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(KTAR Phoenix)   As if the cartoons 'Planes' and 'Turbo' didn't suck enough on their own merits, it turns out they're also horrible for kids because they teach the lesson that you can show up for a competition totally unprepared and still do well   (ktar.com) divider line 96
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2013-08-19 08:08:02 AM
And get a participation ribbon?
 
2013-08-19 08:18:36 AM
Let she who's never written an essay the night before it's due, on a book she hasn't read, cast the first stone.
 
2013-08-19 08:26:24 AM
Cartoons have been sending kids dangerous messages since the dawn of television history.
 
2013-08-19 09:01:27 AM

basemetal: And get a participation ribbon?


s13.postimg.org
 
2013-08-19 09:03:30 AM

xanadian: Cartoons have been sending kids dangerous messages since the dawn of television history.


I know I can tread the air for at least a few seconds when I go off a cliff

And cross dressing and opera go together.
 
2013-08-19 09:07:28 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Let she who's never written an essay the night before it's due, on a book she hasn't read, cast the first stone.


Here's my question : When can a teacher legitimately give a paper an F? A C? If you give me a paper that is unsupported, poorly written, sloppily formatted with horrible misspelling and typos, I should be able to give you an F. And if the whole class gets an F, then clearly, they're all Idiots.

/this is the conundrum of teaching
// What happens when you get a class that is 2-3 years behind the basic entry level for the class?
 
2013-08-19 09:08:12 AM

basemetal: And get a participation ribbon?


Free with your Happy Meal®.
 
2013-08-19 09:08:18 AM
They've been teaching that shiat for years, that rag tag losers with no talent and without any discipline or practice people that that beat people that train their entire lives for things.
 
2013-08-19 09:13:55 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Let she who's never written an essay the night before it's due, on a book she hasn't read, cast the first stone.


I once backwards engineered a philosophy book for a 10 page paper based on the author's commentary on the same subjects in the previous and following volumes and my class notes the morning of.

Got an A on the paper.

BOYAH.
 
2013-08-19 09:16:00 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: And cross dressing and opera go together.


Now I have to go watch What's Opera, Doc.

Thanks for that!
 
2013-08-19 09:16:09 AM
They are, in many ways, the perfect role models for a product of a generation weaned on instant gratification."
 
2013-08-19 09:24:52 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Let she who's never written an essay the night before it's due, on a book she hasn't read, cast the first stone.


The night before? Whatever you say, nerd.
 
2013-08-19 09:28:52 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Let she who's never written an essay the night before it's due, on a book she hasn't read, cast the first stone.


wind up....  whirrrrr.....  THUD
 
2013-08-19 09:31:05 AM
Because when you want your child to learn about hard work, the value of practice, and how to accept losing gracefully, of course you just drop them in a movie theater and assume it's all going to work out.

You know why the snail didn't spend years in the Snail Racing Minor Leagues? Because that'd make for a boring cartoon.
 
2013-08-19 09:38:47 AM

basemetal: And get a participation ribbon?


Thanks a lot, helicopter parents.
 
2013-08-19 09:38:58 AM
 
2013-08-19 09:40:14 AM

doglover: God Is My Co-Pirate: Let she who's never written an essay the night before it's due, on a book she hasn't read, cast the first stone.

I once backwards engineered a philosophy book for a 10 page paper based on the author's commentary on the same subjects in the previous and following volumes and my class notes the morning of.

Got an A on the paper.

BOYAH.


That sounds like it was just as much, if not more, work than actually just reading the book.

/slacking takes effort!
 
2013-08-19 09:45:21 AM
They should have just sticked to the tried and true: the five-minute training montage set to driving rock music.  Preferably right after the protagonist eats a mouthful of humble pie in the form of an ass-whipping at the hands of the antagonist.


/You're the best!
//Around!
///And nothin's gonna ever keep ya down!
 
2013-08-19 09:51:16 AM
As if the cartoons 'Planes' and 'Turbo' didn't suck enough on their own merits, it turns out they're also horrible for kids because they teach the lesson that you can show up for a competition totally unprepared and still do well

But enough about Dane Cook...
 
2013-08-19 09:51:40 AM

xanadian: Cartoons have been sending kids dangerous messages since the dawn of television history.


most disney movies teach girls that all they have to do is be pretty and they'll meet their own prince charming and live happily ever after.  and that ugly people are inherently mean and evil.
 
2013-08-19 09:56:08 AM
I'm just waiting for them to make Jake Norvell's idea for the next Cars Universe movie: Jetsetter, the story of a swan paddleboat who has enough heart and determination to defy the expectations to win a jetski race.
 
2013-08-19 09:57:15 AM
Ummm...I saw Planes. One of the major plot points is exactly how the main character spends his free time practicing being a racing plane and there is even a very long stretch where he seeks out someone to help him train and then, you know, actually trains and improves his flying.
 
2013-08-19 10:01:33 AM
What about all those movies that lied to me about how people would like me for who I really am?
 
2013-08-19 10:01:55 AM

UberDave: basemetal: And get a participation ribbon?

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Oh christ I am saving that image.
 
2013-08-19 10:03:02 AM

nharrisphoto: Ummm...I saw Planes.


ouch.
 
2013-08-19 10:07:35 AM

vudukungfu: nharrisphoto: Ummm...I saw Planes.

ouch.


I have a three year old. He was thoroughly entertained, we got to have a fun time talking about the movie afterward, and I felt much better about letting him watch Planes than Cars 2. Although the movie did make me realize that Dane Cook sounds an awful lot like John Waters.
 
2013-08-19 10:15:36 AM

enderthexenocide: xanadian: Cartoons have been sending kids dangerous messages since the dawn of television history.

most disney movies teach girls that all they have to do is be pretty and they'll meet their own prince charming and live happily ever after.  and that ugly people are inherently mean and evil.


Aand that guys can marry princesses as long as they are handsome billionaire that live in castles and have magic genies at their beck and call
 
2013-08-19 10:21:10 AM

Fano: enderthexenocide: xanadian: Cartoons have been sending kids dangerous messages since the dawn of television history.

most disney movies teach girls that all they have to do is be pretty and they'll meet their own prince charming and live happily ever after.  and that ugly people are inherently mean and evil.

Aand that guys can marry princesses as long as they are handsome billionaire that live in castles and have magic genies at their beck and call


Nonsense. Those fellows are liked for their sense of humor!
 
2013-08-19 10:22:14 AM
When I chose to listen to messages from cartoons, I knew it was important that GI Joe and He-Man were there for me.  GI Joe tried to pawn off some "knowing's half the battle" bullsh*t.  And I know Orko was telling me that helping others is important crap.  But I quickly learned that if I punch someone I don't like in the face, kids will spend billions on toys dedicated to me and my TV ratings will be huge.

You'd all better watch out, because I'm relaunching FarkTV.  All over your stupid faces.

/My action figure will have kung fu penis
 
2013-08-19 10:23:23 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Let she who's never written an essay the night before it's due, on a book she hasn't read, cast the first stone.


Anakin "YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY POWER"
 
2013-08-19 10:25:05 AM

Fano: enderthexenocide: xanadian: Cartoons have been sending kids dangerous messages since the dawn of television history.

most disney movies teach girls that all they have to do is be pretty and they'll meet their own prince charming and live happily ever after.  and that ugly people are inherently mean and evil.

Aand that guys can marry princesses as long as they are handsome billionaire that live in castles and have magic genies at their beck and call


I think Belle was just into really hairy dudes.  The castle and riches were the icing.
 
2013-08-19 10:28:47 AM

Nana's Vibrator: I think Belle was just into really hairy dudes. The castle and riches were the icing.


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-08-19 10:30:15 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Let she who's never written an essay the night before it's due, on a book she hasn't read, cast the first stone.


Pfft.  I've gotten my adrenaline rushes from being in pressure situations in organized sports and in things like skydiving or cliff jumping.  But If you haven't written an essay on an unopened book the morning it was due and achieved a passing grade...well, you just haven't lived.
 
2013-08-19 10:39:59 AM
Having seen only Planes I can say the reviewer didn't watch the movie, or the point missed him completely.

Planes was about 'you aren't born that way'.   that's it.   Dusty worked his ass off after half assing his qualification, there was no 'any one can win' there was 'any one can try'.

Me thinks the tea party got ahold of this angry reviewer.

I didn't see Turbo, managed to dodge that bullet.   I have no idea how that one was, but having to sit through Planes with my kids I was ripping it apart for being pixar-looking but no pixar story line to keep myself a little sane.

I have yet to remember which adult movie it basically takes from, as I've not seen many 'racing' movies.   (Spoilers)

Kid wants to race, practices every night.   Race finally comes to town, he misses qualification, but someone is disqualified for doping.   Finds that rest of racers despise him for being some upstart, gets duped by 'the cool kids' gets hurt, but all the people he inspired help him, last leg is pod race style where they try to hurt him and he wins with something he learned from old racer dude.

That's it.

of course i didnt think Iron Giant was an anti-gun movie but I've been screamed at that topic a few times
 
2013-08-19 10:43:08 AM

enderthexenocide: xanadian: Cartoons have been sending kids dangerous messages since the dawn of television history.

most disney movies teach girls that all they have to do is be pretty and they'll meet their own prince charming and live happily ever after.  and that ugly people are inherently mean and evil.

 
2013-08-19 10:46:57 AM

rubi_con_man: God Is My Co-Pirate: Let she who's never written an essay the night before it's due, on a book she hasn't read, cast the first stone.

Here's my question : When can a teacher legitimately give a paper an F? A C? If you give me a paper that is unsupported, poorly written, sloppily formatted with horrible misspelling and typos, I should be able to give you an F. And if the whole class gets an F, then clearly, they're all Idiots.

/this is the conundrum of teaching
// What happens when you get a class that is 2-3 years behind the basic entry level for the class?


if you get a class that's 2-3 years behind and it's the whole class, or a vast majority of it, you can't keep giving them tests that are 3 grade levels above them.  They're not going to learn any of the new stuff because they're too far behind, and they won't learn any of the old stuff because you're not teaching them.

at that point I would  hope that the teacher would have their one or two kids who are learning at grade level switched to another class and then try to remediate that group as much as possible that year.  Of course, the problem is that he or she won't meet any of the goals set for that year, but I would imagine those goals weren't going to be met in the first place.  Hopefully though, they can finish out the year only 1-2 years behind grade level instead of 2-3 years behind, right?

I question whether it's a good idea to stratify classes based on ability when kids are so young, but in schools that have a large group of kids that are clearly failing, I think it does them a bigger disservice to try to keep teaching them 3 levels above their current level and then just grade them leniently to be able to pass them than it would be to make a curriculum purely dedicated to remediation so that they have a chance to be at grade level two or three years down the line.
 
2013-08-19 10:47:07 AM
 Took my 4 year old to see Planes. All I learned is that the French-Canadian is the language of love...in Quebec.
 
2013-08-19 10:50:06 AM

enderthexenocide: xanadian: Cartoons have been sending kids dangerous messages since the dawn of television history.

most disney movies teach girls that all they have to do is be pretty and they'll meet their own prince charming and live happily ever after.  and that ugly people are inherently mean and evil.


this is why I rather like brave.  No damned prince charming, and while the girl does behave selfishly and makes mistakes, she owns up to them and fixes her own mess at the end.

of course, they've disneyfied her, so now no bow and arrow (a symbol for her independence) and the doll they sell of hers is wearing the tight constricting dress she was to wear for her wedding instead of the dress she wore to go out and be her own person.  How fitting.
 
2013-08-19 10:57:51 AM
Just another of the many things that bother me about the Cars / Planes universe. An engine has a set of maximum operating specs that no amount of training montages will let you go past.
 
2013-08-19 10:58:52 AM

tboucher: Having seen only Planes I can say the reviewer didn't watch the movie, or the point missed him completely.

Planes was about 'you aren't born that way'.   that's it.   Dusty worked his ass off after half assing his qualification, there was no 'any one can win' there was 'any one can try'.

Me thinks the tea party got ahold of this angry reviewer.

I didn't see Turbo, managed to dodge that bullet.   I have no idea how that one was, but having to sit through Planes with my kids I was ripping it apart for being pixar-looking but no pixar story line to keep myself a little sane.

I have yet to remember which adult movie it basically takes from, as I've not seen many 'racing' movies.   (Spoilers)

Kid wants to race, practices every night.   Race finally comes to town, he misses qualification, but someone is disqualified for doping.   Finds that rest of racers despise him for being some upstart, gets duped by 'the cool kids' gets hurt, but all the people he inspired help him, last leg is pod race style where they try to hurt him and he wins with something he learned from old racer dude.

That's it.

of course i didnt think Iron Giant was an anti-gun movie but I've been screamed at that topic a few times


sounds like it's along the lines of Rattatouille.  At the end, Anton Ego corrects himself and says that "Anyone can cook" doesn't mean that everybody can become a great chef, but rather that a great chef can come from anyplace.  I thought that was a nice balance of telling kids that their background shouldn't preclude them from becoming great at something when they grow up, but that they still need to have some talent and ability to get there--it's not enough to just "want it really bad".

I do think that this whole "you gotta want it really bad" attitude is starting to creep into people from my generation.  I don't watch shows like American Idol very often, but I've seen a couple of the initial tryouts that they have where people with absolutely no singing ability show up and honestly think that they'll get through to the next round because they're dedicated and they "want it more than anybody else".  At no point does it occur to them that innate talent, practice, instruction and years of dedication factor in because every movie and cartoon from birth on has shown them that "believing in themselves" or "wanting it more than the other guy" is going to get them there.
 
2013-08-19 11:02:39 AM

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick:  Took my 4 year old to see Planes. All I learned is that the French-Canadian is the language of love...in Quebec.


"Baehhhhhhhhnn" *puffs on cigarette, whips out poutine*

(no one outside Québec will possibly understand that sound but it's Québecois for Bien)
 
2013-08-19 11:12:15 AM

FoxKelfonne: Just another of the many things that bother me about the Cars / Planes universe. An engine has a set of maximum operating specs that no amount of training montages will let you go past.


Yeah, and cars can't talk either.
 
2013-08-19 11:14:01 AM

rga184: tboucher: Having seen only Planes I can say the reviewer didn't watch the movie, or the point missed him completely.

Planes was about 'you aren't born that way'.   that's it.   Dusty worked his ass off after half assing his qualification, there was no 'any one can win' there was 'any one can try'.

Me thinks the tea party got ahold of this angry reviewer.

I didn't see Turbo, managed to dodge that bullet.   I have no idea how that one was, but having to sit through Planes with my kids I was ripping it apart for being pixar-looking but no pixar story line to keep myself a little sane.

I have yet to remember which adult movie it basically takes from, as I've not seen many 'racing' movies.   (Spoilers)

Kid wants to race, practices every night.   Race finally comes to town, he misses qualification, but someone is disqualified for doping.   Finds that rest of racers despise him for being some upstart, gets duped by 'the cool kids' gets hurt, but all the people he inspired help him, last leg is pod race style where they try to hurt him and he wins with something he learned from old racer dude.

That's it.

of course i didnt think Iron Giant was an anti-gun movie but I've been screamed at that topic a few times

sounds like it's along the lines of Rattatouille.  At the end, Anton Ego corrects himself and says that "Anyone can cook" doesn't mean that everybody can become a great chef, but rather that a great chef can come from anyplace.  I thought that was a nice balance of telling kids that their background shouldn't preclude them from becoming great at something when they grow up, but that they still need to have some talent and ability to get there--it's not enough to just "want it really bad".

I do think that this whole "you gotta want it really bad" attitude is starting to creep into people from my generation.  I don't watch shows like American Idol very often, but I've seen a couple of the initial tryouts that they have where people with absolutely no singing ability show up and honestly think that they'll get through to the next round because they're dedicated and they "want it more than anybody else".  At no point does it occur to them that innate talent, practice, instruction and years of dedication factor in because every movie and cartoon from birth on has shown them that "believing in themselves" or "wanting it more than the other guy" is going to get them there.


If they really wanted it so bad, they would have had years of practice, instruction, and dedication. What those people have is an emotion, not a desire.
 
2013-08-19 11:22:08 AM
My kid has been indoctrinated with three simple statements about what things are best in life:

To crush your enemies
To see them driven before you
To hear the lamentations of their women

fark a bunch of CGI jalopies
 
2013-08-19 11:29:14 AM

doglover: God Is My Co-Pirate: Let she who's never written an essay the night before it's due, on a book she hasn't read, cast the first stone.

I once backwards engineered a philosophy book for a 10 page paper based on the author's commentary on the same subjects in the previous and following volumes and my class notes the morning of.

Got an A on the paper.

BOYAH.


You were in a class about how to think and reason, and it seems to have worked. You and three others of any ten thousand.

Your experience extrapolates only to that percentage of the populace. A third of that ten thousand have to be actively restrained from plucking out pages and eating them.
 
2013-08-19 11:38:12 AM
That worked well for me back in the day as a Swimmer.

Barely practiced, but showed up to the meets, in which, I won almost all of my events.
 
2013-08-19 11:38:46 AM

xanadian: Cartoons have been sending kids dangerous messages since the dawn of television history.


Speak for yourself.  I like the idea of wearing a mask that lets me walk through walls and having my gas station turn into a battle fortress.
 
2013-08-19 11:40:01 AM

Nana's Vibrator: GI Joe tried to pawn off some "knowing's half the battle" bullsh*t.


www.othercinema.com

Body massage
 
2013-08-19 12:01:11 PM
Isn't the storyline from Turbo something like : "take Performance Enhancing Drugs and you can be a winner!"
 
2013-08-19 12:15:36 PM

LemSkroob: Isn't the storyline from Turbo something like : "take Performance Enhancing Drugs and you can be a winner!"


No, that was Popeye and Underdog.
 
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