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2013-08-18 02:46:58 AM
How dare he show concern for something his mother was passionate about!

He should go back to ignoring real world problems so we can biatch at him for ignoring real world problems.
 
2013-08-18 02:47:09 AM
I'm sure he'd try to get a plumber to take care of it, if he knew what a plumber was.
 
2013-08-18 02:52:58 AM
Mine-clearing is dangerous, thankless work. It's a menial task with a fair probability of killing the operator. The Germans in particular know a lot about mine-clearing thanks to the partition. The Koreans will learn a thing or two when that day comes.
 
2013-08-18 02:57:18 AM
From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.
 
2013-08-18 02:58:29 AM

casual disregard: Mine-clearing is dangerous, thankless work. It's a menial task with a fair probability of killing the operator. The Germans in particular know a lot about mine-clearing thanks to the partition. The Koreans will learn a thing or two when that day comes.


Heck, there are lots of mines on "our" side. I took a DMZ tour a couple of yrs ago and there are lots of places off of the road the bus goes on that are marked "DANGEROUS MINES." There are even a few at Guantanamo that they know are unaccounted for.
 
2013-08-18 03:02:26 AM
Go to anywhere in the Balkans and you will agree.
 
2013-08-18 03:02:41 AM

casual disregard: Mine-clearing is dangerous, thankless work. It's a menial task with a fair probability of killing the operator. The Germans in particular know a lot about mine-clearing thanks to the partition. The Koreans will learn a thing or two when that day comes.


But it is also really easy to clear a minefield.  Just let your kids play soccer on the mine field.
 
2013-08-18 03:09:14 AM

CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.


Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.
 
2013-08-18 03:10:13 AM
Mine clearing is wet your pants scary, "mine detectors" are just glorified metal detectors and are unreliable at best, plus many mines made from the 70s on have minimal metallic content, so to clear them you lay out a grid and then get down on your belly and use a probe to feel into the dirt ahead of you till you find something solid then its "is it a mine? if so does it have a anti tamper device or is it booby trapped?" we would uncover just enough to verify it was a mine then use det cord to destroy it in place, but the civilian mine clearers either have no access to or no budget for det cord so the carefully clear the dirt from the mine then use a line to pull the mine clear of the hole, if it doesn't explode or trip a trap then the mine is disarmed and placed aside for retrieval and disposal. My hat is off to them.
 
2013-08-18 03:11:14 AM

89 Stick-Up Kid: Go to anywhere in the Balkans and you will agree.


Kosovo did suck.  I just dont want to hear about it from a 'prince'.
 
2013-08-18 03:12:38 AM

thisisarepeat: CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.

Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.


Ahh, I recognize the jargon. You must have served with the 27th Brigade of Internet Commandos.
 
2013-08-18 03:16:24 AM

docmattic: thisisarepeat: CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.

Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.

Ahh, I recognize the jargon. You must have served with the 27th Brigade of Internet Commandos.


101st, one tour in kosovo/macedonia and the invasion of iraq, forward observer, purple heart, go fark yourself.
 
2013-08-18 03:25:15 AM

thisisarepeat: CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.

Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.


So what? Royalty has never served anywhere risky. He's just upholding the tradition of the royal sitting on his high horse while the infantry does the real work. The only difference? His horse can be a few thousand feet taller.
 
2013-08-18 03:26:21 AM

thisisarepeat: docmattic: thisisarepeat: CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.

Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.

Ahh, I recognize the jargon. You must have served with the 27th Brigade of Internet Commandos.

101st, one tour in kosovo/macedonia and the invasion of iraq, forward observer, purple heart, go fark yourself.


which unit?  the 502 or the 327? I did some liaison duty with em and got to know many of the sergeants, maybe we met? pic in profile
 
2013-08-18 03:31:22 AM

Pribar: Mine clearing is wet your pants scary, "mine detectors" are just glorified metal detectors and are unreliable at best, plus many mines made from the 70s on have minimal metallic content, so to clear them you lay out a grid and then get down on your belly and use a probe to feel into the dirt ahead of you till you find something solid then its "is it a mine? if so does it have a anti tamper device or is it booby trapped?" we would uncover just enough to verify it was a mine then use det cord to destroy it in place, but the civilian mine clearers either have no access to or no budget for det cord so the carefully clear the dirt from the mine then use a line to pull the mine clear of the hole, if it doesn't explode or trip a trap then the mine is disarmed and placed aside for retrieval and disposal. My hat is off to them.


*shudders*    Mines suck.  but they can be cleared, it takes a long time to do it "safely".  but that requires training/explosives.  det chord is super but you need chunks of c-4/comp-b/dynamite nor something every so many feet to clear a path.  If you want to clear them, you have to accept a moonscape/get the fark out of the balkins/africa.
 
2013-08-18 03:33:50 AM

Pribar: thisisarepeat: docmattic: thisisarepeat: CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.

Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.

Ahh, I recognize the jargon. You must have served with the 27th Brigade of Internet Commandos.

101st, one tour in kosovo/macedonia and the invasion of iraq, forward observer, purple heart, go fark yourself.

which unit?  the 502 or the 327? I did some liaison duty with em and got to know many of the sergeants, maybe we met? pic in profile


1/320 oficially,   but usually 2/502.
 
2013-08-18 03:36:16 AM

thisisarepeat: CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.

Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.


To be fair, as the person who was at that time third in line to the throne he wouldn't have been allowed to serve in anything majorly life threatening, yet he still chose to do something and from what I understand he loved it and was widely accepted by his comrades as just being one of the guys. But regardless of what you think of his motives for serving his country, he's now using his public image in a positive way to try and make a real difference about a serious issue that he genuinely cares about, and one which destroys the lives of so many innocent people.
 
2013-08-18 03:37:46 AM

Pribar: thisisarepeat: docmattic: thisisarepeat: CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.

Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.

Ahh, I recognize the jargon. You must have served with the 27th Brigade of Internet Commandos.

101st, one tour in kosovo/macedonia and the invasion of iraq, forward observer, purple heart, go fark yourself.

which unit?  the 502 or the 327? I did some liaison duty with em and got to know many of the sergeants, maybe we met? pic in profile


what about 187? couldnt i be from there?   troll
 
2013-08-18 03:40:39 AM

thisisarepeat: docmattic: thisisarepeat: CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.

Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.

Ahh, I recognize the jargon. You must have served with the 27th Brigade of Internet Commandos.

101st, one tour in kosovo/macedonia and the invasion of iraq, forward observer, purple heart, go fark yourself.


I'm sure every member of the armed services you just insulted is saying the same to you
 
2013-08-18 03:45:08 AM

thisisarepeat: Pribar: thisisarepeat: docmattic: thisisarepeat: CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.

Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.

Ahh, I recognize the jargon. You must have served with the 27th Brigade of Internet Commandos.

101st, one tour in kosovo/macedonia and the invasion of iraq, forward observer, purple heart, go fark yourself.

which unit?  the 502 or the 327? I did some liaison duty with em and got to know many of the sergeants, maybe we met? pic in profile

what about 187? couldnt i be from there?   troll


??? the 502 and 327 were the two regiments in Kfor I liasoned with, I was a 2336 and was assigned to IA them. Touchy much?
 
2013-08-18 03:46:18 AM

thisisarepeat: CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.

Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.


The jealousy is strong in this one.
 
2013-08-18 03:46:25 AM

thisisarepeat: CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.

Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.


He also served as a forward air controller in Afghanistan.  Yea, now he may have the career you're describing, he actually has seen combat.  I'm not saying he's some great war hero, but he deserves the same respect as anyone else who's served honorably over there.
 
2013-08-18 03:51:49 AM
ill give im points for at least knowing what the neighborhood looks like

a weapon that keeps killing long after peace has been declared is wrong
respect to the prince for reminding us of this evil
 
2013-08-18 03:57:25 AM

Pribar: thisisarepeat: Pribar: thisisarepeat: docmattic: thisisarepeat: CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.

Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.

Ahh, I recognize the jargon. You must have served with the 27th Brigade of Internet Commandos.

101st, one tour in kosovo/macedonia and the invasion of iraq, forward observer, purple heart, go fark yourself.

which unit?  the 502 or the 327? I did some liaison duty with em and got to know many of the sergeants, maybe we met? pic in profile

what about 187? couldnt i be from there?   troll

??? the 502 and 327 were the two regiments in Kfor I liasoned with, I was a 2336 and was assigned to IA them. Touchy much?


The pic in your profile is of a house cat.
 
2013-08-18 04:03:08 AM

shtychkn: I'm sure every member of the armed services you just insulted is saying the same to you


Indeed.

 

Mock26: The jealousy is strong in this one


Yup.

Landmines are bad and the US should be ashamed of itself for not signing the anti-mine treaty when they had a chance. Little kids , old people, animals all still die all over this rock due to mines .

/De Oppresso Liber
 
2013-08-18 04:03:27 AM

thisisarepeat: Pribar: thisisarepeat: Pribar: thisisarepeat: docmattic: thisisarepeat: CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.

Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.

Ahh, I recognize the jargon. You must have served with the 27th Brigade of Internet Commandos.

101st, one tour in kosovo/macedonia and the invasion of iraq, forward observer, purple heart, go fark yourself.

which unit?  the 502 or the 327? I did some liaison duty with em and got to know many of the sergeants, maybe we met? pic in profile

what about 187? couldnt i be from there?   troll

??? the 502 and 327 were the two regiments in Kfor I liasoned with, I was a 2336 and was assigned to IA them. Touchy much?

The pic in your profile is of a house cat.


I respect everything you've done and all, but do yo have PTSD or something?  Aggressive responses, and obviously a picture of him in his profile well past the house cat :)
 
2013-08-18 04:07:20 AM
Lieutenant George: Oh, sir, if we should happen to tread on a mine, what do we do?
Captain Blackadder: Well, normal procedure, Lieutenant, is to jump up 200 feet into the air and scatter yourself over a wide area.
 
2013-08-18 04:07:47 AM

Brosef Stalin: thisisarepeat: CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.

Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.

To be fair, as the person who was at that time third in line to the throne he wouldn't have been allowed to serve in anything majorly life threatening, yet he still chose to do something and from what I understand he loved it and was widely accepted by his comrades as just being one of the guys. But regardless of what you think of his motives for serving his country, he's now using his public image in a positive way to try and make a real difference about a serious issue that he genuinely cares about, and one which destroys the lives of so many innocent people.


WTF?  How could I have been so myopic?!  I see now that instead of a fiberglass hot dog roaster, i should have used my public image.
 
2013-08-18 04:08:34 AM
By the By, Pribar - Looks to me like to make some nice instruments. Glad Luthiers are still about. You should do some uploads on how they sound. Just a suggestion.
 
2013-08-18 04:09:40 AM
Argh. Shb "looks to me like you " .
 
2013-08-18 04:09:50 AM

tchau: thisisarepeat: Pribar: thisisarepeat: Pribar: thisisarepeat: docmattic: thisisarepeat: CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.

Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.

Ahh, I recognize the jargon. You must have served with the 27th Brigade of Internet Commandos.

101st, one tour in kosovo/macedonia and the invasion of iraq, forward observer, purple heart, go fark yourself.

which unit?  the 502 or the 327? I did some liaison duty with em and got to know many of the sergeants, maybe we met? pic in profile

what about 187? couldnt i be from there?   troll

??? the 502 and 327 were the two regiments in Kfor I liasoned with, I was a 2336 and was assigned to IA them. Touchy much?

The pic in your profile is of a house cat.

I respect everything you've done and all, but do yo have PTSD or something?  Aggressive responses, and obviously a picture of him in his profile well past the house cat :)


yes.  sorry, found the pics, we didnt meet.
 
2013-08-18 04:10:35 AM

thisisarepeat: Pribar: thisisarepeat: Pribar: thisisarepeat: docmattic: thisisarepeat: CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.

Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.

Ahh, I recognize the jargon. You must have served with the 27th Brigade of Internet Commandos.

101st, one tour in kosovo/macedonia and the invasion of iraq, forward observer, purple heart, go fark yourself.

which unit?  the 502 or the 327? I did some liaison duty with em and got to know many of the sergeants, maybe we met? pic in profile

what about 187? couldnt i be from there?   troll

??? the 502 and 327 were the two regiments in Kfor I liasoned with, I was a 2336 and was assigned to IA them. Touchy much?

The pic in your profile is of a house cat.


That's relevant.
 
2013-08-18 04:13:31 AM

alienated: shtychkn: I'm sure every member of the armed services you just insulted is saying the same to you

Indeed.

 Mock26: The jealousy is strong in this one

Yup.

Landmines are bad and the US should be ashamed of itself for not signing the anti-mine treaty when they had a chance. Little kids , old people, animals all still die all over this rock due to mines .

/De Oppresso Liber


the us mines aren't persistent.  they detonate after a certain interval.
 
2013-08-18 04:15:16 AM

alienated: By the By, Pribar - Looks to me like you make some nice instruments. Glad Luthiers are still about. You should do some uploads on how they sound. Just a suggestion.


I keep planning to, but so far my lazy ass has been long on plan and short on do
 
2013-08-18 04:18:10 AM

thisisarepeat: docmattic: thisisarepeat: CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.

Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.

Ahh, I recognize the jargon. You must have served with the 27th Brigade of Internet Commandos.

101st, one tour in kosovo/macedonia and the invasion of iraq, forward observer, purple heart, go fark yourself.


Poor widdle grunt, is your arse not being kissed enough now you're back home?  Are people not paying enough deference to your purple heart?  Feeling useless now you can't attach your identity to "saving the world from terror!" any more?  Not feeling powerful now you can't thrust your big gun in people's faces and scream at them till they do what you want?

Tiny, tiny man throwing a tantrum because he's not being treated like a god.

I think Harry will continue to spend the rest of his life contributing to the good of his nation.  You... go do whatever it is you do when you're not illegally invading places.
 
2013-08-18 04:23:21 AM

thisisarepeat: the us mines aren't persistent.  they detonate after a certain interval.


Yeah. Does it matter where the mines came from ? Its an outmoded form of warfare to place landmines when the combatants can fly over the land. Dont you get that ? Dont you think that having humans and animals die or get their damn legs blown off almost everyday from things from wars that have not been so , for so long a time that nobody remembers where they are would be good to outlaw as archaic , at the very least ? Or should we airdrop bodies into reservoirs like in the good old days  ?
 
2013-08-18 04:25:27 AM
Dont get me wrong- attack the enemy in the harshest fashion available, but make sure only the combatants die if at all possible. Landmines are for the weak .
 
2013-08-18 04:26:23 AM

if_i_really_have_to: thisisarepeat: docmattic: thisisarepeat: CPT Ethanolic: From everything I've heard, Harry has served overseas and done the same work as everyone else over here.  Pretty honorable considering he absolutely didn't have to.

Meh, had he joined the infantry, the engineers, or the artillery you would be correct, instead he chose helicopter pilot.  While it is possible for helicopter pilots to face some danger (they don't fly until fixed wings have completely, totally, and irrevocably sanitized the airspace in any given theater) they don't face any sacrifice or discomfort.  The same sort of powdered ass "I haz been to battle!" bullshiat you expect from royalty.  So, eat a bag of dicks, and don't ever tell me he served anything but himself.

Ahh, I recognize the jargon. You must have served with the 27th Brigade of Internet Commandos.

101st, one tour in kosovo/macedonia and the invasion of iraq, forward observer, purple heart, go fark yourself.

Poor widdle grunt, is your arse not being kissed enough now you're back home?  Are people not paying enough deference to your purple heart?  Feeling useless now you can't attach your identity to "saving the world from terror!" any more?  Not feeling powerful now you can't thrust your big gun in people's faces and scream at them till they do what you want?

Tiny, tiny man throwing a tantrum because he's not being treated like a god.

I think Harry will continue to spend the rest of his life contributing to the good of his nation.  You... go do whatever it is you do when you're not illegally invading places.


I'm mortified, that the "prince" engaged in illegal behavior, i imagine he will be pardoned.
 
2013-08-18 04:33:24 AM

alienated: thisisarepeat: the us mines aren't persistent.  they detonate after a certain interval.

Yeah. Does it matter where the mines came from ? Its an outmoded form of warfare to place landmines when the combatants can fly over the land. Dont you get that ? Dont you think that having humans and animals die or get their damn legs blown off almost everyday from things from wars that have not been so , for so long a time that nobody remembers where they are would be good to outlaw as archaic , at the very least ? Or should we airdrop bodies into reservoirs like in the good old days  ?


1st) yes, because that determines how they work.  2nd) it isn't outmoded, "Top Gun" can not gather intelligence from operators on the ground. 3rd) like I said, U.S. mines are NOT persistent.  biatch at the french.
 
2013-08-18 04:41:38 AM
If you only jumped in you must have not flown in. I have no idea why  you tried to pull top gun into the equation is beyond me. helichoppers get operators on the ground. There is a lot of walking involved but when one can fly..

And you are obviously a shill for an arms manufacturer if you still defend the device at all.
 
2013-08-18 04:54:55 AM

alienated: If you only jumped in you must have not flown in. I have no idea why  you tried to pull top gun into the equation is beyond me. helichoppers get operators on the ground. There is a lot of walking involved but when one can fly..

And you are obviously a shill for an arms manufacturer if you still defend the device at all.


horse shiat.  Mines aren't deployed typically by the us.  The mines that are deployed, are either command detonated (claymore) or delivered by airdrop or artillery, and thus ON THE SURFACE and if that wasn't enough they DETONATE THEMSELVES after a certain interval.  Mines are still perfectly viable for area denial.  shiattier countries still have mines that will be armed for another century.  Why should we sign a treaty that exposes us to charges in the event of a loss, when we have already IMPLEMENTED measures that make our mines non-persistent, and therefore much less likely to harm COBs ?
 
2013-08-18 04:56:54 AM

thisisarepeat: Pribar: Mine clearing is wet your pants scary, "mine detectors" are just glorified metal detectors and are unreliable at best, plus many mines made from the 70s on have minimal metallic content, so to clear them you lay out a grid and then get down on your belly and use a probe to feel into the dirt ahead of you till you find something solid then its "is it a mine? if so does it have a anti tamper device or is it booby trapped?" we would uncover just enough to verify it was a mine then use det cord to destroy it in place, but the civilian mine clearers either have no access to or no budget for det cord so the carefully clear the dirt from the mine then use a line to pull the mine clear of the hole, if it doesn't explode or trip a trap then the mine is disarmed and placed aside for retrieval and disposal. My hat is off to them.

*shudders*    Mines suck.  but they can be cleared, it takes a long time to do it "safely".  but that requires training/explosives.  det chord is super but you need chunks of c-4/comp-b/dynamite nor something every so many feet to clear a path.  If you want to clear them, you have to accept a moonscape/get the fark out of the balkins/africa.


Not to be nit picky but using blasts to clear a path through a minefield doesn't work anymore, mines like the VS-2.2 are blast and overpressure resistant and have integral anti handling system making them a stone biatch to clear, unless you do like the Iraqis did here:



i135.photobucket.com

In which case you have a armored bulldozer or a Abrams with a blade do this to clear em:

i135.photobucket.com
/det cord applied directly to em cracks the case and either sets em off or destroys the detonator making them safe (relatively)
 
2013-08-18 04:59:22 AM

alienated: Dont get me wrong- attack the enemy in the harshest fashion available, but make sure only the combatants die if at all possible. Landmines are for the weak prepared.

 
2013-08-18 05:05:12 AM

Pribar: thisisarepeat: Pribar: Mine clearing is wet your pants scary, "mine detectors" are just glorified metal detectors and are unreliable at best, plus many mines made from the 70s on have minimal metallic content, so to clear them you lay out a grid and then get down on your belly and use a probe to feel into the dirt ahead of you till you find something solid then its "is it a mine? if so does it have a anti tamper device or is it booby trapped?" we would uncover just enough to verify it was a mine then use det cord to destroy it in place, but the civilian mine clearers either have no access to or no budget for det cord so the carefully clear the dirt from the mine then use a line to pull the mine clear of the hole, if it doesn't explode or trip a trap then the mine is disarmed and placed aside for retrieval and disposal. My hat is off to them.

*shudders*    Mines suck.  but they can be cleared, it takes a long time to do it "safely".  but that requires training/explosives.  det chord is super but you need chunks of c-4/comp-b/dynamite nor something every so many feet to clear a path.  If you want to clear them, you have to accept a moonscape/get the fark out of the balkins/africa.

Not to be nit picky but using blasts to clear a path through a minefield doesn't work anymore, mines like the VS-2.2 are blast and overpressure resistant and have integral anti handling system making them a stone biatch to clear, unless you do like the Iraqis did here:

[i135.photobucket.com image 800x524]

In which case you have a armored bulldozer or a Abrams with a blade do this to clear em:

[i135.photobucket.com image 800x524]
/det cord applied directly to em cracks the case and either sets em off or destroys the detonator making them safe (relatively)


Yup. So.....?
 
2013-08-18 05:06:13 AM
I feel sorry for folks like you . If my forces are so weak to kill the other guys i have to deploy something that will only result in a 3-4 % ratio of combatant and a 96-7 of civilians, I would take a bullet train. But thats another story. Mines suck, why the hell do you defend them ?
 
2013-08-18 05:08:46 AM
http://www.state.gov/t/pm/wra/c11735.htm

thank you to above comments - i was out of date
US to go to non-persistant landmines as of 2004
 
2013-08-18 05:11:38 AM

Pribar: thisisarepeat: Pribar: Mine clearing is wet your pants scary, "mine detectors" are just glorified metal detectors and are unreliable at best, plus many mines made from the 70s on have minimal metallic content, so to clear them you lay out a grid and then get down on your belly and use a probe to feel into the dirt ahead of you till you find something solid then its "is it a mine? if so does it have a anti tamper device or is it booby trapped?" we would uncover just enough to verify it was a mine then use det cord to destroy it in place, but the civilian mine clearers either have no access to or no budget for det cord so the carefully clear the dirt from the mine then use a line to pull the mine clear of the hole, if it doesn't explode or trip a trap then the mine is disarmed and placed aside for retrieval and disposal. My hat is off to them.

*shudders*    Mines suck.  but they can be cleared, it takes a long time to do it "safely".  but that requires training/explosives.  det chord is super but you need chunks of c-4/comp-b/dynamite nor something every so many feet to clear a path.  If you want to clear them, you have to accept a moonscape/get the fark out of the balkins/africa.

Not to be nit picky but using blasts to clear a path through a minefield doesn't work anymore, mines like the VS-2.2 are blast and overpressure resistant and have integral anti handling system making them a stone biatch to clear, unless you do like the Iraqis did here:

[i135.photobucket.com image 800x524]

In which case you have a armored bulldozer or a Abrams with a blade do this to clear em:

[i135.photobucket.com image 800x524]
/det cord applied directly to em cracks the case and either sets em off or destroys the detonator making them safe (relatively)


oh, i left out what the armored divisions have to clear them.
 
2013-08-18 05:16:10 AM

alienated: I feel sorry for folks like you . If my forces are so weak to kill the other guys i have to deploy something that will only result in a 3-4 % ratio of combatant and a 96-7 of civilians, I would take a bullet train. But thats another story. Mines suck, why the hell do you defend them


Different mines, regardless...who won the Nobel peace prize?
 
2013-08-18 05:19:37 AM

bindlestiff2600: http://www.state.gov/t/pm/wra/c11735.htm

thank you to above comments - i was out of date
US to go to non-persistant landmines as of 2004


yup mines like the BLU-91 and the M86 use a battery detonator, when the battery charge reaches a preset level (few minutes to a few days) the mine self destructs, we do still have some M16 mines stockpiled for use in Korea if that ever goes to hell again, hopefully we will phase those out as well, I kinda agree with Alienated in that I hate mines but they do have their uses on the battlefield as long as you clean up after yourself when its all over.


/what gets me is the EU is one of the most vocal critic of mines but their member states produce a lot of the persistant mines used (like the  VS-2.2 Imentioned above is Italian) they don't make em for use, but for export....
 
2013-08-18 05:22:50 AM

thisisarepeat: 101st, one tour in kosovo/macedonia and the invasion of iraq, forward observer, purple heart, go fark yourself.


  Would you like a special brownie just for you? I'm stationed at a combat hospital out here in Afghanistan and last Saturday was working in the trauma bay helping with 20 sf soldiers who all earned purple hearts that day.  Was their while 1 of them almost bled out on the operating room table.  I've also been there while soldiers earned people hearts that only their families will see.  You're not special, but go ahead and keep thinking that and acting like a prick.  All you're doing is degrading what you have done.  Prince Harry served in a combat zone, which is more than 99% of the population can say.  You diminishing his service is a slap in the face of everyone who has served down range.  And it's not just infantry that is dying out here, in case you don't know.
 
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