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(All Things D)   If you want a smartphone that transforms into a PC and runs both Ubuntu and Android, you only have a few days to raise another $20,000,000 in crowdfunding   (allthingsd.com) divider line 23
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2013-08-17 03:00:49 AM
I love Linux.  I make a living with it.  But this is a really stupid farking idea.
 
2013-08-17 03:24:14 AM

OgreMagi: I love Linux.  I make a living with it.  But this is a really stupid farking idea.


I think it's ambitious, and possibly an idea that will catch on in the future, but it isn't ready for prime time yet.

I'm also not sure about the idea of a dual-boot phone.  If Canonical is solidly behind the idea of Ubuntu as a mobile platform, they should be pushing for development of apps for mobile devices on Ubuntu, not punting by making a device that's Android when you use it as a phone, and Ubuntu when you use it as a docked computer.
 
2013-08-17 03:45:54 AM

OgreMagi: I love Linux.  I make a living with it.  But this is a really stupid farking idea.


I loved Linux back when it came on floppies and people didn't name releases things like "Syphilitic Seahorse," and still use it (Ubuntu, even) all the time at work, but think this device fills a much-needed hole.
 
2013-08-17 05:02:25 AM

dbirchall: OgreMagi: I love Linux.  I make a living with it.  But this is a really stupid farking idea.

I loved Linux back when it came on floppies and people didn't name releases things like "Syphilitic Seahorse," and still use it (Ubuntu, even) all the time at work, but think this device fills a much-needed hole.


Niche is marketing speak for ideas that really only fill specific needs.

There are too many ideas in my head already concerning this thing. When I see it I'm wondering what mobile computing/browsing need it COULDN'T fill.

A tool is only as good as the mind considering its use. Perhaps the problem is that everyone wants their thinking done for them.
 
2013-08-17 10:50:10 AM
If I wanted the processing power of a smartphone as a computer I'd just buy an AMD based system.
 
2013-08-17 10:57:17 AM

dbirchall: OgreMagi: I love Linux.  I make a living with it.  But this is a really stupid farking idea.

I loved Linux back when it came on floppies and people didn't name releases things like "Syphilitic Seahorse," and still use it (Ubuntu, even) all the time at work, but think this device fills a much-needed hole.


Perhaps if they had a greased up naked woman on all fours with a leather glove being pushed into her face as a logo it would get more money.
 
ecl
2013-08-17 11:09:42 AM
I'd buy it.
 
2013-08-17 11:14:19 AM
I've been using Ubuntu for a while now. I'm currently on 13.04.
And I think Mark Shuttleworth and the rest of the people behind Ubuntu need to pull their heads out and start shipping versions of the OS that actually work, before even considering things like Ubuntu phones.
(How 'bout that low graphics mode bug? Or the MS-CHAP authentication bug?)
 
2013-08-17 11:24:41 AM

dbirchall: OgreMagi: I love Linux.  I make a living with it.  But this is a really stupid farking idea.

I loved Linux back when it came on floppies and people didn't name releases things like "Syphilitic Seahorse," and still use it (Ubuntu, even) all the time at work, but think this device fills a much-needed hole.


The hole of 'Linux users too stupid to buy an ATOM based phone, root it, and install Linux as dual boot?'

or

The hole of "Linux users too stupid to buy a phone enabled iCore based tablet and install Linux as dual boot?"

/Either way, much-needed is the wrong word
//It's not a stupid idea, just not what people want
///Dual boot between Android phone and Windows desktop is closer to what people want
 
2013-08-17 11:29:13 AM
so.... a raspberry pi?


also, if I use my smartphones HDMI video output to hook it up the TV to use as a display and then synch a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to the phone, can I have $20,000,000 too?
 
2013-08-17 12:07:50 PM
They really should have pushed it as an Android Phone that can also run full on Linux and made a bigger deal out of it's insane specs.

I think the OS itself has a good shot, especially in China.
 
2013-08-17 12:14:11 PM

thrasherrr: dbirchall: OgreMagi: I love Linux.  I make a living with it.  But this is a really stupid farking idea.

I loved Linux back when it came on floppies and people didn't name releases things like "Syphilitic Seahorse," and still use it (Ubuntu, even) all the time at work, but think this device fills a much-needed hole.

The hole of 'Linux users too stupid to buy an ATOM based phone, root it, and install Linux as dual boot?'

or

The hole of "Linux users too stupid to buy a phone enabled iCore based tablet and install Linux as dual boot?"

/Either way, much-needed is the wrong word
//It's not a stupid idea, just not what people want
///Dual boot between Android phone and Windows desktop is closer to what people want


What I personally want is a dual boot between a PS4 and a Windows desktop, but I like your idea too.


androidheadlines.com
Also, the last version of this wasn't a huge success.
 
2013-08-17 12:26:26 PM
Seems pretty funny given Ubuntu crashes like mad on anything but a VM or popular hardware.

This linux installer works pretty good if you want linux on your phone along side android.
 
2013-08-17 12:27:08 PM
I'm sure there are a lot of these gathering dust somewhere that want a chance to be a combo smartphone/pc:

images.pcworld.com
Heard a lot of noise about the Kyocera Echo at first, then nothing.  Was it really worth getting?

/also hot like dual-screen phone that could flatten out into a pseudo-tablet.
 
2013-08-17 01:28:56 PM

Robots are Strong: What I personally want is a dual boot between a PS4 and a Windows desktop


66.147.244.204
 
2013-08-17 02:06:48 PM
I've got a dual boot for you: my foot and the campaign organizers' asses.
 
2013-08-17 02:38:28 PM
The specs vs. price point actually would make it a pretty badass phone.  I like the idea of sapphire screen and camera optimized for close pictures.

The dual-LTE for 4G roaming... not so much.  $10,000 phone bill in 2 minutes!
 
2013-08-17 03:56:32 PM
For all 3 people who want to use Linux as a desktop OS.
 
2013-08-17 06:26:46 PM
I like the idea of a phone that's also a computer, but it doesn't seem like they've put much (if any) thought into that yet. Also the Ubuntu Touch interface has a lot of common ground with Windows 8 Metro, so that will probably piss a lot of folks off just on principle.

(Full disclosure: worked on one of the apps that ships with Ubuntu Touch.)
 
2013-08-17 08:35:03 PM

dbirchall: OgreMagi: I love Linux.  I make a living with it.  But this is a really stupid farking idea.

I loved Linux back when it came on floppies and people didn't name releases things like "Syphilitic Seahorse," and still use it (Ubuntu, even) all the time at work, but think this device fills a much-needed hole.


data.whicdn.com
 
2013-08-17 09:37:24 PM

fang06554: The specs vs. price point actually would make it a pretty badass phone.  I like the idea of sapphire screen and camera optimized for close pictures.

The dual-LTE for 4G roaming... not so much.  $10,000 phone bill in 2 minutes!


No US carrier allows LTE roaming, do they? And a dual-band LTE phone that hasn't even started development is way behind the curve. The Sprint LG G2 is already going to be tri-band, as will all future Sprint LTE phones (at least if they want to sell). Verizon may also have three LTE bands by next year as well.
 
2013-08-18 07:33:37 AM
$20M to develop this? I call BS.
 
2013-08-19 12:58:04 AM

Bisu: fang06554: The specs vs. price point actually would make it a pretty badass phone.  I like the idea of sapphire screen and camera optimized for close pictures.

The dual-LTE for 4G roaming... not so much.  $10,000 phone bill in 2 minutes!

No US carrier allows LTE roaming, do they? And a dual-band LTE phone that hasn't even started development is way behind the curve. The Sprint LG G2 is already going to be tri-band, as will all future Sprint LTE phones (at least if they want to sell). Verizon may also have three LTE bands by next year as well.


That is correct - the only carrier in the world that allows LTE roaming is NTT Docomo in Japan. Many carriers will be launching LTE roaming late Q4 and early 2014
 
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