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(Opposing Views)   Virginia police defending electronic sign that tells drivers "Don't hit the car in front of you." Thanks for the message Captain Obvious. By the way, that sign cost taxpayers about $13,000   (opposingviews.com) divider line 103
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2013-08-18 01:58:47 PM
It's an electronic sign. It doesn't cost $13,000 EVERY TIME IT'S USED! This is why nobody listens when the "Right" claims government waste. Save your whining for real issues.
 
2013-08-18 02:23:19 PM
"noting it's a high-accident area and the bulk are rear-end collisions. Previous signs with more subtle messages didn't work, he said. "

So this one will clearly work.
 
2013-08-18 02:25:18 PM
If that'll make people consider their distance to the car in front, it works.
 
2013-08-18 02:26:41 PM
At least the sign can be later repurposed with new and more sensible messages at a minimal cost.

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2013-08-18 02:28:19 PM

olddeegee: It's an electronic sign. It doesn't cost $13,000 EVERY TIME IT'S USED! This is why nobody listens when the "Right" claims government waste. Save your whining for real issues.


You know what's not in the article?  Rightwingers claiming it costs $13,000 every time it's used.

You know what is in the article?  Taxpayer wondering why a $13,000 sign is being used for obvious messages.  The purchasers could have a)saved $13,000 and assumed people would know not to intentionally hit the car in front of them or b) spent $13,000 and used the sign for actual, informative messages.
 
2013-08-18 02:30:27 PM
We have one that occasionally says, "high smog levels today. Please carpool or take the bus."
Sign, I'm in a traffic jam. What am I gonna do, pull the keys and walk over to that bus?

Anyway, I kinda like this. They should also post "Quit f*cking wrecking. God."
 
2013-08-18 02:31:10 PM
Should read "PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS"
 
2013-08-18 02:31:33 PM

spawn73: If that'll make people consider their distance to the car in front, it works.


This. I don't know if you've had the pleasure of being out in the general populace recently. It's bad. As in beyond-stupid bad.

People looking at you blankly when you say 'Use the spoon to put toppings on your yogurt, not your fist' bad.

Being proud and stupid doing 55 in the passing lane bad.

I'm not surprised. Soon it'll be 'remember to go to bed' and 'wipe ass after pooping' signs everywhere.
 
2013-08-18 02:31:52 PM
Rush hour isn't such a pain in the ass due to the volume of cars, it's due to the 1-3 idiots every morning and evening that can't manage to drive 15 miles of straight highway without flipping their car or running into the car in front of them.

All I'm saying is that for people like I mentioned, the sign  might actually help. But given the reluctance of many folks to actually be bothered to pay a minimum amount of attention when behind the wheel, they'd probably never notice the sign was there.

/been driving over half my life
//have yet to hit anything, much less an occupied vehicle
 
2013-08-18 02:32:39 PM
Laugh all you want but that sign will probably actually work on some levels.  People read it, think about it, joke about it.  But now they are probably paying a bit more attention to the car in front of them, even on a subconscious level.
 
2013-08-18 02:32:39 PM
Me and just about every other driver I know has been rear-ended at least once. if this sign causes 10 accidents to be avoided, there's a return right there. not only in repair costs but lost time and productivity because getting your car fixed and dealing with insurance is a whole lotta BS.
 
2013-08-18 02:32:43 PM

davin: "noting it's a high-accident area and the bulk are rear-end collisions. Previous signs with more subtle messages didn't work, he said. "



It's a high-accident area because the government traffic engineers who designed the road system failed to make it safer.

The government owns all the roads, writes all the rules for their use, employs the people to enforce those rules, and designs all the safety features of the cars that are used on their roads.

But it's just a weird coincidence that a large number of the collisions (resulting in deaths, amputations, permanent disabilities, and other serious injuries) all seem to happen in the same places all the time, year after year.

So, naturally, instead of taking responsibility for the problem, the government blames drivers and puts up a blinky sign.
 
2013-08-18 02:32:52 PM
Cops are either too stupid or there is a comedian officer f**king with drivers heads.  I am invoking Poe's law on this.
 
2013-08-18 02:36:15 PM

RickN99: olddeegee: It's an electronic sign. It doesn't cost $13,000 EVERY TIME IT'S USED! This is why nobody listens when the "Right" claims government waste. Save your whining for real issues.

You know what's not in the article?  Rightwingers claiming it costs $13,000 every time it's used.

You know what is in the article?  Taxpayer wondering why a $13,000 sign is being used for obvious messages.  The purchasers could have a)saved $13,000 and assumed people would know not to intentionally hit the car in front of them or b) spent $13,000 and used the sign for actual, informative messages.


FTA: "Green Jr. noted that since the sign is an electronic billboard, his department can use it for other purposes, if needed."
So they actually did buy the sign for the purpose it is being used for.
Police departments do not usually own electronic signs like that, transportation departments do.
 
2013-08-18 02:36:45 PM
"Not only are these types of signs insulting to the vast majority of us who are competent drivers, but they're also incredibly dangerous," Foss said.

Competent drivers? In Virginia?
 
2013-08-18 02:38:22 PM
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2013-08-18 02:38:43 PM

Phinn: davin: "noting it's a high-accident area and the bulk are rear-end collisions. Previous signs with more subtle messages didn't work, he said. "

It's a high-accident area because the government traffic engineers who designed the road system failed to make it safer.


Apparently, it's high accident because doucheholes think that being 2 feet from the car in front of them will magically make them get places faster.
 
2013-08-18 02:40:39 PM

ToddMU03: "Not only are these types of signs insulting to the vast majority of us who are competent drivers, but they're also incredibly dangerous," Foss said.

Competent drivers? In Virginia?


The incompetent ones all have Maryland plates.

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2013-08-18 02:41:10 PM
which is ironic, because some dumb driver might look at it instead of paying attention to the road and thusly might actually hit the car infront of them which might've stopped suddenly or something
 
2013-08-18 02:41:23 PM

Znuh: spawn73: If that'll make people consider their distance to the car in front, it works.

This. I don't know if you've had the pleasure of being out in the general populace recently. It's bad. As in beyond-stupid bad.

People looking at you blankly when you say 'Use the spoon to put toppings on your yogurt, not your fist' bad.

Being proud and stupid doing 55 in the passing lane bad.

I'm not surprised. Soon it'll be 'remember to go to bed' and 'wipe ass after pooping' signs everywhere.


I've been in a washroom that had both a "Remember to lock the door" sign and a "Please flush when you are done sign". And that was in addition to the "How to wash your hands" sign.
 
2013-08-18 02:42:21 PM
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2013-08-18 02:44:06 PM
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Now people will stop intentionally ramming our car.

Also, the Indian Weather Rock.

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2013-08-18 02:44:35 PM
It has become a fun game to work my way from an Opposing Views piece to the actual source and watch the outrage fall apart.  It's the journalistic equivalent of losing at Jenga.
 
2013-08-18 02:44:51 PM
As obvious as it seems, stupid people can actually benefit from crap like this.  Just reminding them not to do shiat that everyone knows you're not supposed to do makes them pay attention.
 
2013-08-18 02:45:44 PM

thamike: ToddMU03: "Not only are these types of signs insulting to the vast majority of us who are competent drivers, but they're also incredibly dangerous," Foss said.

Competent drivers? In Virginia?

The incompetent ones all have Maryland plates.

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Oh I am well aware of how terrible Maryland drivers are, BUT Virginia drivers are terrible in their own way. Just last week I had a Virginia native tell me that if a car occupies the lane you want to be in and you need to exit it, you have the right of way to cut them off to make your exit.
 
2013-08-18 02:45:51 PM
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2013-08-18 02:47:03 PM
Daniels
Apparently, it's high accident because doucheholes think that being 2 feet from the car in front of them will magically make them get places faster.


In defense of those prick drivers, if there isn't too much congestion getting over into the right lane and allowing aggressive prick drivers to use their subtle charms on that jackass in the left lane with half a mile of cars behind him, it might be effective.

\May not apply to large suv drivers with personalized plates.
\\I just pass on the right, I don't psychopathically tailgate that well.
 
2013-08-18 02:47:45 PM
So is it that we shouldn't have electronic signs which can be used for many different messages and frequently relocated, or that when it isn't announcing construction and detours it shouldn't be used for safety messages, or that when the standard safety messages don't work in one of the county's most accident prone areas (with almost all of those being rear end collisions) they shouldn't make the message progressively simpler, or just that the police aren't exactly poets?

It is obvious, but then again, people are still hitting the cars in front of them there.  It probably costs them a dollar or so to change the message between that and the usual 'maintain a safe following distance' which nobody complains about.  May as well see if it works any better.  Who knows, perhaps it is just obvious enough for people to process while trying to drive with their elbows, text, and drink coffee during their commute.  They can always change it again when they have a better message for it.
 
2013-08-18 02:48:09 PM
There are lots of people commenting about how the sign cost $13k, but the article isn't really clear if it is the sign that cost that much, or this particular use that did (a cost that might include placement, power, time to type the message, etc.).

In any event, this particular use of the sign is wasteful.  There is no reason to drag it out of storage to put up a notice that is obvious to anyone who has ever even seen a car; these signs are supposed to be used for warnings for road work and such.  If anyone actually thinks that this will reduce the number of accidents, please stand now so we can all ridicule you over your stupidity.
 
2013-08-18 02:50:54 PM

Phinn: So, naturally, instead of taking responsibility for the problem, the government blames drivers and puts up a blinky sign.


NOVA has both problems: Poorly engineered roadways and poor drivers...Good thing the government is so close to help out!
 
2013-08-18 02:53:39 PM
Anyone who thinks there shouldn't be signs delivering obvious traffic safety message has obviously never driven in traffic.
 
2013-08-18 02:54:49 PM

Phinn: davin: "noting it's a high-accident area and the bulk are rear-end collisions. Previous signs with more subtle messages didn't work, he said. "

It's a high-accident area because the government traffic engineers who designed the road system failed to make it safer.

The government owns all the roads, writes all the rules for their use, employs the people to enforce those rules, and designs all the safety features of the cars that are used on their roads.

But it's just a weird coincidence that a large number of the collisions (resulting in deaths, amputations, permanent disabilities, and other serious injuries) all seem to happen in the same places all the time, year after year.

So, naturally, instead of taking responsibility for the problem, the government blames drivers and puts up a blinky sign.


You're overlooking a few important points.

The first point being that most highways are usually graded for much higher speeds. The average Interstate could easily handle people doing 110. However, there are areas where the roads are not rated for higher speeds, and are actually designed to be driven at speeds closer to the speed limit.

The second point is that the average driver does not drive properly. Many drivers do not maintain a full car length for every 10 mph, do not follow the speed limit, do not signal properly, do not merge properly and do not pass properly.

Combine a poor driver with traffic and with a road that is really designed for 60 MPH, and you get collisions.

The blinking sign is there to remind the people who still remember how to drive properly that they really need to pay attention.
 
2013-08-18 02:56:05 PM
I also see a lot of comments about which state in the DC area has the worse drivers.  Now, now, I'm sure we can all agree that ALL the drivers in this area suck.

/The left lane is the legal passing lane.
//Changing four lanes 100 feet from your exit is a sure way to get hit.
///Turn signals are there for a reason.
////Brake in the turn lane, not in the road, when there is no one else in the turn lane.
//Don't pace the guy(s) in the lane(s) next to you when it is clear people are piling up behind you.
//Your first priorities when in the car are driving and paying attention, not holding other people up, reading the paper, etc.
//I feel like these are things I'm constantly reciting around here, regardless of the state on the license plate.
 
2013-08-18 02:57:20 PM
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2013-08-18 02:59:16 PM
As with most other things, Carlin addressed this problem a long time ago:
 
2013-08-18 02:59:20 PM

Daniels: Phinn: davin: "noting it's a high-accident area and the bulk are rear-end collisions. Previous signs with more subtle messages didn't work, he said. "

It's a high-accident area because the government traffic engineers who designed the road system failed to make it safer.

Apparently, it's high accident because doucheholes think that being 2 feet from the car in front of them will magically make them get places faster.


I want to make a bumper sticker for tourist season on the Garden State Parkway:


IF YOU CAN READ THIs
hiat YOUR BRAKES & BACK OFF
OR GIVE ME A REACHAROUND.


 
2013-08-18 03:00:30 PM
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2013-08-18 03:01:03 PM
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2013-08-18 03:01:42 PM

Joe USer: The blinking sign is there to remind the people who still remember how to drive properly that they really need to pay attention.


To the sign?
 
2013-08-18 03:05:17 PM

CptnSpldng: Daniels: Phinn: davin: "noting it's a high-accident area and the bulk are rear-end collisions. Previous signs with more subtle messages didn't work, he said. "

It's a high-accident area because the government traffic engineers who designed the road system failed to make it safer.

Apparently, it's high accident because doucheholes think that being 2 feet from the car in front of them will magically make them get places faster.

I want to make a bumper sticker for tourist season on the Garden State Parkway:


IF YOU CAN READ THIs
hiat YOUR BRAKES & BACK OFF
OR GIVE ME A REACHAROUND.


/Hit dagnabit! Farking autocorrect!
//mumph, mumph
 
2013-08-18 03:05:37 PM
But does it work?
 
2013-08-18 03:08:06 PM

thamike: ToddMU03: "Not only are these types of signs insulting to the vast majority of us who are competent drivers, but they're also incredibly dangerous," Foss said.

Competent drivers? In Virginia?

The incompetent ones all have Maryland plates.


'ahem'... there are three types of drivers in the WMA... Virgidiots, DCimbeciles, and Baltimorons. And they all tailgate like mad.

The sign only has to work once to pay for itself.

(however, the worst driving conditions I've seen in the US was around Albuquerque... you cannot signal there or else all the other drivers immediately try to fill the gap you want.)
 
das
2013-08-18 03:08:10 PM
Why did you wreck???

I was reading the damned sign!!!
 
2013-08-18 03:08:50 PM

orclover: Laugh all you want but that sign will probably actually work on some levels.  People read it, think about it, joke about it.   But now they are probably paying a bit more attention to the car in front of them, even on a subconscious level.


Says you. I'm reading this thread while driving my car right now! Ha Ha!

/I keed
 
2013-08-18 03:10:46 PM

Znuh: spawn73: If that'll make people consider their distance to the car in front, it works.

This. I don't know if you've had the pleasure of being out in the general populace recently. It's bad. As in beyond-stupid bad.

People looking at you blankly when you say 'Use the spoon to put toppings on your yogurt, not your fist' bad.


No kidding! I must see three people a day using a spoon to put their fist on their yogurt. And don't get me started about the morans who put toppings on their fist.
 
2013-08-18 03:13:45 PM

CptnSpldng: Daniels: Phinn: davin: "noting it's a high-accident area and the bulk are rear-end collisions. Previous signs with more subtle messages didn't work, he said. "

It's a high-accident area because the government traffic engineers who designed the road system failed to make it safer.

Apparently, it's high accident because doucheholes think that being 2 feet from the car in front of them will magically make them get places faster.

I want to make a bumper sticker for tourist season on the Garden State Parkway:


IF YOU CAN READ THIs
hiat YOUR BRAKES & BACK OFF
OR GIVE ME A REACHAROUND.


I moved out to Brooklyn from Manhattan 3 months ago.  I have a car now.  Driving here is farking miserable.  It's almost worth it to pay the Manhattan premium to not have to do it ever.  It's just chaos of people waiting until the last second to merge and then tailgating and honking.  I hate it so much.
 
2013-08-18 03:15:01 PM

das: Why did you wreck???

I was reading the damned sign!!!


CSB time:

I actually did get into a wreck when I was 17 because I was reading a stupid sign by the side of the road. I was driving to school early in the morning on the only major highway in the area and I noticed a local restaurant had changed their name and installed a fancy new sign out front. Well as I was looking off at the new sign, my dumbass rear-ended a little old lady and knocked her car off the road down into a ditch. Both cars were totaled, but luckily everyone was fine.

I could never bring myself to eat at that new restaurant.

/end CSB
 
2013-08-18 03:15:18 PM

iron de havilland: [everyonesanidiot.files.wordpress.com image 530x364]


Reminds me of this.

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2013-08-18 03:17:59 PM

06Wahoo: I also see a lot of comments about which state in the DC area has the worse drivers.


I was almost certain that my inclusion of the 'it is known' meme would indicate that my assertion was facetious.

Then again, I'm almost certain that when someone has his blinker on, his car is about to go in the direction indicated.

Call me naive.
 
2013-08-18 03:19:32 PM

davin: Joe USer: The blinking sign is there to remind the people who still remember how to drive properly that they really need to pay attention.

To the sign?


It's a start.
 
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