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(Washington Post)   No, Glenn Greenwald did not say, "I'll get you my pretties, and your little dog too"   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 129
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2013-08-20 12:55:58 PM  
Damage was already done in the first hour of the story.
 
2013-08-20 12:58:26 PM  
Greenwald has some serious personal issues and quite an axe to grind with all forms of authority.
 
2013-08-20 12:58:41 PM  
REALLY don't care about Glenn Greenwald, professional scold/troll.
 
2013-08-20 01:00:09 PM  
From the Thanks for helping department:

Guy Who Wrote Legal Memos Defending US Torture Defends NSA Because It Takes Too Long To Obey The Constitution

John Yoo, of course, is somewhat infamous for being the author of the so-called "Torture Memos," while he was Deputy US Attorney General for President George W. Bush, giving the Bush administration a horrific legal "justification" for torture.

You go Yoo
 
2013-08-20 01:01:25 PM  
Greenwald has two motivations.
1. He hates America.
2. $$$
 
2013-08-20 01:01:42 PM  
I will be far more aggressive in my reporting from now. I am going to publish many more documents. I am going to publish things on England too. I have many documents on England's spy system.I think they will be sorry for what they did. [...] They wanted to intimidate our journalism, to show that they have power and will not remain passive but will attack us more intensely if we continue publishing their secrets.

What would you call that then?
 
2013-08-20 01:03:34 PM  
Who now?
 
2013-08-20 01:06:07 PM  
The Reuter's version definitely makes it sound like he's vindictive, and we've got their quote vs. Greenwald's own "paraphrase" of what he said. Unless he has a tape proving Reuter's is lying, this is just him trying to walk back some comments that make him look petty.

Dude is the textbook definition of sanctimonious, I always disliked him and this whole Snowden thing makes my distaste a thousand times stronger.
 
2013-08-20 01:07:05 PM  
I've been quickly losing respect for Greenwald since this whole Snowden thing started.

You can't hide behind "journalism" and then threaten to release embarrasing documents at your pace when you feel its going to do the most damage to your enemies.
 
2013-08-20 01:09:39 PM  
So this is the new Washington Post.  How refreshing!
 
2013-08-20 01:10:19 PM  

steverockson: Greenwald has two motivations.
1. He hates America.
2. $$$


So are those crimes?
 
2013-08-20 01:11:37 PM  

rikkitikkitavi: Greenwald has some serious personal issues and quite an axe to grind with all forms of authority.


THIS
 
2013-08-20 01:12:10 PM  
It sounds like this Greenwald guy is an arsehole. It also sounds like some bureaucrats got their knickers in a twist over the reporting and tried to intimidate someone.

I think they all deserve what's coming.
 
2013-08-20 01:13:47 PM  
So Greenwald admits that he has secret documents belonging to the British government yet still thinks he gets to be indignant about them detaining his husband?
 
2013-08-20 01:14:18 PM  
 
2013-08-20 01:14:48 PM  
Go, Greenwald.
His actions will determine the history of the Western civilization.
Save freedom of speech/press
... while the government tries every dirty trick of chew off one more bit of freedom out of our lives.
 
2013-08-20 01:15:08 PM  
What a queer turn-up.

Also: Every party in this story is contemptible.
 
2013-08-20 01:15:33 PM  

James!: So Greenwald admits that he has secret documents belonging to the British government yet still thinks he gets to be indignant about them detaining his husband?


Are you trying to claim that possession of documents leaked by a whistle blower is a crime?

The Supreme Court disagrees.
 
2013-08-20 01:16:48 PM  

mr0x: His actions will determine the history of the Western civilization.


Hyperbole is the greatest thing ever.
 
2013-08-20 01:18:38 PM  

Valiente: What a queer turn-up.

Also: Every party in this story is contemptible.


Both sides are bad, so vote NSA
 
2013-08-20 01:19:16 PM  

BullBearMS: James!: So Greenwald admits that he has secret documents belonging to the British government yet still thinks he gets to be indignant about them detaining his husband?

Are you trying to claim that possession of documents leaked by a whistle blower is a crime?

The Supreme Court disagrees.


The Supreme Court of England?
 
2013-08-20 01:20:44 PM  

BullBearMS: Are you trying to claim that possession of documents leaked by a whistle blower is a crime?

The Supreme Court disagrees


Classified documents?

If someone gives me classified documents and I don't give them back to the government, but instead make those documents public little by little, the Supreme Court said that is okay?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-20 01:20:49 PM  

James!: mr0x: His actions will determine the history of the Western civilization.

Hyperbole is the greatest thing ever.


The stupidest statement in the history of the world.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-20 01:21:32 PM  

vernonFL: BullBearMS: Are you trying to claim that possession of documents leaked by a whistle blower is a crime?

The Supreme Court disagrees

Classified documents?


How is it illegal to have Classifieds?  The paper prints them every day.
 
2013-08-20 01:22:01 PM  

James!: BullBearMS: James!: So Greenwald admits that he has secret documents belonging to the British government yet still thinks he gets to be indignant about them detaining his husband?

Are you trying to claim that possession of documents leaked by a whistle blower is a crime?

The Supreme Court disagrees.

The Supreme Court of England?


What nation is Greenwald a citizen of again?
 
2013-08-20 01:22:18 PM  

d23: James!: mr0x: His actions will determine the history of the Western civilization.

Hyperbole is the greatest thing ever.

The stupidest statement in the history of the world.


I will literally smash through this computer and rip out your soul. LITERALLY!
 
2013-08-20 01:22:47 PM  
Six of one, half a dozen of the same thing.
 
2013-08-20 01:23:23 PM  

BullBearMS: James!: BullBearMS: James!: So Greenwald admits that he has secret documents belonging to the British government yet still thinks he gets to be indignant about them detaining his husband?

Are you trying to claim that possession of documents leaked by a whistle blower is a crime?

The Supreme Court disagrees.

The Supreme Court of England?

What nation is Greenwald a citizen of again?


When did Greenwald get detained?
 
2013-08-20 01:23:48 PM  

vernonFL: BullBearMS: Are you trying to claim that possession of documents leaked by a whistle blower is a crime?

The Supreme Court disagrees

Classified documents?

If someone gives me classified documents and I don't give them back to the government, but instead make those documents public little by little, the Supreme Court said that is okay?


The person who gave you the documents might be in trouble, if they used their clearance to leak the documents to you... but as a member of the press, you can write whatever the hell you want to write or reprint whatever documents are in your possession... yes, that's ok (in the context of law), the first amendment is very clear on the topic.
 
2013-08-20 01:24:04 PM  
Edward Snowden's Real Impact

Snowden "is very pleased with the debate that is arising in many countries around the world on Internet privacy and U.S. spying. It is exactly the debate he wanted to inform."


Princess Leia: The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.
 
2013-08-20 01:26:18 PM  
Interesting that so many would label Greenwald as the troublemaker in this case.

But, slaves will be slaves.
 
2013-08-20 01:26:25 PM  

vernonFL: BullBearMS: Are you trying to claim that possession of documents leaked by a whistle blower is a crime?

The Supreme Court disagrees

Classified documents?

If someone gives me classified documents and I don't give them back to the government, but instead make those documents public little by little, the Supreme Court said that is okay?


Yup.

Decades ago, Daniel Ellsberg leaked a Top Secret report showing that our leadership had lied us into the Vietnam war. He gave this proof to the New York Times. They began publishing the report in segments.

Nixon tried to shut them down and charge people with espionage.

Nixon got biatch slapped by the Supreme Court.

Only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government. And paramount among the responsibilities of a free press is the duty to prevent any part of the government from deceiving the people and sending them off to distant lands to die of foreign fevers and foreign shot and shell.
-Justice Black
 
2013-08-20 01:27:16 PM  
I will be far more aggressive in my reporting from now. I am going to publish many more documents. I am going to publish things on England too. I have many documents on England's spy system.I think they will be sorry for what they did.

It will embolden me: I have many more documents to report on, including ones about the UK, where I'll now focus more. I will be more aggressive, not less, in reporting.


Shouldn't he be doing this regardless of what happened to his professional/personal partner? He could've just said, "This won't stop my duty to report the truth". But now he's making it about him and his feelings. Good job.
 
2013-08-20 01:27:23 PM  

James!: BullBearMS: James!: BullBearMS: James!: So Greenwald admits that he has secret documents belonging to the British government yet still thinks he gets to be indignant about them detaining his husband?

Are you trying to claim that possession of documents leaked by a whistle blower is a crime?

The Supreme Court disagrees.

The Supreme Court of England?

What nation is Greenwald a citizen of again?

When did Greenwald get detained?


Greenwald got detained?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-20 01:27:53 PM  

BullBearMS: Only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government. And paramount among the responsibilities of a free press is the duty to prevent any part of the government from deceiving the people and sending them off to distant lands to die of foreign fevers and foreign shot and shell.
-Justice Black


The court is owned by the Corporate-Government complex now.  You can't expect them to understand this!!
 
2013-08-20 01:28:10 PM  
It really was all about sending a message to journalists...
 
2013-08-20 01:28:15 PM  

mrlewish: steverockson: Greenwald has two motivations.
1. He hates America.
2. $$$

So are those crimes?


He/She used the word motivations, not crimes.
 
2013-08-20 01:28:20 PM  

FTGodWin: Interesting that so many would label Greenwald as the troublemaker in this case.

But, slaves will be slaves.


You don't understand. If we allow the NSA to continue its activities, we'll finally start spreading freedom and democracy all over the world.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-20 01:28:33 PM  

BullBearMS: James!: BullBearMS: James!: BullBearMS: James!: So Greenwald admits that he has secret documents belonging to the British government yet still thinks he gets to be indignant about them detaining his husband?

Are you trying to claim that possession of documents leaked by a whistle blower is a crime?

The Supreme Court disagrees.

The Supreme Court of England?

What nation is Greenwald a citizen of again?

When did Greenwald get detained?

Greenwald got detained?


Who is Greenwald?
 
2013-08-20 01:29:06 PM  

firefly212: vernonFL: BullBearMS: Are you trying to claim that possession of documents leaked by a whistle blower is a crime?

The Supreme Court disagrees

Classified documents?

If someone gives me classified documents and I don't give them back to the government, but instead make those documents public little by little, the Supreme Court said that is okay?

The person who gave you the documents might be in trouble, if they used their clearance to leak the documents to you... but as a member of the press, you can write whatever the hell you want to write or reprint whatever documents are in your possession... yes, that's ok (in the context of law), the first amendment is very clear on the topic.


The first amendment of England?
 
2013-08-20 01:30:15 PM  

BullBearMS: Decades ago, Daniel Ellsberg leaked a Top Secret report showing that our leadership had lied us into the Vietnam war. He gave this proof to the New York Times. They began publishing the report in segments.

Nixon tried to shut them down and charge people with espionage.

Nixon got biatch slapped by the Supreme Court.

Only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government. And paramount among the responsibilities of a free press is the duty to prevent any part of the government from deceiving the people and sending them off to distant lands to die of foreign fevers and foreign shot and shell.
-Justice Black


Well then I could be completely wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. Huh. Thanks.
 
2013-08-20 01:30:29 PM  

BullBearMS: James!: BullBearMS: James!: BullBearMS: James!: So Greenwald admits that he has secret documents belonging to the British government yet still thinks he gets to be indignant about them detaining his husband?

Are you trying to claim that possession of documents leaked by a whistle blower is a crime?

The Supreme Court disagrees.

The Supreme Court of England?

What nation is Greenwald a citizen of again?

When did Greenwald get detained?

Greenwald got detained?


Exactly, now lets talk about what actually happened.  A Brazillian citizen was detained by England.  What the fark does the US Supreme Court have to do with that?
 
2013-08-20 01:30:39 PM  

propasaurus: firefly212: vernonFL: BullBearMS: Are you trying to claim that possession of documents leaked by a whistle blower is a crime?

The Supreme Court disagrees

Classified documents?

If someone gives me classified documents and I don't give them back to the government, but instead make those documents public little by little, the Supreme Court said that is okay?

The person who gave you the documents might be in trouble, if they used their clearance to leak the documents to you... but as a member of the press, you can write whatever the hell you want to write or reprint whatever documents are in your possession... yes, that's ok (in the context of law), the first amendment is very clear on the topic.

The first amendment of England?


There is an England?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-20 01:31:59 PM  

BullBearMS: propasaurus: firefly212: vernonFL: BullBearMS: Are you trying to claim that possession of documents leaked by a whistle blower is a crime?

The Supreme Court disagrees

Classified documents?

If someone gives me classified documents and I don't give them back to the government, but instead make those documents public little by little, the Supreme Court said that is okay?

The person who gave you the documents might be in trouble, if they used their clearance to leak the documents to you... but as a member of the press, you can write whatever the hell you want to write or reprint whatever documents are in your possession... yes, that's ok (in the context of law), the first amendment is very clear on the topic.

The first amendment of England?

There is an England?


There is no there there.
 
2013-08-20 01:32:00 PM  

d23: BullBearMS: James!: BullBearMS: James!: BullBearMS: James!: So Greenwald admits that he has secret documents belonging to the British government yet still thinks he gets to be indignant about them detaining his husband?

Are you trying to claim that possession of documents leaked by a whistle blower is a crime?

The Supreme Court disagrees.

The Supreme Court of England?

What nation is Greenwald a citizen of again?

When did Greenwald get detained?

Greenwald got detained?

Who is Greenwald?


Who's a greenhorn? What's a greenhorn?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-20 01:32:40 PM  

Car_Ramrod: d23: BullBearMS: James!: BullBearMS: James!: BullBearMS: James!: So Greenwald admits that he has secret documents belonging to the British government yet still thinks he gets to be indignant about them detaining his husband?

Are you trying to claim that possession of documents leaked by a whistle blower is a crime?

The Supreme Court disagrees.

The Supreme Court of England?

What nation is Greenwald a citizen of again?

When did Greenwald get detained?

Greenwald got detained?

Who is Greenwald?

Who's a greenhorn? What's a greenhorn?


Don't show your horn off here.
 
2013-08-20 01:35:06 PM  

vernonFL: BullBearMS: Decades ago, Daniel Ellsberg leaked a Top Secret report showing that our leadership had lied us into the Vietnam war. He gave this proof to the New York Times. They began publishing the report in segments.

Nixon tried to shut them down and charge people with espionage.

Nixon got biatch slapped by the Supreme Court.

Only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government. And paramount among the responsibilities of a free press is the duty to prevent any part of the government from deceiving the people and sending them off to distant lands to die of foreign fevers and foreign shot and shell.
-Justice Black

Well then I could be completely wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. Huh. Thanks.


What he's leaving out is that the situation with the Pentagon Papers was that they addressed things that had already happened. The government couldn't argue that their release harmed national security.  The Snowden leaks concern things that are happening so who knows.
 
2013-08-20 01:38:40 PM  

steverockson: Greenwald has two motivations.
1. He hates America.
2. $$$


because the US Government never does anything wrong and there's no evidence that they are now?
 
2013-08-20 01:38:57 PM  

d23: How is it illegal to have Classifieds? The paper prints them every day.


Well the idea that it's some how a crime to disclose information that every foreign government and large corporation is privy to is somehow treason, that's certainly retarded. I mean if Snotnosen had access to this stuff, then the Russians, Chinese, Iranians, Israeli's, Pakistani's and most large corporations all know this stuff ass well. (And if the Pakistani's or the Saudi's know something then Al Qaeda knows it too)
 
2013-08-20 01:40:57 PM  
 
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