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(Sun News Network)   Canada's fiercest winters won't stop the delivery of your mail. But if your stairs are two inches too high, forget about it   (sunnewsnetwork.ca) divider line 60
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2013-08-19 03:34:48 PM
Man do I hate old people.
 
2013-08-19 04:10:27 PM

Babwa Wawa: r1niceboy: A screen door, the main door, both closed, AND the dog musn't bark? Gimme a break.

Who said the dog couldn't bark?  This is what you wrote:

one mail carrier won't deliver unless the screen door and main door are closed when a dog in in the house, and the dog's bark is not aggressive.

Which I interpreted to mean that your dog's bark is not aggressive.

Keep in mind a lot of postal carriers have 1000 or more houses on their routes - especially when they're packed in tight.  Not sure what your zip code is, but the 87505 area code averages over 600 residences per carrier route.

Now, I'm not sure what the douchebag to normal person ratio is, but I'm pretty sure that on every carrier route there's at least a dozen assholes who don't know how (or don't want) to control their dogs. Given the breadth of humanity that these people have to deal with, I'm going to give the mail carrier the ability to make reasonable judgments as to whether to approach a house that has a snarling dog.  Particularly when considering that some people might be motivated to try to keep the mail carrier away.

Whether you agree with me on that or not, we can surely agree a screen door isn't a protection from anything but insects, right  Just pretend it's not there, because nobody should have to trust it to stop a dog.


I'll agree that a screen door is no barrier, but the two doors I mentioned, twice, is a significant barrier. Now if a dog can turn a door handle while pulling inwards, I'll grant you, that's a dog something special, and worth keeping an eye on. As for dog barks, they can be really varied in the intent behind them. I've seen (and heard) my dogs barks range from the "warning, someone's here, mine, mine, " to the "gimme, gimme, gimme" to the "chase it." Typically, most dogs will unleash the first one when shut behind a door where someone's making a noise. That doesn't equate to "Postman must die." A mail carrier that I had when I lived in Nebraska understood how dogs reacted, and he'd never offer a hand, or even make eye contact with a dog, until the owner gave the okay. So if some posties are more familiar with the union handbook rather than the evidence of their own eyes, I've no sympathy for them. If a dog displays unfettered physical aggression, it's one thing. However, assuming that every dog issuing a warning from behind a door is aggression, well, that is rank laziness.
 
2013-08-19 04:16:09 PM

Venar: "why should I apologize for anything?"

And here I though Canadians were know for their apologies.


I am sorry but you were misinformed.

It is the British who are known for their beautiful apologies.  For example, see Hugh Grant's beautiful apology when he was caught hiring a hooker (was that a transvestite hooker or am I confusing him with Eddie Murphy?)

Canadians are known for both apologizing when they bump into each other, etc. This is due to No Fault Insurance. Regardless of who is responsible, both parties apologize as it costs them nothing.

Instead of apologizing, Americans usually sue each other or, when appropriate, somebody richer. They are also known for not apologizing but instead finding Jesus. Jesus is the American "Get out of jail free card". Apparently he is easy to find, provided you can afford a lawyer to find him for you.
 
2013-08-19 04:18:46 PM
I'm sorry for not Googling sooner, but I looked up Hugh Grant (using "British actor hooker" as search words) and found that he was arrested for contact with Divine Brown, a black female hooker. It was Eddie Murphy who picked up the male transvestite.

Divine? Well, that just reminds us of how much worse he could have done. Don't you think that John Candy did a good Divine impression on SCTV?
 
2013-08-19 04:23:02 PM

r1niceboy: Now if a dog can turn a door handle while pulling inwards,


It's not the dog that opens the door.  It's the asshole owner who either thinks:

1. "Oh, Spot will just lick you to death"
2. "I don't want to sign for that collection notice"

When I delivered pizza, I had to approach shiatty houses with snarling dogs.  It was no goddam fun, and I sure as hell didn't deliver to 600+ houses every day.
 
2013-08-19 04:49:32 PM

Babwa Wawa: r1niceboy: Now if a dog can turn a door handle while pulling inwards,

It's not the dog that opens the door.  It's the asshole owner who either thinks:

1. "Oh, Spot will just lick you to death"
2. "I don't want to sign for that collection notice"

When I delivered pizza, I had to approach shiatty houses with snarling dogs.  It was no goddam fun, and I sure as hell didn't deliver to 600+ houses every day.


The door opening is another matter. I'd trust the dogs more with the owners not around than with them there. You inevitably get Billy Bob yelling at bruiser to STFU, but Bruiser is agitated because he's got an owner that has no clue how to control a dog. My recommendation to owners is to put the dogs out back the moment they order the pizza, if that can't be done, to shut them in a room while the pizza is coming. Ideally, you'd have your dogs socialized enough that they'd do no more than sniff the person at the door, but I always instruct people to not make eye contact. If it's a person coming into the house, they can't make eye contact until all the dogs get their initial excitement out of the way and are doing nothing more than sniffing. Sniffing is good, but let the dog come to you.
 
2013-08-19 05:05:30 PM

here to help: It's a little known fact that Canadians are dicks.


We had to learn it from someone...  thanks good neighbor!
 
2013-08-19 06:14:50 PM

r1niceboy: The door opening is another matter.


And therein lies the rub.  The pizza delivery guy is someone you're expecting, and actually want to be there.  The mailman rarely delivers good news.

Again, a carrier probably has more than 500 households to deliver to.  Making him play the guessing game as to which door's going to open is not cool.  Giving him the ability to make a decision not to deliver to a hostile household is just fine with me.  But it has to be codified, and therefore the requirement that the door is shut, and no hostile dog households will be delivered to is fine with me too.

Get to know your carrier - a quick note introducing yourself, your family and your dog, asking what you can do to make his/her life easier will likely go a long way.  A $10 dunkin donuts gift card during the holidays.  It'll go a long way.
 
2013-08-19 06:59:04 PM
Unless the steps look like this:

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that fail carrier needs to STFU. Pick up your feet, you lazy shiat.
 
2013-08-19 07:30:26 PM
Looks to me like there's plenty of assholery to go around in this one.  Old Fart should put a small step at the bottom or let the guy walk on the grass.  Post Office should apologize for suspending his mail without telling him.  And both parties should Get A Farking Grip.
 
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