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(LA Times)   GM recalls 300,000 Chevy Cruzes. In other news, GM has sold 300,000 Chevy Cruzes   (latimes.com) divider line 27
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2013-08-16 09:23:33 PM
I have a 2012 Cruze. Never had any problems with it yet. Gets great gas mileage and handles really well.
 
2013-08-16 10:15:05 PM
Well, they would also be recalling the ones sitting on dealership lots.
 
2013-08-17 12:13:15 AM
I will never understand Chevy people... if you're going to buy a car that boring (with little exception), why the hell would you get a GM car?
 
2013-08-17 01:03:59 AM

ThatGuyGreg: I will never understand Chevy people... if you're going to buy a car that boring (with little exception), why the hell would you get a GM car?


GM has some nice products.  The 2012 and 2013 model years of the old Impala were the deal of the decade on the used market - you could get a proven design, rock solid reliable, 300+ hp fullsize sedan hard loaded with leather, sunroof, premium audio, bluetooth, etc, for under $20K lightly used and still under warranty (well, you still can).  That beats overpriced used Hondas and Toyotas every day of the week.

New is a tougher sell, though the Silverado is nice enough, not as nice as the F-150 or Ram, but better than the Tundra or Titan.  If you don't care about interior material quality that much the Corvette is still a bargain for performance compared to any other 2 seater sports car.

I also give GM credit for taking the CTS-V Wagon into production.
 
2013-08-17 01:11:39 AM
I've never had any problems with the Cruzes I've had when renting... maybe I've been lucky.
 
2013-08-17 01:15:53 AM

TuteTibiImperes: ThatGuyGreg: I will never understand Chevy people... if you're going to buy a car that boring (with little exception), why the hell would you get a GM car?

GM has some nice products.  The 2012 and 2013 model years of the old Impala were the deal of the decade on the used market - you could get a proven design, rock solid reliable, 300+ hp fullsize sedan hard loaded with leather, sunroof, premium audio, bluetooth, etc, for under $20K lightly used and still under warranty (well, you still can).  That beats overpriced used Hondas and Toyotas every day of the week.

New is a tougher sell, though the Silverado is nice enough, not as nice as the F-150 or Ram, but better than the Tundra or Titan.  If you don't care about interior material quality that much the Corvette is still a bargain for performance compared to any other 2 seater sports car.

I also give GM credit for taking the CTS-V Wagon into production.


The Silverado is not better than the Titan.  It's arguably on par with the Tundra, but just barely.  A 2012 Titan will outlast any GM equivalent truck on rust issues alone.  GM still hasn't figured out rust.
 
2013-08-17 01:21:33 AM

Lsherm: TuteTibiImperes: ThatGuyGreg: I will never understand Chevy people... if you're going to buy a car that boring (with little exception), why the hell would you get a GM car?

GM has some nice products.  The 2012 and 2013 model years of the old Impala were the deal of the decade on the used market - you could get a proven design, rock solid reliable, 300+ hp fullsize sedan hard loaded with leather, sunroof, premium audio, bluetooth, etc, for under $20K lightly used and still under warranty (well, you still can).  That beats overpriced used Hondas and Toyotas every day of the week.

New is a tougher sell, though the Silverado is nice enough, not as nice as the F-150 or Ram, but better than the Tundra or Titan.  If you don't care about interior material quality that much the Corvette is still a bargain for performance compared to any other 2 seater sports car.

I also give GM credit for taking the CTS-V Wagon into production.

The Silverado is not better than the Titan.  It's arguably on par with the Tundra, but just barely.  A 2012 Titan will outlast any GM equivalent truck on rust issues alone.  GM still hasn't figured out rust.


I'm lucky enough to live somewhere where rust doesn't come into play, so I can't comment there.  The Titan is the oldest design in the industry though - it was competitive when it launched, but it hasn't been substantially updated in ten years.

I've never owned one though, after so long without a redesign I'd assume Nissan has learned how to build them pretty rock solid reliable.  I've driven them, and they're crude and pretty spartan inside compared to the competition, but I also know Nissan dealers have absolutely huge incentives to move them, so if you just want a basic truck and don't care about the latest gadgets or comfort features, I can see the appeal.
 
2013-08-17 01:35:15 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if 200,000 of them are fleet vehicles. I had one as an Avis rental with 300 miles on the odometer. It was unremarkable, I much preferred the Altima I had next time I rented.
 
2013-08-17 01:50:35 AM
I have not had a decent American made ride since my blown 1985 Pontiac Parisienne.  Stripped dry it was 5100 pounds and 510 horsepower and about a gajillion pound feet of torque.  9 MPG.
 
2013-08-17 02:40:17 AM
I actually own a 2011 Cruze. I got it because I liked the style and the mileage.

That said, I guess I'll have to ask about this next time I get an oil change (yes, I'm one of those lazy people that can't change their own oil).
 
2013-08-17 02:43:37 AM
The NEWS is, GM Made 300,000 Cruzes.
 
2013-08-17 03:02:11 AM

Marcus Aurelius: I have not had a decent American made ride since my blown 1985 Pontiac Parisienne.  Stripped dry it was 5100 pounds and 510 horsepower and about a gajillion pound feet of torque.  9 MPG.


and it could pass anything but the gas station.
 
2013-08-17 03:15:59 AM

Linkster: The NEWS is, GM Made 300,000 Cruzes.


The Cruze has been selling very well since introduction.  The Corolla is outclassed by everything else in the segment and only sells on past glory, the Sentra is outdated and Nissan took a step back with the Versa, Honda fumbled when they introduced the new Civic, though they did update it again quickly, and Ford has priced the new Focus above the rest of the segment, though it's also doing well.  Dodge introduced the Dart with poor powertrain options and trim level mixes compared to the rest of the class, but apparently they're working to fix that.  Hyundai seems to have done well with the Elantra, though they've also benefited from being the darling of the industry in terms of PR lately, that's a position that doesn't tend to last for long.  VW has been doing well compared to their past performance with the Jetta, but still isn't fighting for first place.

The compact segment has heated up over the last several years.  Remember that new vehicles take several years to develop and reach market, so what we're seeing now are the results of the automarkers' panic at the surging gas prices in '08.

Last month the sales champs were (in this order): Civic, Cruze, Corolla, Elantra, Focus, Jetta, and Sentra.
 
2013-08-17 06:55:09 AM
I have a Cruze Eco, its one of the best cars I've  owned. I'm getting an average of 41mpg and it has a proper 6 speed manual transmission.  Didn't realize people hated them?
 
2013-08-17 06:56:37 AM
The new 2014 Silverado/Sierra is a nice truck. I'd put it above Ford and Ram easily enough. The engine is a bit too quiet though. I really do prefer the rumble of the Ram. The F150 is nice, but 2014 is the last of it's production run for the generation and it is showing its age. The Dodge rides smoothly, but the rear end sags quite a bit with a heavy load in the bed or with a trailer.
 
2013-08-17 07:02:59 AM
All Chevy threads fail without the '67 Impala. Why yes, my girlfriend did get get me hooked on that show. Wanna fight about it?

1.bp.blogspot.com
Fun trivia: The car was specifically chosen because the whale-ass back end was sufficient to store bodies and arsenal.
 
2013-08-17 07:17:33 AM

Kimpak: I have a Cruze Eco, its one of the best cars I've  owned. I'm getting an average of 41mpg and it has a proper 6 speed manual transmission.  Didn't realize people hated them?


This is where I give GM (and a dwindling number of makers) two thumbs up. You want a Sentra or Versa with manual? Only in the stripper models. The Altima? CVT only. Americans just don't like to row their own anymore.

My latest addition is a '13 Accord with a 6 speed manual. Nice to have a large-ish car with a 3rd pedal these days.

/Test drove a Cruze a few weeks back. Nice car but too small for us. And it wasn't that much cheaper than the Accord.
 
2013-08-17 08:31:53 AM
Chevy Cruz? No thanks, NOT CrashTestDummy approved. I'll stick with the GeezerMobile.

/LeSabre, a sherman tank for bluehairs.
 
2013-08-17 08:52:19 AM
bookmarked so I can come back and comment on the Cruze in the future when I get one off craigslist for $800 bucks like all the cars I buy
 
2013-08-17 09:38:04 AM
When is Texas going to recall just one Cruze
 
2013-08-17 09:43:47 AM

Gig103: I had one as an Avis rental with 300 miles on the odometer. It was unremarkable, I much preferred the Altima I had next time I rented.


i just rented a 2013 hyundai elantra that smelled of piss and stripper perfume and had badly stained seats. thanks, Enterprise!

oh, and the auto tranny was dangerously laggy.

/csb
 
2013-08-17 11:08:24 AM

Slayinit: Kimpak: I have a Cruze Eco, its one of the best cars I've  owned. I'm getting an average of 41mpg and it has a proper 6 speed manual transmission.  Didn't realize people hated them?

This is where I give GM (and a dwindling number of makers) two thumbs up. You want a Sentra or Versa with manual? Only in the stripper models. The Altima? CVT only. Americans just don't like to row their own anymore.

My latest addition is a '13 Accord with a 6 speed manual. Nice to have a large-ish car with a 3rd pedal these days.

/Test drove a Cruze a few weeks back. Nice car but too small for us. And it wasn't that much cheaper than the Accord.


Ford has recently done the same with the Fiesta and Focus - you can get the six-speed manual on all trim levels, including the top-of-the-line Titanium.  A refreshing change from stripper-model-only syndrome that was the norm for decades.
 
2013-08-17 12:14:43 PM

Gig103: I wouldn't be surprised if 200,000 of them are fleet vehicles. I had one as an Avis rental with 300 miles on the odometer. It was unremarkable, I much preferred the Altima I had next time I rented.


40% of Cruze sales are to fleets, the Cruze is the second best selling model in GM's lineup at just over 25,000 units a month.

for some perspective, that's more sales than the entire Mazda or BMW brands take in per month
 
2013-08-17 01:07:50 PM

MadManMoon: Slayinit: Kimpak: I have a Cruze Eco, its one of the best cars I've  owned. I'm getting an average of 41mpg and it has a proper 6 speed manual transmission.  Didn't realize people hated them?

This is where I give GM (and a dwindling number of makers) two thumbs up. You want a Sentra or Versa with manual? Only in the stripper models. The Altima? CVT only. Americans just don't like to row their own anymore.

My latest addition is a '13 Accord with a 6 speed manual. Nice to have a large-ish car with a 3rd pedal these days.

/Test drove a Cruze a few weeks back. Nice car but too small for us. And it wasn't that much cheaper than the Accord.

Ford has recently done the same with the Fiesta and Focus - you can get the six-speed manual on all trim levels, including the top-of-the-line Titanium.  A refreshing change from stripper-model-only syndrome that was the norm for decades.


I don't understand a 6-speed in the Fiesta. I have a 2012 5-speed, the car doesn't have enough juice to justify breaking things up and adding a 6th.

One of the only reasons I bought that car was because I could drive a manual off the lot the same day. No Honda guy, I don't want your piece of shiat Fit with that little switch on the automatic shifter. It isn't close to the same.
 
2013-08-17 04:28:01 PM
Speaking of car dealers, I just got a little scratch-off doodad in the mail from a local dealer. Scratched off and it said I'd won 1500. I thought "It's a car salesman, there's a catch somewhere, but I'm gonna check it out anyway".

So I go down there and it turns out the 1500 is the prize code for.... ...a rare commemorative $2 bill. So, I'm two dollars (minus the penny or so to drive down there, my Scion doesn't burn much gas) richer.

Gonna take it to Taco Bell.
 
2013-08-17 04:49:46 PM

Lunchlady: MadManMoon: Slayinit: Kimpak: I have a Cruze Eco, its one of the best cars I've  owned. I'm getting an average of 41mpg and it has a proper 6 speed manual transmission.  Didn't realize people hated them?

This is where I give GM (and a dwindling number of makers) two thumbs up. You want a Sentra or Versa with manual? Only in the stripper models. The Altima? CVT only. Americans just don't like to row their own anymore.

My latest addition is a '13 Accord with a 6 speed manual. Nice to have a large-ish car with a 3rd pedal these days.

/Test drove a Cruze a few weeks back. Nice car but too small for us. And it wasn't that much cheaper than the Accord.

Ford has recently done the same with the Fiesta and Focus - you can get the six-speed manual on all trim levels, including the top-of-the-line Titanium.  A refreshing change from stripper-model-only syndrome that was the norm for decades.

I don't understand a 6-speed in the Fiesta. I have a 2012 5-speed, the car doesn't have enough juice to justify breaking things up and adding a 6th.

One of the only reasons I bought that car was because I could drive a manual off the lot the same day. No Honda guy, I don't want your piece of shiat Fit with that little switch on the automatic shifter. It isn't close to the same.


The manual 6-speed only really makes sense if the engine puts out enough torque so that you can cruise in sixth on the freeway and keep your RPMs low.  IIRC, the Focus only has it on the 220hp ST version; all the rest are 5-speeds.

/offer not valid for diesel engines
 
2013-08-18 10:03:50 AM
I have a 2012 Cruze 2LT with the 1.4L Turbo, 4 wheel disks, with the RS package. It looks like a car, it picks up pretty damn well on the highway for for an I4.  I haven't had a problem with it other than a random crack in the windshield (and the damn neighbor kids denting it).

I'd never buy outside of the big three, outside of manufacturing, too much money goes to the suppliers, engineering, design, testing that's kept mostly in the US. I'm just glad they've been putting out some decent products since the recession.
 
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