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(The Atlantic Wire)   Man collapses and dies after ______________ for 72 hours straight. A) Farking. B) Playing his favorite MMORPG. C) Working at his job as an unpaid intern for Bank of America   (theatlanticwire.com ) divider line 18
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2013-08-20 02:26:48 PM  
4 votes:
If we can agree on no other facts on this story, can we just agree that BofA is staffed by assholes?
2013-08-20 02:56:55 PM  
3 votes:

Rurouni: More misleading bullshiat. He had pre-existing conditions/illnesses.

Besides in college, programming and working on major projects for 3-4 days straight was not uncommon and nobody in any of my classes died...


Yes.  You work very hard.  Congratulations.
Being required to work 100+ hours would exacerbate his condition.  He's dead because a company that can turns $2,000,000,000 profit in A QUARTER shiats on their employees, who in turn shiat on their customers.
2013-08-20 12:53:53 PM  
3 votes:
Is this where I explode about companies not paying their interns? I've worked at 4 small companies and 1 large corporation that had interns, the small companies had a soul and paid whatever minimum wage was plus 2 dollars, the large corporation paid nothing, under the guise of "They get to put MCI/WorldCom on their resume."
2013-08-20 02:41:52 PM  
2 votes:
What, in banking, is there that requires non-stop, nose to the grindstone type of work?

/DAMN IT, where was I, I lost track, was I at 4.234367 billion or... I HAVE TO START OVER, GAH!
2013-08-20 07:34:33 PM  
1 vote:

Seat's Taken: What, in banking, is there that requires non-stop, nose to the grindstone type of work?

/DAMN IT, where was I, I lost track, was I at 4.234367 billion or... I HAVE TO START OVER, GAH!


In case you are actually curious...

Worked for another bank as big as BOA. From stories I heard of how things were across the pond, they are all the same.

Imagine, if you will, the worst bureaucracy you can possibly imagine (think Hitchhiker's galaxy)... Multiply that by 10. -That's the environment.

Then think of the stupidest manager you can imagine (Dilbert's boss) and imagine how incompetent and power hungry you'd have to be to have Dilbert's boss fire you. -That's the management.

Then add it up to an environment where you can be fired for a simple typo. Where decisions are made *only* if they help the boss out, and micromanaging is the norm. Zero tolerance/zero intelligence. -That's the culture.

Then silo up every department you can and insulate related departments from each other, and have manager's at each other's throats trying to make each other look bad in the hopes that they get the next promotion.

What you get is a company that requires a 40% uptick in pay to attract talent and after two years of this awesome pay, the real talent decides, "fark it, there's more important things in life than money" and leaves.

100 hour work weeks doesn't surprise me at all, even if they *were* paying him, and then, even if they were paying him by the *hour* still wouldn't surprise me. It was most likely entirely unnecessary work designed to make his boss look good for his next promotion. -I've been there, I've gotten two managers promoted because of my work in under two years as a high level consultant.

The work was entirely unnecessary, but they got tons of praise for it.
2013-08-20 03:31:48 PM  
1 vote:

Rurouni: Rurouni: Nana's Vibrator: Rurouni: More misleading bullshiat. He had pre-existing conditions/illnesses.

Besides in college, programming and working on major projects for 3-4 days straight was not uncommon and nobody in any of my classes died...

Yes.  You work very hard.  Congratulations.
Being required to work 100+ hours would exacerbate his condition.  He's dead because a company that can turns $2,000,000,000 profit in A QUARTER shiats on their employees, who in turn shiat on their customers.

Oh my god a company made money! They are so evil!

I work for one of the largest banks in the world. I am treated and compensated rather well.

Get a real job and form your own opinion instead of being spoonfed misformed half-baked ideology from the internet.

No wait now that I think about it you're right! I have to get here so early, 8am is so unreasonable. And I'm expected to stay here all day? Outrageous! And the secretaries don't even give me hourly BJs!

Banks truly are evil empires and horrible to work for.


Double post?  Did I push a few buttons?  I didn't say all banks are evil.  If you learned about what Bank of America has done, for example, with their mortgage practices, you'd see that they calculated that f*ing over their customers was worth more than the financial penalties they would incur.  The penalty for doing something illegal was not a deterrent, and they willfully and intentionally ignore laws and harmed the very people they were supposedly in a partnership with.  You'll see that yes, Bank of America is, by definition, an unethical corporation.  That's just one example of the lawsuits they're dealing with right now.  With US Government Attorneys.

Yes, through all of that, and with nondeterrent repercussions, they do manage to turn a multibillion dollar profit each quarter.  Does that make them right by your standard?  Did the board of your big superhero company try to tell you to think unethical practices are OK, too?

Anyways, I have an involuntary US Government legally enforced knowledge base in ethics.  That and my location might hint to you what I do for a living.  What our company's and our industry's practices do for money does not come close to justifying poor employee treatment in any regard.
2013-08-20 03:22:42 PM  
1 vote:
Even though that's not what killed this guy, 14-hour work days and 110-hour work weeks are still absolute bullshiat.

/hire more people, you tightwads
2013-08-20 03:16:41 PM  
1 vote:

durbnpoisn: Tom_Slick: Is this where I explode about companies not paying their interns? I've worked at 4 small companies and 1 large corporation that had interns, the small companies had a soul and paid whatever minimum wage was plus 2 dollars, the large corporation paid nothing, under the guise of "They get to put MCI/WorldCom on their resume."

I agree with this.  But it's like that in many industries.  I'll give you an example...  When they were doing the post production for the PT Star Wars movies, Lucas Film had TONS of lightsaber footage that had to be rotoscoped (that is traced frame by frame and the glowing effect applied).  They hired legions of people to come in there for practically no money at all, and work tedious long hours. When those scenes were done, they simply let them all go.
The obvious upshot to all those people is that they can put Lucas Film on their resume.  I would argue that is a worthwhile tradeoff.


Until they're actually asked about it by a potential employer, and they have to explain that they only worked there a few weeks and apparently weren't good enough to be hired for a permanent position when that was over.  Now the resume looks worse and the applicant's competence is questionable.
2013-08-20 03:13:47 PM  
1 vote:

d23: If we can agree on no other facts on this story, can we just agree that BofA is staffed by assholes?


Oh, alright. I'm in.
2013-08-20 03:12:12 PM  
1 vote:

Rurouni: Nana's Vibrator: Rurouni: More misleading bullshiat. He had pre-existing conditions/illnesses.

Besides in college, programming and working on major projects for 3-4 days straight was not uncommon and nobody in any of my classes died...

Yes.  You work very hard.  Congratulations.
Being required to work 100+ hours would exacerbate his condition.  He's dead because a company that can turns $2,000,000,000 profit in A QUARTER shiats on their employees, who in turn shiat on their customers.

Oh my god a company made money! They are so evil!

I work for one of the largest banks in the world. I am treated and compensated rather well.

Get a real job and form your own opinion instead of being spoonfed misformed half-baked ideology from the internet.


No wait now that I think about it you're right! I have to get here so early, 8am is so unreasonable. And I'm expected to stay here all day? Outrageous! And the secretaries don't even give me hourly BJs!

Banks truly are evil empires and horrible to work for.
2013-08-20 03:07:49 PM  
1 vote:

Nana's Vibrator: Rurouni: More misleading bullshiat. He had pre-existing conditions/illnesses.

Besides in college, programming and working on major projects for 3-4 days straight was not uncommon and nobody in any of my classes died...

Yes.  You work very hard.  Congratulations.
Being required to work 100+ hours would exacerbate his condition.  He's dead because a company that can turns $2,000,000,000 profit in A QUARTER shiats on their employees, who in turn shiat on their customers.


Oh my god a company made money! They are so evil!

I work for one of the largest banks in the world. I am treated and compensated rather well.

Get a real job and form your own opinion instead of being spoonfed misformed half-baked ideology from the internet.
2013-08-20 02:47:10 PM  
1 vote:
100 to 110 hours a week?  Shiat, while underway in the Navy, that's pretty much the norm for divisions that have lost people to transfers or other divisions, or who have highly-technical jobs that are commonly understaffed.  For example, the "Oil King" - the guy who checks the quality of the fuel oil every half-hour before it goes into the boilers - rarely gets sleep for the first week underway, as the ship's motion churns up all the dirt, water and crud in the fuel tanks.  After a week or so, most of the crud has been filtered out.

When I tell people about doing "6 On/6 Off" shifts, they assume I'm on duty for 6 hours, then the next 6 are mine to do whatever I want!  Instead, imagine spending 6 hours in a 120-degree room with 85% humidity, going from one piece of machinery to another collecting temp/pressure data.  At the end of the 6 hours, you then have to spend 5-6 hours performing maintenance on that equipment, and then it's back on watch for another 6.  Finally, you spend 1-2 hours on personal stuff: letters home, studying training manuals so you'll be ready for the next advancement tests, etc.  You might get 4 hours of sleep - as long as you're not on fire watch and there's no fire drill that night.  But then there's a drill every night, because fires on ships suck.  You have to find time to work in meals, going to the crapper, getting a shower, etc.  Some days you're go without food just to be able to sleep more.

When you're at sea, your "week" becomes just 3 days: yesterday, today and tomorrow.  Dates are unimportant, as is the day.  Hopefully nothing goes wrong while you're on duty, but such times are rare.

Still, I'd rather be out at sea than within mortar range of some determined Hadjis!
2013-08-20 02:46:06 PM  
1 vote:
As someone working a mandatory unpaid internship (which has had ZERO influence on obtaining "real" jobs) and working two other jobs so I can supplement the time I "waste" with my internship...

...ah fark now I have epilepsy.
2013-08-20 02:38:14 PM  
1 vote:
Meh.  I'd call that suicide.
2013-08-20 02:36:50 PM  
1 vote:
Total lack of facts. What makes me suspect its truth, however, is the great and silly lengths BofA went to in trying to deny it/distance themselves. Sounded like a bunch of underground fraternity brothers trying to deny hazing after one of their pledges dies of alcohol poisoning and exposure.
2013-08-20 02:33:05 PM  
1 vote:

d23: If we can agree on no other facts on this story, can we just agree that BofA is staffed by assholes?


Yeah, count me in.
2013-08-20 02:30:50 PM  
1 vote:

d23: If we can agree on no other facts on this story, can we just agree that BofA is staffed by assholes?


Well, sure. But you didn't even need this story to agree on that.
2013-08-20 12:53:39 PM  
1 vote:
This is an outrage! BoA worked him to death! He had a seizure because of overwo- wait, he had epilepsy? ... never mind.
 
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