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(Washington Post)   Police chief to clueless Washington, DC dumbasses: "You wouldn't go around flaunting $400 in cash in your hand, and that's what you're doing with your phone"   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 135
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2013-08-16 12:47:59 PM

pdee: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: You wouldn't go out at night dressed in sexually flattering clothing, would you ladies?

FTFA:"You wouldn't go around flaunting $400 in cash in your hand, and that's what you're doing with your phone," the chief said.

I was going to ask how is this different than blaming women for sexual assaults if they dress slutty?

Maybe DC cops should set up a sting.  Make a taser look like a iPhone.  Let a thief snatch it then ZAP.


I would watch the shiat out of a "Bait Phone" show.
 
2013-08-16 12:48:11 PM

The Googles Do Nothing: Do these farkers on here whining about how they shouldn't have to worry about holding their phone in their hand whilst wearing earplugs on a crowded train with people of a lower socio-economic background in proximity also lock their doors at night or when they leave?  Because they shouldn't then.

I can't believe the lack of common sense in the Me-Generation.


So much farking this.
 
2013-08-16 12:48:56 PM

Magorn: bongmiester: he's right

She, and no she's not.  They said that during the height of the Roman empire a woman could walk alone on the imperial roads  from Gaul to Rome with a sackful of gold coins in perfect safety.

It 2013 and I expect the same thing to be true of the capital city of the greatest nation on earth.   Especially one so festoon with cameras that they are even installing them on STOP SIGNS now.  Telling people that they should be afraid to have their phone in their hands while travelling essentially defeats the entire purpose of having a mobile phone, now doesn't it?


Sorry, the height of the US came and went in the 1940s. We're now locked into the death spiral stage, like Rome was when Roman citizens feared and hated their neighbors more than the Vandals and Visigoths, because people with conflicting opinions were known to be the greatest danger, as well as being much easier to stab and/or poison to death, while the Vandals had so little chance of ever being a threat that the Romans actually took pity on the poor dear savages.

/open the gates for them, their savagery is more pure and noble and honest than our corrupt civilization
//wait, why is Rome burning?
///not our fault, we helped them destroy our civilization for the greater good! THE GREATER GOOD!
 
2013-08-16 12:55:12 PM

Tatterdemalian: Magorn: bongmiester: he's right

She, and no she's not.  They said that during the height of the Roman empire a woman could walk alone on the imperial roads  from Gaul to Rome with a sackful of gold coins in perfect safety.

It 2013 and I expect the same thing to be true of the capital city of the greatest nation on earth.   Especially one so festoon with cameras that they are even installing them on STOP SIGNS now.  Telling people that they should be afraid to have their phone in their hands while travelling essentially defeats the entire purpose of having a mobile phone, now doesn't it?

Sorry, the height of the US came and went in the 1940s. We're now locked into the death spiral stage, like Rome was when Roman citizens feared and hated their neighbors more than the Vandals and Visigoths, because people with conflicting opinions were known to be the greatest danger, as well as being much easier to stab and/or poison to death, while the Vandals had so little chance of ever being a threat that the Romans actually took pity on the poor dear savages.

/open the gates for them, their savagery is more pure and noble and honest than our corrupt civilization
//wait, why is Rome burning?
///not our fault, we helped them destroy our civilization for the greater good! THE GREATER GOOD!


Meh, it's not so bad. Empires don't really get sacked anymore, so we'll probably just slowly deflate like the British Empire, and since our expansion stopped at the west coast we don't really have far-flung colonies that can rebel.
 
2013-08-16 12:59:30 PM
jst3p
Enemabag Jones: jst3p
I would. Why wouldn't you?
I am busy...reread why I said, or find another mark.
Sorry, though it was sarcasm. Why do you have a problem with the bait cars though?


Would happily explain but don't have time, have an appt. Until next time.
 
2013-08-16 01:03:28 PM

Beeblebrox: pdee: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: You wouldn't go out at night dressed in sexually flattering clothing, would you ladies?

FTFA:"You wouldn't go around flaunting $400 in cash in your hand, and that's what you're doing with your phone," the chief said.

I was going to ask how is this different than blaming women for sexual assaults if they dress slutty?

Maybe DC cops should set up a sting.  Make a taser look like a iPhone.  Let a thief snatch it then ZAP.

I would watch the shiat out of a "Bait Phone" show.


Came here to say this.  I LOVE the Bait Car show.  But there needs to be video of some kind, because the recipe for a successful baiting system is guaranteed arrest + public humiliation.
 
2013-08-16 01:06:36 PM
Maybe try cleaning up your shiathole of a city?

Even in the "touristy" areas of DC there's large congregations of people loitering around on the street and on corners.
 
2013-08-16 01:10:29 PM

Tatterdemalian: , the height of the US came and went in the 1940s.


Not sure if your're serious or just racist enough to think the American Apartheid area was "the height of the US".
 
2013-08-16 01:10:45 PM

Beeblebrox: DROxINxTHExWIND: bunner: evaned: "don't flaunt your expensive things",

So, only use your mobile phone in the privacy of your own home?


I would, if I could get reception.


/Mutherfark YOU Sprint.

This was me with Verizon two years ago. Then, boom, after being gone for a weekend, got home and had full bars.  As much as Verizon sucks (and they do), they did okay this one time.  Hopefully you'll get your coverage upgraded.


I finally got annoyed at Sprint enough earlier this year to make the switch to Verizon.  Got a nice new flip phone with the same number after porting it over.  And so far, much better service at a good price.  Made the switch after the contract expired, and I paid the final Sprint  invoice, in full. But then they started billing me for 80 cents.  (That's $0.80 US, or about $0.81 Canadian.)

I ignored the emails at first, but the wankers kept sending them so I finally contacted them. The 2nd level supervisor I eventually reached revealed (in a chat session) that the charge was for 69 cents, and 11 cents in tax. And agreed that the charge had been made after I was gone as a customer.  But then asked me for a credit card number to which they could charge the 80 cents. WTF?

I declined, then ask how much is Sprint willing to spend on an invalid charge, on an expired account?  I waited with bated breath until the call was escalated further, and the eventual reply was "Ok,  Never mind.  Sorry."
 
2013-08-16 01:12:20 PM

The Googles Do Nothing: Do these farkers on here whining about how they shouldn't have to worry about holding their phone in their hand whilst wearing earplugs on a crowded train with people of a lower socio-economic background in proximity also lock their doors at night or when they leave? Because they shouldn't then.


False equivalency.
 
2013-08-16 01:49:52 PM

bunner: They should have a function that sets them on fire remotely.  I mean, it's not like the phones are the cash cow, the airtime, apps and crap that it does is the cash cow.  G4 phones should be 10.99 and come with a keychain trigger for the "Steal this, f*ckwad" pyro app.


A metal case with a tazer function would be fairly simple... Just drain the battery into the tazer when you hit the button.
 
2013-08-16 01:53:52 PM

mike_d85: bunner: They should have a function that sets them on fire remotely.  I mean, it's not like the phones are the cash cow, the airtime, apps and crap that it does is the cash cow.  G4 phones should be 10.99 and come with a keychain trigger for the "Steal this, f*ckwad" pyro app.

A metal case with a tazer function would be fairly simple... Just drain the battery into the tazer when you hit the button.


Hey, filthy rich defense contractors who make thermite have to eat, too.   :  )
 
2013-08-16 01:57:14 PM

Inchoate: The Googles Do Nothing: Do these farkers on here whining about how they shouldn't have to worry about holding their phone in their hand whilst wearing earplugs on a crowded train with people of a lower socio-economic background in proximity also lock their doors at night or when they leave? Because they shouldn't then.

False equivalency.


So, how can we prevent a crime before it happens?
 
2013-08-16 02:00:25 PM

The Googles Do Nothing: So, how can we prevent a crime before it happens?


There is only one way to prevent crime.  One.  Make people at large NOT WANT TO DO THAT SH*T.  "Hey, crime creates poverty.  Crime hurts people.  Crime devalues your life."  You don't actually hear much of that littered amongst the daily scoreboard of who f*cked who out of what, how much they got away with and what their attorney costs an hour.
 
2013-08-16 02:00:34 PM

Magorn: bongmiester: he's right

She, and no she's not.  They said that during the height of the Roman empire a woman could walk alone on the imperial roads  from Gaul to Rome with a sackful of gold coins in perfect safety.

It 2013 and I expect the same thing to be true of the capital city of the greatest nation on earth.   Especially one so festoon with cameras that they are even installing them on STOP SIGNS now.  Telling people that they should be afraid to have their phone in their hands while travelling essentially defeats the entire purpose of having a mobile phone, now doesn't it?


That's interesting.  I wonder what the average Roman would think of traffic cameras and the like?
 
2013-08-16 02:06:01 PM
And if social philanthropy doesn't work, how about we teach kids that going out and risking your freedom, physical well being and quite possibly your rectal virginity, every day, to get something you could earn washing dishes for 20 hours, and bonus, washing dishes provides steady, risk free income for food and shelter, might not be the best business plan?
 
2013-08-16 02:08:55 PM
Our culture teaches that there is always a shortcut and a getover and if you can get away with it, you succeed.  Always a trick.  Always a workaround.  Be a SUCCESSFUL criminal, then cover your tracks.  So far, this has given us drug lords, street thugs with the IQ of a pork sandwich, politicians and corporate slash and burn artists and stockbrokers.  It's not a matter of kettle  is blacker, it's a matter of working off bad ideas which, oddly, seem to bring bad results.
 
2013-08-16 02:24:51 PM

69gnarkill69: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: DROxINxTHExWIND: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: DROxINxTHExWIND: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: You wouldn't go out at night dressed in sexually flattering clothing, would you ladies?


I take it you've never been to a nightclub.

Not an "hip hop" night


That's a shame. Your mother can really twerk. You should show up one night to support her.


/Low hanging fruit

How's your dad, by the way? Oh, that's right....

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This.
 
2013-08-16 02:38:44 PM

The Googles Do Nothing: Inchoate: The Googles Do Nothing: Do these farkers on here whining about how they shouldn't have to worry about holding their phone in their hand whilst wearing earplugs on a crowded train with people of a lower socio-economic background in proximity also lock their doors at night or when they leave? Because they shouldn't then.

False equivalency.

So, how can we prevent a crime before it happens?


Most of us would be happy if Metro's cops caught the occasional phone jacker and put that on the news a few times a year.  "Pavlik could not say how often his officers have been able to catch thieves".

There are at least a half dozen cameras in every station, sprinters aren't all that common, most of the stations are underground (which means there are at best 3-4 exits and for most 1-2) or you can alert the next station down the line if they get on a train.  This should be like shooting fish in a barrel in terms of % caught.  Stings would also be quite easy to set up (give a female officer a new iphone/galaxy S4 and post 2 fast officers closer to the doors).  None of these appear to be the response, rather the chief of police is basically admitting defeat.
 
2013-08-16 02:43:33 PM

Surpheon: Tatterdemalian: , the height of the US came and went in the 1940s.

Not sure if your're serious or just racist enough to think the American Apartheid area was "the height of the US".


For white men it pretty much was...
 
2013-08-16 02:50:19 PM

nelsonal: Stings would also be quite easy to set up (give a female officer a new iphone/galaxy S4 and post 2 fast officers closer to the doors).


Stings would actually be pretty tough. It's not a big problem - the crime spree cited here is about 2 a day. Out of over 750,000 riders a day. But while stings are likely pointless (too rare a crime with to many real targets), the balance of your simple plan would work fine. Simple enough to commit a few dozen officers for a few 'emphasis days' to shut it down and make a statement, just a matter of allocating the capital and management to make it happen.
 
2013-08-16 02:57:07 PM

Surpheon: nelsonal: Stings would also be quite easy to set up (give a female officer a new iphone/galaxy S4 and post 2 fast officers closer to the doors).

Stings would actually be pretty tough. It's not a big problem - the crime spree cited here is about 2 a day. Out of over 750,000 riders a day. But while stings are likely pointless (too rare a crime with to many real targets), the balance of your simple plan would work fine. Simple enough to commit a few dozen officers for a few 'emphasis days' to shut it down and make a statement, just a matter of allocating the capital and management to make it happen.


That's fine.  The stings were just for show (and possibly to get some good footage for the news reels).  They've done little but issue warnings for at least 6-8 months.
 
2013-08-16 03:07:21 PM

Inchoate: The Googles Do Nothing: Do these farkers on here whining about how they shouldn't have to worry about holding their phone in their hand whilst wearing earplugs on a crowded train with people of a lower socio-economic background in proximity also lock their doors at night or when they leave? Because they shouldn't then.

False equivalency.


How so? Statement: I shouldn't have to worry about people stealing my crap, therefore I should take no measures to prevent it.

Seems like they are exactly the same to me.

I'm sorry we don't live in a utopia.
 
2013-08-16 03:11:10 PM
Pickpockets rob people gathered to watch the public execution of a pickpocket.  Daguerreotype at 11.
 
2013-08-16 03:27:39 PM
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2013-08-16 03:28:40 PM

shaddix: How so? Statement: I shouldn't have to worry about people stealing my crap, therefore I should take no measures to prevent it.

Seems like they are exactly the same to me.

I'm sorry we don't live in a utopia.


Where shall we begin?

First let's go with the actions. Locking one's doors is fairly standard practice that is a minimal inconvenience as far as cost/benefit. Refraining from ever using one's smartphone in public, never using headphones with a device designed to play music/sound, or otherwise being so paranoid about theft that it significantly impedes normal/practical/entertaining use with that device? That is not standard, and it involves inconvenience that may be great, depending on the circumstances. Not equivalent~

The second mistake, of course, is to assume that people who think victim-blaming is shiatty also think that preventative measures are bad or useless.
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The time for recommending crime protection/prevention is at the very end of an article or a press conference like this, or in its own little feature article. To come right out of the gate with "welp, victims shouldn't have been so stupid" sends a message that it's most important for potential victims to not be victims, rather than for criminals to not commit crimes or for law enforcement to do its goddamn job. It's lazy, just-worldy, insulting, and not very helpful.
 
2013-08-16 05:16:06 PM
This is the same city where city council members didn't want a Wal Mart to open because Wal Mart would just be inviting theft and shoplifting and we can't have that.
 
2013-08-16 05:16:10 PM

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If only the 1% has mobile phones, somebody owes me four Maybachs and a few billion dollars.
 
2013-08-16 05:17:20 PM

jigger: This is the same city where city council members didn't want a Wal Mart to open because Wal Mart would just be inviting theft and shoplifting and we can't have that.


Well, not from multi-billion dollar firms, no.  Mother of moose, lad, we have standards.
 
2013-08-16 05:20:50 PM

bunner: Citizen - "A cop beat me up for no reason."

Cop - "Yeah, try not to piss of the cops."

Citizen - "Somebody stole my phone from my hand."

Cops - "Yeah, try not to tempt thieves."

Your broke ass, piss poor excuse for law enforcement.

Let me show it to you.

I'm gonna put forth a little hypothesis, here.

The only people cops respect are other cops and criminals.  You?  You're a pain in the ass.  Figure out your own problems.


And you'd better pay those taxes, biatch.
 
2013-08-16 11:02:22 PM
The robber in the first video had an accomplice.  Link.  I didn't catch it the first time, but the robber's buddy sprints out of the subway and trips the victim/pursuer.

It should be possible/easy to identify these two men and arrest them.
 
2013-08-17 12:28:15 AM

Rwa2play: The Googles Do Nothing: Do these farkers on here whining about how they shouldn't have to worry about holding their phone in their hand whilst wearing earplugs on a crowded train with people of a lower socio-economic background in proximity also lock their doors at night or when they leave?  Because they shouldn't then.

I can't believe the lack of common sense in the Me-Generation.

So much farking this.


Took the bus for 8 months 5 hours round trip and for 1/2 of my daily bus ride, I rode with many hood rats, thugs, under-employed, sketchy folks.  I tucked my phone into my purse and didn't mess with it while on the city bus so that none of the above mentioned could see it or covet it.  Not that hard.
 
2013-08-17 03:03:10 AM
Couldn't phone thefts be completely eliminated if they made it illegal for service providers to activate plans on stolen phones?
 
2013-08-17 02:27:15 PM
This is how the indigenous populous shops.
 
2013-08-17 05:51:00 PM
If only one of these kids would steal my wifes ipad, I would be thrilled to tears. She can't even make a 5 minute drive to the convenience store without carrying it along to listen to her podcasts.
And those trips to the beach that I used to look forward to because of the 6 - 8 hour drive gave us a chance to reconnect and talk about what was happening in our lives, while we listened to good music in the background? Gone, replaced by me trying to stay awake during the drive while she listens to the latest bravo recap podcast and plays crazy diamonds or whatever her new game of choice is.
Seriously, we used to watch a tv show, then we talked about it for a few minutes, and that led to other conversations about different things. Now replaced by the iPad being grabbed so that she can listen to other people spend an hour and a half talking about a thirty minute tv show.
The temptation to throw that thing as far as I can strikes me often. I can only hope that one day while she's grocery shopping with it sitting in the cart, one of these kids comes along and solves that problem for me.
 
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