antidisestablishmentarianism: Retiring the bestest plane evar? What will replace it?
Warthog: This thread is relevant to my interests.
error 303: Chupathingy.
belhade: It's a flying tank. that flies. HOW CAN YOU RETIRE THAT??
mbillips: costermonger: mbillips: 1. The A-10 has very low survivability in a contested air environment. It's a Stuka. If there's effective CAP or even good SAM defenses on a target, the A-10 can't attack it.That's always been true though. Was true of the Skyraider before it. Korea was probably the last time CAS aircraft could take on enemy fighters (mostly because they were fighters themselves, 5-6 years removed) without being totally suicidal. The advent of AAMs and SAMs ended those days.Not true. The A-7D replaced the Skyraiders in Vietnam, was just as capable, and the Air Force lost only 6 of them in 13,000 sorties, partly because the A-7 could handle MiG-19s and SAMs. The A-10 was a completely unnecessary program, in that it did nothing that the A-7 couldn't do; the Air Force just didn't want to use a "Navy" aircraft.
slayer199: belhade: It's a flying tank. that flies. HOW CAN YOU RETIRE THAT??There really is no better plane for CAS (though you could argue that helicopters can do the job).Seriously, the A-10 is built around a ridiculous gun that can cut through tanks like butter....and has a great record for survivability. I highly doubt that the F-35 or any other plan could survive as well as the A-10.[www.ww2aircraft.net image 400x300][simhq.com image 565x354][blogs.defensenews.com image 850x461]
duffblue: A10 is the coolest plane ever. That is all.
Egoy3k: I must be missing something here the A-10 is a extremely effective aircraft and has proven it's worth about a thousand times over. The only possible drawback is the main gun is goddamned expensive to operate. The thing is the only thing an F-35 can use in place of the A-10's main gun are JDAMs and JSOWs which cost a fortune. Each.
Click Click D'oh: The sad thing is, the A-10s days are truly numbered. Yes, they replaced all the inner gizmos and upgraded the whole fleet to A-10C status, but wing cracks from low altitude high G flying are not going away.. and there's only so many A-10 wings out there. It will have to be replaced eventually.
ceebeecates4: With all these GEDs in military procurement and logistics management, we can keep the Thunderbolt II flying for 30 years! After all, all one has to do is waltz down to Fairchild Republic and pick up a few spare parts! Maintaining an obsolete aircraft that has the RCS of a barn and the thermal signature of the sun worked really well for the Iranians, and that's why their F-14 fleet is the best in the world! After all, we're still facing the dangers of columns of soviet T-72s about to push through the Fulda gap, and MANPADS are far too expensive for any potential enemy to afford./Nostalgia has no place in weapon systems.
Plant Rights Activist: stop making up animals
clkeagle: The Pentagon needs to figure out whatever stupid rule prevents the Army from possessing these and revoke it.
vygramul: In other news, the Air Force doesn't like the CAS mission and would just as soon not have it at all.
Hack Patooey: T-Servo: antidisestablishmentarianism: Retiring the bestest plane evar? What will replace it?Lockheed Martin has assured me that the F-35 will be able to handle all responsibilities of the A-10, and will do it with an invisibility cloak and loiter time of 20+ hours.With rainbows shooting out its ass, no doubt.
T-Servo: antidisestablishmentarianism: Retiring the bestest plane evar? What will replace it?Lockheed Martin has assured me that the F-35 will be able to handle all responsibilities of the A-10, and will do it with an invisibility cloak and loiter time of 20+ hours.
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