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(Quartz)   DJ behind 'Harlem Shake' gets exactly what he deserves for making that song   (qz.com ) divider line
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2013-08-20 10:37:24 AM  
Wow what a kick in the balls.
 
2013-08-20 10:38:25 AM  
these are the same guys that probably pirated games and music who say "but information should be free!"
 
2013-08-20 10:45:36 AM  
I have never heard this song and likely never will. Neener.

/no, linking it here will not force me to click
 
2013-08-20 10:47:53 AM  
Most DJs don't see much money from the songs themselves that people buy, they make money touring.

Nowadays a lot of DJs spend hours and hours mixing songs in software, then on stage they more or less just hit "play" and twiddle some effects knobs.
 
2013-08-20 10:50:28 AM  

Saborlas: I have never heard this song and likely never will. Neener.

/no, linking it here will not force me to click


Yes, you will click for you have no self-will.  Or you are lying and wanting people to provide you with links.  Either way, you will click.
 
2013-08-20 10:50:34 AM  
This article read like it's about to be dropped into an Ayn Rand book.

Seriously though. You didn't expect the music industry to gut you for everything you had? How is this surprising in this day and age when there have been prior history?
 
2013-08-20 10:50:54 AM  
yeah so his increase in bookings isnt directly attributed to the internet fad? ok, dummy.
 
2013-08-20 10:51:27 AM  

Saborlas: I have never heard this song and likely never will. Neener.

/no, linking it here will not force me to click


Fun. You. Parties.
 
2013-08-20 10:51:47 AM  
Meanwhile in America:  some kid is being sued for $35k for stealing/sharing a single MP3.
 
2013-08-20 10:52:20 AM  
Just look at all those paying customers to see him live.  I wonder if he played the hs for them?
 
2013-08-20 11:02:22 AM  
"His single Harlem Shake was a huge hit in February" ...
That right there made me laugh.
 
2013-08-20 11:02:24 AM  

vernonFL: Most DJs don't see much money from the songs themselves that people buy, they make money touring.

Nowadays a lot of DJs spend hours and hours mixing songs in software, then on stage they more or less just hit "play" and twiddle some effects knobs.


Fundamently, I don't really have that much of a problem with that as long as they provide something interesting going on stage wise, at least looks like they are doing something, and are enjoying themselves. Gives you an oppertunity to hear the mix BIG with other folks that are also having a good time.
I'm pretty sure Girl Talk just hits play, but there is also a A/V show going on along with it.

I downloaded a bunch of Daft Punk concert Bootlegs, and yes, they all sounded alike. But the crowd seemed to be having a blast.
 
2013-08-20 11:05:03 AM  
Someone broke every finger on his hands?
 
2013-08-20 11:10:26 AM  
In case anyone else was misled by the headline: He's still living.
 
2013-08-20 11:16:47 AM  
 
2013-08-20 11:18:14 AM  

Cerebral Knievel: vernonFL: Most DJs don't see much money from the songs themselves that people buy, they make money touring.

Nowadays a lot of DJs spend hours and hours mixing songs in software, then on stage they more or less just hit "play" and twiddle some effects knobs.

Fundamently, I don't really have that much of a problem with that as long as they provide something interesting going on stage wise, at least looks like they are doing something, and are enjoying themselves. Gives you an oppertunity to hear the mix BIG with other folks that are also having a good time.
I'm pretty sure Girl Talk just hits play, but there is also a A/V show going on along with it.

I downloaded a bunch of Daft Punk concert Bootlegs, and yes, they all sounded alike. But the crowd seemed to be having a blast.


It's really not complicated to mix digitally.  Software does the only tricky bit of synchronizing the beats, and there's still tons of high paid DJs who don't even care if their beats are matched or not.  It's literally just cross faded over.  Pretty much every big mainstream name has been caught his unhooked cables, faking it, etc.

You may see a lot of DJs twiddling knobs, but chances are they are just playing with the EQ, trying to look busy.  It's a common fake move.  I have more respect for a DJ who sticks his hands in his pocket in the middle of a track or has a drink.  They aren't trying to look cool in front of the crowd.  You can see that in some sets from Boiler Room (on YouTube.)

Anyway, as for the DJ not making any money, well, he's got two damn singles listed on Discogs.  When that single caught fire, even if it was just a meme, he should have gotten an album together and released it ASAP.  He should have had legal representation as well.

He still has money coming to him though. just perhaps not this year or even this decade.  The tune will eventually be licensed for some reason or another and he will have a payday then.
 
2013-08-20 11:21:26 AM  
This picture says otherwise:

img2u.info

I'm sure he's gotten a LOT of gigs, paying pretty well, since that song became a meme. He'll be making money off of it, indirectly, for the next decade at least.
 
2013-08-20 11:25:24 AM  
TFA:
rickbakas.com
 
2013-08-20 11:29:54 AM  
If you don't protect yourself as an artist, the record labels will screw you over with a 3 foot dick. I remember A Tribe Called Quest saying that after they had 2 platinum albums and coming off of a year of touring, when everything was settled the record company cut them each a check for $30k and said that was their share of everything. They said after that they did everything they could to learn the business side and protect themselves.
 
2013-08-20 11:42:07 AM  

Glitchwerks: Cerebral Knievel: vernonFL: Most DJs don't see much money from the songs themselves that people buy, they make money touring.

Nowadays a lot of DJs spend hours and hours mixing songs in software, then on stage they more or less just hit "play" and twiddle some effects knobs.

Fundamently, I don't really have that much of a problem with that as long as they provide something interesting going on stage wise, at least looks like they are doing something, and are enjoying themselves. Gives you an oppertunity to hear the mix BIG with other folks that are also having a good time.
I'm pretty sure Girl Talk just hits play, but there is also a A/V show going on along with it.

I downloaded a bunch of Daft Punk concert Bootlegs, and yes, they all sounded alike. But the crowd seemed to be having a blast.

It's really not complicated to mix digitally.  Software does the only tricky bit of synchronizing the beats, and there's still tons of high paid DJs who don't even care if their beats are matched or not.  It's literally just cross faded over.  Pretty much every big mainstream name has been caught his unhooked cables, faking it, etc.

You may see a lot of DJs twiddling knobs, but chances are they are just playing with the EQ, trying to look busy.  It's a common fake move.  I have more respect for a DJ who sticks his hands in his pocket in the middle of a track or has a drink.  They aren't trying to look cool in front of the crowd.  You can see that in some sets from Boiler Room (on YouTube.)

Anyway, as for the DJ not making any money, well, he's got two damn singles listed on Discogs.  When that single caught fire, even if it was just a meme, he should have gotten an album together and released it ASAP.  He should have had legal representation as well.

He still has money coming to him though. just perhaps not this year or even this decade.  The tune will eventually be licensed for some reason or another and he will have a payday then.


I sort of agree with a lot of them not doing much while DJing but large acts like Chemical Brothers/Crystal Method and Daft Punk do live sequencing and playing of instrutments/synths in their live performances. I mean why would they pay for multiple semi's just to put on an "act?" Hauling all that gear around would cost the money when they could easily just DJ and fake it.

The one DJ I have seen live multiple times who never fails to impress is Fatboy Slim aka Norman Cook. That guy could cut up vinyl in some pretty unique ways and had a hell of a live show, sure the new digital method he uses now may not be as interesting but he still does a pretty awesome live show.
 
2013-08-20 11:46:49 AM  

TheGhostofFarkPast: Glitchwerks: Cerebral Knievel: vernonFL: Most DJs don't see much money from the songs themselves that people buy, they make money touring.

Nowadays a lot of DJs spend hours and hours mixing songs in software, then on stage they more or less just hit "play" and twiddle some effects knobs.

Fundamently, I don't really have that much of a problem with that as long as they provide something interesting going on stage wise, at least looks like they are doing something, and are enjoying themselves. Gives you an oppertunity to hear the mix BIG with other folks that are also having a good time.
I'm pretty sure Girl Talk just hits play, but there is also a A/V show going on along with it.

I downloaded a bunch of Daft Punk concert Bootlegs, and yes, they all sounded alike. But the crowd seemed to be having a blast.

It's really not complicated to mix digitally.  Software does the only tricky bit of synchronizing the beats, and there's still tons of high paid DJs who don't even care if their beats are matched or not.  It's literally just cross faded over.  Pretty much every big mainstream name has been caught his unhooked cables, faking it, etc.

You may see a lot of DJs twiddling knobs, but chances are they are just playing with the EQ, trying to look busy.  It's a common fake move.  I have more respect for a DJ who sticks his hands in his pocket in the middle of a track or has a drink.  They aren't trying to look cool in front of the crowd.  You can see that in some sets from Boiler Room (on YouTube.)

Anyway, as for the DJ not making any money, well, he's got two damn singles listed on Discogs.  When that single caught fire, even if it was just a meme, he should have gotten an album together and released it ASAP.  He should have had legal representation as well.

He still has money coming to him though. just perhaps not this year or even this decade.  The tune will eventually be licensed for some reason or another and he will have a payday then.

I sort of agree with a lot of them not doing much while DJing but large acts like Chemical Brothers/Crystal Method and Daft Punk do live sequencing and playing of instrutments/synths in their live performances. I mean why would they pay for multiple semi's just to put on an "act?" Hauling all that gear around would cost the money when they could easily just DJ and fake it.

The one DJ I have seen live multiple times who never fails to impress is Fatboy Slim aka Norman Cook. That guy could cut up vinyl in some pretty unique ways and had a hell of a live show, sure the new digital method he uses now may not be as interesting but he still does a pretty awesome live show.


Oh my yes, Fatboy Slim is the shiat. Never get tired of his stuff
 
2013-08-20 11:53:56 AM  

98RKC: "His single Harlem Shake was a huge hit in February" ...
That right there made me laugh.


What song did you make that went viral and reached every aspect of culture?
 
2013-08-20 12:01:10 PM  
Studio work is tough.
Just ask Deadhorse7

http://youtu.be/jgT8UdjwsaU
 
2013-08-20 12:06:14 PM  

the_end_is_rear: Studio work is tough.
Just ask Deadhorse7

http://youtu.be/jgT8UdjwsaU


t.fod4.com
 
2013-08-20 12:19:30 PM  

Saborlas: I have never heard this song and likely never will. Neener.

/no, linking it here will not force me to click


Watch out. We got a hipster over here.
 
2013-08-20 12:33:15 PM  

kobrakai: Saborlas: I have never heard this song and likely never will. Neener.

/no, linking it here will not force me to click

Watch out. We got a hipster over here.


That's weird. Where I'm from, we call people who avoid nonsense like that "adults".
 
2013-08-20 12:38:37 PM  
 
2013-08-20 01:00:11 PM  

thurstonxhowell


That's weird. Where I'm from, we call people who avoid nonsense like that "adults".


I call them "popsicles": they think they're cool, but they're actually just cold and have sticks up their backsides.
 
2013-08-20 01:01:50 PM  

thurstonxhowell: kobrakai: Saborlas: I have never heard this song and likely never will. Neener.

/no, linking it here will not force me to click

Watch out. We got a hipster over here.

That's weird. Where I'm from, we call people who avoid nonsense like that "adults".


media.heavy.com : Adults
 
2013-08-20 01:06:48 PM  
andrewjpatrick.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-08-20 01:12:11 PM  
cdn.idolator.com

Yes, because this man has made so little money, right?

Harlem Shake wasn't about just about the 30-second clip.  It was about the whole meme: the video, the change of people on the hit, and yes, the music.  He'll just get a ton of fame (and fortune) from it, even if the song got so popular, it's practically public domain.

See also: Bill Watterson
 
2013-08-20 01:32:19 PM  
Kid Koala, look him up.
 
2013-08-20 02:01:45 PM  
Girl Talk does all his sampling live just for the record.
 
2013-08-20 02:29:04 PM  
soldiers one was my favorite.  the guy on the right side falling out of the window is a classic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hpEnLtqUDg
 
2013-08-20 02:34:41 PM  

blue_2501: See also: Bill Watterson

img2u.info

Piss on the quitter.

/Not really
 
2013-08-20 03:48:24 PM  

TheGhostofFarkPast: I sort of agree with a lot of them not doing much while DJing but large acts like Chemical Brothers/Crystal Method and Daft Punk do live sequencing and playing of instrutments/synths in their live performances. I mean why would they pay for multiple semi's just to put on an "act?" Hauling all that gear around would cost the money when they could easily just DJ and fake it.


I've never watched much of Daft Punk's live performances, but most of what those semis are hauling around is their lighting, screens, etc.

digitaldj.files.wordpress.com That's not a huge amount of gear.  It's more than your average DJ, of course.

TheGhostofFarkPast: The one DJ I have seen live multiple times who never fails to impress is Fatboy Slim aka Norman Cook. That guy could cut up vinyl in some pretty unique ways and had a hell of a live show, sure the new digital method he uses now may not be as interesting but he still does a pretty awesome live show.


Yeah, he's an old school DJ so he knows how to spin.  I can't blame anyone for going digital, lugging crates of vinyl around the world has got to be a huge pain in the ass.
 
2013-08-20 03:54:27 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: thurstonxhowell

That's weird. Where I'm from, we call people who avoid nonsense like that "adults".


I call them "popsicles": they think they're cool, but they're actually just cold and have sticks up their backsides.


I'm going to make a doughnut analogy. When you're a dumb kid, the most attractive doughnut is the double fudge creme filled with rainbow sprinkles topped with icing in the shape of a happy face. That's what this music is equivalent to. It doesn't taste like anything but some kind of sweet generic unsatisfying mess.

Or for another analogy, think about the holy grail scene in Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade.
 
2013-08-20 04:08:06 PM  
 
2013-08-20 04:13:54 PM  

browntimmy: Englebert Slaptyback: thurstonxhowell

That's weird. Where I'm from, we call people who avoid nonsense like that "adults".


I call them "popsicles": they think they're cool, but they're actually just cold and have sticks up their backsides.

I'm going to make a doughnut analogy. When you're a dumb kid, the most attractive doughnut is the double fudge creme filled with rainbow sprinkles topped with icing in the shape of a happy face. That's what this music is equivalent to. It doesn't taste like anything but some kind of sweet generic unsatisfying mess.

Or for another analogy, think about the holy grail scene in Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade.


And at 30, it's still my favorite doughnut.

Also the funny face pancake at IHOP.
 
2013-08-20 04:44:04 PM  
Good, the world doesn't need anymore millionaire djs.
 
2013-08-20 06:03:16 PM  
In the year 2013 everybody wants to be a DJ...
 
2013-08-20 07:14:07 PM  
Read this and this (much the same information, but some other interesting bits; sorry for the "2 pages" crap).

Now you know why musicians make shiat.

/and why I'm happy to "steal" money from the RIAA by torrenting music
 
2013-08-20 07:16:39 PM  
Dammit, this: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100712/23482610186.shtml
 
2013-08-20 07:34:21 PM  

thurstonxhowell: In case anyone else was misled by the headline: He's still living.


OK, that made me geek-snort...
 
2013-08-20 08:14:52 PM  
Chicken or the Egg? If Harlem Shake was agressively protected then it would less likely have blown up, thus no one would've known of it. The guy behind Gangnam style was a great sport about his video being shared and hoped it'd parley into more sales of following works. Which in theory is a sound strategy except the mass audience doesn't want to pay for anything ever and the more saturated something is the more they think they can just reach out and pluck it. Why would I pay for band A, B, or C when there's music all the time that is free. It's like when people compare the Internet to a library but some people never move past the new release shelf.
 
2013-08-20 08:19:12 PM  
cdn.popdust.com

Meanwhile, these two are still counting their cash.
 
2013-08-20 09:49:23 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Read this and this (much the same information, but some other interesting bits; sorry for the "2 pages" crap).

Now you know why musicians make shiat.

/and why I'm happy to "steal" money from the RIAA by torrenting music


I've bought plenty of albums the past few years, but only directly from the artists themselves from their websites.
 
2013-08-20 10:50:06 PM  
You wouldn't download a car, would you?

But if you're Warner Bros, you'd gladly sell someone elses work and not pay them a dime...!
 
2013-08-20 11:05:41 PM  

KellyX: You wouldn't download a car, would you?

But if you're Warner Bros, you'd gladly sell someone elses work and not pay them a dime...!


pictures.topspeed.com
 
2013-08-20 11:12:26 PM  
so um anyone else watch Filthy Frank?

He's like an awful stinky cheese that I keep on going back to. So, so bad, but I can't help myself.

\nnnyeeessss!!
 
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