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d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-20 02:02:08 PM

ringersol: I'm not sure if it makes me a pessimist to think someone could be so awful as to write such a letter as a scam, or an optimist to think that's more likely than someone else in the neighborhood being such a complete douche as to write that letter to the mother of an autistic child.

But it being a fake letter feels more likely than not.


OK, I live in Indiana and this story is Ontario, but I've seen plenty of dimwits here write similar letters.

Mostly it's the extra "!!!!!!" that gives it away.  That's how a barely educated person creates emphasis.
 
2013-08-20 02:02:13 PM

Keeve: DubtodaIll: This doesn't come close to the a-hole threshold.  Stress is a biatch and makes you do biatchy things.  Put the kid in a soundproof kid-sized hamster ball and be done with it.

What an a$$hole thing to say. As a parent of two children I will have you know that after reading "Put the kid in a soundproof kid-sized hamster ball", I have spent the last 2 hours scouring the internet in search of soundproof kid-sized hamster balls. They don't make them. I couldn't even find anywhere to have one custom made. I found something very similar that is inflatable, but does not offer soundproofing. Not good enough. Thanks for getting my hopes up jerk!


Am I the only one who thinks we need to get a Kickstarter going?
 
2013-08-20 02:03:44 PM
I am outraged at your child's behavior, and by extension, yours!

I am outraged at the way in which you express your outrage!

The internet is amused!
 
2013-08-20 02:03:57 PM
The writing seems to be about middle-school level.   It's either a neighbor kid, or an illiterate inbred, (do they have those in Canada?).

On the other hand:

My oldest son was diagnosed as being a high-functioning autistic, so I figured that it wouldn't hurt to go to autism support groups.  I wanted to know how best to handle the different situations that come from having an autistic child.  One of the ladies in the support group had a low-functioning autistic child, and she never told that child "no" about anything.  When he knocked a motorcycle over, and scratched it up, she screamed at the owner of the bike that he wouldn't be such a prick about it if her kid were normal.  Other parents in the support group didn't want anything to do with her, because while we were there to exchange information, she was the "It's all about ME!" attention whore.  Every time there is a local news story involving autistics, this woman still has to have her time in front of the camera, even if it's not directly related to her kid.

I honestly think if she had thought of it, she'd have written herself a letter like that, so she could cry and poor-mouth on television.

Haven't spoken to that nutcase for 10-15 years... THANK GOD!
 
2013-08-20 02:06:24 PM

Sneakytoes: thismomentinblackhistory: What kind of sounds is he possibly making?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw67GIbb6ms


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cVlTeIATBs
 
2013-08-20 02:06:28 PM
thismomentinblackhistory: What kind of sounds is he possibly making?

He sings "Country" songs.
 
2013-08-20 02:07:47 PM
If I get charged if I leave a dog outside that barks all the time then they should be charged in the same way.
 
2013-08-20 02:08:10 PM
Given what I know about humans, it is perfectly plausible a neighbor sent the letter. It is equally plausible the family manufactured the letter themselves. Why would they make such a big deal about this? They clearly want the attention.
 
2013-08-20 02:08:20 PM
I can certainly see this coward suing for mental anguish in the very near future.

But if the kid is really that loud then perhaps the family can look into getting some type of device that muffles the sound, like a cool Darth Vader mask, or maybe some superhero?
 
2013-08-20 02:08:21 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: What kind of sounds is he possibly making?


I am not even remotely defending the woman who sent this note, but I know what kinds of noises he makes.  On our last vacation, there was an autistic kid there.  One afternoon of lounging by the pool was ruined.  His dad was in the pool with him, and so they invented some kind of game.  It involved the kid repeating, "Barracuda...barracuda...barracuda..." and then he screamed as loud as he possibly could.  Five times.  Ten times.  A hundred times.  Two hundred times.  It went on for hour after hour.  It was clear that this not an obnoxious brat, this kid was autistic.  No ordinary kid would have done something that many times.  He might have found other ways to be irritating, but he would have grown bored with just one thing.  The kid never spoke another word that I was aware of, either...just "barracuda."

On the same vacation, we went on a whale-watching trip, and there was a young autistic man with is family.  He whistled.  I mean, he whistled incredibly loudly.  The same few notes.  Again and again and again, for hours.  Even at a distance of 30 feet, it made you wince.  Once we were out on the water, we could maintain enough distance, and there was also a fair amount of ambient noise, so that it wasn't as noticeable.  But you could still hear him.
 I also have a profoundly autistic niece.  She can be perfectly peaceful for a long time, and then the slightest thing will set her off, and she emits this piercing howl that sounds like something out of a horror movie.  And that might last a few seconds, or it might last an hour.  And here's the sad part--that's the least of her problems.  (As if that weren't enough, she was at the school in Sandy Hook when the shooting happened.  In fact, she was grabbed out of the hallway by a teacher, or she probably would have been killed.  The killer got to the room next to the one she was in.)


To repeat, I'm not defending this woman (she would have made a great Nazi), but I know how painful it can be to spend time around an autistic person who makes repetitive, loud noises for several consecutive hours.  It's unnerving.

 Autism sucks.
 
2013-08-20 02:08:26 PM

brantgoose: There is no a-hole threshold.

There's only the singularity. Haven't you people read any Stephen Hawkins on the theory of a-holes? The only question is whether the singularity is a mathematical point or a sort of curve like the tip of a crayon or a dull pencil.


For whatever reason I read that as 'dull penis'. It still worked until I tried to figure out what a non-dull penis would look like and then I started to get sick.
 
2013-08-20 02:10:40 PM

Satan's Bunny Slippers: Hankie Fest: I'm not arguing the douchery of the letter.
But why is being offended the END OF THE FARKING WORLD?  So what?

You can be offended all you want.

Writing a poorly constructed letter biatching about it and anonymously leaving it for someone who does not/is not doing what YOU WANT THEM TO DO is what is being brought up here.

That's being a douchebag of the highest degree, and is wholly unnecessary. Especially when what you are biatching about is not anyone's fault.


If you're letting your child scream so much, and so loudly, that it annoys the neighbors, then IT IS YOUR FAULT. Any disabilities the child may have are irrelevant.
 
2013-08-20 02:10:42 PM

bluefoxicy: Nobody wants to be around your retard babies.


"Nobody" wants to be around lots of types of people - gays, Republicans, busybodies, salsa-music-lovers, drunk-with-power HOA members, old/bad drivers, politicians, negroes, McMansion-owners, communists, college students, hipsters, creationists, Democrats, crackers, the poor, priests, plumbers, alcoholics, BASE jumpers...

But if living in the same area/neighborhood/town/zip code as a member of one group you hate so offends you, perhaps consider what home values and schools are like in areas more suitable to your liking. Hating the retardeds is fine (but not really - have some damned compassion, you assdouche), just keep it to yourself and don't expect those of us born with the barest shred of humanity to accommodate your sociopathy.
 
2013-08-20 02:10:43 PM

EmperorSled: brantgoose: There is no a-hole threshold.

There's only the singularity. Haven't you people read any Stephen Hawkins on the theory of a-holes? The only question is whether the singularity is a mathematical point or a sort of curve like the tip of a crayon or a dull pencil.

For whatever reason I read that as 'dull penis'. It still worked until I tried to figure out what a non-dull penis would look like and then I started to get sick.


I........ok.
 
2013-08-20 02:11:13 PM

metallion: The writing seems to be about middle-school level.   It's either a neighbor kid, or an illiterate inbred, (do they have those in Canada?).


This is why the outrage needs to be tempered.  It's always a middle school kid.  Swastikas in the neighborhood?  Gravestones knocked over?  Hateful writings?

Yes, it's bad.  But when you consider the likely source, you shrug it off.
/the conspiracy theory about TV News always interviewing the stupidest f*ck in the neighborhood ties in here.  Yeah something bad happened.  Because there's dipshiats in on this street.
 
2013-08-20 02:11:44 PM

Slaves2Darkness: Meh, pink paper, badly written, this looks fake. I'm betting the mother sent it to herself to get attention and/or donations.


That was my second thought, as my cynical side came around. I'm not even going to get lathered up about this one, since I've been burned too many times in the past about stupid stuff that got online.
 
2013-08-20 02:11:48 PM
One other thing, some years ago we lived in a neighborhood where the 16 year old two doors down was an out-of-control monster.  He wasn't autistic, just an asshole.  Screaming obscenities and shouting threats.  Constantly in trouble with the police.  The kind of kid you know is going to end up prison for 30 years.  The kind of kid you were afraid to have living that close.  Will he break in with a gun?  Will he set our house on fire?  Or was smashing the rear window of my car enough for him?

I wouldn't enjoy living near a loud autistic kid but I'd take that over the future death row inmate.
 
2013-08-20 02:12:23 PM

d23: This story is several days old.  The latest I read on it was that the community is trying to out this cretin and that when they find out who sent the letter there will be intimidation charges pressed.

Remember, this is Canada and not the U.S.


So the mother apologized for making the letter writer go to all that trouble, eh?
 
2013-08-20 02:13:36 PM

CruJones: Need more details.  Did mom  just send the kid outside every day unmonitored?  Of course letter-writer is a beyotch, however there could be a few valid points buried deep in the derp.


This. If it was my neighbor and I couldn't enjoy my home because of her damaged spawn, I'd be pissed too.
 
2013-08-20 02:15:23 PM

Warlordtrooper: I hope somebody outs this idiot.


I hope she didn't write it herself.
 
2013-08-20 02:15:37 PM

Kibbler: thismomentinblackhistory: What kind of sounds is he possibly making?

I am not even remotely defending the woman who sent this note, but I know what kinds of noises he makes.  On our last vacation, there was an autistic kid there.  One afternoon of lounging by the pool was ruined.  His dad was in the pool with him, and so they invented some kind of game.  It involved the kid repeating, "Barracuda...barracuda...barracuda..." and then he screamed as loud as he possibly could.  Five times.  Ten times.  A hundred times.  Two hundred times.  It went on for hour after hour.  It was clear that this not an obnoxious brat, this kid was autistic.  No ordinary kid would have done something that many times.  He might have found other ways to be irritating, but he would have grown bored with just one thing.  The kid never spoke another word that I was aware of, either...just "barracuda."

On the same vacation, we went on a whale-watching trip, and there was a young autistic man with is family.  He whistled.  I mean, he whistled incredibly loudly.  The same few notes.  Again and again and again, for hours.  Even at a distance of 30 feet, it made you wince.  Once we were out on the water, we could maintain enough distance, and there was also a fair amount of ambient noise, so that it wasn't as noticeable.  But you could still hear him.
 I also have a profoundly autistic niece.  She can be perfectly peaceful for a long time, and then the slightest thing will set her off, and she emits this piercing howl that sounds like something out of a horror movie.  And that might last a few seconds, or it might last an hour.  And here's the sad part--that's the least of her problems.  (As if that weren't enough, she was at the school in Sandy Hook when the shooting happened.  In fact, she was grabbed out of the hallway by a teacher, or she probably would have been killed.  The killer got to the room next to the one she was in.)


To repeat, I'm not defending this woman (she would have made a great Nazi), but I know how painful it can be to spend time around an autistic person who makes repetitive, loud noises for several consecutive hours.  It's unnerving.

 Autism sucks.


Indeed.

Does anyone know if it is technically possible to physically altar someone's vocal chords in order to lower the maximum decibel they can achieve with their voice? Seems that would be a fantastic solution to this problem.
 
2013-08-20 02:15:50 PM

Usurper4: Keeve: DubtodaIll: This doesn't come close to the a-hole threshold.  Stress is a biatch and makes you do biatchy things.  Put the kid in a soundproof kid-sized hamster ball and be done with it.

What an a$$hole thing to say. As a parent of two children I will have you know that after reading "Put the kid in a soundproof kid-sized hamster ball", I have spent the last 2 hours scouring the internet in search of soundproof kid-sized hamster balls. They don't make them. I couldn't even find anywhere to have one custom made. I found something very similar that is inflatable, but does not offer soundproofing. Not good enough. Thanks for getting my hopes up jerk!

Am I the only one who thinks we need to get a Kickstarter going?


The big hurdle is that everyone keeps getting all pissy if you don't put air-holes in it for ventilation. Kind of defeats the purpose of sound-proofing.
 
2013-08-20 02:17:37 PM

Hankie Fest: But why is being offended the END OF THE FARKING WORLD?  So what?


OBLIG:

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2013-08-20 02:18:02 PM

Hankie Fest: I'm not arguing the douchery of the letter.
But why is being offended the END OF THE FARKING WORLD?  So what?


I would chalk it up to 'ahole being an ahole' if not for the assertion that the child should be killed and everyone would be better off if that happened there at the end.

That little add on just crossed the line from douchebaggery to criminality.

so that is my basis for the OUTRAGE
 
2013-08-20 02:18:20 PM

neversubmit: TOSViolation: I didn't see a threat in the letter.

That's why you should be euthanized.

The threat is implied i.e. I don't agree with you so you should be killed. Get it now?


No, but you've just shown yourself to be an idiot.

You are just too pussified and afraid of the world to think logically. When a person says that something should happen, the ONLY thing they are implying is that they would be pleased if that thing happened. That is it. Nothing else is implied.

The author of the letter may be an asshole, but she definitely did not threaten to kill anyone.
 
2013-08-20 02:19:41 PM

CruJones: What I would have done:  Received letter, gotten upset, thrown letter away.  Hugged child.  Then make sure that my child is behaving acceptably, then go on with my life.  No calling the news, or the cops.


Amen.
 
2013-08-20 02:20:36 PM

TOSViolation: neversubmit: TOSViolation: I didn't see a threat in the letter.

That's why you should be euthanized.

The threat is implied i.e. I don't agree with you so you should be killed. Get it now?

No, but you've just shown yourself to be an idiot.

You are just too pussified and afraid of the world to think logically. When a person says that something should happen, the ONLY thing they are implying is that they would be pleased if that thing happened. That is it. Nothing else is implied.

The author of the letter may be an asshole, but she definitely did not threaten to kill anyone.


If it were not delivered anonymously...under a door...you might be right.  But taking into account the totality of the situation, you have harassment charges and more than enough for an order of protection.

And that is good.
 
2013-08-20 02:21:11 PM

Chach: Should be interesting seeing the Farkers who are head over heels in love with abortion try to keep a straight face while talking about how this imperfect human being is entitled to his dignity.


2/10 because I bit.

/ Too many correctly spelled words
// Offset by lack of punctuation.
 
2013-08-20 02:21:56 PM
i have left anonymous letters for neighbors whose dogs bark constantly.  some barking i can deal with, but nonstop barking for hours long episodes really grinds my gears.

i usually try to knock on the door and ask them to do something about it.  but, often, no one is home, they just put the dog outside and left it.   so i leave an anonymous note.

but, generally it says, sorry to bring this up, but there's a lot of noise coming from your place between the hours of X and Y, and I've noticed this for Z days/weeks/months.  I normally wouldn't say anything but it's upsetting our baby who can't sleep over the noise.

/ i always blame an infant.  the real cause of the discord is my wife who hates noise.
 
2013-08-20 02:21:58 PM

bluefoxicy: TOSViolation: I read the letter, and I find it pretty ridiculous. The only thing I'm wondering is, if this had happened in the U.S.A., what the actual crime would be? It says the police are investigating the threat. What threat?

In canada, anything that expresses an opinion about how you don't like some class of people in general is restricted hate speech and liable for criminal damages.

If you say negros are inclined to criminal intent and living near them is just begging to get robbed or have drug dealers selling meth to your children, you'll be hauled into court for hate speech and put in jail.


Yeah. I'm just wondering how this would play out here. I'd hope the police would just investigate, then advise the lady to take out a no contact order against the author.
 
2013-08-20 02:22:17 PM
If the kid is wailing in the yard for hours I would hurt the mom also.
Shut the kid up nobody wants to hear that.
 
2013-08-20 02:22:29 PM

TOSViolation: CruJones: What I would have done:  Received letter, gotten upset, thrown letter away.  Hugged child.  Then make sure that my child is behaving acceptably, then go on with my life.  No calling the news, or the cops.

Amen.


So someone anonymously puts a note under your door and says your child being dead would make everyone better off would raise no concern in you at all?

You have no children, obviously.

Run that course of action by your wife/the mother of the child, and see how far it goes.
 
2013-08-20 02:23:54 PM
I see two possibilities:
1) As others have said, she wrote it herself to AW.
2) She is a terrible parent who has no respect for her neighbors.

Either way, fark her.
 
2013-08-20 02:24:04 PM
Don't modern printers leave self identifying marks just for this kind of thing?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-20 02:25:23 PM

TOSViolation: Yeah. I'm just wondering how this would play out here. I'd hope the police would just investigate, then advise the lady to take out a no contact order against the author.


They'd find the autistic child causing the problem and tase him/her.
 
2013-08-20 02:25:41 PM

Chach: Should be interesting seeing the Farkers who are head over heels in love with abortion try to keep a straight face while talking about how this imperfect human being is entitled to his dignity.


o_O

Fark it. I'm going back to the Ke$ha thread.
 
2013-08-20 02:27:21 PM

asmodeus224: TOSViolation: neversubmit: TOSViolation: I didn't see a threat in the letter.

That's why you should be euthanized.

The threat is implied i.e. I don't agree with you so you should be killed. Get it now?

No, but you've just shown yourself to be an idiot.

You are just too pussified and afraid of the world to think logically. When a person says that something should happen, the ONLY thing they are implying is that they would be pleased if that thing happened. That is it. Nothing else is implied.

The author of the letter may be an asshole, but she definitely did not threaten to kill anyone.

If it were not delivered anonymously...under a door...you might be right.  But taking into account the totality of the situation, you have harassment charges and more than enough for an order of protection.

And that is good.


Once is not harassment. An ongoing campaign of intimidation or more explicit threat would be different.

I do think the author should be outed for the appropriate public shaming.
 
2013-08-20 02:27:27 PM

Mikey1969: HairyTwatter: This has been showing up in my facebook "news feed" for the last couple of days
oldnewsissoexciting.jpg
/several friends with autistic children

FTFA:
The anonymous note was sent, on Friday.

Not really "old". I know you thought you were being clever with the post there, but it's not really "old" news, now is it?


thatsthejoke.jpg
 
2013-08-20 02:28:22 PM

Dr Dreidel: "Nobody" wants to be around lots of types of people - gays, Republicans, busybodies, salsa-music-lovers, drunk-with-power HOA members, old/bad drivers, politicians, negroes, McMansion-owners, communists, college students, hipsters, creationists, Democrats, crackers, the poor, priests, plumbers, alcoholics, BASE jumpers...


People enjoy base jumping.  They get together, form groups, move off by themselves to go out jumping, collect equipment.  Sometimes they talk about base jumping, sometimes a little much.  So do people with sports cars, computer geeks, and video gamers.

Poor people generally crowd together in poor neighborhoods.  I've seen upper-middle-class neighborhoods; they would not be able to tolerate one of these neighbors.  They talk to anyone, they're friendly--really friendly, not fake-friendly--and they've got short fuses so they get mad and shout and throw punches sometimes.  They're loud at night, sometimes.  It's just how poor people are.  They get along.

Democrats, Republicans, and the Autistic aren't like that.  They just scream a lot in everyone's face.  They don't seem to know what's going on around them, and just continue to run around annoying everyone.  They have no impulse control.  They think they deserve everything.  In the case of democrats and republicans, they get together in groups like other types; but then they're just worse, because they get together in groups to do the one thing their malfunctioning brains are capable of:  planning new ways to irritate the shiat out of everyone else.

Don't try to false-equivalate "People whose social or economic situation differs from mine" with "people who are functionally retarded and miserable to deal with in general unless you're also functionally retarded".  It doesn't work.

Let's drive this home:  Gay people won't just walk up to you and pull their dick out.  Autistic people essentially do just that, in every possible way.  Some of them even do exactly that--in some cases, an inability to express sexual desires or understand common etiquette leads to either yanking their dicks out to show someone they're attracted to or attempt to mate, or pull it out to masturbate, or just to take a piss.  I've worked in retail and had days where mid-20s autistics would piss or shiat in the aisles while shopping with their handlers, so that's actually a real thing.  "UH OHHHH GOTTA TAKE A DOOKIE!!! *shiats right here*"

So nobody likes gay people.  That's because they're gay and people think it's weird.  If they're gay and they're constantly being assholes and acting gay around you and grabbing you and touching you and flirting with you when they've been told to stop, the problem is they're assholes.  There are not-gay assholes too, and gay not-assholes who are gay but can keep it in check.  Straight people are just as bad too--guys around here treat women like shiat universally; I saw one beating his girlfriend in the street and then laugh about it while I was doing yardwork, I offered to let her borrow my shovel... he wasn't amused, she looked like she was seriously considering it.  I should've hit him.  I'll do that next time.  I didn't assess the situation as high threat level and I usually judge low threat as too risky to intervene (makes the situation worse; it's better if you can cool it down than to just escalate it).  Sweet retribution was probably the correct answer, obviated by that it's embarrassing to look back and admit I didn't just flatten this guy's face with the spade.
 
2013-08-20 02:29:10 PM

asmodeus224: TOSViolation: CruJones: What I would have done:  Received letter, gotten upset, thrown letter away.  Hugged child.  Then make sure that my child is behaving acceptably, then go on with my life.  No calling the news, or the cops.

Amen.

So someone anonymously puts a note under your door and says your child being dead would make everyone better off would raise no concern in you at all?

You have no children, obviously.

Run that course of action by your wife/the mother of the child, and see how far it goes.


Women are irrational beings who should not be consulted on such matters. They do irrational things like writing the letter from the article.
 
2013-08-20 02:30:16 PM

TOSViolation: neversubmit: TOSViolation: I didn't see a threat in the letter.

That's why you should be euthanized.

The threat is implied i.e. I don't agree with you so you should be killed. Get it now?

No, but you've just shown yourself to be an idiot.

You are just too pussified and afraid of the world to think logically. When a person says that something should happen, the ONLY thing they are implying is that they would be pleased if that thing happened. That is it. Nothing else is implied.

The author of the letter may be an asshole, but she definitely did not threaten to kill anyone.


Self pwnage is best pwnage.
 
2013-08-20 02:30:39 PM

bingethinker: Satan's Bunny Slippers: Hankie Fest: I'm not arguing the douchery of the letter.
But why is being offended the END OF THE FARKING WORLD?  So what?

You can be offended all you want.

Writing a poorly constructed letter biatching about it and anonymously leaving it for someone who does not/is not doing what YOU WANT THEM TO DO is what is being brought up here.

That's being a douchebag of the highest degree, and is wholly unnecessary. Especially when what you are biatching about is not anyone's fault.

If you're letting your child scream so much, and so loudly, that it annoys the neighbors, then IT IS YOUR FAULT. Any disabilities the child may have are irrelevant.


Agreed, however, that is not the tone I take from the letter writer.  If this is not proven to be fake, the person who wrote the letter has some real issues.  I have known a good number of parents/caregivers of autistic kids, and NONE of them would ever dream of just leaving a kid outside all day to scream.  Really, do you think someone would?  I doubt it.  And if *IF* they did, rather than write a letter that screams "I'm a dumbass" to all, wouldn't you contact social services?  This is Canada, not America, where people have access to health care and social services no matter who they are.

So to repeat, I think the letter is fake.  But if it's not, the writer is a douchebag, because parents of autistic kids don't chain them out in the yard and let them scream in most situations.
 
2013-08-20 02:31:07 PM

pute kisses like a man: i have left anonymous letters for neighbors whose dogs bark constantly. some barking i can deal with, but nonstop barking for hours long episodes really grinds my gears.


Agrees.

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2013-08-20 02:31:54 PM
Looks like a teenage girl wrote it, and tried to further hide her identity by saying she was a neighborhood mother.  I don't know any adult women that use purple stationary and write things like "GOD!"
 
2013-08-20 02:33:49 PM

Bloody Templar: Contrabulous Flabtraption: What did they do with autistic kids in the 1950s? Whatever it was, we should return to doing that.


If you're trolling, good job, you caught me.  If you're not, kindly send me a PM so we can plan a meetup wherein I can kick your ass.


www.memecreator.org
 
2013-08-20 02:34:41 PM

TOSViolation: asmodeus224: TOSViolation: neversubmit: TOSViolation: I didn't see a threat in the letter.

That's why you should be euthanized.

The threat is implied i.e. I don't agree with you so you should be killed. Get it now?

No, but you've just shown yourself to be an idiot.

You are just too pussified and afraid of the world to think logically. When a person says that something should happen, the ONLY thing they are implying is that they would be pleased if that thing happened. That is it. Nothing else is implied.

The author of the letter may be an asshole, but she definitely did not threaten to kill anyone.

If it were not delivered anonymously...under a door...you might be right.  But taking into account the totality of the situation, you have harassment charges and more than enough for an order of protection.

And that is good.

Once is not harassment. An ongoing campaign of intimidation or more explicit threat would be different.

I do think the author should be outed for the appropriate public shaming.


In NY State, harassment does not have to be systematic or continual...it can be a once off.  It is furthermore exasperated by circumstances such as doing so based on a disability. Or when delivered anonymously.  Or when using mechanical methods to deliver the intimidating harassment...like a printed letter.

I don't know the local laws in Canada, but in NY State, this would be aggravated harassment.

You are not allowed a Mulligan on this sort of behaviour.  You might not get the book thrown at you, as a first time offender with no history of doing this sort of thing, but it can put you in some hot water.

http://law.onecle.com/new-york/penal/PEN0240.30_240.30.html
 
2013-08-20 02:36:18 PM

bluefoxicy: TOSViolation: I read the letter, and I find it pretty ridiculous. The only thing I'm wondering is, if this had happened in the U.S.A., what the actual crime would be? It says the police are investigating the threat. What threat?

In canada, anything that expresses an opinion about how you don't like some class of people in general is restricted hate speech and liable for criminal damages.

If you say negros are inclined to criminal intent and living near them is just begging to get robbed or have drug dealers selling meth to your children, you'll be hauled into court for hate speech and put in jail.


If it makes you feel better, the Crown Attorney's Office has just said that the letter doesn't meet the threshhold for hate speech so that charge will not be considered.

/it doesn't make you feel better, does it?
 
2013-08-20 02:38:02 PM

Keeve: DubtodaIll: This doesn't come close to the a-hole threshold.  Stress is a biatch and makes you do biatchy things.  Put the kid in a soundproof kid-sized hamster ball and be done with it.

What an a$$hole thing to say. As a parent of two children I will have you know that after reading "Put the kid in a soundproof kid-sized hamster ball", I have spent the last 2 hours scouring the internet in search of soundproof kid-sized hamster balls. They don't make them. I couldn't even find anywhere to have one custom made. I found something very similar that is inflatable, but does not offer soundproofing. Not good enough. Thanks for getting my hopes up jerk!


You just need to get the inflatable one and plug any holes to make it air-tight. You won't hear any sound after a few minutes.
 
2013-08-20 02:38:03 PM
This person is both an asshole and a coward.  There are better ways to deal with a disturbance in the serenity of your neighborhood than this.

If I were the mother (well, I'm a dude, so I can't)...  I would start going house to house to see which of my neighbors happens to have a pile of pink printer paper laying around.

In any case, it should be really easy to troll this jerk out in to the open.  Bring the kid outside and let him go loose with his wailing.  Look for the nearest person that is rolling their eyes and getting annoyed.  There's your letter writing cowardly asshole.
 
2013-08-20 02:38:45 PM

asmodeus224: In NY State, harassment does not have to be systematic or continual...it can be a once off. It is furthermore exasperated by circumstances such as doing so based on a disability. Or when delivered anonymously. Or when using mechanical methods to deliver the intimidating harassment...like a printed letter.

I don't know the local laws in Canada, but in NY State, this would be aggravated harassment.


That's just because New York lawmakers are retard babies.  Laws like that just mean the first time you misspeak, you get in a hell of a lot of trouble.  Or you could profiteer by viciously suing everyone who said something impolite to you.
 
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