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(Daily Mail)   Moyes is already whining like SAF, Wenger has spent £80 on a wheelie bin and stale chips, and the Special One is already stirring the pot. Colour me chuffed, it's the start of the 2013/14 English Premier League season   (dailymail.co.uk ) divider line
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2013-08-18 01:16:59 PM  

Gosling: Stimied in a Rut: Well that second half was super boring.  At least spurs won this morning and we still have one more match tomorrow.

I have to say, I could get used to a constant firehose of soccer. Though I'd really like it if FIFA made their own channel, like MLB Network and NFL Network, and then they could air any random game from any random league they couldn't otherwise sell to an international audience. Stick a Russian league match on there one day, air a Nigerian game the next day, a Malaysian game the next, a Paraguayan game the next, you get the idea.


I can say that I've watch some of every single match this weekend. Sure, I watched maybe 5 minutes West Brom-Southhampton; but it's still more than I would've been able to see of it in the past. It is awesome that we're getting this much of the EPL now.

Yes, NBC has had hiccups (which are to be expected on opening weekend). And yes, Arlo White may be trying a bit too hard at times. But generally speaking, the coverage has been superb. There's no criticism that I have that isn't fixable without sacking someone. It's not often that you can say that about US sports TV.
 
2013-08-18 01:46:43 PM  

Gosling: Stimied in a Rut: Well that second half was super boring.  At least spurs won this morning and we still have one more match tomorrow.

I have to say, I could get used to a constant firehose of soccer. Though I'd really like it if FIFA made their own channel, like MLB Network and NFL Network, and then they could air any random game from any random league they couldn't otherwise sell to an international audience. Stick a Russian league match on there one day, air a Nigerian game the next day, a Malaysian game the next, a Paraguayan game the next, you get the idea.


I'm okay with this.
 
2013-08-18 02:18:57 PM  

Princip's Sandwich: krej55: If this holds I'll have fifty points to start. Not to bad since I don't know what I'm doing. Reading through the thread it seems putting my banker on arsenal was a mistake in strategy from the get go. Is this just haters hating or is there a reason for that?

It's the wise thing to do, as Arsenal will fall apart just as you think they've finally figured it out.


The rule of thumb last year was never bet against West Brom and never put your banker on Arsnal. Of all they "top" teams they blew it more times than an evening at G.A.Y.
 
2013-08-18 02:21:36 PM  

Gosling: Stimied in a Rut: Well that second half was super boring.  At least spurs won this morning and we still have one more match tomorrow.

I have to say, I could get used to a constant firehose of soccer. Though I'd really like it if FIFA made their own channel, like MLB Network and NFL Network, and then they could air any random game from any random league they couldn't otherwise sell to an international audience. Stick a Russian league match on there one day, air a Nigerian game the next day, a Malaysian game the next, a Paraguayan game the next, you get the idea.


Check your channel listing for Bein Sports. I've seen them showing French, Spanish, Russian, and English Championship games.
 
2013-08-18 04:03:28 PM  

StRalphTheLiar: Check your channel listing for Bein Sports. I've seen them showing French, Spanish, Russian, and English Championship games.


We don't get that channel here, but I'm talking just a catch-all channel for all the smaller leagues no other network would buy. Nobody in their right mind is going to buy the rights to the Kenyan league, or the Albanian league, or the Aruban league, but you have a FIFA Network, once in a while they could slap something up from those leagues if for no other reason than novelty. No, I'm not interested in following the Cambodian league long-term, but I could stand to see one game of it.
 
2013-08-18 04:35:35 PM  
Manchester United's trophy count: 20 league titles, 11 FA Cups, four League Cups, three European Cups, and one European Cup Winners Cup.

Manchester United's trophy count when not managed by Sir Matt or Sir Alex: two league titles, four FA Cups.
 
2013-08-18 11:35:31 PM  

Gosling: No, I'm not interested in following the Cambodian league long-term, but I could stand to see one game of it.


You're alone there.
 
2013-08-18 11:42:07 PM  
 
2013-08-19 07:14:41 AM  

desertgeek: More Arsenal shiat hitting the fan...

An Arsenal fan calls out Wegner and the board on video.

A former shareholder and current honorary VP of the club voices regret at selling her shares of the club to Stan Kroenke, the majority owner, calls for changes to the board.


I would say this to Arsenal fans, it's one game and you still have 2 weeks left in the window. Don't panic (totally) yet. Liverpool went 0-5 to start last season and we still ended up 6th. You can make a run.
 
2013-08-19 08:00:39 AM  

Chupacabra Sandwich: Gosling: No, I'm not interested in following the Cambodian league long-term, but I could stand to see one game of it.

You're alone there.


I don't know, who doesn't love match-fixing and a dangerous lack of security?
 
2013-08-19 08:53:41 AM  

ADubs86: desertgeek: More Arsenal shiat hitting the fan...

An Arsenal fan calls out Wegner and the board on video.

A former shareholder and current honorary VP of the club voices regret at selling her shares of the club to Stan Kroenke, the majority owner, calls for changes to the board.

I would say this to Arsenal fans, it's one game and you still have 2 weeks left in the window. Don't panic (totally) yet. Liverpool went 0-5 to start last season and we still ended up 6th. You can make a run.


As an outsider to the Arsenal issue the problem is not the results on the days, its that Arsenal has been left behind. Man Utd, Man City and Chelsea have pushed on and have got better and better leaving Arsenal behind to make up the best of the rest. Arsenal are now not competing against Man U/C and Chelsea for the title they are competing against Spurs and Liverpool for the last Champions League place. If Man Utd managed to push on without a billionaire sugar daddy then why can't Arsenal?
 
2013-08-19 08:55:50 AM  

ScouserDuck: Princip's Sandwich: It's quite amazing no one's tried to get Michu. Guy's always plugged into the game.

Arsenal has thought about possibly making an offer on him.


Wizard?!
 
2013-08-19 10:09:28 AM  

Norfolking Chance: As an outsider to the Arsenal issue the problem is not the results on the days, its that Arsenal has been left behind. Man Utd, Man City and Chelsea have pushed on and have got better and better leaving Arsenal behind to make up the best of the rest. Arsenal are now not competing against Man U/C and Chelsea for the title they are competing against Spurs and Liverpool for the last Champions League place. If Man Utd managed to push on without a billionaire sugar daddy then why can't Arsenal?


United had the benefit of one of the greatest managers the footballing world has ever seen on their side, plus an international brand bigger than some Fortune 500 companies. They didn't need a billionaire sugar daddy. My post was more towards the people calling for Wenger's head after one match. They were the same one's calling for it after the 8-2, and he still got them into CL. I'm not saying the man's perfect, he isn't, but this loss isn't the end of the world, nor is his lack of movement so far in the window cause for panic. Concern, yes, but not panic.
 
2013-08-19 11:44:05 AM  
Man Utd offered £28 million to Everton for Marouane Fellaini and Leighton Baines but Everton rejected it as "derisory and insulting."

As a Liverpool fan, I can be neutral on this as I hate both clubs: Everton should hold on to them unless Utd offers almost double that number for those two combined. Drop those two and Everton will be fighting for a mid-table spot instead of a Europa League spot.
 
2013-08-19 02:31:56 PM  
It's the start of the EPL....two days ago.
 
2013-08-19 02:33:07 PM  
And Rosicky is hurt, what a shocker.

Sorry Arsenal fans, when you strive for fourth because that's the CL in your mind, I will cheer against you and hope you only get EL money.
 
2013-08-19 02:34:18 PM  
Come On City (specifically Aguero and Navas, who are in my fantasy team)!
 
2013-08-19 02:40:07 PM  
I have a co-worker who's a huge Newcastle fan. I've really felt bad for her during the off-season. The club's answer to almost getting relegated has been... do nothing. At least Arsenal stood fast with a CL-level squad.

This is going to be a long year for the Toon Army, I think.
 
2013-08-19 02:42:47 PM  

Gosling: Stimied in a Rut: Well that second half was super boring.  At least spurs won this morning and we still have one more match tomorrow.

I have to say, I could get used to a constant firehose of soccer. Though I'd really like it if FIFA made their own channel, like MLB Network and NFL Network, and then they could air any random game from any random league they couldn't otherwise sell to an international audience. Stick a Russian league match on there one day, air a Nigerian game the next day, a Malaysian game the next, a Paraguayan game the next, you get the idea.


I have that living in Central Europe, but zero EPL without paying for Sky. 4-5 channels consistently with a match on. This weekend I caught the Ajax-Feyenoord derby and a smattering of Bundesliga. If this is really what you want, everything is on firstrow, all they way down to 2. Bundesliga and the Hungarian league.

But then again, I'll watch any derby.
 
2013-08-19 02:44:00 PM  

desertgeek: And yes, Arlo White may be trying a bit too hard at times.


I'm sure other people have mentioned this a bunch of times, but White was literally a one-man booth for the Sounders telecasts, so I can definitely see where he comes off a little overly chatty and...um..."descriptive". Probably takes a little while to get used to having someone else next to you all game long with a microphone.
 
2013-08-19 02:46:04 PM  

Norfolking Chance: As an outsider to the Arsenal issue the problem is not the results on the days, its that Arsenal has been left behind. Man Utd, Man City and Chelsea have pushed on and have got better and better leaving Arsenal behind to make up the best of the rest. Arsenal are now not competing against Man U/C and Chelsea for the title they are competing against Spurs and Liverpool for the last Champions League place. If Man Utd managed to push on without a billionaire sugar daddy then why can't Arsenal?


Yeah. The money was there, the hunger wasn't, and a lot of options have already been snapped up. They're going to have to throw around downright foolish money to get the pieces they need now.
 
2013-08-19 02:46:10 PM  

ScouserDuck: Princip's Sandwich: It's quite amazing no one's tried to get Michu. Guy's always plugged into the game.

Arsenal has thought about possibly making an offer on him.


I read that today about Arsenal, but I don't think Swansea will sell. They brought in Bony to compliment Michu and take the workload off his shoulders, why go back to a single (consistent) striker when you can have two that fit your style?
 
2013-08-19 02:47:24 PM  

Gonz: I have a co-worker who's a huge Newcastle fan. I've really felt bad for her during the off-season. The club's answer to almost getting relegated has been... do nothing. At least Arsenal stood fast with a CL-level squad.

This is going to be a long year for the Toon Army, I think.


On paper at least Newcastle has an alright team. If they can stay relatively healthy unlike last year they shouldn't even flirt with relegation this time around.

Of course, I'm not sure if we even bother calling them Newcastle anymore. They're basically "French National Team 'B' squad" at this point.
 
2013-08-19 02:50:39 PM  

Killer Cars: desertgeek: And yes, Arlo White may be trying a bit too hard at times.

I'm sure other people have mentioned this a bunch of times, but White was literally a one-man booth for the Sounders telecasts, so I can definitely see where he comes off a little overly chatty and...um..."descriptive". Probably takes a little while to get used to having someone else next to you all game long with a microphone.


And when he did MLS for NBC, the analyst was between the benches (stealing from NBC's NHL coverage and in both cases, it's stupid). But he's good. He just needs time to get comfortable.
 
2013-08-19 02:58:26 PM  
Cabaye not in the squad today after the bud from arsenal. If we sell him and don't use the money for a striker or a winger it's going to be a long season. Realistically I wouldn't be too upset if he left because central mid is really the only position we have depth at the moment but that money has to go somewhere besides Ashley's pocket.
 
2013-08-19 02:59:10 PM  
Pellegrini took the captaincy away from Kompany and gave it to Navas. Ouch, that's got to bruise one's ego. Lead them to a league title two years ago, lose your job to a guy that just got there.
 
2013-08-19 03:01:38 PM  
Martin Tyler is calling this one on NBC. Awesome.
 
2013-08-19 03:02:58 PM  

mysticcat: It's the start of the EPL....two days ago.


which is why the thread has 600 comments already. this is just a thread bump for today's gamp.
 
2013-08-19 03:04:35 PM  

ADubs86: Pellegrini took the captaincy away from Kompany and gave it to Navas. Ouch, that's got to bruise one's ego. Lead them to a league title two years ago, lose your job to a guy that just got there.


No, wait, Navas is wearing a VC armband. Not the new captain. Weird decision that.

MARTIN TYLER!

That was almost 1-0 to City twice there. Newcastle's back line looking six and sevens as they say.
 
2013-08-19 03:04:39 PM  

desertgeek: Martin Tyler is calling this one on NBC. Awesome.


I hope this isn't a repeat from the Chelsea game. His commentating combined with the boring match after the opening goals put me to sleep.
 
2013-08-19 03:04:56 PM  
Martin Tyler commentating for NBC, awesome.  Dzeko almost gets my fantasy on the board after 4 minutes, but is denied by a great save from Krul.
 
2013-08-19 03:07:14 PM  
You knew that was coming. City have been buzzing since the start.
 
2013-08-19 03:07:25 PM  
Points for me as my vice captain in fantasy, david silva scores after 6 minutes.
 
2013-08-19 03:07:48 PM  
There it is.
1-0 City
A David Silva header, there's a collector's item.
Toon, how on earth do you give the smallest guy on the pitch a free header?
 
2013-08-19 03:07:48 PM  

Princip's Sandwich: desertgeek: Martin Tyler is calling this one on NBC. Awesome.

I hope this isn't a repeat from the Chelsea game. His commentating combined with the boring match after the opening goals put me to sleep.


That's purely Chelsea's fault. They went boring after getting that lead.

Opening the flood gates, David silva.
 
2013-08-19 03:08:13 PM  

ADubs86: Norfolking Chance: As an outsider to the Arsenal issue the problem is not the results on the days, its that Arsenal has been left behind. Man Utd, Man City and Chelsea have pushed on and have got better and better leaving Arsenal behind to make up the best of the rest. Arsenal are now not competing against Man U/C and Chelsea for the title they are competing against Spurs and Liverpool for the last Champions League place. If Man Utd managed to push on without a billionaire sugar daddy then why can't Arsenal?

United had the benefit of one of the greatest managers the footballing world has ever seen on their side, plus an international brand bigger than some Fortune 500 companies. They didn't need a billionaire sugar daddy. My post was more towards the people calling for Wenger's head after one match. They were the same one's calling for it after the 8-2, and he still got them into CL. I'm not saying the man's perfect, he isn't, but this loss isn't the end of the world, nor is his lack of movement so far in the window cause for panic. Concern, yes, but not panic.


Objectivly you are right Man Utd got very lucky with the on field ability of Fergerson and the off field skills of the likes of Gill. All of who took Utd from strength to strength but during the early 00's Arsenal were neck and neck and looked like they could build just as strong a club on and of he field. As it was Utd kept on building the team with big money signings and trophy after trophy while Arsenal just stood still. I think that loosing Dean from the boardroom was when the decline got going (plus the retirement of the Graham defense that was so strong).

Arsenal fans have been off and on calling for Wengers head for the last three or four seasons and its the same complaints time and again. Selling the best players, not buying any truely world class players and the defense being far too leaky.
 
2013-08-19 03:09:00 PM  

Cajnik: I have that living in Central Europe, but zero EPL without paying for Sky. 4-5 channels consistently with a match on. This weekend I caught the Ajax-Feyenoord derby and a smattering of Bundesliga. If this is really what you want, everything is on firstrow, all they way down to 2. Bundesliga and the Hungarian league.


In doing research for the soccer book I'm still trying to find a backer for, I've watched some downright strange leagues on YouTube, sometimes full matches. Thailand. Some game in a one-off offseason league for nations with summer leagues. I find it rather fun to see what the sport looks like in all these obscure little outposts. Real Madrid/FC Barcelona is fine and all, but the sixth time in a year, it gets a little irritating.

These are full matches following.

Here's Asante Kotoko vs. Accra Hearts of Oak, out of Ghana.
Here's Bunyodkor (Uzbekistan) vs. Buriram United (Thailand).
Here's Marodii Jeex va. Saaraar, a game out of Somaliland. And the second half.
Here's a World Cup qualifier between Suriname and the Cayman Islands. And the second half.

Besides, I think it'd raise the quality of the games themselves. Scouts can't get out to all these places, even experts have a ton of blind spots. So you're some unknown player in a backwater league where big-time scouts haven't been for years, maybe eastern Africa or something, and all of a sudden the FIFA Network decides they want to air your upcoming match. Now the whole damn world is going to see you for 90 minutes. They probably won't come back in the time you've got. You have one big chance to impress someone out there and convince them to fly out and take an extra look. You're going to leave it all on the pitch that day so you can stand out and make a career for yourself.
 
2013-08-19 03:15:06 PM  

Gosling: Besides, I think it'd raise the quality of the games themselves. Scouts can't get out to all these places, even experts have a ton of blind spots. So you're some unknown player in a backwater league where big-time scouts haven't been for years, maybe eastern Africa or something, and all of a sudden the FIFA Network decides they want to air your upcoming match. Now the whole damn world is going to see you for 90 minutes. They probably won't come back in the time you've got. You have one big chance to impress someone out there and convince them to fly out and take an extra look. You're going to leave it all on the pitch that day so you can stand out and make a career for yourself.


While i agree with you FIFA TV with random matches from around the world would be very good for the game it would need FIFA to not be a bunch of greedy, currupt lazy arseholes. If you were willing to do the hard work and had enough envolopes full of $100 bills or €500 notes then you could get it done.

/FIFA is more currupt than the IOC
//At least the IOC every so often gives the games to the best city
 
2013-08-19 03:20:38 PM  
Cisse's best touch so far was probably blasting a Man City fan in the face.
 
2013-08-19 03:22:25 PM  
Out of curiosity, where does Newcastle's "Toon" nickname come from?
 
2013-08-19 03:22:40 PM  
AGUERO!
Get these fantasy points!
 
2013-08-19 03:22:46 PM  
Perfect shot from Augero.
 
2013-08-19 03:22:48 PM  
Seasons over :(
 
2013-08-19 03:23:36 PM  

Princip's Sandwich: Out of curiosity, where does Newcastle's "Toon" nickname come from?


British accent for Town.
 
2013-08-19 03:24:57 PM  

desertgeek: More Arsenal shiat hitting the fan...

An Arsenal fan calls out Wegner and the board on video.

A former shareholder and current honorary VP of the club voices regret at selling her shares of the club to Stan Kroenke, the majority owner, calls for changes to the board.


Just heard this AM that they made a £10 million bid for Cabaye.

Cabaye of last season?  Yeah, he was poor.  Newcastle still think he's the Cabaye of two seasons ago...
 
2013-08-19 03:25:13 PM  
1. Martin Tyler!!!!
2. Aguerooooooo. Nice shot.
 
2013-08-19 03:25:39 PM  

ScouserDuck: Princip's Sandwich: Out of curiosity, where does Newcastle's "Toon" nickname come from?

British accent for Town.


Geordie accent rather.
 
2013-08-19 03:26:10 PM  

Norfolking Chance: As an outsider to the Arsenal issue the problem is not the results on the days, its that Arsenal has been left behind. Man Utd, Man City and Chelsea have pushed on and have got better and better leaving Arsenal behind to make up the best of the rest. Arsenal are now not competing against Man U/C and Chelsea for the title they are competing against Spurs and Liverpool for the last Champions League place. If Man Utd managed to push on without a billionaire sugar daddy then why can't Arsenal?


Arsenal can and should. Arsenal spent £390 million to build a much larger, newer stadium and spend several years trying (and succeeding) to compete on a shoestring budget. Arsenal didn't challenge for first, but the financial boon of achieving the Champions League every year was built into the calculations.

In fact, it was a pretty good plan. Uncover and develop some impressive youth talent, groom it, and spend some money wisely on good talent to stay competitive and an eye for the future when the debt burden wasn't so harsh. But while that was happening, Roman Abramovich bought Chelsea in 2003, Sheikh Mansour bought Manchester City in 2008, and they bid top dollar to capture the best players on the market. Just to those two teams Arsenal lost Ashley Cole, Kolo Toure, Gael Clichy, Adebayor and Samir Nasri. A good, solid nucleus gone, and that doesn't include team destabilization and some of the other players who's decisions were influenced by that.

That happens, but Arsenal didn't act to prevent it, and it always felt like as we lost our A players, they were replaced by B players. The fans understood that Arsenal was in a financial bind, though, and were patient. Then this summer, our financials revealed that for the first time, we were coming into the transfer season with nobody leaving and £70 million to spend. Gazidis made this big proclamation that for the first time in many years, Arsenal actually had a comfortable transfer kitty. Like all the other fans, I got my hopes up. Arsenal were linked with player after player after player in the media, and nothing happened. Nothing.

So the answer is that Arsenal can be competitive, but with a full team of quality players. They don't have that at the moment, and nobody really understands why.
 
2013-08-19 03:26:10 PM  

Princip's Sandwich: Out of curiosity, where does Newcastle's "Toon" nickname come from?


Geordie pronunciation of "town".
 
2013-08-19 03:26:44 PM  
Poor Tim Krul.
 
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