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(NPR)   American teens used to look forward to car ownership as the ultimate ticket to freedom, and getting laid. Now, they're too damn lazy get a job to buy some wheels, and getting a ride to GameStop in mom's minivan is just fine, even if they're 29   (npr.org) divider line 330
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2013-08-18 10:33:32 PM  
Subby sounds bitter that he has to make insurance payments and spend hard-earned cash on gas.
 
2013-08-18 10:45:22 PM  
I walked to work for 18 months from 82 to 83 to save up for my first car, a  used 77 Trans Am (Bandit with gol eagle decals, T-tops, black on black, the whole 9 yards) and it still didn't get me laid.


It must have been the short shorts and knee-high striped socks that doomed me.
 
2013-08-18 10:52:29 PM  
This article surprises me. I thought Obama had turned the economy around and there were jobs galore.
 
2013-08-18 10:59:02 PM  
Says you subby. 3-ish years ago I got a 1995 Ford Escort LX from my dead great-aunt. I was 17, and it felt like the most liberating thing ever.
 
2013-08-18 11:02:28 PM  
I bought my first car at 21. A Toyota Land Cruiser 4x4..
 
2013-08-18 11:17:59 PM  
I loved driving when I was a kid because I lived in the farking suburbs and it was the only way out.
 
2013-08-18 11:39:09 PM  
After getting my license drove Moms 73 Laguna wagon. The seats folded down. Good times.
 
2013-08-18 11:40:23 PM  
Decades of propaganda aimed at making public transit seem like a desirable way to travel has finally paid off and now people complain about that too.
 
2013-08-18 11:45:10 PM  
If the cars parked in front of our tech support (phone) building are any indication, they use the money they save from living at home to rice out their cars.
 
2013-08-19 12:01:55 AM  
How can a car represent freedom when your helicopter parents still want you to be home by 10:00 and have GPS in the car to make sure you're not lying about where you're going?

/ Things weren't that bad when I was growing up, so I'm only speculating.  Cars have always just been a means of transportation for me though.
 
2013-08-19 12:25:09 AM  
if you look at the study they cite, one of the biggest disparities between groups of kids that have their licenses by the time their 18 and those that don't is their household income, and the biggest reason cited for kids that don't have licenses is not having a car.  it probably makes sense that in the wake of a recession and a steadily increasing income disparity there would be a decrease in teenage car ownership/licensing.

/haven't owned a car in 6 years, sh*t's overrated
//is "i don't even own a car" the new "i don't even have a tv?"
 
2013-08-19 12:27:57 AM  

markie_farkie: I walked to work for 18 months from 82 to 83 to save up for my first car, a  used 77 Trans Am (Bandit with gol eagle decals, T-tops, black on black, the whole 9 yards) and it still didn't get me laid.


It must have been the short shorts and knee-high striped socks that doomed me.


You know, these days short shorts and knee-high striped socks could get you laid if you wore them ironically.
 
2013-08-19 12:28:11 AM  
farm6.staticflickr.com
 
2013-08-19 12:31:30 AM  

markie_farkie: I walked to work for 18 months from 82 to 83 to save up for my first car, a  used 77 Trans Am (Bandit with gol eagle decals, T-tops, black on black, the whole 9 yards) and it still didn't get me laid.


It must have been the short shorts and knee-high striped socks that doomed me.


My first car was a '66 Mustang that my grandpa and I (mostly my grandpa) restored from the ground up.  It didn't get me laid but it was still a biatchin' ride.
 
2013-08-19 12:31:37 AM  
Why bother driving when you can socialize 24/7 on your smart phone?
 
2013-08-19 12:31:37 AM  
well, when i got my first car in 2000

i could fill it up with ~15 dollars a week

now to fill up my car it runs about 40

i know when i was 16 if just going to work was going to cost me ~100 bucks of the ~150 i made a month i would have said fark that and stayed home
 
2013-08-19 12:34:41 AM  
Middle class really sucks now. I drove a god damn beater Taurus into the ground as a teenager, saved up enough to buy a nearly new car at 18 working 3 jobs, drove it to 165 thousand miles till i totaled it after college.Had a couple of beaters after, but could buy a new nicely outfitted fusion at 28.I guess long story short, you should have lived a few lives by the time you are 29
 
2013-08-19 12:38:31 AM  
I'm in my 50's.  Started out with a 69 Ford Galaxie 500 fastback, 400CI, 4bbl.  Gas was 52 cents, 22 gallon tank.
It was a used car.  Kept it until I got out of college, swapped it for a 3 year old LTD, reliable transportation.
Saved, got a 1 year old Ford EXP for fun.  Save some more and then started buying Mustangs.
Had an 85, 89, 95, 99 and still have my 2011.  Start out buying a good used car, not a damn new one.
Then, if you want a new one, so be it, but a program car is the best bang for the buck.  The minute you drive
a new one off the lot, they DROP in price.  Urban dwellers in the BIG cities, most of the time don't really
"need" a car, but out here in the midwest, you pretty much have to have one.
 
2013-08-19 12:38:49 AM  
car story bro

My first car was a rusted up, broken windshield, no muffler, POS Mercury Topaz.  Bought that thing for 350$ cash.  For all its quirks it ran for four years before I had to put her down.  Being a stupid teen, you always gotta see how fast your car will go flooring it.  Got the girl up to 114 in the back country roads.
 
2013-08-19 12:39:27 AM  
Sounds like YOU are working for your CAR, man!

/Simpsons
 
2013-08-19 12:39:42 AM  
Shouldn't you be on a balcony yelling at a Muppet.
 
2013-08-19 12:39:50 AM  
Price to buy and maintain a car has at least doubled from when I graduated from high school in 2004. I had a '95 skylark I got for just over $1500. My brother was lucky enough to get his license just after Cash for Clunkers, and he was paying almost 4X as much for gas and over double what I did for a similar car.

Great work everyone.

FTA:  "My girlfriend drives me everywhere. That sounds sad, and 20 years ago I'd be considered pathetic, but it's almost normal now to be that way," says Mike Clubb, who is in his 20s.


No Mike, you are still pathetic. It's not normal and it's really awkward. Get a job and car or just use public transit.
 
2013-08-19 12:39:51 AM  
Another reason often cited is money. Maynard says the average cost of a new car is about $30,000, before factoring in car insurance. Add in the high price of gas in some places and owning a car is simply too expensive for a young person.

If only there were a way for young people to buy a car that wasn't new. Perhaps one that had been driven by a previous owner.
 
2013-08-19 12:41:33 AM  
FTA : "My girlfriend drives me everywhere. That sounds sad, and 20 years ago I'd be considered pathetic, but it's almost normal now to be that way," says Mike Clubb, who is in his 20s.

"Almost" being the operative word.

This dude needs a car, he just chooses to mooch off his girlfriend.

At least she knows he needs her.
 
2013-08-19 12:42:23 AM  
A car will not get you laid.

A private dorm room will get you laid.
 
2013-08-19 12:42:43 AM  
I've been thinking about going carless, but I have to ask any one who has:  How the heck do you get groceries home?
 
2013-08-19 12:43:37 AM  

studebaker hoch: A car will not get you laid.

A private dorm room will get you laid.


No need for private when you have hangers on the door or roomate high fives
 
2013-08-19 12:45:16 AM  
Wait until this generation finally gets jobs, then looks in the mirror and sees 35 staring them in the face and realizes they never got to live out their youth.

Buy stock in BMW and Just For Men.  You're going to be able to see the midlife crisis from space.
 
2013-08-19 12:45:31 AM  

aelat: Another reason often cited is money. Maynard says the average cost of a new car is about $30,000, before factoring in car insurance. Add in the high price of gas in some places and owning a car is simply too expensive for a young person.

If only there were a way for young people to buy a car that wasn't new. Perhaps one that had been driven by a previous owner.


Seriously.  Look, if you live in an area where public transportation is awesome, great, you don't need a care.  If you live somewhere where it sucks and you need access to an automobile to get around, and you're just bumming rides, get off your lazy ass, earn some money, and buy a used car.
 
2013-08-19 12:46:10 AM  

Voodoo_Stu: I've been thinking about going carless, but I have to ask any one who has:  How the heck do you get groceries home?


zipcar for big grocery runs, backpack for small ones.
 
2013-08-19 12:46:20 AM  

fusillade762: Why bother driving when you can socialize 24/7 on your smart phone?


So that when you finally stumble upon a girl who actually wants something to do with you, you don't have to have your mommy drop you off like a middle school boy.
 
2013-08-19 12:47:12 AM  

Voodoo_Stu: I've been thinking about going carless, but I have to ask any one who has:  How the heck do you get groceries home?


Just push them home in the shopping cart
 
2013-08-19 12:48:25 AM  
So much vindictive spite aimed at the age groups with the least amount of money and power. Previous generations stripmined the opportunity out of this country, and now the kids left with the scraps get kicked around and spit on for not taking advantage of all the opportunities that don't exist anymore.

Seems like a good enough distraction. I mean, as the middle class shrinks more and more, who else do they have left to look down upon to blame their troubles on? Can't have them looking in the other direction along the food chain, can we?
 
2013-08-19 12:48:41 AM  

JasonOfOrillia: markie_farkie: I walked to work for 18 months from 82 to 83 to save up for my first car, a  used 77 Trans Am (Bandit with gol eagle decals, T-tops, black on black, the whole 9 yards) and it still didn't get me laid.


It must have been the short shorts and knee-high striped socks that doomed me.

You know, these days short shorts and knee-high striped socks could get you laid if you wore them ironically.


Uhh, I'm pushing 50 in a little over a year.

Doing that would be more pathetic than ironic!!
 
2013-08-19 12:50:08 AM  
I had a 1966 Pontiac GTO as my first car. It was in a mechanic's garage and had not been running for over 10 years. Not only did my dad talk the mechanic into getting it running, but the mechanic sold it to me for $600. I spent 50 bucks for a tape deck and asked my grandma to crochet me a blue afghan that matched the paint. I broke more cherries in that car than a one-handed sundae maker at Baskin-Robbins. I used to let all my buddies that only had a 'learner's permit' drive it on weekend nights, so I could climb in the back and soak panties & fingerbang.
 
2013-08-19 12:50:20 AM  

Voodoo_Stu: I've been thinking about going carless, but I have to ask any one who has:  How the heck do you get groceries home?


Depends on where you live and available options.

Walk/bike with the groceries if you live close enough. Make the roommate come with if you have one and they want food.
Zipcar works if you need to make multiple stops.
Simple taxi home isn't a bad option if you live in the city or can arrange one ahead of time.
 
2013-08-19 12:52:54 AM  

Voodoo_Stu: I've been thinking about going carless, but I have to ask any one who has:  How the heck do you get groceries home?


Never had a problem with this as my neighborhood has several grocery stores within walking distance (including a 24 hour Safeway.) Seems like it would be difficult if you didn't have a grocery store a short walk away.

If you have a lot of groceries there's delivery options in most areas. Those personal shopping carts are handy too, they sell them at hardware stores, Bed Bath & Beyond, etc.
 
2013-08-19 12:54:48 AM  

studebaker hoch: A car will not get you laid.

A private dorm room will get you laid.


Buy a van with a bed in it.  That will get you laid.

I'm going to buy my stepdaughter's first vehicle.  A beat to hell truck.  She'll pay for gas, I'll teach her to change the oil.  I'll pay for the liability insurance.  I'm thinking something along the lines of a late 80's Chevy half ton pickup.  Preferably with a shiatty paint job, a V-6 and the dents will have dents.
 
2013-08-19 12:55:01 AM  
It can't possibly the end of the cheap energy fiesta and people's priorities change as a consequence?
 
2013-08-19 12:55:14 AM  

Voodoo_Stu: I've been thinking about going carless, but I have to ask any one who has:  How the heck do you get groceries home?


Backpacks. One in front, one in back, one on wheels. Good times.
 
2013-08-19 12:55:16 AM  
American teens in the 50's:

topyaps.com

60's:

www.empireonline.com

70's:

2.bp.blogspot.com

80's:

content8.flixster.com

2000's:

sweetsavageblood.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-08-19 12:55:33 AM  
Thank you, bicycle-riding hipster douches.
 
2013-08-19 12:55:48 AM  
Oh my goodness, things are now different than they were. Oh, what ever will we do.
 
2013-08-19 12:56:59 AM  

markie_farkie: I walked to work for 18 months from 82 to 83 to save up for my first car, a  used 77 Trans Am (Bandit with gol eagle decals, T-tops, black on black, the whole 9 yards) and it still didn't get me laid.


In all fairness to you, the back seat of a 77 Trans Am is tight and uncomfortable.
 
2013-08-19 12:57:51 AM  
I'm 33, and between Car2Go and those bus things I can get where I want.  I walk to work (I chose to live near work, go figure?) so it's really pretty easy and way cheaper to now own a car.  If I need one, there's Car2Go, rentals, U-Haul, borrowing one, etc.

I drove in LA/OC/San Diego/Bay Area/Portland/Seattle to much to want to drive unless I have to anyway.
 
2013-08-19 12:58:43 AM  

Voodoo_Stu: I've been thinking about going carless, but I have to ask any one who has:  How the heck do you get groceries home?


Ooh, or a used* double stroller, the jogging kind (big wheels). Or a bike with a serious trailer attachment.

*used because they're $300+ new.
 
2013-08-19 12:58:44 AM  
FTA: Cars In America: Is The Love Story Over?

Well, if companies don't like paying their employees money, then it's kinda difficult for those employees to purchase goods and services.
 
2013-08-19 12:59:07 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: It can't possibly the end of the cheap energy fiesta and people's priorities change as a consequence?


It is Obama's fault. The Clash for Clunkers program removed large numbers of perfectly good used vehicles from the market.
 
2013-08-19 12:59:10 AM  

AGremlin: American teens in the 50's:

[topyaps.com image 450x300]

60's:

[www.empireonline.com image 300x250]

70's:

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]

80's:

[content8.flixster.com image 359x181]

2000's:

[sweetsavageblood.files.wordpress.com image 394x211]


Can you find the price of a gallon of gas during those decades?
 
2013-08-19 01:00:07 AM  

davidphogan: I'm 33, and between Car2Go and those bus things I can get where I want.  I walk to work (I chose to live near work, go figure?) so it's really pretty easy and way cheaper to now own a car.  If I need one, there's Car2Go, rentals, U-Haul, borrowing one, etc.

I drove in LA/OC/San Diego/Bay Area/Portland/Seattle to much to want to drive unless I have to anyway.


And as good news, since I already mangled the English language, at least I won't mangle anything behind a wheel, amiright?
 
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