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(Washington Post)   Hey, where's all our plutonium? I know I left it around here somewhere   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 49
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2013-08-18 10:06:58 AM
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
1.21 gigawatts?!
 
2013-08-18 10:56:34 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-08-18 11:51:58 AM
What a plutonium hoarder might look like:


lh5.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-08-18 12:45:43 PM
Isn't it slowly leaching into the Columbia river and heading for Portland?
 
2013-08-18 12:47:28 PM
Done in one.
Satisfied...
 
2013-08-18 12:48:40 PM
dinosaurrides.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-08-18 12:48:50 PM

Apos: What a plutonium hoarder might look like:


[lh5.googleusercontent.com image 616x606]


Can't be. He's already stocked up on illudium q-36
 
2013-08-18 12:50:08 PM

Apos: What a plutonium hoarder might look like:


[lh5.googleusercontent.com image 616x606]


thought it was the  Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator!
 
2013-08-18 12:50:45 PM

ArkAngel: Apos: What a plutonium hoarder might look like:


[lh5.googleusercontent.com image 616x606]

Can't be. He's already stocked up on illudium q-36


damn too slow
 
2013-08-18 12:50:55 PM
I look to see if there were any obscure forms of plutonium that didn't cry out 'stay away or die', where uranium is capable of having safer states.

Nope.
 
2013-08-18 12:52:04 PM
That's funny.  Now that you mention it, I'm missing my used pinball machine parts.
 
2013-08-18 12:52:35 PM

Apos: What a plutonium hoarder might look like:


[lh5.googleusercontent.com image 616x606]


I expected a plutonium hoarder might look something like a burn victim... but with extra appendages.
 
2013-08-18 12:58:04 PM

cowgirl toffee: Apos: What a plutonium hoarder might look like:


[lh5.googleusercontent.com image 616x606]

I expected a plutonium hoarder might look something like a burn victim... but with extra appendages.


guides.gamepressure.com
 
2013-08-18 01:03:41 PM
Well this thread went exactly as expected.
 
2013-08-18 01:04:26 PM
Is plutonium still an element? I thought it was downgraded to dwarf element a few years ago.
 
2013-08-18 01:04:33 PM
How is your plutonium?  Fine, thank you.
 
2013-08-18 01:06:09 PM

BumpInTheNight: cowgirl toffee: Apos: What a plutonium hoarder might look like:


[lh5.googleusercontent.com image 616x606]

I expected a plutonium hoarder might look something like a burn victim... but with extra appendages.

[guides.gamepressure.com image 280x240]


:D
 
2013-08-18 01:10:44 PM
Very nice.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-08-18 01:12:16 PM
"D'oh, stupid waste plutonium. Now I have to find a place to hide all this junky stuff."
www.indymedia.ie
 
2013-08-18 01:13:09 PM
Don't we sell that in drugstores these days?
 
2013-08-18 01:14:14 PM

cj1319: Is plutonium still an element? I thought it was downgraded to dwarf element a few years ago.


IT'S STILL A FUNDAMENTAL BUILDING BLOCK OF THE UNIVERSE TO ME!
 
2013-08-18 01:16:19 PM

MayoSlather: Don't we sell that in drugstores these days?


Kinda. But, you still have to make it in the basement though.
 
2013-08-18 01:22:42 PM
cowgirl toffee
MayoSlather: Don't we sell that in drugstores these days?
Kinda. But, you still have to make it in the basement though.


There is always your shed using radium paint and a carved block of lead.

\Actually that is enriched uranium, I don't know the process difference between creating enriched uranium and plutonium.

\\Hello NSA.
 
2013-08-18 01:24:05 PM

Enemabag Jones: cowgirl toffee
MayoSlather: Don't we sell that in drugstores these days?
Kinda. But, you still have to make it in the basement though.

There is always your shed using radium paint and a carved block of lead.

\Actually that is enriched uranium, I don't know the process difference between creating enriched uranium and plutonium.

\\Hello NSA.


Guess the shed would be better if you had a family.
 
2013-08-18 01:24:23 PM
Wasn't this featured in the last season of The West Wing?
 
2013-08-18 01:27:28 PM
cowgirl toffee,
Guess the shed would be better if you had a family.


Or really wanted that scout badge in nuclear science.

It is a great short read about a nuclear hacker.

Link
 
2013-08-18 01:32:50 PM
I'm sorry future boy, it looks like your stuck here
 
2013-08-18 01:38:27 PM
Has anyone checked with Edward Snowden?
 
2013-08-18 01:40:58 PM
Turns out the half-life is only 37 years.
 
2013-08-18 01:51:51 PM
I would have thought they would have extracted it and burned it in a nuclear reactor. Now they just left it there for someone determined enough to go and get it
 
2013-08-18 02:31:41 PM

Eps05: I would have thought they would have extracted it and burned it in a nuclear reactor.


Yeah, it's weird.  Surely the safest place for that stuff to be is burning in a core, and as a bonus it's more useful.   Maybe it was about cataloging and sorting the useful material versus all the crap that must be there, most of it unlableled and untracked.  You could get a general idea in the field with spectrometry, but proper characterization is a whole effort.
 
2013-08-18 02:34:37 PM
If only there were a technology which could blow up a mountain.

/knows how small the holes are which nukes make in rock
 
2013-08-18 02:39:40 PM
i151.photobucket.com

/met one of the DOE-IN guys who tracks black market nuke materials in Central Asia
//"crazy" is too subtle a word
///lots of fun at parties
 
2013-08-18 02:44:31 PM

BumpInTheNight: cowgirl toffee: I expected a plutonium hoarder might look something like a burn victim... but with extra appendages.

[guides.gamepressure.com image 280x240]


Radroach carcass in alley this morning, footprint on burst stomach ...
 
2013-08-18 03:03:57 PM
Let's see, heavy equipment tracks, trench excavation, tunnel seals breached.

If there was any plutonium there, I'd say it already left the barn.

Sleep well America, sleep well.
 
2013-08-18 03:05:07 PM
righteousfilm.com

These guys might know what's up.
 
2013-08-18 03:10:55 PM
Easy to find it: Abercrombie & Fitch sold these in the 1940s.

i.imgbox.com
 
2013-08-18 03:20:23 PM
Bacontastesgood:

Eps05: I would have thought they would have extracted it and burned it in a nuclear reactor.

Yeah, it's weird. Surely the safest place for that stuff to be is burning in a core, and as a bonus it's more useful. Maybe it was about cataloging and sorting the useful material versus all the crap that must be there, most of it unlableled and untracked. You could get a general idea in the field with spectrometry, but proper characterization is a whole effort.


Probably lack of a buyer. By the time it was hauled away and reprocessed to make it useable in a power reactor it'd probably be *more* expensive than fuel made from scratch.

studebaker hoch:

Let's see, heavy equipment tracks, trench excavation, tunnel seals breached.

If there was any plutonium there, I'd say it already left the barn.

Sleep well America, sleep well.


Any entity with the skills to make a nuke probably already has a source of fissile material.

This stuff could be used in a dirty bomb, but there are plenty of easier-to-get-at sources for that, like the thousands of RTG's scattered around Siberia that got lost when the USSR collapsed or the barely regulated trade in obsolete X-ray equipment flowing from the first world to the third.

So yeah, this stuff is bad news, but there's plenty of worse news, unfortunately.
 
2013-08-18 04:07:55 PM
Nope, no Plutonium on Amazon.  All they have is some boring old Uranium.
 
2013-08-18 04:42:05 PM

baronbloodbath: That's funny.  Now that you mention it, I'm missing my used pinball machine parts.


You have restored my faith in Farkers.
 
2013-08-18 05:41:13 PM
Russia didn't lose thousands of RTGs, they lost a few when idiots stole them for scrap.  The idiots themselves then were "lost", collecting Darwin awards on the way.

Any decent university physics department could build a nuke (minus the core) given motivation, money and time.
 
2013-08-18 05:43:01 PM

Enemabag Jones: cowgirl toffee,
Guess the shed would be better if you had a family.

Or really wanted that scout badge in nuclear science.

It is a great short read about a nuclear hacker.

Link


That story is mostly bogus.  To quote the wiki article you linked to:
Hahn ultimately hoped to create a breeder reactor, using low-level [3] Although his homemade reactor never achieved critical mass, it ended up emitting dangerous levels of radioactivity, likely well over 1,000 times normal

It's true he was trying to create a breeder reactor but if it were that easy everyone would have a nuclear bomb.Here is a better explanation of what he actually did and why he didn't really create radioactivity well over 1000 time normal background.
 
2013-08-18 08:52:51 PM
How else am I supposed to power my Ford Neucleon?
 
2013-08-18 09:11:49 PM

bingo the psych-o: Nope, no Plutonium on Amazon.  All they have is some boring old Uranium.


I'm more interested in the Canned Unicorn Meat Amazon wanted to package up with it for the deal price.
 
2013-08-19 01:24:23 AM
I'm just going to wait a couple of more years for my Mr. Fusion.
 
2013-08-19 02:07:43 AM
The canned unicorn meat was funny as hell.

Amazon must figure someone who thinks they will find kilogram-scale quantities of weapons-grade fissile material online will probably fall for any scam.  I'm surprised the Brooklyn Bridge wasn't on there.  Or my virginity.
 
2013-08-19 09:35:45 AM

MayoSlather: Don't we sell that in drugstores these days?


Every corner one, in fact. But in 1955 it was a little hard to come by.
 
2013-08-19 09:50:35 AM

Speaker2Animals: Easy to find it: Abercrombie & Fitch sold these in the 1940s.



She's got one of her headphones on backwards.
 
2013-08-19 10:52:02 AM

dbrunker: Speaker2Animals: Easy to find it: Abercrombie & Fitch sold these in the 1940s.


She's got one of her headphones on backwards.


They did things differently in the 1940s.
 
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