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(Think Progress)   It's funny enough that the group which came up with the idea of ObamaCare is leading a campaign to destroy ObamaCare, but when your followers resort to R.I.P.D. memes? That's comedy gold   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 106
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2013-08-19 11:40:10 AM  
www.examiner.com

#STOPOBAMACARE
 
2013-08-19 12:07:48 PM  
I demand that my pre-existing conditions not be covered!

I want my 21 year old removed from my insurance immediately!

And bring back the lifetime benefit limit!

And what's up with this refund check from my insurance company?  This is an outrage!
 
2013-08-19 12:25:43 PM  
R.I.P.D.? What the hell is that?
 
2013-08-19 12:27:32 PM  

vernonFL: [www.examiner.com image 432x648]

#STOPOBAMACARE


i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-19 12:27:40 PM  
What the fark is wrong with these people? They can't ALL be horrible human beings. Can they?
 
2013-08-19 12:28:45 PM  
lel
oi49.tinypic.com
 
2013-08-19 12:28:53 PM  
i91.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-19 12:28:54 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I demand that my pre-existing conditions not be covered!

I want my 21 year old removed from my insurance immediately!

And bring back the lifetime benefit limit!

And what's up with this refund check from my insurance company?  This is an outrage!


More like:

"Our big insurance and finance masters have said this year they will not be able to afford Paraguayan convicts for all of their extended family to hunt at their Christmas retreat, and some of the younger kids might have to double up, like peasants! Therefore, please do not reform the insurance industry."
 
2013-08-19 12:29:09 PM  
There are RIPD memes?
 
2013-08-19 12:29:54 PM  

Serious Black: R.I.P.D.? What the hell is that?


Men In Black, but with ghosts
 
2013-08-19 12:31:44 PM  
Also funny is that if Red Team had suggested it again, millions who would have correctly pointed out that it's a horrible duct tape "fix" that made a broken system worse, and is primarily designed to funnel money to entrenched insurance companies. But since Blue Team did, it's the greatest thing ever.

Funny in a sad kind of way.
 
2013-08-19 12:32:17 PM  
It's incomprehensible how there are so many cheerleaders still rooting for a piece of legislation that was designed to be a complete and total failure in all it's parts.
 
2013-08-19 12:33:53 PM  

LordJiro: Serious Black: R.I.P.D.? What the hell is that?

Men In Black, but with ghosts


Sounds awful.
 
2013-08-19 12:33:59 PM  
Perhaps the best sign of how their campaign is going is this image Heritage posted over the weekend on their official Twitter feed and Tumblr, which threatens to unleash a gun-totting character from a Hollywood film if Congress does not deny health care to the millions of Americans who will receive it under Obamacare next year. Heritage tweeted the image out with the caption "He said #stopobamacare! Are you listening?":


Oh, for crying out loud.  Settle down, Beavis.
 
2013-08-19 12:34:30 PM  
Can someone remind The Heritage Foundation that if it wasn't for them, Obamacare wouldn't exist to begin with?

Oh wait I'm sorry The Heritage Foundation thinks people are stupid and won't remember that.
 
2013-08-19 12:35:08 PM  
For those who are going to try the line "ObamaCare is completely different from RomneyCare/the Heritage Foundation proposal because socialisms": if you wish to be taken seriously, you will need to be specific about how it's different. And no, page counts are not specific.
 
2013-08-19 12:35:21 PM  
Word of advice to any politicians that are planning to have their photo taken whilst holding a blank poster board. Don't.
 
2013-08-19 12:36:29 PM  

BMFPitt: Also funny is that if Red Team had suggested it again, millions who would have correctly pointed out that it's a horrible duct tape "fix" that made a broken system worse, and is primarily designed to funnel money to entrenched insurance companies. But since Blue Team did, it's the greatest thing ever.

Funny in a sad kind of way.


Few blue teamers are making the claim that it's the greatest thing ever. More like, "Ok, we got a toe in the door. Now let's see how to make improvements to it*"

*But eventually going to a single payer or universal health system.
 
2013-08-19 12:36:34 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: It's incomprehensible how there are so many cheerleaders still rooting for a piece of legislation that was designed to be a complete and total failure in all it's parts.


If it's going to be such an abysmal failure, why don't the Republicans just sit back, let it fail miserably and reap the political capital that comes from saying "well, we tried to warn you...?"

UNLESS they're actually shiatscared it'll actually improve things.

/fark all y'all, I'm in the UK
//National Health Service biatches, nunna this half-arsed crap
///which is still better than the shiat sandwich you guys have at the moment
 
2013-08-19 12:36:51 PM  

Koggie: Word of advice to any politicians that are planning to have their photo taken whilst holding a blank poster board. Don't.


You're right, he really needed an empty chair to show it to.
 
2013-08-19 12:37:09 PM  

Serious Black: LordJiro: Serious Black: R.I.P.D.? What the hell is that?

Men In Black, but with ghosts

Sounds awful.


Jeff Bridges needs to get paid ya know.
 
2013-08-19 12:38:03 PM  
Maybe it's not an R.I.P.D. meme.  Maybe it's a Jeff Bridges with a gun meme.

/there's an internet movie firearms database
 
2013-08-19 12:38:35 PM  

Serious Black: LordJiro: Serious Black: R.I.P.D.? What the hell is that?

Men In Black, but with ghosts

Sounds awful.


Maybe they should have gone with a Pacific Rim meme.  You could have a kaiju labeled "Obamacare" and a jaeger named "Freedom Eagle"
 
2013-08-19 12:38:38 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: It's incomprehensible how there are so many cheerleaders still rooting for a piece of legislation that was designed to be a complete and total failure in all it's parts.


Yup, that's Republican legislation for ya.
 
2013-08-19 12:40:54 PM  

Girl From The North Country: What the fark is wrong with these people? They can't ALL be horrible human beings. Can they?


They're mostly people like my ex, who has had comprehensive health care every single day of her adult life, and will have until the day she dies as a retired military person.

They don't really see the problem to begin with.
 
2013-08-19 12:40:58 PM  

PortsmouthFarker: Dancin_In_Anson: It's incomprehensible how there are so many cheerleaders still rooting for a piece of legislation that was designed to be a complete and total failure in all it's parts.

If it's going to be such an abysmal failure, why don't the Republicans just sit back, let it fail miserably and reap the political capital that comes from saying "well, we tried to warn you...?"

UNLESS they're actually shiatscared it'll actually improve things.


I've asked a lot of people this question. The GOP has lied repeatedly about what ObamaCare does, from sending bureaucratic ninjas to Grandma's house in the middle of the night to slit her throat to the federal government completely taking over the entire health care sector. If ObamaCare was already threatening to trigger the apocalypse, I'd think telling the truth would be more than enough to get the most ardent supporters to push for a complete repeal. I've never gotten a straight answer.
 
2013-08-19 12:41:32 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: It's incomprehensible how there are so many cheerleaders still rooting for a piece of legislation that was designed to be a complete and total failure in all it's parts.


And yet, it's still better than what we had before. A baby-step, yes, but still a step. And it's unlikely that we're going to get anything better, because any health care system that's more modern is "SOCIALISM!!!1".
 
2013-08-19 12:42:15 PM  

Mithiwithi: For those who are going to try the line "ObamaCare is completely different from RomneyCare/the Heritage Foundation proposal because socialisms": if you wish to be taken seriously, you will need to be specific about how it's different. And no, page counts are not specific.


Ah, never mind, I see the narrative in the thread is to totally ignore the Heritage Foundation's original proposal and just say "ObamaCare is worse than the status quo ante". Still no specifics, of course, and therefore still just as risible.
 
2013-08-19 12:42:33 PM  

Girl From The North Country: What the fark is wrong with these people? They can't ALL be horrible human beings. Can they?


It's what happens when a segment of the population has been brainwashed into thinking universal health coverage is literally tantamount to communism and the first step in dismantling the American way of life.

They actually think they're the good guys.
 
2013-08-19 12:43:24 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-19 12:43:50 PM  
verkoren.files.wordpress.com

Typical GOP avant-garde trail-blazin'.
 
2013-08-19 12:45:05 PM  

Serious Black: PortsmouthFarker: Dancin_In_Anson: It's incomprehensible how there are so many cheerleaders still rooting for a piece of legislation that was designed to be a complete and total failure in all it's parts.

If it's going to be such an abysmal failure, why don't the Republicans just sit back, let it fail miserably and reap the political capital that comes from saying "well, we tried to warn you...?"

UNLESS they're actually shiatscared it'll actually improve things.

I've asked a lot of people this question. The GOP has lied repeatedly about what ObamaCare does, from sending bureaucratic ninjas to Grandma's house in the middle of the night to slit her throat to the federal government completely taking over the entire health care sector. If ObamaCare was already threatening to trigger the apocalypse, I'd think telling the truth would be more than enough to get the most ardent supporters to push for a complete repeal. I've never gotten a straight answer.


I've been told by a Republican that Obamacare is "an attempt by government to take over our lives".  As if health care would be necessary to do that.  You figure taxation already would have covered that.
 
2013-08-19 12:47:52 PM  

Mithiwithi: Mithiwithi: For those who are going to try the line "ObamaCare is completely different from RomneyCare/the Heritage Foundation proposal because socialisms": if you wish to be taken seriously, you will need to be specific about how it's different. And no, page counts are not specific.

Ah, never mind, I see the narrative in the thread is to totally ignore the Heritage Foundation's original proposal and just say "ObamaCare is worse than the status quo ante". Still no specifics, of course, and therefore still just as risible.


As much as the Heritage Foundation has ventured past the "Thar Be Dragons" sign and into dangerous territory since Obama was first elected, Jim DeMint has taken them to a new plateau where they can't see the sign even with a telescope.
 
2013-08-19 12:48:02 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Serious Black: PortsmouthFarker: Dancin_In_Anson: It's incomprehensible how there are so many cheerleaders still rooting for a piece of legislation that was designed to be a complete and total failure in all it's parts.

If it's going to be such an abysmal failure, why don't the Republicans just sit back, let it fail miserably and reap the political capital that comes from saying "well, we tried to warn you...?"

UNLESS they're actually shiatscared it'll actually improve things.

I've asked a lot of people this question. The GOP has lied repeatedly about what ObamaCare does, from sending bureaucratic ninjas to Grandma's house in the middle of the night to slit her throat to the federal government completely taking over the entire health care sector. If ObamaCare was already threatening to trigger the apocalypse, I'd think telling the truth would be more than enough to get the most ardent supporters to push for a complete repeal. I've never gotten a straight answer.

I've been told by a Republican that Obamacare is "an attempt by government to take over our lives".  As if health care would be necessary to do that.  You figure taxation already would have covered that.



Or, you know, the modern surveillance state, the ability of the government to start wars and send you off to die, the military-industrial and police/industrial/prison complex, or the system that ensures that the rich and influential get richer and more influential, while everyone else gets hosed.
 
2013-08-19 12:49:14 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: It's incomprehensible how there are so many cheerleaders still rooting for a piece of legislation that was designed to be a complete and total failure in all it's parts.


My pre-existing conditions would like a word with you.
 
2013-08-19 12:50:18 PM  

vernonFL: [www.examiner.com image 432x648]

#STOPOBAMACARE


Oooh that's good.  Just add "Republicans want to"  #STOPOBAMACARE
 
2013-08-19 12:51:10 PM  

BMFPitt: Also funny is that if Red Team had suggested it again, millions who would have correctly pointed out that it's a horrible duct tape "fix" that made a broken system worse, and is primarily designed to funnel money to entrenched insurance companies. But since Blue Team did, it's the greatest thing ever.


I feel the ACA strategy was very sound since it leverages the existing infrastructure for financing healthcare (insurance companies) instead of starting from scratch.  Here's a pretty good article from 2009 comparing the healthcare systems in various industrialized nations and how/why they are designed as they are.

FTA:
This is the trouble with the lure of the ideal. Over and over in the health-reform debate, one hears serious policy analysts say that the only genuine solution is to replace our health-care system (with a single-payer system, a free-market system, or whatever); anything else is a missed opportunity. But this is a siren song.

Yes, American health care is an appallingly patched-together ship, with rotting timbers, water leaking in, mercenaries on board, and fifteen per cent of the passengers thrown over the rails just to keep it afloat. But hundreds of millions of people depend on it. The system provides more than thirty-five million hospital stays a year, sixty-four million surgical procedures, nine hundred million office visits, three and a half billion prescriptions. It represents a sixth of our economy. There is no dry-docking health care for a few months, or even for an afternoon, while we rebuild it. Grand plans admit no possibility of mistakes or failures, or the chance to learn from them. If we get things wrong, people will die. This doesn't mean that ambitious reform is beyond us. But we have to start with what we have.


So my support for ACA has little to do with "Team Red" or "Team Blue".  Building on existing infrastructure the way ACA does is simply pragmatic policy.
 
2013-08-19 12:51:42 PM  

BMFPitt: Also funny is that if Red Team had suggested it again, millions who would have correctly pointed out that it's a horrible duct tape "fix" that made a broken system worse, and is primarily designed to funnel money to entrenched insurance companies. But since Blue Team did, it's the greatest thing ever.

Funny in a sad kind of way.


You made that up entirely, and you should feel like an idiot.
 
2013-08-19 12:54:46 PM  

PortsmouthFarker: If it's going to be such an abysmal failure, why don't the Republicans just sit back, let it fail miserably and reap the political capital that comes from saying "well, we tried to warn you...?"


Or why not write and pass bills that will fix problems and improve ACA.
 
2013-08-19 12:55:20 PM  

dericwater: Few blue teamers are making the claim that it's the greatest thing ever. More like, "Ok, we got a toe in the door. Now let's see how to make improvements to it*"

*But eventually going to a single payer or universal health system.


A few have said that honest answer (pretty much none of them elected), but they are a minority.

Rapmaster2000: I've been told by a Republican that Obamacare is "an attempt by government to take over our lives".


Whenever I heard "government takeover of healthcare", I would always respond by asking if they had even the slightest idea how our healthcare system currently works. We spent more government dollars on healthcare than almost any country in the world before this ever passed.
 
2013-08-19 12:57:52 PM  

funmonger: You made that up entirely, and you should feel like an idiot.


Good luck with that.  Shame doesn't exist here.
 
2013-08-19 12:58:46 PM  
imageshack.us
 
2013-08-19 12:59:38 PM  

vernonFL: [www.examiner.com image 432x648]

#STOPOBAMACARE


Muta: PortsmouthFarker: If it's going to be such an abysmal failure, why don't the Republicans just sit back, let it fail miserably and reap the political capital that comes from saying "well, we tried to warn you...?"

Or why not write and pass bills that will fix problems and improve ACA.


The GOP has to wait until they get a Republican in the White House again.
 
2013-08-19 12:59:41 PM  
imageshack.us
 
2013-08-19 01:00:14 PM  
i1199.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-19 01:01:17 PM  

Muta: BMFPitt: Also funny is that if Red Team had suggested it again, millions who would have correctly pointed out that it's a horrible duct tape "fix" that made a broken system worse, and is primarily designed to funnel money to entrenched insurance companies. But since Blue Team did, it's the greatest thing ever.

I feel the ACA strategy was very sound since it leverages the existing infrastructure for financing healthcare (insurance companies) instead of starting from scratch.  Here's a pretty good article from 2009 comparing the healthcare systems in various industrialized nations and how/why they are designed as they are.

FTA:
This is the trouble with the lure of the ideal. Over and over in the health-reform debate, one hears serious policy analysts say that the only genuine solution is to replace our health-care system (with a single-payer system, a free-market system, or whatever); anything else is a missed opportunity. But this is a siren song.

Yes, American health care is an appallingly patched-together ship, with rotting timbers, water leaking in, mercenaries on board, and fifteen per cent of the passengers thrown over the rails just to keep it afloat. But hundreds of millions of people depend on it. The system provides more than thirty-five million hospital stays a year, sixty-four million surgical procedures, nine hundred million office visits, three and a half billion prescriptions. It represents a sixth of our economy. There is no dry-docking health care for a few months, or even for an afternoon, while we rebuild it. Grand plans admit no possibility of mistakes or failures, or the chance to learn from them. If we get things wrong, people will die. This doesn't mean that ambitious reform is beyond us. But we have to start with what we have.

So my support for ACA has little to do with "Team Red" or "Team Blue".  Building on existing infrastructure the way ACA does is simply pragmatic policy.


The current financing infrastructure is what was wrong in the first place.  That along with tax laws that make it impractical to deviate form that system.  Building off of the broken system is pragmatic in terms of getting it passed, not in terms of improving outcomes and costs.
 
2013-08-19 01:01:52 PM  

Muta: BMFPitt: Also funny is that if Red Team had suggested it again, millions who would have correctly pointed out that it's a horrible duct tape "fix" that made a broken system worse, and is primarily designed to funnel money to entrenched insurance companies. But since Blue Team did, it's the greatest thing ever.

I feel the ACA strategy was very sound since it leverages the existing infrastructure for financing healthcare (insurance companies) instead of starting from scratch.  Here's a pretty good article from 2009 comparing the healthcare systems in various industrialized nations and how/why they are designed as they are.

FTA:
This is the trouble with the lure of the ideal. Over and over in the health-reform debate, one hears serious policy analysts say that the only genuine solution is to replace our health-care system (with a single-payer system, a free-market system, or whatever); anything else is a missed opportunity. But this is a siren song.

Yes, American health care is an appallingly patched-together ship, with rotting timbers, water leaking in, mercenaries on board, and fifteen per cent of the passengers thrown over the rails just to keep it afloat. But hundreds of millions of people depend on it. The system provides more than thirty-five million hospital stays a year, sixty-four million surgical procedures, nine hundred million office visits, three and a half billion prescriptions. It represents a sixth of our economy. There is no dry-docking health care for a few months, or even for an afternoon, while we rebuild it. Grand plans admit no possibility of mistakes or failures, or the chance to learn from them. If we get things wrong, people will die. This doesn't mean that ambitious reform is beyond us. But we have to start with what we have.

So my support for ACA has little to do with "Team Red" or "Team Blue".  Building on existing infrastructure the way ACA does is simply pragmatic policy.


I completely disagree that ObamaCare simply built on existing infrastructure in a way that many other options wouldn't. If we wanted single-payer, we already have Medicare (or Medicaid depending on what degree of federal or state control was desired). If we wanted to outright nationalize the health care sector, we already the Veterans Health Administration. If we wanted to leverage private insurance companies but have them sell through an exchange, we already have the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program. Instead of doing any of those things, we complicated things by building yet another system through which people can get their insurance! When people are already complaining about the complexity of health care and insurance, making it even MORE complicated is not pragmatic; it's moronic.
 
2013-08-19 01:03:03 PM  
cdn.c.photoshelter.com  #STOPOBAMACARE
 
2013-08-19 01:04:40 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Dancin_In_Anson: It's incomprehensible how there are so many cheerleaders still rooting for a piece of legislation that was designed to be a complete and total failure in all it's parts.

My pre-existing conditions would like a word with you.


My niece, too. She was born with a hole in her heart and has been on so many medications that her doctors sometimes have trouble keeping track of what they are for.
 
2013-08-19 01:05:38 PM  
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#STOPOBAMACARE
 
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