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(The American Spectator)   What does it take to be a 'real journalist' in the 21st Century?   (spectator.org) divider line 37
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2013-08-17 08:06:59 AM
For one, it involves not writing for The American Spectator.
 
2013-08-17 08:17:46 AM
One of those 'Press' cards that you stick in the band on your fedora.

Also I guess you'll need a fedora.

So that's two things.
 
2013-08-17 08:32:07 AM
Only write what they want you write. Right!
 
2013-08-17 09:33:44 AM
This is a good start:

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/08/us/oldest-cold-case/ch5.html?h p t=hp_t5">http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/08/us/oldest-cold-case/c h5.html?hp t=hp_t5
 
2013-08-17 09:56:52 AM
Sarah Palin is a journalist.

That's pretty much all you need to know about it.
 
2013-08-17 10:07:39 AM
Camera phone and a blog.
 
2013-08-17 12:14:10 PM
Judging by the examples of Nate Silver and Glenn Greenwald, I'm going to say that it has something to do with being gay.

/nttawwt
 
2013-08-17 12:56:24 PM

Apparently, not much.

www.flycandydc.com

Although being the ex president's daughter helps....
 
2013-08-17 01:47:39 PM
Having been fired at least once.
 
2013-08-17 01:59:46 PM

Cake Hunter: One of those 'Press' cards that you stick in the band on your fedora.
Also I guess you'll need a fedora.
So that's two things.


I've heard that the fedora suffices, provided it is cheap, gray, battered, and has at least one black ink stain.
 
2013-08-17 03:02:31 PM
PGP
Integrity
Fact Checking
 
2013-08-17 03:06:47 PM
An audience.
 
2013-08-17 03:15:52 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Judging by the examples of Nate Silver and Glenn Greenwald, I'm going to say that it has something to do with being gay.

/nttawwt


And Jeff Gannon
 
2013-08-17 03:32:35 PM

RexTalionis: For one, it involves not writing for The American Spectator.


Done in one.
 
2013-08-17 03:33:31 PM
First and foremost, I believe that journalists should be adversarial toward the government and not an extension of it.  That's why the 1st Amendment was first.  It was supposed to be the most important one.

Investigative journalism just isn't being done anymore.  There are exceptions, but they are very rare.


/seriously, if George Stephanopoulos is taken seriously as an impartial news anchor/journalist at ABC, then Karl Rove should be the prime-time news anchor/journalist at FOX
 
2013-08-17 04:11:18 PM
Well, she didn't get very far in her attack of the 2nd amendment, so on to the 1st!


Neighborhood Watch: First and foremost, I believe that journalists should be adversarial toward the government and not an extension of it.  That's why the 1st Amendment was first.  It was supposed to be the most important one.


Actually it ended up as the first because the "original" first amendment wasn't ratified.

Here is the text of the original first:

After the first enumeration required by the first article of the Constitution, there shall be one representative for every thirty thousand, until the number shall amount to one hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than one hundred representatives, nor less than one representative for every forty thousand persons, until the number of representatives shall amount to two hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than two hundred representatives, nor more than one representative for every fifty thousand.

I totally wish it had passed though. We'd have about 6000 representatives. Legislation would be much more fun than it is now.
 
2013-08-17 04:14:54 PM
I work in a national tv newsroom, as best as I understand you need to go to J-school, be insensitive as fark despite being a raging liberal, enjoy puns, be cynical about your career going nowhere and get high or drunk as soon as you leave.
 
2013-08-17 04:16:13 PM
You need the AIPAC seal of approval to be a real journalist in American media.
 
2013-08-17 04:16:59 PM
After starting off rather derpy that piece develops into a rather interesting essay on privacy, sourcing and journalistic credentials. The answer to who is a journalist is a slippery one. If the federal government is going to offer a shield law to protect journalists it would be very easy for anyone with a camera phone and a blog, as someone said, to claim they are a journalist.

Feinstein apparently wants to define it as someone who gets paid to be a journalist. Again, tricky. If someone says they are a freelance journalist hoping to sell a story they are writing with the expectation they will be paid.

But mostly, we need transparency on government's part when it comes to pursuing leakers. The AP phone records, the threat of prosecution for the Fox reporter and other recent cases are chilling efforts to lock down government information and silence government employees, not the sort of government we should want or need.
 
2013-08-17 04:17:17 PM

abb3w: Cake Hunter: One of those 'Press' cards that you stick in the band on your fedora.
Also I guess you'll need a fedora.
So that's two things.

I've heard that the fedora suffices, provided it is cheap, gray, battered, and has at least one black ink stain.


The fedora theory would work, except...you know...Matt Drudge.
 
2013-08-17 04:19:20 PM
How about taking your sweet time and effort into summarizing stories of recent events? 24/7 media journalism basically has everyone jumping the gun to get it first and get all the views. I can wait until 8PM for what happened over wherever if I'd be given accurate details and facts.

"We are here LIVE to what sounded like an explosion. It's believed to be a gas station explosion with one dead. No wait...twenty. No...four thousand...wait...I'm sorry but it seems our explosion was just a scene from an action movie played full blast on a television in somebody's backyard."
 
2013-08-17 05:13:07 PM

The Lone Gunman: abb3w: Cake Hunter: One of those 'Press' cards that you stick in the band on your fedora.
Also I guess you'll need a fedora.
So that's two things.

I've heard that the fedora suffices, provided it is cheap, gray, battered, and has at least one black ink stain.

The fedora theory would work, except...you know...Matt Drudge.


The press cards still exist, but the fedoras (fedorae?) have mostly been replaced by lanyards. Drudge is somebody who has seen His Girl Friday twenty times and thought it would be fun to pretend to be a journalist. To give him his due, however, pretend journalism can pay pretty well.
 
2013-08-17 05:28:06 PM

The Lone Gunman: abb3w: Cake Hunter: One of those 'Press' cards that you stick in the band on your fedora.
Also I guess you'll need a fedora.
So that's two things.

I've heard that the fedora suffices, provided it is cheap, gray, battered, and has at least one black ink stain.

The fedora theory would work, except...you know...Matt Drudge.


I thought Fedoras had been subsumed as the symbol of Nice GuysTM

sites.google.com
 
2013-08-17 05:46:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIUeEpTLBvQ">http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=RIUeEpTLBvQ
 
2013-08-17 05:58:25 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Camera phone and a blog.


Unless your blog sucks.
 
2013-08-17 06:01:39 PM
Sucking Obama's Dick.

So, has everyone seen that YouTube Vid called "Two Journalist's - One Obama Cup"? They really seem to like his shiat.
 
2013-08-17 06:05:59 PM

Brick-House: Sucking Obama's Dick.


The obsession continues.
 
2013-08-17 06:10:16 PM
I just agreed with an American Spectator article.  I feel dirty.

/This war on whistleblowers need to stop
//Privileging the establishment press, who are often little more than corporate and government stenographers, over every independent web journalist is a terrible idea - even though many blogs do suck.
 
2013-08-17 06:56:35 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Brick-House: Sucking Obama's Dick.

The obsession continues.


I'm at least half-convinced Brick-House is one of your alts.
 
2013-08-17 07:36:55 PM

Brick-House: Sucking Obama's Dick.

So, has everyone seen that YouTube Vid called "Two Journalist's - One Obama Cup"? They really seem to like his shiat.


Surely you will back up your assertion with examples of widespread media bias. An article not explicitly promoting neocon talking points does not count. And no, a cherry-picked writer doesn't count as an entire industry fellating the president.

I swear you people see persecution behind every tree. Did it ever occur to you that your own factual actions are what makes the press seem biased against you?
 
2013-08-17 07:38:28 PM

utahraptor2: I'm at least half-convinced Brick-House is one of your alts


Eh, Ninah's Ass is actually funny sometimes. I'm convinced that Brick really is that stupid.
 
2013-08-17 08:36:30 PM

dickfreckle: Brick-House: Sucking Obama's Dick.

So, has everyone seen that YouTube Vid called "Two Journalist's - One Obama Cup"? They really seem to like his shiat.

Surely you will back up your assertion with examples of widespread media bias. An article not explicitly promoting neocon talking points does not count. And no, a cherry-picked writer doesn't count as an entire industry fellating the president.

I swear you people see persecution behind every tree. Did it ever occur to you that your own factual actions are what makes the press seem biased against you?


Republicans are nothing without enemies. Without something to fear (Communism, terrorism, liberals, minorities, poor people...), they wouldn't be Republicans.
 
2013-08-17 10:21:29 PM

Cake Hunter: One of those 'Press' cards that you stick in the band on your fedora.

Also I guess you'll need a fedora.

So that's two things.


They're pork-pie hats. Not fedoras.
 
2013-08-18 04:27:53 AM
Link doesn't load for me... Is that the joke?
 
2013-08-18 04:29:05 AM

Neighborhood Watch: First and foremost, I believe that journalists should be adversarial toward the government and not an extension of it.  That's why the 1st Amendment was first.  It was supposed to be the most important one.

Investigative journalism just isn't being done anymore.  There are exceptions, but they are very rare.


/seriously, if George Stephanopoulos is taken seriously as an impartial news anchor/journalist at ABC, then Karl Rove should be the prime-time news anchor/journalist at FOX


He'll, editing isn't even being done anymore. Baby steps, dude...
 
2013-08-18 06:23:14 AM
What, is Bricky some kinda p33n0r worshiper?
 
2013-08-18 12:40:02 PM
A real journalist today?

All you need is a lack of integrity.
 
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