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(Pro Football Talk)   Houston Texans rookie D.J. Swearinger says he went low on Dustin Keller and ended his season because the rules made him - "In this league you've got to go low...if I go high, I get a fine"   (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com) divider line 51
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2013-08-18 02:36:36 PM
Farkin Swearinger
 
2013-08-18 02:38:50 PM
All in all, have helmets caused more harm than they prevented?
 
2013-08-18 02:57:36 PM
Or you could, you know, learn how to tackle properly and not just lunge at a guy at full speed to stop him.

\between that and guys who spend half the game swatting at the ball instead of tackling...
 
2013-08-18 03:22:10 PM
Looked like a perfectly legal, clean hit to me.  Keller's leg just bent the wrong way.  If you don't like it, make it illegal and hamstring defenses even more so that quarterbacks can set new passing records every year.
 
2013-08-18 04:27:30 PM

FriarReb98: Or you could, you know, learn how to tackle properly and not just lunge at a guy at full speed to stop him.

\between that and guys who spend half the game swatting at the ball instead of tackling...


That swatting made Dallas turn the ball over a LOT.
 
2013-08-18 04:31:39 PM
farkin c@cksucker!
 
2013-08-18 04:36:19 PM
i.lv3.hbo.com

Swidgin'!
 
2013-08-18 04:38:08 PM
"The rules say you can't hit high so I went low and I'm sorry that happened. I would think you'd rather have more concussions than leg injuries. Leg injury, you can't come back from that. A concussion, you be back in a couple in a couple of weeks."

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2013-08-18 04:39:57 PM
I don't see what the big deal is.  His main contribution to society isn't going to come from thinking.
 
2013-08-18 04:39:57 PM
"If you go high, you are going to get a fine."

www.tokeofthetown.com

/knows what he's talking about
 
2013-08-18 04:55:52 PM

Dead for Tax Reasons: "If you go high, you are going to get a fine."



/knows what he's talking about


Never gets old
 
2013-08-18 05:00:55 PM
When I saw the hit, it reminded me of the hit that tore Lattimore's knee. Clean hit, just bad luck on the part of the ball carrier. These things happen in football.
 
2013-08-18 05:09:59 PM
On the bright side, now Keller doesn't have to wear that embarrassingly gay uniform all season.
 
2013-08-18 05:11:38 PM

Hoban Washburne: Looked like a perfectly legal, clean hit to me.  Keller's leg just bent the wrong way.  If you don't like it, make it illegal and hamstring defenses even more so that quarterbacks can set new passing records every year.


This is relevant to Goodell's interests.
 
2013-08-18 05:17:36 PM
Make it so everyone carries two cans of silly string.  An opposing player is considered tackled when he gets hit with the silly string.
 
2013-08-18 05:18:02 PM
I went to the game and knew it was bad the instant I saw the hit.... And this was going to be Keller's big chance to set himself up for a big free agent contract next year... With Fasano gone (who I like), I actually had some hope that Keller would do well this season...

Phins generally looked terrible last night. Lot's of stupid penalties, no blocking, repetitive play calling...

and yes, pc_gator, I too really dislike the new uniforms

/phins fan. go phins.
 
2013-08-18 05:23:05 PM
What a crock of shiat. He dove head first at the kid's knee and didn't attempt to wrap up or anything (his arms were down...no attempt to wrap up)...it was a completely helmet-led dive and his justification that it was because of the rules is bullshiat.

What he SHOULD have done was hit him in the torso or at the thigh level with arms extended and then wrapped him up.
 
2013-08-18 05:34:57 PM

foo monkey: Make it so everyone carries two cans of silly string.  An opposing player is considered tackled when he gets hit with the silly string.


I like the theory, but instead of silly string, what about paintball blunderbusses?
 
2013-08-18 05:35:49 PM
Or maybe it was because he got embarrassed by an undrafted FA rookie in their first game and it's easier to take out the knees than learn how to actually tackle.
 
2013-08-18 05:36:32 PM

foo monkey: Make it so everyone carries two cans of silly string.  An opposing player is considered tackled when he gets hit with the silly string.


For the whole game?  What sized cans are we talking about, here?

Strategic conservation of the silly string.
 
2013-08-18 05:36:36 PM

Coach_J: What a crock of shiat. He dove head first at the kid's knee and didn't attempt to wrap up or anything (his arms were down...no attempt to wrap up)...it was a completely helmet-led dive and his justification that it was because of the rules is bullshiat.

What he SHOULD have done was hit him in the torso or at the thigh level with arms extended and then wrapped him up.




Nothing gets me more riles up about football highlights when they show a devstating hit that is just a diving shoulder at a ballcarrier, because they never show you the 6 other times the guy dove at someone to make a tackle, and his target just sideswipes him or bounces off his shoulder. Use your damn arms and wrap him up!,
 
2013-08-18 05:37:09 PM

Lost Thought 00: foo monkey: Make it so everyone carries two cans of silly string.  An opposing player is considered tackled when he gets hit with the silly string.

I like the theory, but instead of silly string, what about paintball blunderbusses?


Too violent.  Gotta be silly string.  Think of the children.
 
2013-08-18 05:37:59 PM

wjllope: I went to the game and knew it was bad the instant I saw the hit.... And this was going to be Keller's big chance to set himself up for a big free agent contract next year... With Fasano gone (who I like), I actually had some hope that Keller would do well this season...

Phins generally looked terrible last night. Lot's of stupid penalties, no blocking, repetitive play calling...

and yes, pc_gator, I too really dislike the new uniforms

/phins fan. go phins.


I don't think anybody likes the uniforms. Maybe the firm that designed them made them bad purposefully so that in 2 years they can get paid to make them more "traditional."
 
2013-08-18 05:40:13 PM

ten foiled hats: foo monkey: Make it so everyone carries two cans of silly string.  An opposing player is considered tackled when he gets hit with the silly string.

For the whole game?  What sized cans are we talking about, here?

Strategic conservation of the silly string.


Two standard 400ft cans.  Players have to reserve them for actual tackle-tastic situations.  If you run out, you have to spend the rest of the game in time-out for excessive silliness.
 
2013-08-18 05:54:18 PM

StRalphTheLiar: Or maybe it was because he got embarrassed by an undrafted FA rookie in their first game and it's easier to take out the knees than learn how to actually tackle.


Totally embarrassed. That guy he tried to tackle juked him right out of his shoes!
Actually, Swearinger just missed the tackle and the ballcarrier had little to do with it and happened to be lucky he missed.
 
2013-08-18 06:14:23 PM

wjllope: I went to the game and knew it was bad the instant I saw the hit.... And this was going to be Keller's big chance to set himself up for a big free agent contract next year... With Fasano gone (who I like), I actually had some hope that Keller would do well this season...

Phins generally looked terrible last night. Lot's of stupid penalties, no blocking, repetitive play calling...

and yes, pc_gator, I too really dislike the new uniforms

/phins fan. go phins.


When I saw the first phins game of the pre-season at my friends house it was on an older console non HD TV and the uniforms looked powder blue almost Carolina blue and I was like WTF happened to their uniforms?  Then I went home and caught the second half on my own HD TV and the color was right  and the unis still sucked.  The logo is pretty awful too.

/Bucs fan from way back in the creamsicle days so I really dont have room to talk about other teams unis.
 
2013-08-18 06:14:53 PM

Ivandrago: StRalphTheLiar: Or maybe it was because he got embarrassed by an undrafted FA rookie in their first game and it's easier to take out the knees than learn how to actually tackle.

Totally embarrassed. That guy he tried to tackle juked him right out of his shoes!
Actually, Swearinger just missed the tackle and the ballcarrier had little to do with it and happened to be lucky he missed.


He "just missed the tackle" because he tried a pansy little arm flail. Since that didn't work, he's now resorting to low blows... because he doesn't know how to properly tackle!
 
2013-08-18 06:22:49 PM
With the Richie Incogonito hit on Cushing last year and now this one...It'll be interesting to see what'll happen the next time they play.  Will someone get shivved?
 
2013-08-18 06:23:41 PM
Anyone have a link to the video?

(For research)
 
2013-08-18 06:25:40 PM
Players are taught to take out the knees of players too big to wrap up. Keller is a big tight end.
 
2013-08-18 06:25:42 PM

Coach_J: What a crock of shiat. He dove head first at the kid's knee and didn't attempt to wrap up or anything (his arms were down...no attempt to wrap up)...it was a completely helmet-led dive and his justification that it was because of the rules is bullshiat.

What he SHOULD have done was hit him in the torso or at the thigh level with arms extended and then wrapped him up.


That. Mind you, according to the video, if he hit him in the torso or at the thigh level, it might well have been pass interference. He was too early on that hit.
 
2013-08-18 06:26:01 PM
 
2013-08-18 06:36:23 PM
Oh ouch. Knees shouldn't bend like that.
 
2013-08-18 06:58:37 PM
How did Coach J find time to comment on Fark with his expertise in teaching defensive players how to hit and always second guess how to stop a ball carrier?
 
2013-08-18 07:26:31 PM
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2013-08-18 07:40:48 PM
Just not that interested in the NFL any more. The pointless career-threatening injuries, coupled with the contract structures & the lack of life skills on a lot of the players parts... it's like a giant train wreck. At least there's only one LiLo.
 
2013-08-18 07:48:23 PM
Of course, they could just learn how to tackle from Rugby players and avoid that.... for the most part.
 
2013-08-18 08:00:17 PM

Dinobot: Of course, they could just learn how to tackle from Rugby players and avoid that.... for the most part.


As long as they have the current pad/helmet setup, the most effective way to tackle is to drive your facemask through the ball carrier's chest and wrap up.  I wouldn't recommend that without a helmet.
 
2013-08-18 08:02:48 PM

legion_of_doo: Just not that interested in the NFL any more. The pointless career-threatening injuries, coupled with the contract structures & the lack of life skills on a lot of the players parts... it's like a giant train wreck. At least there's only one LiLo.


Well, bye
 
2013-08-18 08:04:59 PM

Hoban Washburne: As long as they have the current pad/helmet setup, the most effective way to tackle is to drive your facemask through the ball carrier's chest and wrap up.


And all the ball carrier has to do is lower his upper body/shoulder just before the hit. Suddenly the tackler's head is hitting the ball carrier's shoulder/neck area.

/instant penalty and probable fine.
 
2013-08-18 08:09:41 PM
He's absolutely correct- you can't go high without risking a fine, so fark it, go low. Play within the confines of the rules until the rules get changed.

Frankly, football is a violent sport, and the newer rules are just making it more, not less dangerous.
 
2013-08-18 08:12:14 PM

stilted: And all the ball carrier has to do is lower his upper body/shoulder just before the hit. Suddenly the tackler's head is hitting the ball carrier's shoulder/neck area.

/instant penalty and probable fine.


Absolutely, and I think that's bullshiat.
 
2013-08-18 08:17:08 PM
when i heard it was the acl, mcl, lcl and knee dislocation, my first thought was 'that is exactly what lattimore had'.  I think lattimore avoided nerve damage.  sounds extremely painful, though.
 
2013-08-18 08:46:07 PM

AceThunder: How did Coach J find time to comment on Fark with his expertise in teaching defensive players how to hit and always second guess how to stop a ball carrier?


I was able to fit it because two-a-days for my high school team, that I've been the Head Coach and Defensive Coordinator for 11 years, don't start until tomorrow and since I'm fully employed, I'm no longer a 2-year Graduate Assistant QC Coach for the Linebackers at IU.

And today, unlike last weekend, I don't have any duties as a volunteer Player Safety Coach for USA Football when I, along with other PSC USA Football volunteers ran Coaching Football Fundamental/Heads Up Football seminars for various SE Michigan youth football coaches and parents.

Thanks for your concern about my busy schedule.
 
2013-08-18 09:41:13 PM
Shockingly, someone tries to deflect blame after getting in trouble for a negligent-at-best play onto an unpopular rule.

This NEVER happens.

/oh wait, it happens every f*cking time anyone gets in trouble for anything
//like how it's the NCAA's fault Manziel can't stop taking money that makes him ineligible or just acting like a jackass in general
///or everyone in the world's fault A-Rod takes steroids
////or how A-Rod's the reason MLB can't actually ever catch anyone with their drug testing
 
2013-08-18 10:02:17 PM

foo monkey: ten foiled hats: foo monkey: Make it so everyone carries two cans of silly string.  An opposing player is considered tackled when he gets hit with the silly string.

For the whole game?  What sized cans are we talking about, here?

Strategic conservation of the silly string.

Two standard 400ft cans.  Players have to reserve them for actual tackle-tastic situations.  If you run out, you have to spend the rest of the game in time-out for excessive silliness.



I like the idea, but the aerosols in the spray cans will eventually be a banned substance when the special team guys get bored and start huffing.
 
2013-08-18 11:36:29 PM

Your Average Witty Fark User: He's absolutely correct- you can't go high without risking a fine, so fark it, go low. Play within the confines of the rules until the rules get changed.


given he had a lot of area to work with above the knee to avoid hitting high, he's just making excuses for a completely unjustified hit.
 
2013-08-19 12:49:42 AM

FriarReb98: Or you could, you know, learn how to tackle properly and not just lunge at a guy at full speed to stop him.

\between that and guys who spend half the game swatting at the ball instead of tackling...


In all honesty even some clean tackles get called or defenseless receiver penalties

Not sure how they will fix this
 
2013-08-19 07:19:14 AM

Coach_J: AceThunder: How did Coach J find time to comment on Fark with his expertise in teaching defensive players how to hit and always second guess how to stop a ball carrier?

I was able to fit it because two-a-days for my high school team, that I've been the Head Coach and Defensive Coordinator for 11 years, don't start until tomorrow and since I'm fully employed, I'm no longer a 2-year Graduate Assistant QC Coach for the Linebackers at IU.

And today, unlike last weekend, I don't have any duties as a volunteer Player Safety Coach for USA Football when I, along with other PSC USA Football volunteers ran Coaching Football Fundamental/Heads Up Football seminars for various SE Michigan youth football coaches and parents.

Thanks for your concern about my busy schedule.


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2013-08-19 09:44:15 AM

Coach_J: AceThunder: How did Coach J find time to comment on Fark with his expertise in teaching defensive players how to hit and always second guess how to stop a ball carrier?

I was able to fit it because two-a-days for my high school team, that I've been the Head Coach and Defensive Coordinator for 11 years, don't start until tomorrow and since I'm fully employed, I'm no longer a 2-year Graduate Assistant QC Coach for the Linebackers at IU.

And today, unlike last weekend, I don't have any duties as a volunteer Player Safety Coach for USA Football when I, along with other PSC USA Football volunteers ran Coaching Football Fundamental/Heads Up Football seminars for various SE Michigan youth football coaches and parents.

Thanks for your concern about my busy schedule.

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