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2013-08-18 05:03:54 PM
In other words it's like PE. The talented kids get damned with faint praise or criticism because they've made the cuts for the teams. The rest of the class gets praise for anything including breathing.
 
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2013-08-18 05:24:48 PM

gaslight: In other words it's like PE. The talented kids get damned with faint praise or criticism because they've made the cuts for the teams. The rest of the class gets praise for anything including breathing.


This is nothing like PE. The best student in PE isn't at risk of having the snot beaten out of him on the playground daily.
 
2013-08-18 05:54:15 PM
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That Director has bigger problems than her SRC.  For starters, she has now pissed off her core readership - small-town parents.  She has also gone on record saying she wants to change the rules because she has a kid doing "too well", "hogging" the contest, that she was going to change the rules, but she can't now that people know... that did not come across well.  Third - and most telling to me - her staff dislike her and have so little respect for her that they're willing to say publicly that her decision is "ridiculous".  And give an interview about that.  AND complain to the Board Chair.

If I were on her Board, I wouldn't do anything to her for changing the rules - it's her library, she can do things her way.  But when you are oblivious enough to piss of the entire town and go on the record in the paper acting like a farking spoiled brat who is being forced to share her toys?  Well... she's lucky I'm not on her Board.
 
2013-08-18 06:04:47 PM
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At the very least, his reading will make him at home in Portlandia.
/hot image
 
2013-08-18 08:29:47 PM
OK, I got curious.  Marie Gandron has been Director for 41 years.  In 2005 she was .7 FTE, and the library had a staff of 2.1 FTE - so it's probably her and 2 assistants, all working 28 hours a week.  Her library serves a population of about 12,000.  Her annual budget was $96,600.00.  Her library had 36,400 visits, and circulated 26,651 items.

She hasn't turned in IMLS stats since 2005, though, so that could have changed.

I have to say - the people I've really hated dealing with in my career have been small-ball librarians like her.  And she should know better.  My advice to her Board would be to suggest that if she refuses to apologize and change her thinking, perhaps retirement would be a good option for her.
 
2013-08-18 09:32:25 PM
Reading contest? What's next, see who can walk all the way down the hall without falling down?
 
2013-08-18 09:33:50 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: OK, I got curious.  Marie Gandron has been Director for 41 years.  In 2005 she was .7 FTE, and the library had a staff of 2.1 FTE - so it's probably her and 2 assistants, all working 28 hours a week.  Her library serves a population of about 12,000.  Her annual budget was $96,600.00.  Her library had 36,400 visits, and circulated 26,651 items.

She hasn't turned in IMLS stats since 2005, though, so that could have changed.

I have to say - the people I've really hated dealing with in my career have been small-ball librarians like her.  And she should know better.  My advice to her Board would be to suggest that if she refuses to apologize and change her thinking, perhaps retirement would be a good option for her.


Not retirement, fired for cause for total disregard for her job.  No pension for you biatch.
 
2013-08-18 09:34:37 PM

untaken_name: Reading contest? What's next, see who can walk all the way down the hall without falling down?


Damn, my kids would be out...

/they take after me...
 
2013-08-18 09:35:45 PM
Damnit kids! Quit succeeding. Remember... set the bar low.
 
2013-08-18 09:36:33 PM

untaken_name: Reading contest? What's next, see who can walk all the way down the hall without falling down?


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2013-08-18 09:37:00 PM
Ooh, flashbacks to elementary school. Teachers get all weird when the other kids are listing Goosebumps and Amelia Bedelia for their books and you have The Godfather and Cujo.
 
2013-08-18 09:37:21 PM
Good. It'll teach a majority of the kids that their dreams of success will be crushed no matter how hard they try. An invaluable lesson, really.
 
2013-08-18 09:37:33 PM
Quick! Someone grab the hose to wash out all that sand in the librarians vagina!
 
2013-08-18 09:39:42 PM
tall poppy?
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2013-08-18 09:40:12 PM
I've never understood why kids are rewarded based on the number of books read. It always struck me as missing the point. Of course, when I was a kid my parents had to hide every flashlight in the house or I would be up half the night reading.
 
2013-08-18 09:40:26 PM
When my kids got that much better at reading than the other kids in their group - we made them read harder books, dammit.  If you can read chapter books you do not get to read 10 Dr. Seuss books in 45 minutes and expect to get credit for it.

Good readers don't need incentives to read more.  It's the ones who struggle that need free pizzas and happy meals.
 
2013-08-18 09:40:56 PM
I was that kid back in the day. I had 4-5 times the amount of the next kid in line, because I had no cable or video games for the first 10 years of my life. (Plus, the contest gave a candy bar or soda every ten points, and I was averaging 15 or so a day)

Really, you're not helping the other kids, you're just punishing some poor kid whose only entertainment is reading because his family is poor.
 
2013-08-18 09:43:22 PM

miniflea: I've never understood why kids are rewarded based on the number of books read. It always struck me as missing the point. Of course, when I was a kid my parents had to hide every flashlight in the house or I would be up half the night reading.


I noticed I dropped from winning the contest summer in and summer out in my home library, with paper clippings to prove it of 315 or so books a summer, when I had to start reading novels, and it dropped to around 105, and I stopped caring about numbers.
 
2013-08-18 09:44:10 PM
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Can anybody tell me the difference between morals and ethics?
 
2013-08-18 09:44:26 PM
Someone needs red licorice up the twat.
 
2013-08-18 09:45:00 PM

SavageWombat: When my kids got that much better at reading than the other kids in their group - we made them read harder books, dammit.  If you can read chapter books you do not get to read 10 Dr. Seuss books in 45 minutes and expect to get credit for it.

Good readers don't need incentives to read more.  It's the ones who struggle that need free pizzas and happy meals.


too much pizza and happy meals and they will be too fat to read and just lay down.
 
2013-08-18 09:46:00 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: [i1214.photobucket.com image 166x261]

That Director has bigger problems than her SRC.  For starters, she has now pissed off her core readership - small-town parents.  She has also gone on record saying she wants to change the rules because she has a kid doing "too well", "hogging" the contest, that she was going to change the rules, but she can't now that people know... that did not come across well.  Third - and most telling to me - her staff dislike her and have so little respect for her that they're willing to say publicly that her decision is "ridiculous".  And give an interview about that.  AND complain to the Board Chair.

If I were on her Board, I wouldn't do anything to her for changing the rules - it's her library, she can do things her way.  But when you are oblivious enough to piss of the entire town and go on the record in the paper acting like a farking spoiled brat who is being forced to share her toys?  Well... she's lucky I'm not on her Board.


I think you nailed it.
 
2013-08-18 09:46:05 PM
This sounds like a good premise for a horror movie.  The kind where years after an event a person snaps and goes on a murderous rampage trying to take out the object of their vengeful obsession.  Tyler receives a mysterious invitation to the library to give a speech about the joys of reading only to find the doors to the library lock behind him.  A voice comes on the intercom and says "So you have finally arrived.   You may have defeated me all those years ago but now we will start writing a new chapter in the story of your life.  A chapter written in blood!!"
 
2013-08-18 09:46:26 PM
What a surprise, a privileged white kid with all the advantages stands tall over all the disadvantaged children of color fall behind.

Racist.

Something should be done about that.  It isn't Fair.
 
2013-08-18 09:46:33 PM

Fano: Someone needs red licorice up the twat.


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2013-08-18 09:47:46 PM
longtime reading club winnerbut:

The 9-year-old boy, who will be starting fifth grade next month

/fail
 
2013-08-18 09:48:00 PM

FunkOut: Ooh, flashbacks to elementary school. Teachers get all weird when the other kids are listing Goosebumps and Amelia Bedelia for their books and you have The Godfather and Cujo.


My third grade teacher was concerned I was reading historical World War 2 documentaries. F that hobag.
 
2013-08-18 09:49:02 PM
15 years later:

Man Looks Back on Childhood, What He Could Have Been

HUDSON FALLS - Local homeless man, Tyler Weaver, 24, wears a ragged T-shirt that is so small it leaves his rawboned stomach exposed. Clutching a cardboard sign that reads "Need $ For Overdue Book Fines", he stands by the library collecting change from those who pass by.

"I wish I could have made something of myself," Weaver reflected as he tore a page from George R.R. Martin's most recently finished book, A Dance With Dragons, ripped it into tiny bits and organized them into a line on his hand. "I could have been an author, or a book store owner. Instead I became an addict." He closes one nostril with a finger and begins to snort the page. "I just can't get enough."

Hudson Falls Public Library Director Marie Gandron watches from a window in the library as Weaver begs for change on the street. "That kid won too many reading contests. I tried to tell his mother how concerned I was about it," she said. "She would not listen. Now look at what happened."

Katie Weaver would not open the door to comment when we came to her house. "I raised a good boy, a good reader," she shouted through the door, sobbing intermingled with words of frustration and despair. "Tyler is my good son."

Gandron says there is hope for Tyler yet. "He needs to drop out of these goddamn reading contests," she said with more than a hint of anger. "Seriously. A 24 year old can kick a 9 year old's ass at reading any day of the week."

But Tyler thinks differently. "I can't stop. I just can't. Spare some change?"

This writer could indeed spare it, but chose to donate to a book addict clinic instead.
 
2013-08-18 09:49:56 PM
Thank goodness the liberal democrats are doing all they can to crack down on those horrible librarians. Pay as you go for school, roads, the military? Yes, it's crazy, thank goodness the fark progressives are fighting these horrible librarians.
 
2013-08-18 09:50:18 PM

Fano: miniflea: I've never understood why kids are rewarded based on the number of books read. It always struck me as missing the point. Of course, when I was a kid my parents had to hide every flashlight in the house or I would be up half the night reading.

I noticed I dropped from winning the contest summer in and summer out in my home library, with paper clippings to prove it of 315 or so books a summer, when I had to start reading novels, and it dropped to around 105, and I stopped caring about numbers.


School my kids were in last year did it on word-count.  They had to take a quiz to show they read the book.  My son (in second grade) took top score for his school at 3.5 million words.  Would have had more, but he didn't like to wait in line for the computers they tested on.

He loves doing novels - finished Fellowship of the Ring, and the entire Percy Jackson series before the end of the school year.  Wrapped up Two Towers and the first Dragonlance Trilogy this summer.

He's going to be challenging his teachers this year (moved from Iowa to Georgia) - should be fun.

/His prize for the school year was a nice piece of paper and his name on a plaque
//Local libraries up there gave our coupons for local businesses, some were pretty nice.
 
2013-08-18 09:50:40 PM
Boy needs to head to Rapture, where the Great need not be constrained by the Small. It would be on his reading level, too. AR, that is.
 
2013-08-18 09:51:04 PM
The last thing we should be teaching our kids is that hard work is rewarded.
 
2013-08-18 09:51:10 PM
Prizes were also awarded for the top reader in the kindergarten division, best rock people creations and best coloring entries.

This year's winner:

www.replikultes.net

Seriously though, wtf is a rock person creation?
 
2013-08-18 09:51:27 PM

untaken_name: Reading contest? What's next, see who can walk all the way down the hall without falling down?


Spoken like someone who can't wait for the next reality TV show.
 
2013-08-18 09:52:20 PM
What is this "library" you speak of?
 
2013-08-18 09:52:21 PM

tetsoushima: [076dd0a50e0c1255009e-bd4b8aabaca29897bc751dfaf75b290c.r40.cf1.rackcd n .com image 720x368]
Can anybody tell me the difference between morals and ethics?


Why, yes. I can.

But you probably wouldn't agree.
 
2013-08-18 09:52:47 PM

PapaChester: FunkOut: Ooh, flashbacks to elementary school. Teachers get all weird when the other kids are listing Goosebumps and Amelia Bedelia for their books and you have The Godfather and Cujo.

My third grade teacher was concerned I was reading historical World War 2 documentaries. F that hobag.


No kidding. I'm glad I had no one around like that when I got obssessed with mummification.
 
2013-08-18 09:53:31 PM

untaken_name: Reading contest? What's next, see who can walk all the way down the hall without falling down?


Hey, as long as it promotes reading, they can have all the contests they want for all I care.

That said, I can sorta understand the lady's concern. It's not a very entertaining contest when the same guy always scores an easy victory.
 
2013-08-18 09:54:03 PM

IronTom: SavageWombat: When my kids got that much better at reading than the other kids in their group - we made them read harder books, dammit.  If you can read chapter books you do not get to read 10 Dr. Seuss books in 45 minutes and expect to get credit for it.

Good readers don't need incentives to read more.  It's the ones who struggle that need free pizzas and happy meals.

too much pizza and happy meals and they will be too fat to read and just lay down.


I was a good reader. I still took the free pizzas that Pizza Hut gave out from BOOK IT
.
 
2013-08-18 09:54:18 PM
the kid, the mother and the librarian all sound like real pieces of work.

let the little know it all have his first place, patronize his already inflated ego and put him on his way, and find some other way to encourage the other kids
 
2013-08-18 09:54:34 PM

WhoopAssWayne: Thank goodness the liberal democrats are doing all they can to crack down on those horrible librarians. Pay as you go for school, roads, the military? Yes, it's crazy, thank goodness the fark progressives are fighting these horrible librarians.


You probably filter the Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show through your partisan political lens, don't you?
 
2013-08-18 09:55:42 PM
Gandron further told the reporter she planned to change the rules of the contest so that instead of giving prizes to the children who read the most books, she would draw names out of a hat and declare winners that way.

This country in a nutshell

/and is it that farking difficult to list your location at the top of the website for your shiatty farking local newspaper?
//yes, I mad
///your blog sucks
 
2013-08-18 09:56:24 PM

Coolfusis: I was that kid back in the day. I had 4-5 times the amount of the next kid in line, because I had no cable or video games for the first 10 years of my life. (Plus, the contest gave a candy bar or soda every ten points, and I was averaging 15 or so a day)

Really, you're not helping the other kids, you're just punishing some poor kid whose only entertainment is reading because his family is poor.


thank you. I live in one of the poorer areas of the country and it really hurts me to see asshole tea party farks trying to defund libraries. I see so many bright eyed kids walking down the street who I *know* have barely a chance because of A)where they were born, and B)who they were born too. It physically hurts, I wish I could do something to help out, but no, the rich would rather have a permanent underclass with no hope of mobility, and they convinced a significant portion of that underclass to thank them for it.
 
2013-08-18 09:56:40 PM
10 books a week? What were they Jack Chick pamphlets?
 
2013-08-18 09:56:50 PM
Oh god, this gave me a flashback to fourth grade, when the librarian determined I couldn't possibly be capable of reading all the books I had listed for my contest books, so she called me a liar and a cheat in front of my classmates and made me cry. She also told me I wasn't allowed to check those books out anymore and that I had to read the books that were appropriate for my reading level.

My mother and my teacher met with her later that day, and I do not believe to this day that I have ever seen my mother that HULK SMASH angry.

Never had problems checking out a book again.
 
2013-08-18 09:56:52 PM
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2013-08-18 09:57:29 PM

untaken_name: Reading contest? What's next, see who can walk all the way down the hall without falling down?


orcz.com

Well done! Your ability to walk short distances without dying will be Handsome Jack's Downfall!
 
2013-08-18 09:58:00 PM

Dead for Tax Reasons: the kid, the mother and the librarian all sound like real pieces of work.

let the little know it all have his first place, patronize his already inflated ego and put him on his way, and find some other way to encourage the other kids


Easy answer:

First Prize : A fine certificate, suitable for framing.

Second through Fifth prizes :  Stuff kids want to win.
 
2013-08-18 09:58:20 PM
This is one of the most ridiculous things I've read recently...that director needs fired.

That said, the kid's already at least one grade level ahead.  I see a future Sheldon Cooper in the making.
 
2013-08-18 09:58:21 PM

fusillade762: Prizes were also awarded for the top reader in the kindergarten division, best rock people creations and best coloring entries.

This year's winner:

[www.replikultes.net image 850x507]

Seriously though, wtf is a rock person creation?



Galaxy Quest always wins
 
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