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(The Atlantic Wire)   Man collapses and dies after ______________ for 72 hours straight. A) Farking. B) Playing his favorite MMORPG. C) Working at his job as an unpaid intern for Bank of America   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 104
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2013-08-20 12:49:15 PM
Reports have suggested

Those theories, however, are based on the reports of his peers and fellow interns

That isn't really enough to prove that the job killed him. And, as of now, the official cause of death is unknown and the Metropolitan Police is treating the death as "non-suspicious,"

Reports say that he collapsed in the shower and that he had epilepsy

However, some studies have found that "emotional stressors such as worry, anxiety and anger may cause seizures, especially if combined with fatigue or chronic sleep loss,"

 Though, one anonymous BofA banker suggested no one forced Erhardt to work so hard


Not a single fact or source in the entire article other than some kid died and he was an intern at BoA.
 
2013-08-20 12:53:39 PM
This is an outrage! BoA worked him to death! He had a seizure because of overwo- wait, he had epilepsy? ... never mind.
 
2013-08-20 12:53:53 PM
Is this where I explode about companies not paying their interns? I've worked at 4 small companies and 1 large corporation that had interns, the small companies had a soul and paid whatever minimum wage was plus 2 dollars, the large corporation paid nothing, under the guise of "They get to put MCI/WorldCom on their resume."
 
2013-08-20 01:05:05 PM

Tom_Slick: Is this where I explode about companies not paying their interns? I've worked at 4 small companies and 1 large corporation that had interns, the small companies had a soul and paid whatever minimum wage was plus 2 dollars, the large corporation paid nothing, under the guise of "They get to put MCI/WorldCom on their resume."


I think we should be more incensed that we're selling naming rights for our Mass. Correctional Institutions to private companies.

/wait, what?
 
2013-08-20 01:06:57 PM
If he was an unpaid intern, he probably spent a fair amount of his work time both A) Farking and B) Playing his favorite MMPORG.
 
2013-08-20 01:09:00 PM

Tom_Slick: "They get to put MCI/WorldCom on their resume."


Why not just put "convicted felon" or "child molester" on there instead?
 
2013-08-20 01:12:26 PM

Tom_Slick: Is this where I explode about companies not paying their interns? I've worked at 4 small companies and 1 large corporation that had interns, the small companies had a soul and paid whatever minimum wage was plus 2 dollars, the large corporation paid nothing, under the guise of "They get to put MCI/WorldCom on their resume."


I worked at a major tech company a couple years ago as an intern and was making $24/hr. I would never work there normally (everyone acted like they had giant rods surgically implanted in their asses and stressed over everything because "OMG PINK SLIPS!", but the pay was sweet)

Now I work at the DoD, not as much pay, but great benefits and the only constant stress you get is whether Congress will let you get your work done
 
2013-08-20 01:17:39 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Tom_Slick: "They get to put MCI/WorldCom on their resume."

Why not just put "convicted felon" or "child molester" on there instead?


I leave it off mine, the pay was great, but my god they were stupid.  I worked in a department of 39 people whose job it was to talk to the customers so the engineers didn't have to.  Yeah, my life in the late 90s was very much like office space.
 
2013-08-20 01:31:12 PM
www.powellunlimited.com
 
2013-08-20 01:42:54 PM
I'm having trouble confirming that he was not paid. A link on the page claims "Banking interns at BAML are paid around £45,000 pro rata, or £2,700 a month."

I would be very surprised if he were in fact unpaid. Unpaid internships aren't really a thing amongst the winners in America. Which this guy seems to have used to be. Not really so much anymore, but at the start of the summer, at least.
 
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2013-08-20 01:58:46 PM

Theaetetus: This is an outrage! BoA worked him to death! He had a seizure because of overwo- wait, he had epilepsy? ... never mind.


That British epilepsy is terminal.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-20 02:26:48 PM
If we can agree on no other facts on this story, can we just agree that BofA is staffed by assholes?
 
2013-08-20 02:29:25 PM

Tom_Slick: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Tom_Slick: "They get to put MCI/WorldCom on their resume."

Why not just put "convicted felon" or "child molester" on there instead?

I leave it off mine, the pay was great, but my god they were stupid.  I worked in a department of 39 people whose job it was to talk to the customers so the engineers didn't have to.  Yeah, my life in the late 90s was very much like office space.



How did you "Jump to Conclusions" mat work out? Lemon? Big seller?
 
2013-08-20 02:30:50 PM

d23: If we can agree on no other facts on this story, can we just agree that BofA is staffed by assholes?


Well, sure. But you didn't even need this story to agree on that.
 
2013-08-20 02:31:12 PM
Pansy Brit dies from overwork. So what?  You'll not find me grieving for this latest loser in the game of life.  Why in my day, I used to work 26 hour days, walking to and from work uphill both ways, and they made me pay to work there.
 
2013-08-20 02:31:50 PM

Tom_Slick: Is this where I explode about companies not paying their interns? I've worked at 4 small companies and 1 large corporation that had interns, the small companies had a soul and paid whatever minimum wage was plus 2 dollars, the large corporation paid nothing, under the guise of "They get to put MCI/WorldCom on their resume."


I think this is the thread where you post a motivational speech and gather the masses to hold a bake sale for such impoverished corporations as Banc of America so they can afford to provide a minimum wage for their interns.
 
2013-08-20 02:33:05 PM

d23: If we can agree on no other facts on this story, can we just agree that BofA is staffed by assholes?


Yeah, count me in.
 
2013-08-20 02:34:46 PM
A German exchange student for the University of Michigan working for Bank of America in London.

Trying to follow all that would give anybody a seizure.
 
2013-08-20 02:36:50 PM
Total lack of facts. What makes me suspect its truth, however, is the great and silly lengths BofA went to in trying to deny it/distance themselves. Sounded like a bunch of underground fraternity brothers trying to deny hazing after one of their pledges dies of alcohol poisoning and exposure.
 
2013-08-20 02:37:22 PM

Prey4reign: Pansy Brit dies from overwork. So what?  You'll not find me grieving for this latest loser in the game of life.  Why in my day, I used to work 26 hour days, walking to and from work uphill both ways, and they made me pay to work there.


To be fair, the meth hadn't been stomped on nearly as much back in the day.
 
2013-08-20 02:37:49 PM

Prey4reign: Pansy Brit dies from overwork. So what?  You'll not find me grieving for this latest loser in the game of life.  Why in my day, I used to work 26 hour days, walking to and from work uphill both ways, and they made me pay to work there.


Which one is you?
s.mcstatic.com
 
2013-08-20 02:38:04 PM
Thank God he wasn't an employee. Company insurance might have had to pay out, and there could have been NLRB issues.
 
2013-08-20 02:38:05 PM
I was definitely hoping it was A.
 
2013-08-20 02:38:14 PM
Meh.  I'd call that suicide.
 
2013-08-20 02:38:46 PM
BofA can't afford to pay their interns, maybe they need another tax break.
 
2013-08-20 02:40:04 PM
Unpaid Internship Great Experience for Local Company

Unpaid internships have no effect on your ability to get a job out of college when compared with not working.  Paid internships do[1].
 
2013-08-20 02:41:48 PM

Tom_Slick: Is this where I explode about companies not paying their interns? I've worked at 4 small companies and 1 large corporation that had interns, the small companies had a soul and paid whatever minimum wage was plus 2 dollars, the large corporation paid nothing, under the guise of "They get to put MCI/WorldCom on their resume."


I can't speak for BOA specifically but all the large banks pay their interns a ton of money to work during the summer. This guy was probably a finance major at school. My friends working at places like Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, Lehman (before it went under), et al all made 10K or more when they interned. I can't imagine it is any different at BOA.
 
2013-08-20 02:41:52 PM
What, in banking, is there that requires non-stop, nose to the grindstone type of work?

/DAMN IT, where was I, I lost track, was I at 4.234367 billion or... I HAVE TO START OVER, GAH!
 
2013-08-20 02:42:15 PM
Bet you they will find adderall in his system.
 
2013-08-20 02:42:25 PM
I fixed the article

>Erhardt's friends claimed required eight ball all-nighters in two weeks, exhausted him to death.
 
2013-08-20 02:42:25 PM

brimed03: Total lack of facts. What makes me suspect its truth, however, is the great and silly lengths BofA went to in trying to deny it/distance themselves. Sounded like a bunch of underground fraternity brothers trying to deny hazing after one of their pledges dies of alcohol poisoning and exposure.


Anything attached to BoA is forbidden from sneezing in public without a scum sucking...I mean...without a legal representative's review.  Expensive.  Think about that next time you're pondering a switch to a bank where the straight interest on a simple savings account is traditionally less than half of their competitors' rates.
 
2013-08-20 02:46:06 PM
As someone working a mandatory unpaid internship (which has had ZERO influence on obtaining "real" jobs) and working two other jobs so I can supplement the time I "waste" with my internship...

...ah fark now I have epilepsy.
 
2013-08-20 02:47:10 PM
100 to 110 hours a week?  Shiat, while underway in the Navy, that's pretty much the norm for divisions that have lost people to transfers or other divisions, or who have highly-technical jobs that are commonly understaffed.  For example, the "Oil King" - the guy who checks the quality of the fuel oil every half-hour before it goes into the boilers - rarely gets sleep for the first week underway, as the ship's motion churns up all the dirt, water and crud in the fuel tanks.  After a week or so, most of the crud has been filtered out.

When I tell people about doing "6 On/6 Off" shifts, they assume I'm on duty for 6 hours, then the next 6 are mine to do whatever I want!  Instead, imagine spending 6 hours in a 120-degree room with 85% humidity, going from one piece of machinery to another collecting temp/pressure data.  At the end of the 6 hours, you then have to spend 5-6 hours performing maintenance on that equipment, and then it's back on watch for another 6.  Finally, you spend 1-2 hours on personal stuff: letters home, studying training manuals so you'll be ready for the next advancement tests, etc.  You might get 4 hours of sleep - as long as you're not on fire watch and there's no fire drill that night.  But then there's a drill every night, because fires on ships suck.  You have to find time to work in meals, going to the crapper, getting a shower, etc.  Some days you're go without food just to be able to sleep more.

When you're at sea, your "week" becomes just 3 days: yesterday, today and tomorrow.  Dates are unimportant, as is the day.  Hopefully nothing goes wrong while you're on duty, but such times are rare.

Still, I'd rather be out at sea than within mortar range of some determined Hadjis!
 
2013-08-20 02:48:39 PM
More misleading bullshiat. He had pre-existing conditions/illnesses.

Besides in college, programming and working on major projects for 3-4 days straight was not uncommon and nobody in any of my classes died...
 
2013-08-20 02:54:33 PM
He had epilepsy and died at home during a seizure while working art an investment banking internship.  Let this be a lesson to everyone, if your boss gives you £1000 for blow you bring him back £1000 worth of blow and you don't take half for later and cut the rest with Tide.  I'm a gonna let him finish but I'm a gonna still wanna see that tox screen.
 
2013-08-20 02:54:42 PM
Kid obviously wasn't BoA material.
 
2013-08-20 02:55:14 PM
Meh, I stayed up longer than that when I was in the Army
 
2013-08-20 02:56:55 PM

Rurouni: More misleading bullshiat. He had pre-existing conditions/illnesses.

Besides in college, programming and working on major projects for 3-4 days straight was not uncommon and nobody in any of my classes died...


Yes.  You work very hard.  Congratulations.
Being required to work 100+ hours would exacerbate his condition.  He's dead because a company that can turns $2,000,000,000 profit in A QUARTER shiats on their employees, who in turn shiat on their customers.
 
2013-08-20 02:59:14 PM

indy_kid: 100 to 110 hours a week?  Shiat, while underway in the Navy, that's pretty much the norm for divisions that have lost people to transfers or other divisions, or who have highly-technical jobs that are commonly understaffed.  For example, the "Oil King" - the guy who checks the quality of the fuel oil every half-hour before it goes into the boilers - rarely gets sleep for the first week underway, as the ship's motion churns up all the dirt, water and crud in the fuel tanks.  After a week or so, most of the crud has been filtered out.

When I tell people about doing "6 On/6 Off" shifts, they assume I'm on duty for 6 hours, then the next 6 are mine to do whatever I want!  Instead, imagine spending 6 hours in a 120-degree room with 85% humidity, going from one piece of machinery to another collecting temp/pressure data.  At the end of the 6 hours, you then have to spend 5-6 hours performing maintenance on that equipment, and then it's back on watch for another 6.  Finally, you spend 1-2 hours on personal stuff: letters home, studying training manuals so you'll be ready for the next advancement tests, etc.  You might get 4 hours of sleep - as long as you're not on fire watch and there's no fire drill that night.  But then there's a drill every night, because fires on ships suck.  You have to find time to work in meals, going to the crapper, getting a shower, etc.  Some days you're go without food just to be able to sleep more.

When you're at sea, your "week" becomes just 3 days: yesterday, today and tomorrow.  Dates are unimportant, as is the day.  Hopefully nothing goes wrong while you're on duty, but such times are rare.

Still, I'd rather be out at sea than within mortar range of some determined Hadjis!


It sounds like you're saying that the Village People may not have been completely forthright in their portrayal of Navy life.

/Not surprising...journalism is dead.
 
2013-08-20 02:59:54 PM

d23: If we can agree on no other facts on this story, can we just agree that BofA is staffed by assholes?


You have my Axe
 
2013-08-20 03:00:21 PM
Did he get the job?
 
2013-08-20 03:02:34 PM

Tom_Slick: Is this where I explode about companies not paying their interns? I've worked at 4 small companies and 1 large corporation that had interns, the small companies had a soul and paid whatever minimum wage was plus 2 dollars, the large corporation paid nothing, under the guise of "They get to put MCI/WorldCom on their resume."


I agree with this.  But it's like that in many industries.  I'll give you an example...  When they were doing the post production for the PT Star Wars movies, Lucas Film had TONS of lightsaber footage that had to be rotoscoped (that is traced frame by frame and the glowing effect applied).  They hired legions of people to come in there for practically no money at all, and work tedious long hours. When those scenes were done, they simply let them all go.
The obvious upshot to all those people is that they can put Lucas Film on their resume.  I would argue that is a worthwhile tradeoff.
 
2013-08-20 03:07:49 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Rurouni: More misleading bullshiat. He had pre-existing conditions/illnesses.

Besides in college, programming and working on major projects for 3-4 days straight was not uncommon and nobody in any of my classes died...

Yes.  You work very hard.  Congratulations.
Being required to work 100+ hours would exacerbate his condition.  He's dead because a company that can turns $2,000,000,000 profit in A QUARTER shiats on their employees, who in turn shiat on their customers.


Oh my god a company made money! They are so evil!

I work for one of the largest banks in the world. I am treated and compensated rather well.

Get a real job and form your own opinion instead of being spoonfed misformed half-baked ideology from the internet.
 
2013-08-20 03:10:59 PM

indy_kid: 100 to 110 hours a week?  Shiat, while underway in the Navy, that's pretty much the norm for divisions that have lost people to transfers or other divisions, or who have highly-technical jobs that are commonly understaffed.  For example, the "Oil King" - the guy who checks the quality of the fuel oil every half-hour before it goes into the boilers - rarely gets sleep for the first week underway, as the ship's motion churns up all the dirt, water and crud in the fuel tanks.  After a week or so, most of the crud has been filtered out.

When I tell people about doing "6 On/6 Off" shifts, they assume I'm on duty for 6 hours, then the next 6 are mine to do whatever I want!  Instead, imagine spending 6 hours in a 120-degree room with 85% humidity, going from one piece of machinery to another collecting temp/pressure data.  At the end of the 6 hours, you then have to spend 5-6 hours performing maintenance on that equipment, and then it's back on watch for another 6.  Finally, you spend 1-2 hours on personal stuff: letters home, studying training manuals so you'll be ready for the next advancement tests, etc.  You might get 4 hours of sleep - as long as you're not on fire watch and there's no fire drill that night.  But then there's a drill every night, because fires on ships suck.  You have to find time to work in meals, going to the crapper, getting a shower, etc.  Some days you're go without food just to be able to sleep more.

When you're at sea, your "week" becomes just 3 days: yesterday, today and tomorrow.  Dates are unimportant, as is the day.  Hopefully nothing goes wrong while you're on duty, but such times are rare.

Still, I'd rather be out at sea than within mortar range of some determined Hadjis!


Yes, and the military can make enlistees go to war and kill people and maybe even die. That doesn't mean that's the norm or right in the civilian world.
 
2013-08-20 03:12:12 PM

Rurouni: Nana's Vibrator: Rurouni: More misleading bullshiat. He had pre-existing conditions/illnesses.

Besides in college, programming and working on major projects for 3-4 days straight was not uncommon and nobody in any of my classes died...

Yes.  You work very hard.  Congratulations.
Being required to work 100+ hours would exacerbate his condition.  He's dead because a company that can turns $2,000,000,000 profit in A QUARTER shiats on their employees, who in turn shiat on their customers.

Oh my god a company made money! They are so evil!

I work for one of the largest banks in the world. I am treated and compensated rather well.

Get a real job and form your own opinion instead of being spoonfed misformed half-baked ideology from the internet.


No wait now that I think about it you're right! I have to get here so early, 8am is so unreasonable. And I'm expected to stay here all day? Outrageous! And the secretaries don't even give me hourly BJs!

Banks truly are evil empires and horrible to work for.
 
2013-08-20 03:13:47 PM

d23: If we can agree on no other facts on this story, can we just agree that BofA is staffed by assholes?


Oh, alright. I'm in.
 
2013-08-20 03:16:41 PM

durbnpoisn: Tom_Slick: Is this where I explode about companies not paying their interns? I've worked at 4 small companies and 1 large corporation that had interns, the small companies had a soul and paid whatever minimum wage was plus 2 dollars, the large corporation paid nothing, under the guise of "They get to put MCI/WorldCom on their resume."

I agree with this.  But it's like that in many industries.  I'll give you an example...  When they were doing the post production for the PT Star Wars movies, Lucas Film had TONS of lightsaber footage that had to be rotoscoped (that is traced frame by frame and the glowing effect applied).  They hired legions of people to come in there for practically no money at all, and work tedious long hours. When those scenes were done, they simply let them all go.
The obvious upshot to all those people is that they can put Lucas Film on their resume.  I would argue that is a worthwhile tradeoff.


Until they're actually asked about it by a potential employer, and they have to explain that they only worked there a few weeks and apparently weren't good enough to be hired for a permanent position when that was over.  Now the resume looks worse and the applicant's competence is questionable.
 
2013-08-20 03:22:42 PM
Even though that's not what killed this guy, 14-hour work days and 110-hour work weeks are still absolute bullshiat.

/hire more people, you tightwads
 
2013-08-20 03:25:55 PM
I once worked a 105 hour week, including a 19 hour day. The weeks surrounding that weren't as bad, but still in the 75+ range. And I was doing it in the heat of summer, cleaning portable toilets.
 
2013-08-20 03:26:51 PM
Should of got a real job instead of trying to play CEO like daddy
 
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