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(The Daily Beast)   Secretary of State Hillary Clinton throws Benghazi State Department officials under the bus, Secretary of State John Kerry picks them up from under the bus and reinstates them   (thedailybeast.com ) divider line
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2013-08-20 11:52:48 PM  

SunsetLament: Zeppelininthesky: No, they arrived a little after 1 AM. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/05/08/us/benghazi-pentagon-tim eline.html?_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/05/08/us/ben ghazi-pentagon-tim eline.html?_r=0

Please stop lying. You are just making yourself look bad.

The "American Security Team" was the six guys (2 soldiers) coming from Tripoli to pick the survivors up on the plane and take them back.  This was not a military team coming in to meet force with force and rescue those trapped at the compound.  The special forces who were in Tripoli (four soldiers) were told to stay there and not to get on the plane.

The first time an actual team of special forces showed up on Benghazi was 23 hours later.  No air support, no drone strikes, no troops showed up in Benghazi for an entire day.  Disgraceful.  Hell, it took the freaking FBI over a month to show up and investigate, while CNN was combing through the rubble two days later.

This whole administration is an embarrassment.


Oh, btw, the two soldiers on the plane disregarded orders and defended the compound during the second attack and were killed (Woods and Doherty) expecting air support and reinforcements.
 
2013-08-21 01:23:29 AM  

SunsetLament: Zeppelininthesky: No, they arrived a little after 1 AM. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/05/08/us/benghazi-pentagon-tim eline.html?_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/05/08/us/ben ghazi-pentagon-tim eline.html?_r=0

Please stop lying. You are just making yourself look bad.

The "American Security Team" was the six guys (2 soldiers) coming from Tripoli to pick the survivors up on the plane and take them back.  This was not a military team coming in to meet force with force and rescue those trapped at the compound.  The special forces who were in Tripoli (four soldiers) were told to stay there and not to get on the plane.

The first time an actual team of special forces showed up on Benghazi was 23 hours later.  No air support, no drone strikes, no troops showed up in Benghazi for an entire day.  Disgraceful.  Hell, it took the freaking FBI over a month to show up and investigate, while CNN was combing through the rubble two days later.

This whole administration is an embarrassment.


Bullshiat. Show your source that they landed 23 hours later.
 
2013-08-21 01:25:34 AM  

SunsetLament: Zeppelininthesky: No, they arrived a little after 1 AM. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/05/08/us/benghazi-pentagon-tim eline.html?_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/05/08/us/ben ghazi-pentagon-tim eline.html?_r=0

Please stop lying. You are just making yourself look bad.

The "American Security Team" was the six guys (2 soldiers) coming from Tripoli to pick the survivors up on the plane and take them back.  This was not a military team coming in to meet force with force and rescue those trapped at the compound.  The special forces who were in Tripoli (four soldiers) were told to stay there and not to get on the plane.

The first time an actual team of special forces showed up on Benghazi was 23 hours later.  No air support, no drone strikes, no troops showed up in Benghazi for an entire day.  Disgraceful.  Hell, it took the freaking FBI over a month to show up and investigate, while CNN was combing through the rubble two days later.

This whole administration is an embarrassment.


So, we didn't send out planes to shoot everyone while the American survivors were still there? Blowing up random shiat just makes more people dead. You are complaining that we sent someone to rescue the survivors, and complained when we didn't blow up everyone?
 
2013-08-21 01:28:49 AM  

Zeppelininthesky: SunsetLament: Zeppelininthesky: No, they arrived a little after 1 AM. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/05/08/us/benghazi-pentagon-tim eline.html?_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/05/08/us/ben ghazi-pentagon-tim eline.html?_r=0

Please stop lying. You are just making yourself look bad.

The "American Security Team" was the six guys (2 soldiers) coming from Tripoli to pick the survivors up on the plane and take them back.  This was not a military team coming in to meet force with force and rescue those trapped at the compound.  The special forces who were in Tripoli (four soldiers) were told to stay there and not to get on the plane.

The first time an actual team of special forces showed up on Benghazi was 23 hours later.  No air support, no drone strikes, no troops showed up in Benghazi for an entire day.  Disgraceful.  Hell, it took the freaking FBI over a month to show up and investigate, while CNN was combing through the rubble two days later.

This whole administration is an embarrassment.

Bullshiat. Show your source that they landed 23 hours later.


The Pentagon on Friday acknowledged that it took almost 22 hours from the start of the Libya consulate attack for the closest American Special Operations response team to arrive at a staging base in southern Italy.

Oops.
 
2013-08-21 01:47:38 AM  

SunsetLament: Zeppelininthesky: SunsetLament: Zeppelininthesky: No, they arrived a little after 1 AM. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/05/08/us/benghazi-pentagon-tim eline.html?_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/05/08/us/ben ghazi-pentagon-tim eline.html?_r=0

Please stop lying. You are just making yourself look bad.

The "American Security Team" was the six guys (2 soldiers) coming from Tripoli to pick the survivors up on the plane and take them back.  This was not a military team coming in to meet force with force and rescue those trapped at the compound.  The special forces who were in Tripoli (four soldiers) were told to stay there and not to get on the plane.

The first time an actual team of special forces showed up on Benghazi was 23 hours later.  No air support, no drone strikes, no troops showed up in Benghazi for an entire day.  Disgraceful.  Hell, it took the freaking FBI over a month to show up and investigate, while CNN was combing through the rubble two days later.

This whole administration is an embarrassment.

Bullshiat. Show your source that they landed 23 hours later.

The Pentagon on Friday acknowledged that it took almost 22 hours from the start of the Libya consulate attack for the closest American Special Operations response team to arrive at a staging base in southern Italy.

Oops.


Big surprise it was Fox News. How about some actual facts.

How about from the DOD website:  http://www.defense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=118500">http://www.de fense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=118500

At 6:30 p.m. EDT, according to the timeline, a six-person security team, including two DOD members, left the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli for Benghazi.

The official noted the Pentagon's National Military Command Center staff, within hours of the attack, began planning support and contingency operations with transportation and special operations experts, as well as with representatives from the four services and Africa, Europe and Central commands. By 8:39 p.m., the official said, the command center had started issuing written orders for the forces the secretary had alerted.

At 11 p.m. EDT, the official said, a second unmanned, unarmed surveillance aircraft relieved the first, and at 11:15 p.m. -- around 5 a.m. Sept. 12 in Benghazi -- the second U.S. facility there, an annex near the consulate, came under mortar and rocket-propelled grenade fire.

By 1:40 a.m. EDT Sept. 12, the first wave of Americans left Benghazi for Tripoli by airplane, with the second wave, including the bodies of the fallen, following at 4 a.m. A C-17 aircraft, under Africom direction, flew the evacuees from Tripoli to Germany later that day, the official said.
 Oops...
 
2013-08-21 03:56:53 AM  

Zeppelininthesky: How about from the DOD website: http://www.defense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=118500">http://www.de fense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=118500

At 6:30 p.m. EDT, according to the timeline, a six-person security team, including two DOD members, left the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli for Benghazi.

The official noted the Pentagon's National Military Command Center staff, within hours of the attack, began planning support and contingency operations with transportation and special operations experts, as well as with representatives from the four services and Africa, Europe and Central commands. By 8:39 p.m., the official said, the command center had started issuing written orders for the forces the secretary had alerted.

At 11 p.m. EDT, the official said, a second unmanned, unarmed surveillance aircraft relieved the first, and at 11:15 p.m. -- around 5 a.m. Sept. 12 in Benghazi -- the second U.S. facility there, an annex near the consulate, came under mortar and rocket-propelled grenade fire.

By 1:40 a.m. EDT Sept. 12, the first wave of Americans left Benghazi for Tripoli by airplane, with the second wave, including the bodies of the fallen, following at 4 a.m. A C-17 aircraft, under Africom direction, flew the evacuees from Tripoli to Germany later that day, the official said.
Oops...


I find it cute that you posted all of this as if it somehow supported any prior assertion you've made.  American personnel in Libya were attacked by terrorists, including an attempt to take over our consulate.  The highest ranking US official in the country (and one of his security team members) was killed after several hours in the initial assault.  Two former US Special Forces members (likely current CIA personnel) disobeyed orders and traveled from Tripoli to Benghazi to try and defend the people at the consulate.  After several more hours of fighting, these two men were killed in the second assault.

Meanwhile, the United States government ... including the Defense Department and the White House farked around and farked around and farked around and ultimately sent nobody to help.  They did exactly nothing other than fly a drone around in the air so they could watch.  All of the available military personnel in Tripoli was not sent (half hour flight).  No military personnel was sent from Sigonella (two hour flight).  Nothing.  They dicked around and let these people fend for themselves.  Nobody came.

Meanwhile nobody knows why nobody came.  We don't know who prevented the Special Forces personnel in Tripoli from getting on the plane and arriving with Woods and Doherty.  You can't say they wouldn't have made it in time because Woods and Doherty were fighting for hours before they were killed.  We don't know who prevented troops from leaving Sigonella and getting to Benghazi two hours later.  The assault ended 7 hours after it started - don't give me any bullshiat that troops couldn't have got there in two hours (or three, or four) and made a difference.  We don't know who prevented jets from Sigonella from being dispatched instantly to race to buzz the site and try and get the crowd to disperse.

The reason we don't know the answers to these questions is because the media doesn't want to know the answers to these questions ... and because liberals are far more concerned with protecting their incompetent Great Black Hope than they are with the lives of men that died because of that incompetence.  It's a disgrace, but it's also to be expected.  Please stop embarrassing yourself.
 
2013-08-21 05:39:44 AM  
I wonder if Hillary remembers taking sniper fire while doing this.
 
2013-08-21 05:42:17 AM  

Zeppelininthesky: Big surprise it was Fox News. How about some actual facts.


You realize you're being trolled, right?
 
2013-08-21 08:34:09 AM  
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Everything I need to know comes from the Daily Show.
 
2013-08-21 05:39:49 PM  

SunsetLament: Zeppelininthesky: How about from the DOD website: http://www.defense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=118500">http://www.de fense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=118500

At 6:30 p.m. EDT, according to the timeline, a six-person security team, including two DOD members, left the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli for Benghazi.

The official noted the Pentagon's National Military Command Center staff, within hours of the attack, began planning support and contingency operations with transportation and special operations experts, as well as with representatives from the four services and Africa, Europe and Central commands. By 8:39 p.m., the official said, the command center had started issuing written orders for the forces the secretary had alerted.

At 11 p.m. EDT, the official said, a second unmanned, unarmed surveillance aircraft relieved the first, and at 11:15 p.m. -- around 5 a.m. Sept. 12 in Benghazi -- the second U.S. facility there, an annex near the consulate, came under mortar and rocket-propelled grenade fire.

By 1:40 a.m. EDT Sept. 12, the first wave of Americans left Benghazi for Tripoli by airplane, with the second wave, including the bodies of the fallen, following at 4 a.m. A C-17 aircraft, under Africom direction, flew the evacuees from Tripoli to Germany later that day, the official said.
Oops...

I find it cute that you posted all of this as if it somehow supported any prior assertion you've made.  American personnel in Libya were attacked by terrorists, including an attempt to take over our consulate.  The highest ranking US official in the country (and one of his security team members) was killed after several hours in the initial assault.  Two former US Special Forces members (likely current CIA personnel) disobeyed orders and traveled from Tripoli to Benghazi to try and defend the people at the consulate.  After several more hours of fighting, these two men were killed in the second assault.

Meanwhile, the United States government ... including the Defense ...


Too bad what I posted is the total opposite of your reality. Sorry if facts hurt your preconceived hatred against Obama. Face it, your argument does not even hold up to even the basic facts.
 
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