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(Purdue Exponent)   Mitch Daniels wanted to remove the Howard Zinn textbook because of Zinn's biased views, and replace it with Bill Bennett's textbook   (purdueexponent.org) divider line 69
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2013-08-20 05:42:35 PM  

EyeballKid: From the guy who managed President George W. Bush's budget. Think about that. Of course, that's not fair, because that was back when deficits didn't matter.


Hey, Bush didn't build the deficit at all. All that Iraq War debt wasn't in the equation. It's easy when you just make it separate from the budget.
 
2013-08-20 05:47:51 PM  
She replied that getting Slusser to fly Bill Bennett to the Aug. 14 fundraiser shouldn't be a problem. Slusser, a Republican donor charged $600,000 by federal regulators for defrauding German investors in the late '90s, owns an aviation company.

Jeez. The GOP can't even fly a plane without it becoming thievery.
 
2013-08-20 05:50:36 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Capitalism is the most efficient economic system to maximize productivity, lower costs to consumers, and provide opportunity for individuals to gain and thrive.


Except those times when rent-seekers game the system in their favor, destroying efficiencies for the sake of monopoly and skewing the "natural" order of the marketplace to fill their own pockets. And everyone knows capitalism is nothing if not rational, like when Holland went to the tulip-standard for their economy in the 1630s, founding the fiscal environment we all know today.
 
2013-08-20 06:59:53 PM  

theorellior: Debeo Summa Credo: Capitalism is the most efficient economic system to maximize productivity, lower costs to consumers, and provide opportunity for individuals to gain and thrive.

Except those times when rent-seekers game the system in their favor, destroying efficiencies for the sake of monopoly and skewing the "natural" order of the marketplace to fill their own pockets. And everyone knows capitalism is nothing if not rational, like when Holland went to the tulip-standard for their economy in the 1630s, founding the fiscal environment we all know today.


Though those "times" are far fewer than you probably imagine them to be, even then capitalism is still far better than the alternative.
 
2013-08-20 07:19:09 PM  

Isitoveryet: How about just pass out the Tea Party Coloring Book.


I bet this is printed in China.
 
2013-08-20 07:38:07 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Though those "times" are far fewer than you probably imagine them to be, even then capitalism is still far better than the alternative.


Regulated capitalism is probably the best system possible, but it's gotta be regulated. Too much latitude for "irrational exuberance", rent-seeking behavior and regulatory capture otherwise. The people who most loudly crow about the "free market economy" have absolutely no desire to live in a pure supply-and-demand-driven marketplace, and they take steps accordingly. When price transparency and free exchange threaten to evaporate profits, there's money to be made in artificially prolonging those profits.
 
2013-08-20 08:33:17 PM  

Headso: that's pretty much how conservatives handle media in general.


It's not the media. It's Libbie brainwashing, Libbie history revisionism text books.
 
2013-08-20 08:39:31 PM  

EyeballKid: CoolHandLucas: Daniels was also a pretty good governor, who did some things that weren't popular in some circles for the good of the state (namely the Indiana Toll Road lease to finance "Major Moves" and the budget cuts that kept Indiana in much better fiscal shape than neighbor states).

Quite the economic genius, that Daniels:

Step 1. Have casinos.
Step 2. Have neighboring state not allow casino gambling.
Step 3. Profit.


Did Daniels also take credit for the sun rising?


He can take credit for the sun rising later, Libbie. Can your Obama do that?
 
2013-08-20 08:43:55 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Daniels also tried to save money by outsourcing the welfare enrollment facility to IBM. That failed:

In 2006, Daniels continued his effort to reduce state operating costs by signing into law a bill privatizing the enrollment service for the state's welfare programs. Indiana's welfare enrollment facilities were replaced with operated by. In mid-2009, after complaints of poor service, Daniels canceled the contract and returned the enrollment service to the public sector


My plates expired last Wednesday. I can remember a time in Indiana when if you needed to register your car, you had to take a day off work, get in line 2 hours before the doors opened at the BMV, hustle in, get a number, and wait your ass off for 4 hours to get your plates.

This year, I got up, drove to the bmv, walked in, took a number. Before I got the number off the printer, my number was being called (I shiat you not). I was in and out in 5 minutes.

For that, I worship that man, Mr. Daniels.
 
2013-08-20 08:46:18 PM  

heap: EyeballKid: CoolHandLucas: Daniels was also a pretty good governor, who did some things that weren't popular in some circles for the good of the state (namely the Indiana Toll Road lease to finance "Major Moves" and the budget cuts that kept Indiana in much better fiscal shape than neighbor states).

Quite the economic genius, that Daniels:

Step 1. Have casinos.
Step 2. Have neighboring state not allow casino gambling.
Step 3. Profit.


Did Daniels also take credit for the sun rising?

considering indiana now plays along with daylight savings time because of him, yah. kinda, he did.


you beat me to it! All Hail Mr. Daniels!!1
 
2013-08-20 10:38:23 PM  
Can't both authors be pretty biased?
 
2013-08-20 11:13:32 PM  

JonBuck: Zinn wrote his history with a specific political view in mind, and the entire book is an example of that bias. I think it would be a good tool to teach about historical bias by including a similarly biased work by a conservative.

To be truly impartial you have to separate your personal politics from the facts.


My American History teacher in high school actually did this.  Best history course I ever took.
 
2013-08-20 11:48:30 PM  

Dr Dreidel: How about the comic-book-style history of the US (can't remember the title and Google isn't helping)? I read part of it over a lazy weekend once, and it has a lot of stuff we either glossed over or ignored in my history classes.

// also, standardizing the courses might help
// I don't think I needed 3 classes on "America 1700-1800" and zero on "America 1930-1990" (graduated HS in '99)


The Cartoon History of the United States, I think. I remember it being a recommended text freshman year and some students getting pissy over it.
 
2013-08-21 12:03:14 AM  
Daniels is a dork.
 
2013-08-21 12:05:04 AM  

Car_Ramrod: conservative education leader

What is that, like an Amish astronaut?


more like "business ethics"
 
2013-08-21 12:07:06 AM  

ikanreed: Yeah, okay, Zinn's a bit liberal, but really only as much as standard textbooks lean conservative.


Zinn was a radical and proud of it.  He wrote the book as a corrective to all the rightwing bullshiat pumped out by Bennett and his ilk.
 
2013-08-21 12:10:32 AM  

The First Four Katy Perry Albums: Can't both authors be pretty biased?


That both authors might be biased doesn't necessarily mean that both accounts are equally valid.  Zinn was a talented historian and Bennett is a think tank hack.
 
2013-08-21 12:55:02 AM  

DeaH: Car_Ramrod: conservative education leader

What is that, like an Amish astronaut?

No one ever calls Bennett by the title under which he first became well-known, Reagan's Drug Tzar.


Whoa. Only Fartbama has Czars. He's the goddamn commie, not Ronnie (pants-pooper) Reagan. Show some respect, you f*ck.
 
2013-08-21 10:53:55 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: I'm just appalled that those yahoos at Purdue made this asshole their President.  Ye Gads.



Step 1: appoint state university board of trustees while governor.
Step 2: appoint "independent" reviewer to determine no conflict of interest to have trustees hire you as president
Step 3: profit?
 
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