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2013-08-19 10:58:23 AM
there are intelligent people who believe we are controlled by shape-shifting reptilian overlords who came from outer space

No, there really aren't.
 
2013-08-19 11:07:14 AM

doglover: there are intelligent people who believe we are controlled by shape-shifting reptilian overlords who came from outer space

No, there really aren't.


To be fair, intelligence is separate from mental illness. One can be both intelligent and bat shiat crazy. I would point the time cube fellow but I don't know him well enlighten to say he's intelligent.
 
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2013-08-19 11:22:42 AM
I think that's sovereign citizen stuff.
 
2013-08-19 11:38:45 AM
$117 million? Man, you just got greedy.
 
2013-08-19 11:59:33 AM
There really is a $600 million account set up for each of us.  However, it has a daily withdrawal limit of just $333,464.  I should know, I've been accessing my account for years.  Just send me $19.99 for my newsletter and I'll show you how you can do it, too.
 
2013-08-19 12:13:37 PM

doglover: there are intelligent people who believe we are controlled by shape-shifting reptilian overlords who came from outer space

No, there really aren't.



static.guim.co.uk
 
2013-08-19 12:53:46 PM
www.419hell.com
 
2013-08-19 12:55:54 PM
I love sovereign citizens!!!

Except when they're defrauding people and shooting cops.
 
2013-08-19 12:56:03 PM
So did he have the wrong routing number or something?
 
2013-08-19 12:59:03 PM
Ambivalence:

To be fair, intelligence is separate from mental illness. One can be both intelligent and bat shiat crazy. I would point the time cube fellow but I don't know him well enlighten to say he's intelligent.

Completely agreed.  I work with a guy who is a member of Mensa, but is a nut job.  The other day, I passed him in the hallway as he was talking to himself about the differences between trolls and gnomes.
 
2013-08-19 01:00:37 PM
The thing I've never understood about this "secret bank account" nuttery is...where does the money come from? What is the purpose of the account? For that matter, why would the government even need to make an account in your name? It could just set up any arbitrary bank account it wanted and collect interest forever. And....for that matter, if you renounce your citizenship, why would the US government owe you shiat?

I'm sure there's some kind of a scam involved in getting people to believe this shiat, but I can't for the life of me figure out who's making money or how.
 
2013-08-19 01:00:53 PM
You can also make money stuffing envelopes at home.
 
2013-08-19 01:01:49 PM
FTA: U.S. District Judge Stephen Limbaugh Jr

That's Rush Limbaugh's cousin, FWIW...
 
2013-08-19 01:01:51 PM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: I'm sure there's some kind of a scam involved in getting people to believe this shiat, but I can't for the life of me figure out who's making money or how.


That's because you're not in touch with the reptilian overlords, they've got all the answers.
 
2013-08-19 01:03:44 PM

meat0918: I love sovereign citizens!!!

Except when they're defrauding people and shooting cops.


Another intelligent person succumbs to the evils of the internet conspiracy theory brain drain.

Why won't anyone think of the  intelligent people who believe we are controlled by shape-shifting reptilian overlords who came from outer spaceand HELP THEM escape the hold of a fantasy world that is much more entertaining and palatable than the reality that we're being ruled by highly functioning sociopaths.
 
2013-08-19 01:03:45 PM
sounds legit to me.  so how do i go about renouncing my citizenship?
 
2013-08-19 01:04:09 PM

content.internetvideoarchive.com


Knows all about compound interest from secret bank accounts

 
2013-08-19 01:06:32 PM
I don't think the author's name or likeness appears enough times in that article.
 
2013-08-19 01:07:46 PM

basemetal: doglover: there are intelligent people who believe we are controlled by shape-shifting reptilian overlords who came from outer space

No, there really aren't.



Yes, there ARE... David Ike, THE GUY who came up with the shape-shifting lizard alien people theory (and believes it, here's a great Vice interview with him)

He has written NINETEEN LARGE books, which look into history, politics, economics, biology, etc. etc.

It is extraordinarily amusing, since a lot of those facts are absolutely true and connect in fascinating ways... except when he makes the leap to evil shape shifting lizards, but hey, if that's better than psychotic sociopaths in describing our rulers...  the fun part is he actually believes it!
 
2013-08-19 01:09:43 PM
On that day in February, when a magistrate asked if he was Bryon Cornelius Glenn, the doctor replied, "I'm the beneficiary of that name."
"What's that mean?" asked the magistrate. "Well, I'm not the legal fiction," replied the doctor. The magistrate tried again. "Are you Bryon Cornelius..." The doctor cut him off. "I go by Bryon Cornelius. I'm not the trustee for that name."


I think what's most interesting about this is the way these sovereign citizen people are extremely careful to use very precise language in identifying themselves. It's like they think legal terms are actually magic spells that will alter the world just by speaking them.
 
2013-08-19 01:10:08 PM

EdNortonsTwin: I don't think the author's name or likeness appears enough times in that article.


Joke's on him.  I thought the author's picture was actually an image of the defendant.
 
2013-08-19 01:11:27 PM
Are you a US citizen? I don't know. Let's look up the definition of citizen to check.

cit·i·zen
[sit-uh-zuhn, -suhn] noun; a native or naturalized member of a state or nation who owes allegiance to its government and is entitled to its protection

Well, the supreme court, several federal courts, and lower courts have repeatedly ruled that the government has no obligation to protect you. So, no.
 
2013-08-19 01:14:30 PM
Why would the government be holding that much money for each citizen? If they actually had it, they'd either eliminate the deficit or (more likely) blow it all on another expensive war.
 
2013-08-19 01:15:11 PM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: On that day in February, when a magistrate asked if he was Bryon Cornelius Glenn, the doctor replied, "I'm the beneficiary of that name."
"What's that mean?" asked the magistrate. "Well, I'm not the legal fiction," replied the doctor. The magistrate tried again. "Are you Bryon Cornelius..." The doctor cut him off. "I go by Bryon Cornelius. I'm not the trustee for that name."

I think what's most interesting about this is the way these sovereign citizen people are extremely careful to use very precise language in identifying themselves. It's like they think legal terms are actually magic spells that will alter the world just by speaking them.



That's what makes it so entertaining.  That if you fill out the right forms and use the correct language, you can get $600,000,000.

"Hmm.... well, I guess our evil scheme is screwed.  He filled out form 3984-A/2, refers to himself in the 3rd person, passive voice, pluperfect tense... I guess we have no choice to give him millions of dollars.  Wait... let's get Rush Limbaugh's cousin to hold a trial first, and get some dopey egocentric reporter to write an article..."
 
2013-08-19 01:16:06 PM

NostroZ: meat0918: I love sovereign citizens!!!

Except when they're defrauding people and shooting cops.

Another intelligent person succumbs to the evils of the internet conspiracy theory brain drain.

Why won't anyone think of the  intelligent people who believe we are controlled by shape-shifting reptilian overlords who came from outer spaceand HELP THEM escape the hold of a fantasy world that is much more entertaining and palatable than the reality that we're being ruled by highly functioning sociopaths.


Because that fantasy helps them cope with being ruled by sociopaths and gives them a feeling of power that they otherwise would lack if confronted with the reality that it's not aliens, demons, or the Jews, or alien demon Jews (I work with an otherwise really smart guy that believes the world is controlled by extra-dimensional alien demons that have possessed the Jews, not all of them, just the Jews with power), but instead are regular human beings treating those below them as nothing more than a number, a worker bee producing honey.
 
2013-08-19 01:16:39 PM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: On that day in February, when a magistrate asked if he was Bryon Cornelius Glenn, the doctor replied, "I'm the beneficiary of that name."
"What's that mean?" asked the magistrate. "Well, I'm not the legal fiction," replied the doctor. The magistrate tried again. "Are you Bryon Cornelius..." The doctor cut him off. "I go by Bryon Cornelius. I'm not the trustee for that name."

I think what's most interesting about this is the way these sovereign citizen people are extremely careful to use very precise language in identifying themselves. It's like they think legal terms are actually magic spells that will alter the world just by speaking them.


upload.wikimedia.org
approves
 
2013-08-19 01:16:54 PM
Wanted for questioning:

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-19 01:18:02 PM
I just want 40 acres and a mule.
 
2013-08-19 01:18:10 PM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: I think what's most interesting about this is the way these sovereign citizen people are extremely careful to use very precise language in identifying themselves. It's like they think legal terms are actually magic spells that will alter the world just by speaking them.


Unfortunately, actual law works almost exactly the same way -- just with more bribes.
 
2013-08-19 01:20:46 PM
Non-sequitur threadjack:

The proceedings began in the federal courthouse in Cape Girardeau on Tuesday morning with the usual formalities. U.S. District Judge Stephen Limbaugh Jr., acknowledged the lawyers, Assistant U.S. Attorney Morley Swingle and defense attorney Scott Rosenblum.

Then he looked at the defendant and asked, "Are you Bryon Cornelius Glenn?"


Rush Limbaugh's cousin, if I'm not mistaken.
 
2013-08-19 01:21:45 PM

Ambivalence: doglover: there are intelligent people who believe we are controlled by shape-shifting reptilian overlords who came from outer space

No, there really aren't.

To be fair, intelligence is separate from mental illness. One can be both intelligent and bat shiat crazy. I would point the time cube fellow but I don't know him well enlighten to say he's intelligent.


actually, people who are likely to believe in batshiat nonsense are often of above average intelligence.  See also conspiracy theorists and cult membership.  you have to have some intelligence to create a fiction as interesting and complex as these nutjobs.  stupid people wouldn't be smart enough to believe in something so stupid.
 
2013-08-19 01:23:05 PM

Parthenogenetic: Non-sequitur threadjack:

The proceedings began in the federal courthouse in Cape Girardeau on Tuesday morning with the usual formalities. U.S. District Judge Stephen Limbaugh Jr., acknowledged the lawyers, Assistant U.S. Attorney Morley Swingle and defense attorney Scott Rosenblum.

Then he looked at the defendant and asked, "Are you Bryon Cornelius Glenn?"

Rush Limbaugh's cousin, if I'm not mistaken.


Correctamundo
 
2013-08-19 01:23:49 PM

doglover: there are intelligent people who believe we are controlled by shape-shifting reptilian overlords who came from outer space

No, there really aren't.


You know; President Obama hasn't made his long-form cat scan certificate available for general perusal. He could be a lizard person.

/ I keed
 
2013-08-19 01:24:29 PM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: On that day in February, when a magistrate asked if he was Bryon Cornelius Glenn, the doctor replied, "I'm the beneficiary of that name."
"What's that mean?" asked the magistrate. "Well, I'm not the legal fiction," replied the doctor. The magistrate tried again. "Are you Bryon Cornelius..." The doctor cut him off. "I go by Bryon Cornelius. I'm not the trustee for that name."

I think what's most interesting about this is the way these sovereign citizen people are extremely careful to use very precise language in identifying themselves. It's like they think legal terms are actually magic spells that will alter the world just by speaking them.


That or they think they're Henry Rearden.  It really does give credence to the whole:

"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."
 
2013-08-19 01:25:13 PM
What's a good David Icke book?

I want to read something that embodies everything he believes.
 
2013-08-19 01:26:06 PM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: The thing I've never understood about this "secret bank account" nuttery is...where does the money come from? What is the purpose of the account? For that matter, why would the government even need to make an account in your name? It could just set up any arbitrary bank account it wanted and collect interest forever. And....for that matter, if you renounce your citizenship, why would the US government owe you shiat?

I'm sure there's some kind of a scam involved in getting people to believe this shiat, but I can't for the life of me figure out who's making money or how.


The people making money are the ones that sell books or put on seminars at the Holiday inn.

/ it's like the worst pyramid scheme, ever
 
2013-08-19 01:26:51 PM
If we all gave each other $2, we would all have over $600 million. Some would be stingy and not give the $2, so the whole scheme would fall a part. This is what happens when you have too many people involved in a project.
 
2013-08-19 01:27:30 PM
313.9 million Americans X 600 million dollars is roughly 844 times the sum total of the world's wealth ($223 Trillion).
 
2013-08-19 01:28:18 PM
In 2001, a Supervillain (or maybe it was the Chinese) exploded a Stupid Bomb over the United States.  The US Government covered it up and distracted us from it by staging the 9-11 attacks.  I'm personally leaning toward the Chinese as the perpetrators since the results clearly have political/ideological ramifications and are dangerous to our national interests.  Meanwhile, the government is working on a cure.

Until then, we will have to live the the Sovereign Citizens and the Tea Partiers.
 
2013-08-19 01:28:28 PM

I AM THE GOAT: Ambivalence:

To be fair, intelligence is separate from mental illness. One can be both intelligent and bat shiat crazy. I would point the time cube fellow but I don't know him well enlighten to say he's intelligent.

Completely agreed.  I work with a guy who is a member of Mensa, but is a nut job.  The other day, I passed him in the hallway as he was talking to himself about the differences between trolls and gnomes.


D&D Next is in open playtest, he's allowed to talk about it.
 
2013-08-19 01:28:59 PM

StrangeQ: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: On that day in February, when a magistrate asked if he was Bryon Cornelius Glenn, the doctor replied, "I'm the beneficiary of that name."
"What's that mean?" asked the magistrate. "Well, I'm not the legal fiction," replied the doctor. The magistrate tried again. "Are you Bryon Cornelius..." The doctor cut him off. "I go by Bryon Cornelius. I'm not the trustee for that name."

I think what's most interesting about this is the way these sovereign citizen people are extremely careful to use very precise language in identifying themselves. It's like they think legal terms are actually magic spells that will alter the world just by speaking them.

That or they think they're Henry Rearden.  It really does give credence to the whole:

"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."


a funny counter to ayn rand is:

ecx.images-amazon.com

includes miniature ayn rand in a bell jar, along with mass hallucinations, sharks in the sewers, pschydelic submarines, and a whole awesome set of nonsense.
 
2013-08-19 01:29:20 PM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: On that day in February, when a magistrate asked if he was Bryon Cornelius Glenn, the doctor replied, "I'm the beneficiary of that name."
"What's that mean?" asked the magistrate. "Well, I'm not the legal fiction," replied the doctor. The magistrate tried again. "Are you Bryon Cornelius..." The doctor cut him off. "I go by Bryon Cornelius. I'm not the trustee for that name."

I think what's most interesting about this is the way these sovereign citizen people are extremely careful to use very precise language in identifying themselves. It's like they think legal terms are actually magic spells that will alter the world just by speaking them.


Maybe he is blue and wears a kilt. Or he is a Nac Mac Feegle by adoption.
 
2013-08-19 01:29:33 PM

Shostie: What's a good David Icke book?

I want to read something that embodies everything he believes.


I like Icke.
 
2013-08-19 01:30:17 PM

JesseL: 313.9 million Americans X 600 million dollars is roughly 844 times the sum total of the world's wealth ($223 Trillion).


It's a little bit more complicated than that. According to TFA, when a person is born, the government sets up a secret account for them that slowly accrues (presumably) compound interest. By middle age, the account should reach $600 mil. It wouldn't be $600 million for everyone all the time, and God knows where they think this magical money disappears to when the person dies, or how this wouldn't cause hyperinflation.
 
2013-08-19 01:30:22 PM

meat0918: but instead are regular human beings treating those below them as nothing more than a number, a worker bee producing honey.


That does explain that stuff in my closet.
 
2013-08-19 01:30:59 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-19 01:33:41 PM

JesseL: 313.9 million Americans X 600 million dollars is roughly 844 times the sum total of the world's wealth ($223 Trillion).


But you're not saying that the accounts don't exist, right?
 
2013-08-19 01:35:27 PM
One of the spams I got this morning was from Clik'nLoan. The subject matter informed me $10.000,000 had been deposited for me. Please note that is a period after the 10, not a comma. What appeared as 10 million at first glance was actually only 10 dollars. Guess I could use the $10 to become a TF'er, but who needs the headache?
 
2013-08-19 01:42:06 PM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: I think what's most interesting about this is the way these sovereign citizen people are extremely careful to use very precise language in identifying themselves. It's like they think legal terms are actually magic spells that will alter the world just by speaking them.


The best description for them I've seen came from a Farker who called them a legal system cargo cult. They don't really understand what's going on, but if they perform the correct incantations they can perform legal magic to get what they want.
 
2013-08-19 01:45:58 PM

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: On that day in February, when a magistrate asked if he was Bryon Cornelius Glenn, the doctor replied, "I'm the beneficiary of that name."
"What's that mean?" asked the magistrate. "Well, I'm not the legal fiction," replied the doctor. The magistrate tried again. "Are you Bryon Cornelius..." The doctor cut him off. "I go by Bryon Cornelius. I'm not the trustee for that name."

I think what's most interesting about this is the way these sovereign citizen people are extremely careful to use very precise language in identifying themselves. It's like they think legal terms are actually magic spells that will alter the world just by speaking them.


Basically yeah. They really have no idea what the hell is going on. But they see lawyers and the like saying specific things and they think it is a secret magical language and if you can just say the right things in the right order then the world is your oyster. It is kinda sad.
 
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