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(Anchorage Daily News)   Bill O'Reilly vacations in Alaska. And then has to ruin it all by trying to psychoanalyze everything. "This is America the way it used to be"   (adn.com) divider line 30
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2013-08-20 08:54:00 AM
19 votes:
It's absolutely true. Everyone in Alaska is content to be snowed in for months at a time with no modern conveniences such as electricity, running water, or the Internet. They live off the fat of the land, hunting moose with black powder rifles and ice fishing. They bury their meat in the ground and smoke it that way. They go on long walks into the wilderness with only bags of rice and a knife to survive, and some of them never come back, and they simply nod at that and explain that "this is Alaska." They share their wives with strangers and when someone grows too ill to survive another winter, he does not complain or whimper about "universal health care;" no, he merely finds an ice floe and sits down upon it and faces west so that he can witness one last sunset, one last beacon of God's creation, before allowing himself to slip silently beneath the waves. Capitalism for an Alaskan consists of bartering bits of bone, wild nuts, and salmon for what necessities he cannot make on his own. They are like Canadians, in some ways, except of course Alaskans cherish freedom and liberty above all things, even life, while Canadians do not. For it is true that long ago God crafted a mold from which he fashioned the earliest pioneers, those rugged individuals who wrenched America from the vast and empty wilderness. When the job was done, God cast that mold aside, into a land where only the strongest and most able could survive. That land was Alaska, and the mold lies there still.
2013-08-20 11:07:02 AM
5 votes:
I'm starting to realize how much of the conservative ideology is based on bad nostalgia.
2013-08-20 10:39:13 AM
3 votes:
"This is America the way it used to be"

About 10 degrees cooler?
2013-08-20 10:32:44 AM
3 votes:
So...he's saying everyone in the U.S. should receive a check from the government annually to pay us each our fair share of the mineral resources extracted from the land?

OK.
2013-08-20 10:31:46 AM
3 votes:
Populated by mostly Natives?
2013-08-20 10:31:45 AM
3 votes:
The America where everyone gets yearly checks from oil companies?

Bill O'Reilly loves socialism!!!
2013-08-20 09:03:48 AM
3 votes:
Then the White Man screwed it all up.
2013-08-20 08:50:47 AM
3 votes:
"This is America the way it used to be"

No wifi and addicted to meth.
2013-08-20 01:17:01 PM
2 votes:
Since I was in Alaska the same week as Billo, I'll pass along my impressions of the place (the people and culture, not the scenery, which of course is magnificent), which don't necessarily align with Bill's:

--About half the population of the state lives in Anchorage, but it's still not a very large city, maybe around 300K people (spread out over a very large geographical area of city limits).  The people in Anchorage fancy the place to be something of a cosmoplitan urban area similar to, I dunno, Seattle.  It's not.  It reminds me more of a larger version of Eureka, California--a working seaport area that, while not large, is still by far the largest city for many, many miles in any direction (in the case of Anchorage, a couple thousand miles).  While the area it's in is scenic (like virtually all of Alaska), the town itself (i.e., the buildings and architecture) isn't particularly scenic.  But it does have lots of good places to eat, good places to stay, and the everyday commercial enterprises that are in any decent-sized town in the lower 48 but that generally don't exist elsewhere in Alaska outside of Anchorage (Costco, etc.).  It's home to the only freeway in the entire state of Alaska (about 25 miles worth), so it's definitely more urban and "crowded" than the rest of the state, though to an outside it still seems like a small town.

--Even though, as mentioned above, Anchorage is hardly a crowded metropolis, many of the Alaskan people outside of Anchorage talk shiat about it as if it is the worst, most crowded and oppressive kind of urban hellscape.  It's the same sort of comments one hears in rural California about how "They're tryin' to turn this place into L.A.!" except in Alaska you hear them say "If we did that, we would be just like Anchorage!"  In their minds, Anchorage and L.A. are basically the same kind of place--some of the locals even sarcastically refer to Anchorage as "Los Anchorage," as seen on this defaced road sign I snapped a pic of:

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Of course, as much as they profess to dislike what Anchorage represents, those close enough to go there do so regularly.  To go to Costco, for example.  People in Alaska sure seem to like Costco and worship the place like a religion, even more than people in the lower 48.  And you can kinda understand why, of course--when the nearest town's only general store sells no "fresh" meat other than a couple of frozen sirloin steaks (purchased from Costco on the store owner's most recent trip to Anchorage, most likely) stored in a residential style Kenmore freezer in the back of the store for $15 a pound, the fresh fruit and vegetable selection consists of one head of cabbage and two dried-up onions, and rest of the food selection consists of a few cans of Del Monte green beans, a few loaves of Wonder bread, a few bags of Fritos, and a couple of dozen similar products, going to Costco has got to seem like a trip through the Garden of Eden.

--The vast majority of people who live in Alaska were born elsewhere and moved there later--sometimes as kids along with their parents, but most often as adults.  For some reason it seemed that half the people I met who lived there had moved there from either Minnesota or Pennsylvania, along with a number of other places.  Some of them may leave in the winter and work/live in places such as Washington or Oregon for the season, but they all seem fiercely devoted to Alaska and swear they would never move anywhere else.  I can understand this.  Many of these people came for a visit years ago and fell in love with the place and never left.  I can also understand this--I didn't really want to leave either!

--There are plenty of rednecks in Alaska (as the existence of the Palin clan proves), but there is also a decent representation of groovy hippie leftist types.  The former outnumbers the latter, of course, and the former is more likely to vote, resulting in Alaska being a very red state politically.  Both groups, however, share a certain amount of common ground--they both tend to be of a certain libertarian bent, they both like the outdoors (and many of the same outdoor activities, including hunting and fishing), both like the fact that they can avoid sales and income taxes in Alaska by taxing oil production, and they both complain about being ripped off on health care expenses.  One thing that seems very different about much of the rest of America is that both groups generally seem to like and appreciate each other, and are respectful of either other's views while disagreeing with them.  They drink in the same bars (because there may be only one bar in town), their kids go to the same schools (because there may be only one school in the area), they work in the same industries or even at the same places, and they see each other all the time and know about how the other half actually lives and what they do.  So it's harder, I think, to rely on stereotypes and false narratives about the other side, because they know first-hand that some of those stereotypes and narratives don't actually apply to the people they personally know quite well.  So they may discuss politics in the local bar and jokingly dismiss the other's views with an "of course you would say that, because that's how you Palin-lovin' rednecks think" or "well, yeah, I figured an Obama-lovin' hippie like you would think that," and then buy the next round and talk about going moose hunting next month.  In that respect, Billo is right, it's more like "America used to be," before he and others on Fox and similar sources poisoned the well by vitriolically demonizing those who don't think they way they do.
2013-08-20 10:05:19 AM
2 votes:
I prefer my America without the run down trailer parks, disenfranchised native population and meth heads?
2013-08-21 01:39:27 AM
1 votes:
O'Rly: "This is the way America used to be."

A vast arctic region, covered with ice?

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2013-08-20 01:09:54 PM
1 votes:

Churchill2004: Corvus:

You mean the old America that was socialist?

Not related to the oil fund, but what the hell's up with her glasses in that pic? They're not symmetrical- one side is half-framed, the other full-framed. I've never seen glasses like that, and I've bought a new pair of glasses every year or two since I was in 1st grade. They look like someone smacked her upside the head and broke them.


OK, you wear glasses, go do an experiment: go look at yourself in a mirror.

I don't want to use the wrong technical term here, but check out how the shape of your face is distorted by the lens. The line from your forehead to jaw will look like it has a dent in it. The stronger your prescription, the more distortion there will be.

Now, look at every picture of Palin. There's never any of that- no break in the line. Her glasses aren't serving any purpose- they're strictly for show. They're a prop.
2013-08-20 12:54:54 PM
1 votes:
Does he mean "Mostly natives and a few crazy whites"?
2013-08-20 12:53:57 PM
1 votes:
BillO the Clown wouldn't last a week in the America that 'used to be'.

working sunup to sundown, and then some.  the best of America was the 60's/70's.  except vietnam and civil rights.  it was down hill from there.

and, starting in the mid 70's, according to the Congressional Budget Office, Real Wages and Worker productivity begin to diverge.  Real wages flattend out and worker productivity went thru the roof.

wonder where all that extra wealth went?

to our friends in the richest 2% of the Nation.

and THAT is much of the reason why this Nation is in the place its in today.

cheers!
2013-08-20 12:33:34 PM
1 votes:
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2013-08-20 12:10:26 PM
1 votes:
A few travelogue tips on visiting Alaska.

1)  Anchorage is entirely civilized, clean and pretty.  There are Victorian and modern bed and breakfasts near the center of the city, as well as fine hotels, but you have to book far ahead of time.  Lots of green everything and the city has a flower theme in summer.  Golden and bald eagles instead of pigeons.

2)  The first two weeks of July are the best time to visit, because temperatures in Anchorage are in the high 60's to low 70's, by then the mosquitoes are gone, and there is about 20 hours of sunlight a day, so you never want to sleep and want to walk everywhere.

3)  The state railroad is classic 1940s style, comfortable with lots of leg room, which is a great way to travel to Seward, because it is insanely beautiful.  Seward is gorgeous, but has a more classical Alaskan look, and is where you can catch a 100-ton boat to see the Denali National Park.

4)  As peaceful and calm as the land is, the water is right at the border of fisherman's heaven and hell.  It is full of giant fish, but can turn from smooth as glass to 8-10' swells in minutes.  There are warnings everywhere that the glacial silt beaches are deadly, and they are not kidding.

5)  In the countryside, there are critters everywhere, including bear, moose, reindeer, wolves, you name it.  There are also little creeks everywhere, and many people commute with light aircraft.

6)  Oddly enough, the prices there are pretty comparable for most things, though there are no convenience stores and few fast food restaurants.  Direct flights to many US cities.
2013-08-20 11:22:29 AM
1 votes:
This is America the way it used to be?

Dumb enough to vote Republican reliably?
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-20 11:17:02 AM
1 votes:

Headso: Little known fact: In America we all used to get checks each year based on the amount of resources extracted from the ground.


O Really?

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2013-08-20 11:10:56 AM
1 votes:

Frank N Stein: Alaska is great. There's so much open space, beautiful terrain, and amazing wildlife that one can easily spend a day away from another human and explore. Its not hard to find an empty stream to fish, or lazily kayak a bay to observe whales and seals, or spent a day hiking up a mountain.


Sounds like a liberal environmentalist's paradise!
2013-08-20 11:07:30 AM
1 votes:

Corvus: HeadLever: vudukungfu: Populated by mostly Natives?

Alaska does have by far the highest population of Native Americans at about 16 to 17 percent.  That is another large federal obligation on top of everythign else.

So they depend on government handouts? I've been told those on the right government hand outs makes you dependent on government, why would you want that states to be that?

Why shouldn't they be bootstrapy and be able to provide to their own populations by themselves?


What is your point?
2013-08-20 11:06:56 AM
1 votes:
It costs so much to transport everything that it's ridiculously expensive? Or does he mean a mostly empty wilderness?
2013-08-20 10:52:04 AM
1 votes:
Used to be?  Alaska has only been America for 54 years.
2013-08-20 10:44:09 AM
1 votes:
Unless he's vacationing in the interior, he's never actually seen what Alaska is like.
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-20 10:35:41 AM
1 votes:
Why doesn't he go to somalia?  That's the REAL land before the evil gubbmint.
2013-08-20 10:35:35 AM
1 votes:

theorellior: I don't think Billo's ancestors fresh off the boat from County Cavan saw much in the way of Alaskan-style wilderness in northern New Jersey.


Billo wouldn't have let filthy immigrants like his ancestors into these glorious United States.
2013-08-20 10:34:32 AM
1 votes:
People like him are incapable of seeing anything without putting it through their preconception filter.
2013-08-20 10:34:09 AM
1 votes:
I don't think Billo's ancestors fresh off the boat from County Cavan saw much in the way of Alaskan-style wilderness in northern New Jersey.
2013-08-20 09:57:40 AM
1 votes:
This is Russia the way it used to be?
2013-08-20 09:26:34 AM
1 votes:
Somehow, I doubt the looks of the Best Buy parking lot on the day PFD checks come out would fit neatly into O'Reilly's character profile of Joe Alaska.

PFD doesn't count as welfare though because the people of Alaska are more...uhh...umm...

Can someone dog whistle this one out for me?
2013-08-20 09:03:43 AM
1 votes:
Alaska! Where you can't be too fat or too drunk. Where no one says things like "Let's see your high school equivalency certificate."
 
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