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(Dallas News)   Senator Ted Cruz releases birth certificate to prove American Citizenship, learns he is also a Canadian Citizen. Bet the Tea Party won't be too happy aboot this, eh?   (dallasnews.com) divider line 221
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2013-08-19 07:31:35 AM
Nothing to see here. Move along now.
 
2013-08-19 07:56:30 AM
I thought you had to renounce any dual citizenship to be a Senator.  If not, you probably should.
 
2013-08-19 08:27:10 AM

EvilEgg: I thought you had to renounce any dual citizenship to be a Senator.  If not, you probably should.


I thought it was at age 18.

/ex-brother-in-law had dual US and UK citizenship, and had to make his choice when he was of majority age.
 
2013-08-19 08:34:43 AM
so it proves about cruz everything the birthers claimed about obama: born on foreign soil to a foreign father. guess they won't back him, huh.
 
2013-08-19 08:38:06 AM

FlashHarry: so it proves about cruz everything the birthers claimed about obama: born on foreign soil to a foreign father. guess they won't back him, huh.


Totally. I'm holding my breath waiting for the retraction.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-08-19 08:39:37 AM

SurfaceTension: EvilEgg: I thought you had to renounce any dual citizenship to be a Senator.  If not, you probably should.

I thought it was at age 18.

/ex-brother-in-law had dual US and UK citizenship, and had to make his choice when he was of majority age.


Why?  The US doesn't prohibit dual citizenship and I'm pretty sure the UK doesn't either.
 
2013-08-19 08:39:52 AM

FlashHarry: so it proves about cruz everything the birthers claimed about obama: born on foreign soil to a foreign father. guess they won't back him, huh.


This is totally different.  I'll get back to you on how,  I'm sure someone on Fox will explain it to me.
 
2013-08-19 08:41:29 AM

SurfaceTension: ex-brother-in-law had dual US and UK citizenship, and had to make his choice when he was of majority age.


Cousins have duel citizenship, US/Irish. They could make the decision at 18, but decided to keep the duel citizenships. They remain duel.  Also, the article states the only ones who have to renounce are if they are going into the secret service. Doesn't say anything about the presidency.
 
2013-08-19 08:49:09 AM

EvilEgg: FlashHarry: so it proves about cruz everything the birthers claimed about obama: born on foreign soil to a foreign father. guess they won't back him, huh.

This is totally different.  I'll get back to you on how,  I'm sure someone on Fox will explain it to me.


You see, Ted's father was fleeing communism and seeking freedom, so that requirement was met.  Fartbongo Sr., on the other hand, was a swarthy Kenyan muslin intent on impregnating white girls.

See the difference?
 
2013-08-19 08:50:11 AM

EvilEgg: I thought you had to renounce any dual citizenship to be a Senator.  If not, you probably should.


Funny.  Another derpy member of Congress had dual citizenship up until fairly recently - Michelle Bachmann was Swiss.
 
2013-08-19 08:51:51 AM

vpb: SurfaceTension: EvilEgg: I thought you had to renounce any dual citizenship to be a Senator.  If not, you probably should.

I thought it was at age 18.

/ex-brother-in-law had dual US and UK citizenship, and had to make his choice when he was of majority age.

Why?  The US doesn't prohibit dual citizenship and I'm pretty sure the UK doesn't either.


Honestly don't know. It was about 12 years ago and I long ago kicked his sister (my ex-wife) to the curb. I just remember it being a thing in the family.
 
2013-08-19 08:52:32 AM

doyner: You see, Ted's father was fleeing communism and seeking freedom, so that requirement was met.


Yeah.  After fighting for Castro in the Revolution.

But it's OK, only fake secular socialist Kenyan Marxist sekrit muslins count.
 
2013-08-19 08:57:54 AM

Diogenes: doyner: You see, Ted's father was fleeing communism and seeking freedom, so that requirement was met.

Yeah.  After fighting for Castro in the Revolution.

But it's OK, only fake secular socialist Kenyan Marxist sekrit muslins count.


And don't forget how "Ted" is a far less scary name than "Barack Hussein."  I'm pretty sure scaryness of names is a factor in determining citizenship.  It's the law.
 
2013-08-19 08:58:46 AM

kimwim: SurfaceTension: ex-brother-in-law had dual US and UK citizenship, and had to make his choice when he was of majority age.

Cousins have duel citizenship, US/Irish. They could make the decision at 18, but decided to keep the duel citizenships. They remain duel.


How does that work?  Do they use swords or flintlock pistols or something?
 
2013-08-19 08:59:11 AM

vpb: SurfaceTension: EvilEgg: I thought you had to renounce any dual citizenship to be a Senator.  If not, you probably should.

I thought it was at age 18.

/ex-brother-in-law had dual US and UK citizenship, and had to make his choice when he was of majority age.

Why?  The US doesn't prohibit dual citizenship and I'm pretty sure the UK doesn't either.


The US doesn't *recognize* dual citizenship, but, with a few exceptions, it doesn't really care. A foreign citizenship is between the citizen and the foreign power and the foreign power can decide if it wants to recognize a denouncement of its citizenship or not.
 
2013-08-19 09:02:48 AM
I bet he doesn't even like Hockey.
 
2013-08-19 09:07:04 AM
You guys need to understand that he isn't black, so this is totally ok.
 
2013-08-19 09:08:17 AM

Diogenes: EvilEgg: I thought you had to renounce any dual citizenship to be a Senator.  If not, you probably should.

Funny.  Another derpy member of Congress had dual citizenship up until fairly recently - Michelle Bachmann was Swiss.


She is definitely cuckoo.

/aisle seat
 
2013-08-19 09:09:27 AM
Dammed Cuban-Canadian-Americans!  They took ur joerbs!
 
2013-08-19 09:09:46 AM

HotWingConspiracy: You guys need to understand that he isn't black, so this is totally ok.



B-b-b-ut he's Mexican! And he's terkin er jerbs!!
 
2013-08-19 09:09:54 AM
I hate Canadian Mexicans.
They have us surrounded.
 
2013-08-19 09:11:56 AM
Because he was born to an American mother, Cruz instantly became an American citizen.

Ok, so if this is true- and I don't care enough to fact check it- why the hell was there EVER a kerfluffle about Obama? Even if his pregnant teenager mother DID fly to a third world country to give birth, he'd be a US Citizen.

I mean, I know WHY there are birthers- I just don't understand why they got any press.
 
2013-08-19 09:12:09 AM
The only legal funny business I can think of is security clearance.  Otherwise there's literally nothing interesting about dual citizenship.  Unless the laws of country A conflict with the demands of citizenship of country B, you're free to be a citizen of both for life.

But Yankee White clearance requires one to be a US citizen and only a US citizen.  Granted, Ted Cruz isn't presidential white house staff, and therefore doesn't require Yankee White, but I imagine other clearance levels require it too.
 
2013-08-19 09:12:28 AM
Fine. Run.

It will give the Tea Party a chance to show how not racist they are by backing a foreign born candidate named Rafael Cruz.
 
2013-08-19 09:15:39 AM

BeesNuts: The only legal funny business I can think of is security clearance.  Otherwise there's literally nothing interesting about dual citizenship.  Unless the laws of country A conflict with the demands of citizenship of country B, you're free to be a citizen of both for life.

But Yankee White clearance requires one to be a US citizen and only a US citizen.  Granted, Ted Cruz isn't presidential white house staff, and therefore doesn't require Yankee White, but I imagine other clearance levels require it too.


If we could have a Secretary of Homeland Defense who was a dual citizen of the US and ISRAEL- a country who's goals are often diametrically opposed to ours- I can't imagine anyone making a fuss about a half Canadian president.
 
2013-08-19 09:17:15 AM
What part of "IT'S DIFFERNT BECAUSE SOSHULIZM!" don't you libtards understand?

It is ironic, though that Ted is leading the charge against Obamacare since he has two avenues to have free medical care.
 
2013-08-19 09:17:21 AM
We're just asking questions.
 
2013-08-19 09:17:31 AM
Obama - Born to an American woman on American soil = Kenyan
Cruz - Born to an American woman on Canadian soil = U.S. Citizen

Other than the fact that Obama and Cruz have different skin color, where is the logic here?
 
2013-08-19 09:18:29 AM
The Tea Party is a movement, not a party, we favor limited government, states rights, adhere to the constitution..  Cruz is not the head of the movement and should not be considered so.
 
2013-08-19 09:19:23 AM
Not one Tea Partier will have the slightest concern whatsoever about Cruz's eligibility to run for President.
 
2013-08-19 09:19:31 AM

what_now: BeesNuts: The only legal funny business I can think of is security clearance.  Otherwise there's literally nothing interesting about dual citizenship.  Unless the laws of country A conflict with the demands of citizenship of country B, you're free to be a citizen of both for life.

But Yankee White clearance requires one to be a US citizen and only a US citizen.  Granted, Ted Cruz isn't presidential white house staff, and therefore doesn't require Yankee White, but I imagine other clearance levels require it too.

If we could have a Secretary of Homeland Defense who was a dual citizen of the US and ISRAEL- a country who's goals are often diametrically opposed to ours- I can't imagine anyone making a fuss about a half Canadian president.


Except we love Israel!  And we don't respect Canada!
Hashtag dumb people...

I agree.  There's no problem here.  And it's not really analogous to the claims, retarded as they were, that birthers made about Obama.
 
mhd
2013-08-19 09:19:51 AM

UberDave: Do they use swords or flintlock pistols or something?


Irish. Potatoes at 9 paces.

/Or maybe shillelaghs
 
2013-08-19 09:20:56 AM
I'm sure the Tea Party will prove they are big enough xenophobes to hate on Cruz as well.
 
2013-08-19 09:21:41 AM

SamWaters: The Tea Party is a movement, not a party, we favor limited government, states rights, adhere to the constitution..  Cruz is not the head of the movement and should not be considered so.


And yet he's playing the Tea Party like a song.
 
2013-08-19 09:21:50 AM

what_now: Because he was born to an American mother, Cruz instantly became an American citizen.

Ok, so if this is true- and I don't care enough to fact check it- why the hell was there EVER a kerfluffle about Obama? Even if his pregnant teenager mother DID fly to a third world country to give birth, he'd be a US Citizen.


I heard someone mention a change in law after Obama was born which would allow Cruz to be president but I forget the specifics. I'm sure some birthers will cite that once it's explained to them.
 
2013-08-19 09:23:13 AM

mhd: UberDave: Do they use swords or flintlock pistols or something?

Irish. Potatoes at 9 paces.

/Or maybe shillelaghs



Bullshiat. I've yet to meet an Irishman that can walk 9 paces without falling over and passing out.
 
2013-08-19 09:23:16 AM

give me doughnuts: HotWingConspiracy: You guys need to understand that he isn't black, so this is totally ok.


B-b-b-ut he's Mexican! And he's terkin er jerbs!!


He's half white!
 
2013-08-19 09:24:04 AM

SamWaters: we favor limited government


except to tell you what to do with your genitals and who you can let touch yours.
 
2013-08-19 09:26:57 AM
Isn't Canada just a suburb of the Unites States?
 
2013-08-19 09:26:59 AM

doyner: Diogenes: doyner: You see, Ted's father was fleeing communism and seeking freedom, so that requirement was met.

Yeah.  After fighting for Castro in the Revolution.

But it's OK, only fake secular socialist Kenyan Marxist sekrit muslins count.

And don't forget how "Ted" is a far less scary name than "Barack Hussein."  I'm pretty sure scaryness of names is a factor in determining citizenship.  It's the law.


RAFAEL Ted Cruz
 
2013-08-19 09:30:15 AM

ManateeGag: Obama - Born to an American woman on American soil = Kenyan
Cruz - Born to an American woman on Canadian soil = U.S. Citizen

Other than the fact that Obama and Cruz have different skin color, where is the logic here?


that, and only one of those statements is true.
 
2013-08-19 09:30:32 AM

what_now: I mean, I know WHY there are birthers- I just don't understand why they got any press.


there's enough racists that there is a market for racist news broadcasts and you can sell advertising based on that fact.
 
2013-08-19 09:31:38 AM

SamWaters: The Tea Party is a movement, not a party, we favor limited government, states rights, adhere to the constitution..


Right, and I'm the Queen Mother.
 
2013-08-19 09:31:49 AM
C'mon, the GOP has clearly listed who can't run for president:

www.sevenwholedays.org
 
2013-08-19 09:37:48 AM

what_now: I mean, I know WHY there are birthers- I just don't understand why they got any press.


Because it was in the interest of 'certain commentators' (read : Fox)
 
2013-08-19 09:38:10 AM
On the plus side, Cruz's Canadian citizenship gives him access to excellent healthcare.
 
2013-08-19 09:39:08 AM
Pointing out the hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance in the Tea Party is like picking on the retarded boy for failing math.
 
2013-08-19 09:39:13 AM
There are a million reasons why Cruz won't come close to the Presidency, but that isn't one of them.
 
2013-08-19 09:39:32 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: what_now: Because he was born to an American mother, Cruz instantly became an American citizen.

Ok, so if this is true- and I don't care enough to fact check it- why the hell was there EVER a kerfluffle about Obama? Even if his pregnant teenager mother DID fly to a third world country to give birth, he'd be a US Citizen.

I heard someone mention a change in law after Obama was born which would allow Cruz to be president but I forget the specifics. I'm sure some birthers will cite that once it's explained to them.


The law was changed in 1964 to allow for foreign-born children of US citizens (even just one) to be considered "natural-born" citizens; before that the only guarantee of "natural-born" citizenship, especially to children of mixed-citizenship parents would be a US-soil birth.  Thus, it was important that our President was in fact born in Hawai'i, because it was 1961.  Senator Cruz was born in 1970, after the law changed.  As long as his mother was legally a US citizen, if not a resident, so too were her children.
 
2013-08-19 09:40:41 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: vpb: SurfaceTension: EvilEgg: I thought you had to renounce any dual citizenship to be a Senator.  If not, you probably should.

I thought it was at age 18.

/ex-brother-in-law had dual US and UK citizenship, and had to make his choice when he was of majority age.

Why?  The US doesn't prohibit dual citizenship and I'm pretty sure the UK doesn't either.

The US doesn't *recognize* dual citizenship, but, with a few exceptions, it doesn't really care. A foreign citizenship is between the citizen and the foreign power and the foreign power can decide if it wants to recognize a denouncement of its citizenship or not.


My ex-wife had to make a choice (West German and US) at 21.  So, who knows.
/she was very upset about it since she lived in W. Germany until the age of 13.
 
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