
2013-08-20 04:28:02 PM

Carth: Antimatter: Being able to play ps4 games from work while on lunch/break is awesome. I can see myself really making use of that.

As I understood it you'll need to be on the same wifi network for the PS4 streaming to work. Is that wrong? So you'd be able to play while on the toilet but not from the office*


*unless you happen to have your ps4 on the network at the office... in which case are you hiring?


We don't have a ps4 in the family room at work yet, but maybe we can talk the boss into it.

As for playstation remote play?  IT works from anywhere you have wifi.

http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/psvita/remoteplay/viainte rn et.html
 
2013-08-20 04:28:29 PM

bluenote13:
Makes you wonder if Sony saw the response to the 'featuers' in the XBone and reversed course before their announcement.

I wonder that as well...I wouldn't put it past Sony to have had similar thoughts and essentially "luck out" by being the second to announce.


JohnBigBootay: Tyrone Slothrop: It's funny that Microsoft has reversed its position on nearly every "feature" of the XBone when they announced it. It makes you wonder if they have any market research staff at all.

That's the weird thing about all this. You know damn well they spent millions on market research, that's a given. It's nice they were willing to back off of these things after the terrible backlash, my question is how the fark did they NOT know that backlash was coming? It was entirely predictable. To be fair the console gaming crowd was going to be loud and skewed to the negative no matter what came out but given that they were willing to back off one has to question why they just didn't go ahead and do it the way they have ended up doing it from the beginning and save themselves all these expensive to implement late changes?


Again, I think these "features" were driven by upper management, so the worker bees skewed the focus group data to help fit the narrative. Maybe they figured it would be a small percentage of consumers, or that it would initially be a big deal and taper off rather quickly.   I don't think they correctly anticipated the amount of negative press coverage they received, nor Sony's PR taking pot-shots at them as well (i.e." This is how you share a game on PS4").
 
2013-08-20 04:29:17 PM

Antimatter: Carth: Anyone here have a Vita? I never was interested in one before but I like the idea of boarderlands 2 on it and the game with the upside head looked interesting.

The vita is...interesting.  Hardware wise, it's very, very solid.  Publishers in the west don't seem to like it though, outside Ubisoft and a few others.  Indies absolutely adore it, as do many Japanese devs from the smaller companies, like Arksys or atlas.

If you have psplus, it's a pretty good buy, save for the memory cards.  Games seem to drop in price pretty quick, and there is always a few free plus games you can play on it.

It's just...damn those cards.  If not for that it could have been a solid hit.  If you buy it as a ps4 companion that plays tons of games from smaller publishers, it's fantastic.  Else, just go get a iphone or 3ds.


What cards?
 
2013-08-20 04:31:43 PM

Antimatter: Carth: Antimatter: Being able to play ps4 games from work while on lunch/break is awesome. I can see myself really making use of that.

As I understood it you'll need to be on the same wifi network for the PS4 streaming to work. Is that wrong? So you'd be able to play while on the toilet but not from the office*


*unless you happen to have your ps4 on the network at the office... in which case are you hiring?

We don't have a ps4 in the family room at work yet, but maybe we can talk the boss into it.

As for playstation remote play?  IT works from anywhere you have wifi.

http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/psvita/remoteplay/viainte rn et.html


Thanks for the link. I was confused by the wikipedia page on remote play.
 
2013-08-20 04:32:30 PM

Klivian: oh_please: I honestly think the $499 price tag is gonna be a deal breaker.

All they have to do is un-bundle the Kinnect, and off it at $400 and everything swings back to MS. It will also mean a complete flip-flop on everything that MS said they would not change (always on, no used games).

I was at a training session for work (Six Sigma for those curious, and ye gods was it tedious) and one of the things that got driven home was the idea of value. Value being defined as "something the customer is willing to pay for"

The Kinnect is something that customers don't want, and don't want to have to pay extra for. Improve the value of the One by un-bundling it and you increase how attractive it is. How is it that a megacorp like MS doesn't know basic business?


You sound....brainwashed.
 
2013-08-20 04:32:34 PM

Antimatter: Carth: With the price drop on the console/memory cards and Borderlands 2/Minecraft it seems like it would be a good handheld to play in bed and on plane rides. I'll look around online a bit more and see what people are saying

What i'm most looking forward to is free Issac int he spring, and the ps4 streaming.

Being able to play ps4 games from work while on lunch/break is awesome.  I can see myself really making use of that.


Will it work as good as the psp/ps3 streaming? Cause that was totally useless shiat.
 
2013-08-20 04:33:31 PM

Carth: Smelly McUgly: I have always hated Killer Instinct's juggle-mania gameplay, but that looks like the only interesting game here. I thought Titanfall was coming out as a launch title, but either I missed it on the list or I was wrong.

I really hate how they are releasing KI. $5 per character or you can buy "bundles" of them.


You are kidding, right?

http://www.gamespot.com/events/gamescom-2013/xbox-one-killer-instinc t- characters-will-be-5-each-6413217/

Uh...

So is it just the base game with one fighter for free and then you have to pay for characters, or is the base game like twenty bucks and then you have to buy characters?
 
2013-08-20 04:37:27 PM

Smelly McUgly: Carth: Smelly McUgly: I have always hated Killer Instinct's juggle-mania gameplay, but that looks like the only interesting game here. I thought Titanfall was coming out as a launch title, but either I missed it on the list or I was wrong.

I really hate how they are releasing KI. $5 per character or you can buy "bundles" of them.

You are kidding, right?

http://www.gamespot.com/events/gamescom-2013/xbox-one-killer-instinc t- characters-will-be-5-each-6413217/

Uh...

So is it just the base game with one fighter for free and then you have to pay for characters, or is the base game like twenty bucks and then you have to buy characters?


The base game is free with one character. After that you need to buy characters. There are packages for $20 and $40 but as far as I've heard no way to test characters before you buy them.
 
2013-08-20 04:41:40 PM
My son it not all that pumped about the XBOne.  He was saying this time around, a PS4 may be better.  I told him he as the third option of joining the glorious gaming master race by building a PC we can hook to the TV.  I really don't play on the console that much more anyway, we preferred multiplayer, same screen, RPGs, that we could all play.  With that genre more or less dead, we are having more fun with PCs anyway with things like Torchlight and other games.  He's also started to take a interest in retrogaming, so we are setting up VMs and playing some old stuff.  Works pretty well, all in all.
 
2013-08-20 04:42:27 PM
Smelly McUgly: I have always hated Killer Instinct's juggle-mania

I think you mean combo-mania.
 
2013-08-20 04:42:35 PM
Klivian:
I was at a training session for work (Six Sigma for those curious, and ye gods was it tedious) and one of the things that got driven home was the idea of value. Value being defined as "something the customer is willing to pay for"

Value is an interesting proposition.  I don't remember the case study offhand, but the gist of it was that HP had a PDA they were shopping around in focus groups.  When they priced it on the low end ($199 I believe), the focus groups didn't show much interest in it as they perceived it couldn't be that great of an offering for that price.  They shopped the exact same PDA to more focus groups, but this time with a higher price ($399 I believe) and found that the groups LOVED it.  They perceived it was a great value for the money, because the higher offering price meant that it had to be a great piece of tech.

/Really wish I knew which case study that was, it was a great read
 
2013-08-20 04:44:58 PM

Smelly McUgly: Carth: Smelly McUgly: I have always hated Killer Instinct's juggle-mania gameplay, but that looks like the only interesting game here. I thought Titanfall was coming out as a launch title, but either I missed it on the list or I was wrong.

I really hate how they are releasing KI. $5 per character or you can buy "bundles" of them.

You are kidding, right?

http://www.gamespot.com/events/gamescom-2013/xbox-one-killer-instinc t- characters-will-be-5-each-6413217/

Uh...

So is it just the base game with one fighter for free and then you have to pay for characters, or is the base game like twenty bucks and then you have to buy characters?


It looks like the game itself is free and you can add additional characters for $.  It's different,  it goes beyond just hats but as free to play goes that isn't completely awful if you like the game you "buy it for either 20 or 40"  It isn't a constant outlay free to play game.
 
2013-08-20 04:47:49 PM

sethen320: Antimatter: Carth: Anyone here have a Vita? I never was interested in one before but I like the idea of boarderlands 2 on it and the game with the upside head looked interesting.

The vita is...interesting.  Hardware wise, it's very, very solid.  Publishers in the west don't seem to like it though, outside Ubisoft and a few others.  Indies absolutely adore it, as do many Japanese devs from the smaller companies, like Arksys or atlas.

If you have psplus, it's a pretty good buy, save for the memory cards.  Games seem to drop in price pretty quick, and there is always a few free plus games you can play on it.

It's just...damn those cards.  If not for that it could have been a solid hit.  If you buy it as a ps4 companion that plays tons of games from smaller publishers, it's fantastic.  Else, just go get a iphone or 3ds.

What cards?


The vita uses micro SD liek cards that only work on a vita for mass storage.  They are, frankly, overpriced.
 
2013-08-20 04:51:27 PM
Oh man! I'm so glad I pre-ordered so I can be the first person on my block to play Peggle 2!!!
 
2013-08-20 04:52:28 PM

sethen320: Will it work as good as the psp/ps3 streaming? Cause that was totally useless shiat.


Better.  The vita has faster wireless, the ps4 has custom hardware set aside just for streaming/capture so no performance hit, and sony built the tools for vita remote play into the ps4 SDK, so its really easy for devs to implement, you just chose a control scheme and the sdk does the rest.

Nefarious: It looks like the game itself is free and you can add additional characters for $. It's different, it goes beyond just hats but as free to play goes that isn't completely awful if you like the game you "buy it for either 20 or 40" It isn't a constant outlay free to play game.


Yep.  $20 or $40 for six characters, two more later.  And some costumes.

That's...just wow.  If there was any way to kill the hype for a fighter, it's to announce a anemic roster like that behind a paywall.
 
2013-08-20 04:54:05 PM

oh_please: I honestly think the $499 price tag is gonna be a deal breaker.


Yea for around $800 you can build a pretty decent gaming PC. Which can play the current generation of games and be upgraded piece meal for life.

I'm going to get BF 4 on PC and then wait till a must-play game comes out on xbox or ps4 before thinking about upgrading.
 
2013-08-20 04:54:45 PM

Smelly McUgly: Carth: Smelly McUgly: I have always hated Killer Instinct's juggle-mania gameplay, but that looks like the only interesting game here. I thought Titanfall was coming out as a launch title, but either I missed it on the list or I was wrong.

I really hate how they are releasing KI. $5 per character or you can buy "bundles" of them.

You are kidding, right?

http://www.gamespot.com/events/gamescom-2013/xbox-one-killer-instinc t- characters-will-be-5-each-6413217/

Uh...

So is it just the base game with one fighter for free and then you have to pay for characters, or is the base game like twenty bucks and then you have to buy characters?


Base game is free, each of the six additional fighters is $5.00, or you can get them all for $20.

Basically, it's a fully functional demo and if you want you can pay incrementally for new characters as you go or drop $20 for the full game.
 
2013-08-20 04:54:59 PM

Antimatter: That's...just wow. If there was any way to kill the hype for a fighter, it's to announce a anemic roster like that behind a paywall.


I'd be less annoyed by it if there is a way to test a chacter out against a dummy of some kind. In most fighting games I only use one character anyway.
 
2013-08-20 05:00:12 PM
Sony announced their release window list as well, many of the same third party titles.  15 retail disks in the 'launch window' and 18 PSN games.

Seems that since sony is releasing before some of their third party games, they won't hit day one, but rather, as they would normally release.
 
2013-08-20 05:00:23 PM

lordargent: McGrits: The ability of the ps3 to update it bluray movie playback capability as the medium developed was its true saving grace.

In my case,

I started with a PS2, my flatmate at the time had an xbox, I started buying xbox games. When he moved out, I bought an xbox (so that I could continue to play xbox games).

Then the 360 came out, I waited a few months before buying it (waiting for burnout revenge to be released). Got a bunch of 360 games.

Didn't see anything on the PS3 that I wanted, didn't (and still don't) care about blu-ray, I buy gaming consoles to play games.

// eventually, I bought a launch PS3 from a friend (it was collecting dust in her house) for $200. I played heavy rain, little big planet and uncharted. And now it's collecting dust (until I have time to get/play the last of us))
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// The hardware is fine, but I hate the UI, I basically hardly turn the thing on.


Yea only thing I played on my PS3 was uncharted, GOW, and Grand Turismo. I kind of like forza better anyway but was trying to justify still having the PS3 at that point. Think I watched 1 or 2 blu-ray movies on it. Oh and also played that game MAG cause I liked the prospects of 128 vs. 128 battles, but now do that with Planetside 2
 
2013-08-20 05:06:11 PM

mizchief: lordargent: McGrits: The ability of the ps3 to update it bluray movie playback capability as the medium developed was its true saving grace.

In my case,

I started with a PS2, my flatmate at the time had an xbox, I started buying xbox games. When he moved out, I bought an xbox (so that I could continue to play xbox games).

Then the 360 came out, I waited a few months before buying it (waiting for burnout revenge to be released). Got a bunch of 360 games.

Didn't see anything on the PS3 that I wanted, didn't (and still don't) care about blu-ray, I buy gaming consoles to play games.

// eventually, I bought a launch PS3 from a friend (it was collecting dust in her house) for $200. I played heavy rain, little big planet and uncharted. And now it's collecting dust (until I have time to get/play the last of us))
.
// The hardware is fine, but I hate the UI, I basically hardly turn the thing on.

Yea only thing I played on my PS3 was uncharted, GOW, and Grand Turismo. I kind of like forza better anyway but was trying to justify still having the PS3 at that point. Think I watched 1 or 2 blu-ray movies on it. Oh and also played that game MAG cause I liked the prospects of 128 vs. 128 battles, but now do that with Planetside 2


You didn't play Last of US? it is probably the best game of this generation and almost worth the $200 price fo a PS3 alone.
 
2013-08-20 05:08:20 PM

wingnut396: My son it not all that pumped about the XBOne.  He was saying this time around, a PS4 may be better.  I told him he as the third option of joining the glorious gaming master race by building a PC we can hook to the TV.  I really don't play on the console that much more anyway, we preferred multiplayer, same screen, RPGs, that we could all play.  With that genre more or less dead, we are having more fun with PCs anyway with things like Torchlight and other games.  He's also started to take a interest in retrogaming, so we are setting up VMs and playing some old stuff.  Works pretty well, all in all.


Yea the only thing that keeps me playing console version vs. PC of some games is playing with friends too cheap/stupid to build a gaming rig and the nice 60' LED and sound system in the living room. I just need a good system for playing mouse & keyboard games in the living room and i'm set.
 
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