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(USA Today)   It isn't really NFL season until Warden Goodell hands out fines for the first preseason week: 15 NFL players' pocketbooks are a collective $159,625 lighter, for various illegal hits including one season-ending injury   (usatoday.com) divider line 36
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2013-08-16 09:50:43 PM
Halftime of the Pats/Bucs broadcast somebody brings up Amendola and another guy talking about working out with Brady. Then the main anchor says, "Both those guys are out of the game, they might be tweeting that" and Randy Moss, with laser accuracy says, "If they're tweetin' right now they'll see that fine!"

I hope they keep him on. He's gonna be gold.
 
2013-08-16 10:25:46 PM
if a player doesn't make the team do they still have to pay the fine?
 
2013-08-16 10:36:52 PM
Must be a bitter taints fan writing the headlines.
 
2013-08-16 10:59:42 PM
Geez! It's not like they killed anybody.
 
2013-08-16 11:05:22 PM

Waldo Pepper: if a player doesn't make the team do they still have to pay the fine?


That's a good question.

IF a player doesn't make the team, and doesn't make another....what's the NFL gonna do, garnish his car wash wages?

I'd think that they could only go after his NFL paychecks.

But then again, this IS Darth Goodell and his mastery of the Dark Side.
 
2013-08-16 11:21:10 PM
Bernard Pollard, aka Patriot-Hunter, was fined 10k.  Shocking.  I wonder who's careers he'll end this year.
 
2013-08-16 11:29:14 PM
I hate how he is using his commissioner power to do something he is completely allowed to do. And look at him eat those crackers. Makes me sick.
 
2013-08-16 11:31:18 PM
I am sure the fine on Travis Lewis made John Griffin feel much better
 
2013-08-16 11:34:01 PM

Go Fornicate Without a Partner: Bernard Pollard, aka Patriot-Hunter, was fined 10k.  Shocking.  I wonder who's careers he'll end this year.


Hopefully his own.
 
2013-08-16 11:35:00 PM

"Detroit Lions linebacker Travis Lewis also was fined $15,750 for a horse collar tackle that left New York Jets running back John Griffin with a broken leg, ending his season."


What the hell? He did a horse collar that ended someone's season, and he only gets a fine? Guy needs to be suspended for a couple of games so he loses that salary. Too bad that isn't in the CBA. Caused a season-ending injury with an illegal procedure. That's pretty crappy.

 
2013-08-16 11:43:03 PM
Doesn't it suck that he's enforcing the rules agreed upon by the owners in the offseason, late hits, and horse-collar tackles? It's a biatch that he's done more to protect the players than the players, the people actually responsible for all the chippy season/career-ending and lifelong debilitating hits, have ever done?

Goodell is the best friend the players have ever had. He is protecting them from themselves.
 
2013-08-16 11:44:36 PM
Where are all the fines on the offensive players?  Oh that's right, they don't play the same game.
 
2013-08-17 12:14:37 AM

jaylectricity: Go Fornicate Without a Partner: Bernard Pollard, aka Patriot-Hunter, was fined 10k.  Shocking.  I wonder who's careers he'll end this year.

Hopefully his own.


They play San Diego and the Jets this year so hopefully Rivers or Sanchez.  They alao play the Broncos so hopefully his kill lust is sated by then.
 
2013-08-17 12:18:06 AM

Dufferman: Where are all the fines on the offensive players?  Oh that's right, they don't play the same game.


That included San Diego Chargers guard Johnnie Troutman, who was fined for an illegal peelback block - one of the rules the NFL expanded in the offseason as part of its player health and safety initiative .

One out of 15 ain't bad.  Well it is pretty frickin unbalanced but offensive guys don't have as many cheap shot opportunities the D gets.
 
2013-08-17 12:29:49 AM
Save your goodell hate for when he does something wrong/stupid. These are not.
 
2013-08-17 12:51:37 AM
Yeah, heaven forbid be fine players who hit other players late or commit cheap shots.

On one hand, former players are suing the NFL for not doing enough to protect them from injuries
On the other, current players are biatching that he comes down too hard on them.
 
2013-08-17 01:16:23 AM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Doesn't it suck that he's enforcing the rules agreed upon by the owners in the offseason, late hits, and horse-collar tackles? It's a biatch that he's done more to protect the players than the players, the people actually responsible for all the chippy season/career-ending and lifelong debilitating hits, have ever done?

Goodell is the best friend the players have ever had. He is protecting them from themselves.


I hate goodell, but most of those fines were very deserving and in some cases, were WAY to low. Id love to talk shiat but i didn't see anything outlandish.
 
2013-08-17 01:18:46 AM
I feel like illegal hits that cause injuries should be punished more severely.  Something like you have to pay the salary of the guy you hurt for every game he misses.  If the injured player's salary is more than yours, then your team pays the difference.  Alternatively (maybe even additionally), you could suspend the player making the illegal hit for as many games as the injured player is out.
 
2013-08-17 01:20:19 AM

Waldo Pepper: if a player doesn't make the team do they still have to pay the fine?


No, there was another article that mentioned they only had to pay the fine if they were on a final 53 man roster.
 
2013-08-17 01:42:24 AM
If you cause an injury to someone with an illegal hit, that player should simply be suspended until the injured player comes back.  Pretty simple resolution if you ask me.
 
2013-08-17 03:51:06 AM

smartasspt: If you cause an injury to someone with an illegal hit, that player should simply be suspended until the injured player comes back.  Pretty simple resolution if you ask me.


Yep, if the injured player can't play, the guy who committed a cheap-shot that caused the injury shouldn't be playing, either. Commit a career-ending injury, you can never play for the NFL again. If the injured player dies as a result of said injury, the offending player not only is drummed out of the NFL, they are banned from the Hall of Fame.
 
2013-08-17 06:24:43 AM

RogermcAllen: I feel like illegal hits that cause injuries should be punished more severely.  Something like you have to pay the salary of the guy you hurt for every game he misses.  If the injured player's salary is more than yours, then your team pays the difference.  Alternatively (maybe even additionally), you could suspend the player making the illegal hit for as many games as the injured player is out.


And then watch Joe Flacco never ever get rushed again.
 
2013-08-17 07:08:14 AM

Go Fornicate Without a Partner: Bernard Pollard, aka Patriot-Hunter, was fined 10k.  Shocking.  I wonder who's careers he'll end this year.


You say "Patriot-Hunter" like it's a bad thing.
 
2013-08-17 07:34:41 AM
Either there's some epic trolling going on in here, or there's some weapons grade stupid watching the NFL and making comments.
 
2013-08-17 07:57:30 AM
Goodell is a pretty coonty commish, but he's still somehow not as bad as Stern, Selig, and Bettman.

/not sure about Selig since I don't really care that much about baseball, but from what I've heard he's a pretty big coont.
 
2013-08-17 08:33:15 AM

OhioUGrad: Waldo Pepper: if a player doesn't make the team do they still have to pay the fine?

No, there was another article that mentioned they only had to pay the fine if they were on a final 53 man roster.


Thank you.
 
2013-08-17 08:36:45 AM

smartasspt: If you cause an injury to someone with an illegal hit, that player should simply be suspended until the injured player comes back.  Pretty simple resolution if you ask me.


Not a simple solution.  You star linebacker knocks out a 3rd string RB on your division rivals team.  That team decides the RB is out for the season in order to also bench your star linebacker.
 
2013-08-17 09:06:48 AM

xaks: Either there's some epic trolling going on in here, or there's some weapons grade stupid watching the NFL and making comments.


youmustbenewhere.jpg

And TFA reminded everyone that peel-back blocks are illegal, but they also banned cut blocks from behind (I guess it's now the Cushing Rule).  I assume cuts coming from the front are still legal.
 
2013-08-17 09:52:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdV7TGyJ7jo

Glad Goodell apparently didn't add that one to the list.
 
2013-08-17 11:19:22 AM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Doesn't it suck that he's enforcing the rules agreed upon by the owners in the offseason, late hits, and horse-collar tackles? It's a biatch that he's done more to protect the players than the players, the people actually responsible for all the chippy season/career-ending and lifelong debilitating hits, have ever done?

Goodell is the best friend the players owners have ever had. He is protecting them from themselves the owners from lawsuits.


/fixed
 
2013-08-17 11:25:49 AM
Is calling him  Warden a dig on Goodell, the players, or both?
 
2013-08-17 12:10:33 PM

o5iiawah: Yeah, heaven forbid be fine players who hit other players late or commit cheap shots.

On one hand, former players are suing the NFL for not doing enough to protect them from injuries
On the other, current players are biatching that he comes down too hard on them.


The NFL can't win.  I heard comment (cannot remember who said it) not too long ago, stating football will be extinct in 30 years.  I laughed it off at first, but now I really think that could be a reality.
 
2013-08-17 01:34:12 PM

MyEnamine: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Doesn't it suck that he's enforcing the rules agreed upon by the owners in the offseason, late hits, and horse-collar tackles? It's a biatch that he's done more to protect the players than the players, the people actually responsible for all the chippy season/career-ending and lifelong debilitating hits, have ever done?

Goodell is the best friend the players owners have ever had. He is protecting them from themselves the owners from lawsuits.

/fixed


No, you didn't fix it. The owners are not going to lose the lawsuits, and the players are still going to have to deal with the aftermath of their careers.

The owners don't lay the hits on each other, take cheap shots, or otherwise assault the players, the players do that to themselves. If fines and suspensions will eventually stop the players from doing that since they don't have any self-control (which is a dubious proposition but nevertheless is all that the NFL can do), Goodell will have saved hundreds of men from themselves. You know, it's such a simple thing: don't lead with your helmet, tackle someone by grabbing their shoulder pads around the neck, or take cheap shots. Too bad it takes fines and suspensions to minimize that.
 
2013-08-17 02:23:28 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: MyEnamine: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Doesn't it suck that he's enforcing the rules agreed upon by the owners in the offseason, late hits, and horse-collar tackles? It's a biatch that he's done more to protect the players than the players, the people actually responsible for all the chippy season/career-ending and lifelong debilitating hits, have ever done?

Goodell is the best friend the players owners have ever had. He is protecting them from themselves the owners from lawsuits.

/fixed

No, you didn't fix it. The owners are not going to lose the lawsuits, and the players are still going to have to deal with the aftermath of their careers.

The owners don't lay the hits on each other, take cheap shots, or otherwise assault the players, the players do that to themselves. If fines and suspensions will eventually stop the players from doing that since they don't have any self-control (which is a dubious proposition but nevertheless is all that the NFL can do), Goodell will have saved hundreds of men from themselves. You know, it's such a simple thing: don't lead with your helmet, tackle someone by grabbing their shoulder pads around the neck, or take cheap shots. Too bad it takes fines and suspensions to minimize that.


A huge piece of the blame falls on the Networks and the NFL, that is what they turned the game into and promoted in order to turn their sport into the money maker it has become. This is no different than baseball owners overlooking the steroids during the home run record races as it brought the fans back to the game.

The Win at all cost mentality is not good for sports or business but it is American
 
2013-08-17 03:33:10 PM
Seems pretty simple reading these remarks. If the player fined is on YOUR team and causes a season ending injury and gets fined it's OMG Goodell is a Nazi / Muslim sympathizer / puppy killer BUT if another player did the same to your team you would be screaming for Goodell to have their head on a plate.

Heads up pencil dicks you can't have it both ways.....

I'm still for no helmets, spikes on the shoulder pads and gloves and allowing the winners to eat the carcasses of the losers at the 50 yd line at the end of the game

worked for the Romans for hundreds of years

and did I mention mandatory steroids for all players?
 
2013-08-18 07:11:32 AM

MmmmBacon: smartasspt: If you cause an injury to someone with an illegal hit, that player should simply be suspended until the injured player comes back.  Pretty simple resolution if you ask me.

Yep, if the injured player can't play, the guy who committed a cheap-shot that caused the injury shouldn't be playing, either. Commit a career-ending injury, you can never play for the NFL again. If the injured player dies as a result of said injury, the offending player not only is drummed out of the NFL, they are banned from the Hall of Fame.


You know just as well as I do that system would be exploited by division rivals. Star corner with an illegal hit on a #5 receiver... sit reveiver for rest of the year, making corner sit for the rest of the year... profit
 
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