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(Providence Journal)   Tea Party Patriots come out in force after one of their members attempts to burn down a bridge to protest a 10-cent toll. Sign goodness: "No tolls for trolls", "Obama lied, freedom died", "Hooked on phonics didn't work for me"   (providencejournal.com) divider line 29
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3355 clicks; posted to Politics » on 19 Aug 2013 at 7:04 AM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-08-19 07:29:52 AM  
11 votes:
Y'all are posting in a toll thread!

*ducks*
2013-08-19 02:58:14 AM  
11 votes:
dillanweems.com
2013-08-19 06:32:30 AM  
8 votes:

Slaxl: Tolls aren't taxes. They're tolls. A tax is a tax.


A toll is a toll, and a roll is a roll, and if we don't get no tolls then we don't eat no rolls.
2013-08-19 08:37:06 AM  
6 votes:
One of my co-workers is an anti-government type. He bought a house on cul-de-sac at the end of a private road out of principle. Now the road is falling apart but him and the other people along the road can't agree on financing the repairs. The people at the front of the street don't think they should pay for the entire length since they only use the short part to their homes and even for that short part they think others should pay more since most of the traffic is from those living further along the road. His neighbor down at the end of the road doesn't think it needs to be repaired at all because he drives a 4x4 and doesn't mind the ruts and potholes. They forgot their principles briefly and asked the county to repair it. The county agreed to take over control of the road but only if the property owners would grant the county a narrow right of way along the road for use by construction vehicles. Nope... no one was going to allow the gubermint to seize their land!  Never mind they all have acre lots and the right of way would have been around ten feet on each side.

So the road continues to decay and my co-worker's car gets a good workout dodging potholes and plenty of nicks from all the pieces of the road decaying into gravel that gets tossed about by every vehicle... especially the 4x4. It's a thing of beauty and I laugh every time he gets upset that the county won't pave it for them because they're too stubborn to grant a small right-of-way.
2013-08-19 08:11:07 AM  
3 votes:
The best way to fund the maintenance of the bridge is a tax cut for the top1% of earners in Rhode Island.

I can't believe I'm the only one who sees this reality.
2013-08-19 07:12:19 AM  
3 votes:
You gotta pay the troll toll to get inside this boy's soul
2013-08-19 08:34:15 AM  
2 votes:
problama de los blancos
2013-08-19 08:24:06 AM  
2 votes:

Jackson Herring: I've been hearing about this shiat all summer, never once did anyone complaining about the toll deign to mention that it is only TEN farkING CENTS.


Oh sure, it's 10 cents now. But, knowing Obama, it'll soon go up to 20 cents. Then 30 cents. Then, soon, perhaps even a little into Czar Obama - Czar-bama? - well into his illegal third term, in order to pass it you'll have to present a gay marriage license or proof of abortion. It's Kenyan liberal economics 101. There's no time to pick your battles in this culture war. You have to fight every perceived inconvenience, whether real or imagined, and defend it as though it was the worst thing ever. Because knowing that blah man in the white house, it probably will be.
2013-08-19 07:43:06 AM  
2 votes:
Many wore yellow "Don't Tread on Me" T-shirts

You won't be treading on that bridge for much longer either if you don't pay for it, assholes.
2013-08-19 07:32:26 AM  
2 votes:

GoldSpider: The Tea Party ideology boiled down:  "We don't want to pay for things!"


That's tyranny!   If God had wanted us to pay for roads and bridges he wouldn't have put them there.
2013-08-19 07:24:16 AM  
2 votes:

OneTimed: You gotta pay the troll toll to get inside this boy's soul hole


FTFY
2013-08-19 07:15:10 AM  
2 votes:
Every bridge should have a toll. Free bridges are socialism.
2013-08-19 04:56:12 AM  
2 votes:

propasaurus: "It's a working man's bridge," she said. "You stand out there in the morning during the week, as opposed to Saturday and Sunday, it's full of people going to work."

Yeah! And working men should get free bridges!


Now Tea Party "Patriots" want free stuff from Obama?
2013-08-19 10:13:02 AM  
1 votes:

EngineerAU: The people at the front of the street don't think they should pay for the entire length since they only use the short part to their homes


Yeah, yeah, and I should only have to pay for the 4 inches I use, while my neighbor should fork over to my wife fair share for his 10 inches of use.

wait
what?
2013-08-19 08:55:47 AM  
1 votes:
The real question you guys are missing, is the bridge is steel, and how were they expecting to burn down a steel bridge...?
2013-08-19 08:47:29 AM  
1 votes:
Okay, this is all actually hilarious the more I look into it.  Where to start!

The bridge to the south of the one in question is the Mount Hope Bridge.  It was constructed and maintained by the private Mount Hope Bridge Company.  However, "On October 24, 1929, about five months behind schedule, the $5,000,000 bridge was opened to traffic. It was owned by the Mount Hope Bridge Company as a privatetoll bridge, with the initial toll costing 60 cents one way, and $1 for a round-trip. By 1931, the Bridge company went bankrupt, and Rudolf F. Haffenreffer, a prominent local brewer, acquired the bridge in receivership. [...] In 1954, with the company in receivership, the Mount Hope Bridge was purchased by the State of Rhode Island. The bridge's toll was eventually reduced from 60 cents to 30 cents for a one-way trip. It was finally discontinued in 1998, after calculations indicated that the toll was not high enough to cover the cost of collecting it." -source wiki

So in 1954, the state owned it and there were no tolls.  To accomplish this, the Rhode Island Turnpike and Bridge Authority was founded.  Fast forward and switch gears a bit.  In 1966, another bridge was constructed by the private Parsons Brinckerhoff construction firm.  Noteworthy because they also designed and built the Garden State Parkway in NJ.  Hurray for them, amirite?  Anyway, this construction was undertaken by the state, and they appear to have levied tolls, but I can't confirm that.  Only current tolls are available.  But it was also operated by the state through RITBA.

Around this time, 1966, RITBA began construction of the Claiborne Pell Bridge.  Another toll bridge going from island to island.  It was opened in 1969.  Tolls are 4 bucks each way.  Fast forward again!  It's 2009 and the old ass Sakkonet River Truss Bridge is falling the hell apart.  A new suspension bridge is commissioned.  Now it's 2012, the bridge is ready to open, but it was expensive.  The state was low on cash and apparently RITBA was partially privatized by allowing private investment firm VION to bail them out and and become partial owners.  Immediately thereafter, they voted internally to increase tolls on the Claiborne Pell Bridge, with subsequently scheduled hikes every three years afterwards.  They were forced to hold public hearings though, and they were pressured into coming up with a different solution to a nearly 220 million dollar budget shortfall.  They chose to levy this 10 cent toll on the new Sakonnet River Bridge.


TLDR Version:
So to break this down, a private company was contractually required to close a budget shortfall related to the construction of the brand spanking new bridge, and wanted to raise tolls on a completely unrelated bridge to do that.  When public backlash grew too fierce, they changed their mind and levied a TEN CENT toll on the bridge they ACTUALLY NEEDED TO PAY FOR.  And this is tyrannical or something.

Fark these idiots.  They clearly haven't done any of the above research.  They think it's a state decision.  They think this happened in a vacuum.  And they think they're entitled to a fancy new bridge that carries about twice as many people, at the expense of folks crossing a bridge halfway across the state.
2013-08-19 08:42:40 AM  
1 votes:
The answer is to privatize the bridge so the government isn't involved.  That would end any tolls right there.
2013-08-19 08:39:47 AM  
1 votes:

soia: problama de los blancos


Si. Look at all the chingas I don't give.
2013-08-19 08:04:27 AM  
1 votes:
No tolls? No Problem! Who needs to pay for things like repairs and infrastructure upkeep.

i39.tinypic.com

WHY WON'T OBAMA GIVE US FEDERAL FUNDS TO FIX THIS!!!!
2013-08-19 08:03:45 AM  
1 votes:
www.paulmudie.com

What the local islanders may look like.
2013-08-19 08:01:11 AM  
1 votes:

doglover: SurfaceTension: doglover: fark toll bridges. Pain in the ass to stop and pay tolls when you're driving.

EZPass FTW

That's also a pain in the ass. Much less, I'll grant you, but still slows things down.

What they should do is just not have toll bridges. Either make the whole road a turnpike or free.

Then again I grew up in Pittsburgh. If every bridge required a dime to cross I'd still be waiting in traffic from 10 years ago to get to the airport.


As someone who's had to drive from the airport to Greensburg, it already takes 10 years to get put of Pittsburgh.
2013-08-19 07:54:07 AM  
1 votes:
FTFA: John Vitkevich, a spokesman for the anti-toll group, said he knew nothing about the arson and hoped that no one who was working in the effort to overturn the toll had anything to do with it. He said political action, not vandalism, would be the way to roll the tolls back. He suggested that the police investigate whether the arson was done by toll supporters as a way of embarrassing toll opponents.

Oh, wow.  He immediately jumped right to the 'false flag' conspiracy derp when asked about the arson.
2013-08-19 07:40:02 AM  
1 votes:
So they are protesting a 10 cent toll...how much did those shirts and signs cost? Or is this one of those principal things, where you spend $500,000 in legal fees to not pay someone $50.
2013-08-19 07:33:35 AM  
1 votes:

Muta: I hate stopping for tolls.  They should just increase taxes to cover the cost of maintaining the bridge.


This. I'm pretty sure the Tea Party wasn't the only group against the tolls. Bridges are ALREADY choke points. Adding a toll booth or three doesn't help anyone.
2013-08-19 07:22:38 AM  
1 votes:
I thought they were moving to Brooklyn.

www.providencejournal.com
2013-08-19 07:13:56 AM  
1 votes:
A lot cheaper than having to buy a boat to get across.
2013-08-19 07:12:17 AM  
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: Bridges don't spontaneously manifest out of the ether.  They have to be paid for via taxes or tolls.  Personally, I prefer the tax route as paying tolls creates traffic backups and is a general PITA, but somehow I doubt the teabaggers would support that either.


And we're done here.

No, wait...

Bathia_Mapes: [blazingsaddles10centtoll]


K, now we're done.
2013-08-19 07:00:38 AM  
1 votes:
Angie Isadore, of Portsmouth, as she sat in a folding chair alongside the highway, wearing a shirt that said "Obama lied, Freedom died"

Did Obama make a campaign promise not to allow tolls on some bridge in Bumfark, Nowhere?

Even 10 cents is too much for Patty Kelly, of Tiverton, who painted the word "tolls" with an X through it in pink on a white T-shirt for the event. In tough economic times, she said, government should look for things to cut, not new ways to get money from residents.
"I don't get a raise from my boss when I can't pay my bills," she said.


First - not asking for and getting raises could be part reason you can't pay your bills.
Secondly - instead of a toll, howsabout we start the 'things to cut' list off with bridges over the Sakonnet River?
2013-08-19 06:33:06 AM  
1 votes:

SurfaceTension: doglover: fark toll bridges. Pain in the ass to stop and pay tolls when you're driving.

EZPass FTW


That's also a pain in the ass. Much less, I'll grant you, but still slows things down.

What they should do is just not have toll bridges. Either make the whole road a turnpike or free.

Then again I grew up in Pittsburgh. If every bridge required a dime to cross I'd still be waiting in traffic from 10 years ago to get to the airport.
 
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