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(Comic Book)   Even Darth Vader didn't like the Star Wars prequels. David Prowse: "I think the common opinion now is they were really bad movies"   (comicbook.com) divider line 70
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2013-08-17 04:16:10 PM  
"I think the common opinion now is they were really bad movies."

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"Say, you do not."
 
2013-08-17 04:44:49 PM  
He does not want?
 
2013-08-17 04:48:18 PM  
I wouldn't even say that they are "bad" movies; just incredibly mediocre ones.   "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter" was a bad movie.  "Manos: The Hands of Fate" was a bad movie.  "The Terror" was a bad movie.

The prequels were dull, poorly written, and poorly directed.  They seemed like really bad movies because they could have been, and should have been great movies.
 
2013-08-17 05:48:56 PM  

FloydA: I wouldn't even say that they are "bad" movies; just incredibly mediocre ones.   "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter" was a bad movie.  "Manos: The Hands of Fate" was a bad movie.  "The Terror" was a bad movie.

The prequels were dull, poorly written, and poorly directed, with a really, really bad actor playing Anakin.  They seemed like really bad movies because they could have been, and should have been great movies.


I think my addition is the key here.  Doesn't matter who the other characters are, when the key actor is horrible, it makes them look bad too.
 
2013-08-17 06:00:27 PM  

FriarReb98: FloydA: I wouldn't even say that they are "bad" movies; just incredibly mediocre ones.   "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter" was a bad movie.  "Manos: The Hands of Fate" was a bad movie.  "The Terror" was a bad movie.

The prequels were dull, poorly written, and poorly directed, with a really, really bad actor playing Anakin.  They seemed like really bad movies because they could have been, and should have been great movies.

I think my addition is the key here.  Doesn't matter who the other characters are, when the key actor is horrible, it makes them look bad too.



Wait a sec.  Are you trying to tell me HE was supposed to be an important character?  The whiny dude?

Huh, what do you know.  I guess they really were bad movies then.
 
2013-08-17 06:07:31 PM  
Well he wasn't the guy  who was there when Vader was unmasked, he didn't do any of the sword fighting scenes, they didn't use any of his dialog so who gives a fark what he thinks?
 
2013-08-17 06:20:32 PM  

FloydA: The prequels were dull, poorly written, and poorly directed.  They seemed like really bad movies because they could have been, and should have been great movies.



Very much this. GL's contribution to sci-fi cinema is secure, but his reputation as a director took a massive hit after these flicks-something that not even THX-1138 and Howard The Duck could accomplish.
 
2013-08-17 06:35:14 PM  
The problem with the prequels was simple: Lucas lost the story. He didn't have the tech he wanted to play with for the first ones, and once he got it, we got to see what a shiat writer he was.

Let Michael Stackpole do the writing; Lucas can direct and use his toys.
 
2013-08-17 06:39:00 PM  

Peki: Lucas can direct and use his toys.


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2013-08-17 06:56:36 PM  
Lucas gets WAY too much credit for "inventing" Star Wars. He had much more talented people working for him (John Dykstra, John Williams and Ralph McQuarrie in particular. I think Lucas would have made a terrific special effects director but he can't write a decent story to save his life and he is terrible at directing people. Most of those talented people are long gone and now he's cloistered himself among computer animators and folks who are afraid to challenge his dumb ideas.
 
2013-08-17 07:43:17 PM  

NutWrench: Lucas gets WAY too much credit for "inventing" Star Wars. He had much more talented people working for him (John Dykstra, John Williams and Ralph McQuarrie in particular. I think Lucas would have made a terrific special effects director but he can't write a decent story to save his life and he is terrible at directing people. Most of those talented people are long gone and now he's cloistered himself among computer animators and folks who are afraid to challenge his dumb ideas.


Not to mention the uncredited ghost writing to fix his horrible dialog on Star Wars, THX, and Graffiti. Once he had to do it on his own with no one around to tell him his ideas needed work (C3PO as a used car salesman?) Lucas was finally revealed as a mediocre talent at best.
 
2013-08-17 08:09:03 PM  
I think a lot of people think they'll look cool by turning their noses up at Episodes 1, 2, and 3. Personally, I enjoyed them all quite a bit. They aren't perfect movies but I never expected them to be perfect.

Sometimes I think some of these folks simply hate Lucas because he was wildly and enormously successful and they would like to think they're better than him in one way or another. That old story... where someone must tear others or their work down to feel good about themselves.
 
2013-08-17 08:11:06 PM  

FriarReb98: FloydA: I wouldn't even say that they are "bad" movies; just incredibly mediocre ones.   "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter" was a bad movie.  "Manos: The Hands of Fate" was a bad movie.  "The Terror" was a bad movie.

The prequels were dull, poorly written, and poorly directed, with a really, really bad actor playing Anakin.  They seemed like really bad movies because they could have been, and should have been great movies.

I think my addition is the key here.  Doesn't matter who the other characters are, when the key actor is horrible, it makes them look bad too.


No, Hayden Christensen isn't a bad actor. He film made him look like a bad actor and the dame goes for Natalie Portman. I've seen other movies Hayden starred in and he's pretty good.

Besides, the prequels were just more or less "The Vader Chronicles". They could have done other things with the three movies but chose not to.
 
2013-08-17 08:17:40 PM  

FriarReb98: FloydA: I wouldn't even say that they are "bad" movies; just incredibly mediocre ones.   "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter" was a bad movie.  "Manos: The Hands of Fate" was a bad movie.  "The Terror" was a bad movie.

The prequels were dull, poorly written, and poorly directed, with a really, really bad actor playing Anakin.  They seemed like really bad movies because they could have been, and should have been great movies.

I think my addition is the key here.  Doesn't matter who the other characters are, when the key actor is horrible, it makes them look bad too.


I wholeheartedly agree. The Lloyd/Christensen casting is about 75% of the problem with the prequels. It amazes me how Christensen got WORSE from Ep 2 to Ep 3.
 
2013-08-17 08:21:30 PM  
Today must be hate Star Wars Prequel day. The prequels were perfect compliment to the originals...

They weren't that farking great to begone with...

THX 1138 was Lucas best sci fi movie.
 
2013-08-17 08:24:46 PM  
Other than Hayden Christensen being a crap actor, I thought they were decent movies. As a lot of others have said, they could have been a lot better though. Needing three movies to tell the back story of Vadar is beyond ridiculous when one would have sufficed.
 
2013-08-17 08:25:49 PM  

skinink: FriarReb98: FloydA: I wouldn't even say that they are "bad" movies; just incredibly mediocre ones.   "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter" was a bad movie.  "Manos: The Hands of Fate" was a bad movie.  "The Terror" was a bad movie.

The prequels were dull, poorly written, and poorly directed, with a really, really bad actor playing Anakin.  They seemed like really bad movies because they could have been, and should have been great movies.

I think my addition is the key here.  Doesn't matter who the other characters are, when the key actor is horrible, it makes them look bad too.

No, Hayden Christensen isn't a bad actor. He film made him look like a bad actor and the dame goes for Natalie Portman. I've seen other movies Hayden starred in and he's pretty good.

Besides, the prequels were just more or less "The Vader Chronicles". They could have done other things with the three movies but chose not to.


Either way, the trilogy goes down as the worst films of their respective careers.  As for the Vader Chronicles, I'm not sure more could've been done that would've helped the story in that sense.  The story theory wasn't necessarily bad, but most of the rest didn't keep up to the standards of the original trilogy, and that's where it all went wrong.
 
2013-08-17 08:29:35 PM  
Call me crazy, but that kid playing Anakin in episode one was much more annoying that Christensen.  That is without getting into jar jar...

/Ooops I hit a button and saved the day accidentally
 
2013-08-17 08:30:24 PM  

skinink: FriarReb98: FloydA: I wouldn't even say that they are "bad" movies; just incredibly mediocre ones.   "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter" was a bad movie.  "Manos: The Hands of Fate" was a bad movie.  "The Terror" was a bad movie.

The prequels were dull, poorly written, and poorly directed, with a really, really bad actor playing Anakin.  They seemed like really bad movies because they could have been, and should have been great movies.

I think my addition is the key here.  Doesn't matter who the other characters are, when the key actor is horrible, it makes them look bad too.

No, Hayden Christensen isn't a bad actor. He film made him look like a bad actor and the dame goes for Natalie Portman. I've seen other movies Hayden starred in and he's pretty good.


Ayup. Very few actors can make crap dialogue sound good.
 
2013-08-17 08:32:48 PM  

FloydA: I wouldn't even say that they are "bad" movies; just incredibly mediocre ones.   "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter" was a bad movie.  "Manos: The Hands of Fate" was a bad movie.  "The Terror" was a bad movie.

The prequels were dull, poorly written, and poorly directed.  They seemed like really bad movies because they could have been, and should have been great movies.


I see what you're saying. When Phantom Menace came out, I joined with what seemed like a gajillion folks for whom Star Wars was symbolic of their childhood. When the opening score and scrolling plot started, the entire theater erupted. It was magic.Have you ever been to a football game where the stomps and screams resonate the stadium? It was a lot like that.

Than we saw the actual film. It wasn't that as a standalone it was Manos, Hands of Fate. It's just really, really difficult to live up to something like Empire Strikes Back. Even Coppola couldn't regain his Godfather mojo for pt. 3.
 
2013-08-17 08:42:25 PM  

JohnnyC: I think a lot of people think they'll look cool by turning their noses up at Episodes 1, 2, and 3. Personally, I enjoyed them all quite a bit. They aren't perfect movies but I never expected them to be perfect.


They aren't REALLY bad. I mean, there's worse that have tried more. Insidious, to me, is a T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E movie. It tries to take itself seriously when it's a farking joke. SW prequels were almost the same way.
The problem with the prequels was too much hope. We ALL had this vision of what they would be and they weren't. Not even close.
My main problem, storywise, is that it took TOO farking long for Anakin to change and then when he did, it wasn't believable.
ONCE UPON A TIME showed how the Black Queen changed in ONE farking episode and was perfectly believable.
Lucas had too many Yes Men and it showed.
I won't even get into the obvious racism that he couldn't even see. Or....Jar Jar. I just look at Jar Jar as a failed attempt at humor which they slowly left behind in the next two movies.
But back the story, kids flocked to Star Wars for the aliens and space battles. In the prequels, we get 3/4's a movie dedicated to politics.

Politics.

Who farking cares?
In A New Hope, politics went like this:
"The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away."
"That's impossible! How will the Emperor maintain control without the bureaucracy?"
"The regional governors now have direct control over their territories."
"Fear will keep the local systems in line."
That was it and that's all we needed. Our minds filled in the rest.
These aren't Tale of Two Cities worthy. It's a Space Opera, but even opera has more action.
The only thing I love from the Phantom Menace is that it has one of the best fight scenes I ever saw. Ray Park killed it and made it better.
Other than that, the kid couldn't act worth a crap in PM.
I've never been wild about Portmans acting either. She always seems so stiff, like a Reese Witherspoon.
Hayden HAS acted. He wasn't bad in the Jumper movie, but the DIALOGUE.
When you have to read craptacular dialogue, I don't care if you're Morgan Freeman, it doesn't work.
 
2013-08-17 08:44:32 PM  
I remember going to a midnight showing of The Phantom Menace on the day it was released.  The atmosphere going in was festive. People were thrilled, dressed up in costumes, the whole thing.

I remember it being very, very silent as people walked out of the theatre afterwards.
 
2013-08-17 08:50:27 PM  
dickfreckle: I see what you're saying. When Phantom Menace came out, I joined with what seemed like a gajillion folks for whom Star Wars was symbolic of their childhood. When the opening score and scrolling plot started, the entire theater erupted. It was magic.Have you ever been to a football game where the stomps and screams resonate the stadium? It was a lot like that.

Than we saw the actual film.


I wanted to like it, I was psyched, i was ready to see a new star wars movie. Then... somewhere between midachlorians(sp?) and anakin being responsible for the existence of 3p0 it all started to come apart. By the time the movie ended I didnt even know what to think. I had so many problems withtit I was mentally reeling, and Im not THAt much of a fan, Im not a fanatic, but man I hated phantom. I grew up with star wars like many, saw the first one when I was 11... this was not the prequel I was hoping for by a Long shot. I couldnt hate the next 2 as much because I didnt care enough, I had been drained if enthusiasm by the first. the second one wasnt AS bad but it wasnt good, by the third one I didnt care at all.
 
2013-08-17 08:52:09 PM  
sorry about the italics.
 
2013-08-17 08:52:49 PM  
David Prowse is an asshole of course he hates things
but yeah prequels sucked
 
2013-08-17 08:56:32 PM  

FloydA: FriarReb98: FloydA: I wouldn't even say that they are "bad" movies; just incredibly mediocre ones.   "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter" was a bad movie.  "Manos: The Hands of Fate" was a bad movie.  "The Terror" was a bad movie.

The prequels were dull, poorly written, and poorly directed, with a really, really bad actor playing Anakin.  They seemed like really bad movies because they could have been, and should have been great movies.

I think my addition is the key here.  Doesn't matter who the other characters are, when the key actor is horrible, it makes them look bad too.


Wait a sec.  Are you trying to tell me HE was supposed to be an important character?  The whiny dude?

Huh, what do you know.  I guess they really were bad movies then.


That goes to the core of the issue. They took arguably one of the coolest villains ever and created a back story of a whiny little biatch with mommy issues.
 
2013-08-17 09:09:04 PM  

JohnnyC: I think a lot of people think they'll look cool by turning their noses up at Episodes 1, 2, and 3. Personally, I enjoyed them all quite a bit. They aren't perfect movies but I never expected them to be perfect.

Sometimes I think some of these folks simply hate Lucas because he was wildly and enormously successful and they would like to think they're better than him in one way or another. That old story... where someone must tear others or their work down to feel good about themselves.


The hate is maybe more passionate than is necessary, but so it goes.

Anyway, don't read too much into it.  While not the worst movies ever made, Episodes 1/2/3 were weak by comparison.  The "you're just jealous" argument is tired, even by Internet standards.
 
2013-08-17 09:11:59 PM  

fusillade762: skinink: FriarReb98: FloydA: I wouldn't even say that they are "bad" movies; just incredibly mediocre ones.   "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter" was a bad movie.  "Manos: The Hands of Fate" was a bad movie.  "The Terror" was a bad movie.

The prequels were dull, poorly written, and poorly directed, with a really, really bad actor playing Anakin.  They seemed like really bad movies because they could have been, and should have been great movies.

I think my addition is the key here.  Doesn't matter who the other characters are, when the key actor is horrible, it makes them look bad too.

No, Hayden Christensen isn't a bad actor. He film made him look like a bad actor and the dame goes for Natalie Portman. I've seen other movies Hayden starred in and he's pretty good.

Ayup. Very few actors can make crap dialogue sound good.


Actually, George Lucas doesn't believe in telling the actors how to act. He figures they should know how do do their jobs. Christopher Lee, Ian Macdarmind , Ewan Macgreggor, Liam Neasan all did great work because Lucas left them alone. In fact, Lee commented on that Lucas was the most fun to work for.

By Revenge of the Sith, Portman an Hayden upped their game when they realized they were responsible for their own acting.
 
2013-08-17 09:26:13 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: fusillade762: skinink: FriarReb98: FloydA: I wouldn't even say that they are "bad" movies; just incredibly mediocre ones.   "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter" was a bad movie.  "Manos: The Hands of Fate" was a bad movie.  "The Terror" was a bad movie.

The prequels were dull, poorly written, and poorly directed, with a really, really bad actor playing Anakin.  They seemed like really bad movies because they could have been, and should have been great movies.

I think my addition is the key here.  Doesn't matter who the other characters are, when the key actor is horrible, it makes them look bad too.

No, Hayden Christensen isn't a bad actor. He film made him look like a bad actor and the dame goes for Natalie Portman. I've seen other movies Hayden starred in and he's pretty good.

Ayup. Very few actors can make crap dialogue sound good.

Actually, George Lucas doesn't believe in telling the actors how to act. He figures they should know how do do their jobs. Christopher Lee, Ian Macdarmind , Ewan Macgreggor, Liam Neasan all did great work because Lucas left them alone. In fact, Lee commented on that Lucas was the most fun to work for.

By Revenge of the Sith, Portman an Hayden upped their game when they realized they were responsible for their own acting.


I agree with this statement until the "upped their game" part. Portman has always been overrated and Christensen shouldn't be doing anything that wasn't an exclusive for Hulu soap.
 
2013-08-17 09:41:26 PM  
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2013-08-17 09:41:45 PM  

fusillade762: skinink: FriarReb98: FloydA: I wouldn't even say that they are "bad" movies; just incredibly mediocre ones.   "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter" was a bad movie.  "Manos: The Hands of Fate" was a bad movie.  "The Terror" was a bad movie.

The prequels were dull, poorly written, and poorly directed, with a really, really bad actor playing Anakin.  They seemed like really bad movies because they could have been, and should have been great movies.

I think my addition is the key here.  Doesn't matter who the other characters are, when the key actor is horrible, it makes them look bad too.

No, Hayden Christensen isn't a bad actor. He film made him look like a bad actor and the dame goes for Natalie Portman. I've seen other movies Hayden starred in and he's pretty good.

Ayup. Very few actors can make crap dialogue sound good.


Piling on here.

I've said this for a while. I don't blame Christensen for his acting. (Mind you I haven't seen much of his other work, he might just suck.)

Those moves had a lot of stars in them... no pun intended. When you, as a writer and director, can make Natalie Portman, Samuel L. Jackson, Liam Neeson, Ewan McGregor, Christopher Lee, et al boring,flat and wooden... well that's quite an accomplishment. I don't think I would've cast any of them in another movie had it not been for each of their successful bodies of work previous to the trilogy.
 
2013-08-17 09:48:02 PM  
BITTER disappointments all.

star wars mighta been space western nonsense
but it had a beating heart

at least.
 
2013-08-17 09:50:09 PM  

JohnnyC: I think a lot of people think they'll look cool by turning their noses up at Episodes 1, 2, and 3. Personally, I enjoyed them all quite a bit. They aren't perfect movies but I never expected them to be perfect.

Sometimes I think some of these folks simply hate Lucas because he was wildly and enormously successful and they would like to think they're better than him in one way or another. That old story... where someone must tear others or their work down to feel good about themselves.


Don't think too much. You'll strain your brain. The movies were bad, but especially in comparison with the first three. The fact that they were marketed so heavily and people had to wait almost twenty years for made it exponentially worse from an experience standpoint. I was thirteen and I was thinking how stupid Episode 1 was when it came out.

Also bear in mind Lucas explicitly approved tons of EU and then over wrote it with significantly worse shiat, and a lot of the EU material was so-so to begin with.
 
2013-08-17 09:54:01 PM  
The one thing that makes me glad that Star Wars Episiode I: The Phantom Menace was made is that without it, we would never have had this awesomesauce.
 
2013-08-17 10:11:43 PM  

NutWrench: Lucas gets WAY too much credit for "inventing" Star Wars. He had much more talented people working for him (John Dykstra, John Williams and Ralph McQuarrie in particular. I think Lucas would have made a terrific special effects director but he can't write a decent story to save his life and he is terrible at directing people. Most of those talented people are long gone and now he's cloistered himself among computer animators and folks who are afraid to challenge his dumb ideas.


Not to mention Marcia Lucas completely re-editing Star Wars before release to make it watchable.
 
2013-08-17 10:11:55 PM  

zamboni: fusillade762: skinink: FriarReb98: FloydA: I wouldn't even say that they are "bad" movies; just incredibly mediocre ones.   "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter" was a bad movie.  "Manos: The Hands of Fate" was a bad movie.  "The Terror" was a bad movie.

The prequels were dull, poorly written, and poorly directed, with a really, really bad actor playing Anakin.  They seemed like really bad movies because they could have been, and should have been great movies.

I think my addition is the key here.  Doesn't matter who the other characters are, when the key actor is horrible, it makes them look bad too.

No, Hayden Christensen isn't a bad actor. He film made him look like a bad actor and the dame goes for Natalie Portman. I've seen other movies Hayden starred in and he's pretty good.

Ayup. Very few actors can make crap dialogue sound good.

Piling on here.

I've said this for a while. I don't blame Christensen for his acting. (Mind you I haven't seen much of his other work, he might just suck.)

Those moves had a lot of stars in them... no pun intended. When you, as a writer and director, can make Natalie Portman, Samuel L. Jackson, Liam Neeson, Ewan McGregor, Christopher Lee, et al boring,flat and wooden... well that's quite an accomplishment. I don't think I would've cast any of them in another movie had it not been for each of their successful bodies of work previous to the trilogy.


Thank you.
 
2013-08-17 10:20:59 PM  
Yes the prequels were bad.  Not just bad but awful.  I think there was really an issue where Lucas thought what amused him was actually good to put in a movie.  Jar Jar Binks being a case in point.

It has been pointed out the with Up, Pixar created a better love story in the first 20 minutes than Lucas did in 3 movies.  Lucas does not know how to write.  He is like Michael Bay with transformers, he expects special effects to carry the film and audiences to ignore things like massive plot holes.
 
2013-08-17 10:24:03 PM  
Oh and I want to post these pics since Darth Vader is in the headline.

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th04.deviantart.net
 
2013-08-17 10:34:43 PM  
I know it's been a long, long time ago, but let's not forget that Empire Strikes Back was directed by Irvin Kershner.

Return of the Jedi was directed by Richard Marquand.

The Star Wars episodes that people really loved were not directed by Lucas at all.
 
2013-08-17 10:36:47 PM  

JohnnyC
2013-08-17 08:09:03 PM


I think a lot of people think they'll look cool by turning their noses up at Episodes 1, 2, and 3. Personally, I enjoyed them all quite a bit. They aren't perfect movies but I never expected them to be perfect.

Sometimes I think some of these folks simply hate Lucas because he was wildly and enormously successful and they would like to think they're better than him in one way or another. That old story... where someone must tear others or their work down to feel good about themselves.

I'm sure for some, your idea does fit, but for a lot of others that's simply not the case.

I grew up on the old films and I'm ok with the new ones just not being for me. Would I have liked more films targeted at us long time fans? Sure, but GL and co. figured out my 10 dollar ticket is nowhere near the market as a family with 2.x kids 10 dollar tickets and 2 years worth of x-mas and birthday present sales.

So the new films suck.. BFD. I hate the sonofabiatch not for that, but for what he's done to the old films and the middle finger he's given us long time fans.
 
2013-08-17 10:51:01 PM  
People give Lucas way too much shiat.  He wrote and directed the original.   It was huge.  it's still huge.   If it had sucked....ESB would never have been made.
 
2013-08-17 11:00:58 PM  
I thought Hayden Christensen did the best he could with the lines he was given but what can you really do with stuff like the "I don't like sand" speech without it sounding awful? My favorite reviews of the prequels have to be the Red Letter Media ones, because they are both hilarious and on-point and don't come off sounding like the Simpsons Comic Book Guy. (They also address almost every criticism I had of all three movies).

The Phantom Menace

Attack of the Clones

Revenge of the Sith

(youtube, some language NSFW)
 
2013-08-17 11:52:01 PM  
I saw the first one in the theater when it came out, and I remember by the race thing thinking "wait... I came for a movie, but I'm watching a video game".

And put me in with the people who think Portman is a crap actress. The only reason anyone should care about her is she did a sex scene with Mila Kunis.
 
2013-08-18 12:01:00 AM  

zamboni: fusillade762: skinink: FriarReb98: FloydA: I wouldn't even say that they are "bad" movies; just incredibly mediocre ones.   "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter" was a bad movie.  "Manos: The Hands of Fate" was a bad movie.  "The Terror" was a bad movie.

The prequels were dull, poorly written, and poorly directed, with a really, really bad actor playing Anakin.  They seemed like really bad movies because they could have been, and should have been great movies.

I think my addition is the key here.  Doesn't matter who the other characters are, when the key actor is horrible, it makes them look bad too.

No, Hayden Christensen isn't a bad actor. He film made him look like a bad actor and the dame goes for Natalie Portman. I've seen other movies Hayden starred in and he's pretty good.

Ayup. Very few actors can make crap dialogue sound good.

Piling on here.

I've said this for a while. I don't blame Christensen for his acting. (Mind you I haven't seen much of his other work, he might just suck.)

Those moves had a lot of stars in them... no pun intended. When you, as a writer and director, can make Natalie Portman, Samuel L. Jackson, Liam Neeson, Ewan McGregor, Christopher Lee, et al boring,flat and wooden... well that's quite an accomplishment. I don't think I would've cast any of them in another movie had it not been for each of their successful bodies of work previous to the trilogy.


Shattered Glass was a pretty decent movie.  Objectively,  I don't know how good Christensen was in it, but he seemed better in it than he did in the prequels.  Granted, the movie itself was oodles better than the prequel stuff.  From what I remember, he wasn't terrible in Life as a House either.  He played a whiny teenager (Anakin like), but his character had more depth than Anakin could ever hope for.
 
2013-08-18 12:17:10 AM  
To be perfectly honest, A New Hope was a bad movie too.  The acting was wooden, the script was hackneyed, the plot was predictable.  The only thing it had going for it was the effects, which were amazing for when it was made.  But to the 11-13 year old kids we were when we first saw it, it was the greatest movie ever.. If you disagree, watch it again compared to other big sci-fi movies from the same era.
 
2013-08-18 12:25:54 AM  
To everyone raggin' on Lloyd/Christensen about playing a whiny character, the precedent for whiny was already well-established: "But I was going to Toshi Station to pick up some power converters!"
 
2013-08-18 12:35:12 AM  
Horrible acting, stupid plots, and jar jar aside, what pissed me off most about the prequels was the treatment of Darth Maul. Here we have a genuine badass villain, arguably more powerful than our heroes, and he gets cut in half and replaced by ancient Count Poodoo (no offense to the esteemed Mr. Lee). Maul didn't have to die to move the story along. It was just dumb.
 
2013-08-18 12:45:09 AM  
I've been saying the same thing about the originals for years.

/watched them each close to a dozen times
//still think it's unadulterated rat shat
 
2013-08-18 01:33:01 AM  
Nothing can redeem Artoo Detoo flying around with little rockets in his legs.

/Turned fifteen in 1977. I know from Star Wars.
 
2013-08-18 02:09:41 AM  
I have never wanted three movies to get a reboot so much in my life. The original trilogy might not be the best thing ever but I still enjoy watching them. Can't say the same about the prequels.
 
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