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(Washington Post)   Police chief to clueless Washington, DC dumbasses: "You wouldn't go around flaunting $400 in cash in your hand, and that's what you're doing with your phone"   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 135
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2013-08-16 09:19:00 AM  
Hey!  We don't blame the victim in this country.  If you want to wander around with a big wad of cash, or a fancy cell phone in your hand, through crowded, criminal infested metro stations, you should be able to, and no one should be allowed to judge you.  It is no one's fault but the criminal's.
 
2013-08-16 09:36:43 AM  
Then why are they paying your salary, chief?
 
2013-08-16 09:57:37 AM  
I never understood stealing electronics with gps, a camera, a persistent internet connection, and a preinstalled device finder app.

Could fenced/pawned/ebayed stolen phones bring in enough to be worth the risk? Seems like a wallet with a couple of 20s would be a better risk/benefit
 
2013-08-16 10:05:40 AM  

montreal_medic: I never understood stealing electronics with gps, a camera, a persistent internet connection, and a preinstalled device finder app.

Could fenced/pawned/ebayed stolen phones bring in enough to be worth the risk? Seems like a wallet with a couple of 20s would be a better risk/benefit


I was robbed at gunpoint doing a home visit in DC. My phone and iPad were safely away in my backpack had all those things on them. The police made. Big show in the community right after and tracked down my backpack and some of the contents in a dumpster. However in regulars to the electronics they didn't do a damn thing. I gave them all the information and they basically said the kids would have already pawned things off to the next person and let it go.

I know why criminals in DC are bold enough to do this. It's because there is no real risk to them. I always hold my iPad with two hands on diagonal corners and grip it tighter any time we near a station but I know if someone takes it from me the police will be no damn help.
 
2013-08-16 10:12:48 AM  

Gwendolyn: I know why criminals in DC are bold enough to do this. It's because there is no real risk to them. I always hold my iPad with two hands on diagonal corners and grip it tighter any time we near a station but I know if someone takes it from me the police will be no damn help.


And being able to get away with that gives them confidence to try something bigger.
 
2013-08-16 10:24:18 AM  

Gwendolyn: montreal_medic: I never understood stealing electronics with gps, a camera, a persistent internet connection, and a preinstalled device finder app.

Could fenced/pawned/ebayed stolen phones bring in enough to be worth the risk? Seems like a wallet with a couple of 20s would be a better risk/benefit

I was robbed at gunpoint doing a home visit in DC. My phone and iPad were safely away in my backpack had all those things on them. The police made. Big show in the community right after and tracked down my backpack and some of the contents in a dumpster. However in regulars to the electronics they didn't do a damn thing. I gave them all the information and they basically said the kids would have already pawned things off to the next person and let it go.

I know why criminals in DC are bold enough to do this. It's because there is no real risk to them. I always hold my iPad with two hands on diagonal corners and grip it tighter any time we near a station but I know if someone takes it from me the police will be no damn help.


Glad you're ok - That's crazy.

Wouldn't a pawnbroker offer a pittance for stolen phones? If someone can prove a phone is theirs, I imagine the pawnshop has to give it back (I have no illusions that anyone would go after them for trafficking in stolen goods, that would make too much sense) and they are not in the business of losing money. Especially given how easy they are to track and remotely brick, and how cheap they are when subsidized by a carrier, who would pay money for a sketchy used phone without knowing if you would be confronted by the real owner or have already been turned into a paperweight. I know I wouldnt pay $50 for a questionable iPhone or Android when I could get a new legit one for about the same or less. So how could a broker, given all the risks of having traceable stolen inventory (unlike tvs and the like which are essentially untraceable unless you keep the serial numbers and happen to stumble into them) offer more than 10 or 20 dollars for something he'd be lucky to sell for 40 or 50?

I guess I figured the used market would be next to zero....

Maybe I'm naive, living in a relatively low crime area in Canuckistan
 
2013-08-16 11:08:54 AM  
he's right
 
2013-08-16 11:13:49 AM  

Aarontology: Then why are they paying your salary, chief?


Done in 2.
//Chief admits he is a failure at his job so your security is on you...
 
2013-08-16 11:17:38 AM  
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-str e et-robbery-20130815,0,7011188.story

In Baltimore, groups of criminals are stealing cars then joyriding around looking for pedestrians to rob. They are targeting joggers among other victims.
 
2013-08-16 11:19:17 AM  
And don't get him started on those people flaunting tens of thousands of dollars by driving a CAR around D.C! Talk about letting your guard down. Everybody should just walk around that city naked and possessionless.
 
2013-08-16 11:21:10 AM  
FTFA: "You wouldn't go around flaunting $400 in cash in your hand, and that's what you're doing with your phone," the chief said.

The chief then went on to say that women with large breasts have only themselves to blame if they are sexually assaulted if they dress like sluts, "Put on a damn burqa and you won't have any problems".
 
2013-08-16 11:21:51 AM  
You wouldn't go out at night dressed in sexually flattering clothing, would you ladies?
 
2013-08-16 11:22:15 AM  
Hell, the S&W 9mm I keep in a shoulder holster under my jacket is worth more than that.
 
2013-08-16 11:23:51 AM  

montreal_medic: Gwendolyn: montreal_medic: I never understood stealing electronics with gps, a camera, a persistent internet connection, and a preinstalled device finder app.

Could fenced/pawned/ebayed stolen phones bring in enough to be worth the risk? Seems like a wallet with a couple of 20s would be a better risk/benefit

I was robbed at gunpoint doing a home visit in DC. My phone and iPad were safely away in my backpack had all those things on them. The police made. Big show in the community right after and tracked down my backpack and some of the contents in a dumpster. However in regulars to the electronics they didn't do a damn thing. I gave them all the information and they basically said the kids would have already pawned things off to the next person and let it go.

I know why criminals in DC are bold enough to do this. It's because there is no real risk to them. I always hold my iPad with two hands on diagonal corners and grip it tighter any time we near a station but I know if someone takes it from me the police will be no damn help.

Glad you're ok - That's crazy.

Wouldn't a pawnbroker offer a pittance for stolen phones? If someone can prove a phone is theirs, I imagine the pawnshop has to give it back (I have no illusions that anyone would go after them for trafficking in stolen goods, that would make too much sense) and they are not in the business of losing money. Especially given how easy they are to track and remotely brick, and how cheap they are when subsidized by a carrier, who would pay money for a sketchy used phone without knowing if you would be confronted by the real owner or have already been turned into a paperweight. I know I wouldnt pay $50 for a questionable iPhone or Android when I could get a new legit one for about the same or less. So how could a broker, given all the risks of having traceable stolen inventory (unlike tvs and the like which are essentially untraceable unless you keep the serial numbers and happen to stumble into them) offer more ...


The "pawning" is actually happening with automated "sell your phone for cash" machines.  They are supposed to be updated with lists of stolen phones, but that doesn't happen quickly enough to prevent these kinds of thefts.

$20 for an iPhone seems like a ridiculous proposition, but $20 is $20.
 
2013-08-16 11:24:30 AM  
should be able to walk around flaunting $400 in cash in my hand.  Clean up your farking cesspool of a city!
 
2013-08-16 11:25:00 AM  

monoski: Aarontology: Then why are they paying your salary, chief?

Done in 2.
//Chief admits he is a failure at his job so your security is on you...


Unless they have some type of pre-crime bureau, he has a point.
 
2013-08-16 11:25:34 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: You wouldn't go out at night dressed in sexually flattering clothing, would you ladies?



I take it you've never been to a nightclub.
 
2013-08-16 11:26:18 AM  

vudukungfu: Hell, the S&W 9mm I keep in a shoulder holster under my jacket is worth more than that.



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2013-08-16 11:26:18 AM  

FrancoFile: montreal_medic: Gwendolyn: montreal_medic: I never understood stealing electronics with gps, a camera, a persistent internet connection, and a preinstalled device finder app.

Could fenced/pawned/ebayed stolen phones bring in enough to be worth the risk? Seems like a wallet with a couple of 20s would be a better risk/benefit

I was robbed at gunpoint doing a home visit in DC. My phone and iPad were safely away in my backpack had all those things on them. The police made. Big show in the community right after and tracked down my backpack and some of the contents in a dumpster. However in regulars to the electronics they didn't do a damn thing. I gave them all the information and they basically said the kids would have already pawned things off to the next person and let it go.

I know why criminals in DC are bold enough to do this. It's because there is no real risk to them. I always hold my iPad with two hands on diagonal corners and grip it tighter any time we near a station but I know if someone takes it from me the police will be no damn help.

Glad you're ok - That's crazy.

Wouldn't a pawnbroker offer a pittance for stolen phones? If someone can prove a phone is theirs, I imagine the pawnshop has to give it back (I have no illusions that anyone would go after them for trafficking in stolen goods, that would make too much sense) and they are not in the business of losing money. Especially given how easy they are to track and remotely brick, and how cheap they are when subsidized by a carrier, who would pay money for a sketchy used phone without knowing if you would be confronted by the real owner or have already been turned into a paperweight. I know I wouldnt pay $50 for a questionable iPhone or Android when I could get a new legit one for about the same or less. So how could a broker, given all the risks of having traceable stolen inventory (unlike tvs and the like which are essentially untraceable unless you keep the serial numbers and happen to stumble into ...


never heard of those.. off to Google....

WHY????
 
2013-08-16 11:26:20 AM  

montreal_medic: Maybe I'm naive, living in a relatively low crime area in Canuckistan


I live in what Canada calls a "high crime" city.  I have never felt safer in my life.  Violent crimes are a major news event here.  Theft is a major news event.  It's just so unthinkable here.  It's crazy, compared to the States.  It's REALLY crazy compared to DC and Tacoma.
 
2013-08-16 11:27:04 AM  

devildog123: Hey!  We don't blame the victim in this country.  If you want to wander around with a big wad of cash, or a fancy cell phone in your hand, through crowded, criminal infested metro stations, you should be able to, and no one should be allowed to judge you.  It is no one's fault but the criminal's.


HAHAHA farkING GOLDEN SIR! MOTHER farkING GOLDEN HAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
2013-08-16 11:27:32 AM  

montreal_medic: I never understood stealing electronics with gps, a camera, a persistent internet connection, and a preinstalled device finder app.

Could fenced/pawned/ebayed stolen phones bring in enough to be worth the risk? Seems like a wallet with a couple of 20s would be a better risk/benefit



Nobody carrys cash anymore


/bankcards can be cancelled quickly
 
2013-08-16 11:27:34 AM  
Dear METRO TRANSIT POLICE CHIEF,


You have 420 Police Officers at your disposal, use them.. YOUR ONLY JOB IS THE METRO. I mean DC has freaking LIBRARY POLICE, and Park Police, and City and Feds, your only job is the metro. If this a problem deal with it, increase police presence, have undercovers on the trains. It sounds like it's primarily the Red and Green/Yellow lines so crack down on those.

signed,
DC resident
 
2013-08-16 11:28:56 AM  

montreal_medic: FrancoFile: montreal_medic: Gwendolyn: montreal_medic: I never understood stealing electronics with gps, a camera, a persistent internet connection, and a preinstalled device finder app.

Could fenced/pawned/ebayed stolen phones bring in enough to be worth the risk? Seems like a wallet with a couple of 20s would be a better risk/benefit

I was robbed at gunpoint doing a home visit in DC. My phone and iPad were safely away in my backpack had all those things on them. The police made. Big show in the community right after and tracked down my backpack and some of the contents in a dumpster. However in regulars to the electronics they didn't do a damn thing. I gave them all the information and they basically said the kids would have already pawned things off to the next person and let it go.

I know why criminals in DC are bold enough to do this. It's because there is no real risk to them. I always hold my iPad with two hands on diagonal corners and grip it tighter any time we near a station but I know if someone takes it from me the police will be no damn help.

Glad you're ok - That's crazy.

Wouldn't a pawnbroker offer a pittance for stolen phones? If someone can prove a phone is theirs, I imagine the pawnshop has to give it back (I have no illusions that anyone would go after them for trafficking in stolen goods, that would make too much sense) and they are not in the business of losing money. Especially given how easy they are to track and remotely brick, and how cheap they are when subsidized by a carrier, who would pay money for a sketchy used phone without knowing if you would be confronted by the real owner or have already been turned into a paperweight. I know I wouldnt pay $50 for a questionable iPhone or Android when I could get a new legit one for about the same or less. So how could a broker, given all the risks of having traceable stolen inventory (unlike tvs and the like which are essentially untraceable unless you keep the serial numbers and happen to s ...



locations near DC:
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2013-08-16 11:28:58 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: You wouldn't go out at night dressed in sexually flattering clothing, would you ladies?


I take it you've never been to a nightclub.


Not an "hip hop" night
 
2013-08-16 11:28:58 AM  

zedster: Dear METRO TRANSIT POLICE CHIEF,


You have 420 Police Officers at your disposal, use them.. YOUR ONLY JOB IS THE METRO. I mean DC has freaking LIBRARY POLICE, and Park Police, and City and Feds, your only job is the metro. If this a problem deal with it, increase police presence, have undercovers on the trains. It sounds like it's primarily the Red and Green/Yellow lines so crack down on those.

signed,
DC resident



Not to see them on the street. It's like the Metro Transit cops are trying to expand their jurisdictions one car stop at a time. They pull people over all of the time in DC.
 
2013-08-16 11:29:24 AM  
Citizen - "A cop beat me up for no reason."

Cop - "Yeah, try not to piss of the cops."

Citizen - "Somebody stole my phone from my hand."

Cops - "Yeah, try not to tempt thieves."

Your broke ass, piss poor excuse for law enforcement.

Let me show it to you.

I'm gonna put forth a little hypothesis, here.

The only people cops respect are other cops and criminals.  You?  You're a pain in the ass.  Figure out your own problems.
 
2013-08-16 11:30:12 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: montreal_medic: I never understood stealing electronics with gps, a camera, a persistent internet connection, and a preinstalled device finder app.

Could fenced/pawned/ebayed stolen phones bring in enough to be worth the risk? Seems like a wallet with a couple of 20s would be a better risk/benefit


Nobody carrys cash anymore


/bankcards can be cancelled quickly


Which is why I carry cash.

I buy something out of the ordinary, the bank kills my card and my CC, since they're linked to the same account. Since I have no interest in having a second bank card, I always carry a couple of smaller bills so I can still pay for my lunch/coffee/whatever

Figured everyone has at least 20 bucks real money
 
2013-08-16 11:30:15 AM  

zedster: Dear METRO TRANSIT POLICE CHIEF,


You have 420 Police Officers at your disposal, use them.. YOUR ONLY JOB IS THE METRO. I mean DC has freaking LIBRARY POLICE, and Park Police, and City and Feds, your only job is the metro. If this a problem deal with it, increase police presence, have undercovers on the trains. It sounds like it's primarily the Red and Green/Yellow lines so crack down on those. SHOOT ROBBERS IN THE FACE. Problem Solved.

signed,
DC resident

 
2013-08-16 11:30:39 AM  
Good thing I got the $399 iPhone. I should be OK.
 
2013-08-16 11:31:30 AM  
Yep - San Francisco has a huge smartphone-theft problem as well.
 
2013-08-16 11:31:54 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Not to see them on the street. It's like the Metro Transit cops are trying to expand their jurisdictions one car stop at a time. They pull people over all of the time in DC.


revenue generating, that being said if they could start busting people who make illegal turns in front of buses or block stops that would be great and with in their mission.
 
2013-08-16 11:31:58 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: DROxINxTHExWIND: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: You wouldn't go out at night dressed in sexually flattering clothing, would you ladies?


I take it you've never been to a nightclub.

Not an "hip hop" night



That's a shame. Your mother can really twerk. You should show up one night to support her.


/Low hanging fruit
 
2013-08-16 11:32:44 AM  

devildog123: Hey!  We don't blame the victim in this country.  If you want to wander around with a big wad of cash, or a fancy cell phone in your hand, through crowded, criminal infested metro stations, you should be able to, and no one should be allowed to judge you.  It is no one's fault but the criminal's.


There's a difference between saying "doing these things increase your probability of being a crime victim" and "these things make it so you deserve it". Saying "be aware of your surroundings", "don't flaunt your expensive things", etc. is the former. Saying "she was asking for it" is the latter.
 
2013-08-16 11:33:03 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: DROxINxTHExWIND: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: You wouldn't go out at night dressed in sexually flattering clothing, would you ladies?


I take it you've never been to a nightclub.

Not an "hip hop" night


That's a shame. Your mother can really twerk. You should show up one night to support her.


/Low hanging fruit


How's your dad, by the way? Oh, that's right....
 
2013-08-16 11:33:24 AM  

montreal_medic: Gwendolyn: montreal_medic: I never understood stealing electronics with gps, a camera, a persistent internet connection, and a preinstalled device finder app.

Could fenced/pawned/ebayed stolen phones bring in enough to be worth the risk? Seems like a wallet with a couple of 20s would be a better risk/benefit

I was robbed at gunpoint doing a home visit in DC. My phone and iPad were safely away in my backpack had all those things on them. The police made. Big show in the community right after and tracked down my backpack and some of the contents in a dumpster. However in regulars to the electronics they didn't do a damn thing. I gave them all the information and they basically said the kids would have already pawned things off to the next person and let it go.

I know why criminals in DC are bold enough to do this. It's because there is no real risk to them. I always hold my iPad with two hands on diagonal corners and grip it tighter any time we near a station but I know if someone takes it from me the police will be no damn help.

Glad you're ok - That's crazy.

Wouldn't a pawnbroker offer a pittance for stolen phones? If someone can prove a phone is theirs, I imagine the pawnshop has to give it back (I have no illusions that anyone would go after them for trafficking in stolen goods, that would make too much sense) and they are not in the business of losing money. Especially given how easy they are to track and remotely brick, and how cheap they are when subsidized by a carrier, who would pay money for a sketchy used phone without knowing if you would be confronted by the real owner or have already been turned into a paperweight. I know I wouldnt pay $50 for a questionable iPhone or Android when I could get a new legit one for about the same or less. So how could a broker, given all the risks of having traceable stolen inventory (unlike tvs and the like which are essentially untraceable unless you keep the serial numbers and happen to stumble into them) offer more than 10 or 20 dollars for something he'd be lucky to sell for 40 or 50?

I guess I figured the used market would be next to zero....

Maybe I'm naive, living in a relatively low crime area in Canuckistan


Here is how it works. The original person sells the cell phone for $20 or so. By pawning its more like a local criminal who can make more out of it. The next person who gets it makes calls to Nigeria or where ever as they use it. It usually takes a few hours for someone to turn off the phone. Then they break the screen it and sell it to gazelle or where ever that will pay to recycle it for the precious metals. iPads are quickly sold to someone who usually is the neighborhood tech guru who can reset the damn thing and then resells it for $150 or something they somehow get stolen phones set up with new SIM cards and numbers.
 
2013-08-16 11:34:04 AM  
To emphasize his point and show how quickly such thefts take place, Pavlik released two videos. In one a man snatches a device from another rider just before the doors shut on a train stopped at the Capitol Heights station. In another, a man dashes from the back of a Metrobus, snatches a woman's phone and exits the bus as the doors close.


Hmmmm, I never really thought about it but that does sound really easy to get away with.  Thanks for the ideas, chief!
 
2013-08-16 11:34:31 AM  

evaned: "don't flaunt your expensive things",


So, only use your mobile phone in the privacy of your own home?
 
2013-08-16 11:34:52 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: DROxINxTHExWIND: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: DROxINxTHExWIND: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: You wouldn't go out at night dressed in sexually flattering clothing, would you ladies?


I take it you've never been to a nightclub.

Not an "hip hop" night


That's a shame. Your mother can really twerk. You should show up one night to support her.


/Low hanging fruit

How's your dad, by the way? Oh, that's right....



He's doing pretty good. We met about two weeks ago at the club when we both tried to tip your mom at the same time. Figured we were related because we have the same taste in white trach women.
 
2013-08-16 11:35:10 AM  
Newsflash: Pickpockets have always applied the same methods, for whatever they were stealing. And for whomever they ripped off.  It's a lot easier to defeat the amateurs than the pros, with simple precautions and situational awareness.

/they'd almost have to tickle my 'privates' before they could lift my keys, wallet or cell phone.
 
2013-08-16 11:35:49 AM  

bunner: evaned: "don't flaunt your expensive things",

So, only use your mobile phone in the privacy of your own home?



I would, if I could get reception.


/Mutherfark YOU Sprint.
 
2013-08-16 11:35:56 AM  
I don't have a cellphone theft problem, but I can shoot you in the face for trying to steal it.
 
2013-08-16 11:36:19 AM  
This whole "grab and run thing" used to not be such a problem.  Now it's becoming so common that no one is doing anything about it.  So the thieves are everywhere now.  They know no one will stop them.  And now that literally everyone is holding their iPhone or other such device in their hand, they are SUCH easy targets.

I saw those clips of the "Sliders" as they've come to be known.  They would steal shiat right out of someone's car, in broad daylight, while the owner is right there, and on security video - license plate and all.  And they still get away.  Because by the time any law enforcement catches up, they've taken what they need, pawned off the rest, and disposed of what they don't want.

Best thing to do is not be so obvious with your stuff.  Since that Sliders thing was shown, I notice that women parking at work go to their trunk to retrieve their purse after they park.  That's smart.  Unortunately necessary.  And smart.
 
2013-08-16 11:36:22 AM  

bunner: evaned: "don't flaunt your expensive things",

So, only use your mobile phone in the privacy of your own home?


But how will everyone at Starbucks know I have an iPhone 7SC!?!?!
 
2013-08-16 11:37:03 AM  

Gwendolyn: montreal_medic: Gwendolyn: montreal_medic: I never understood stealing electronics with gps, a camera, a persistent internet connection, and a preinstalled device finder app.

Could fenced/pawned/ebayed stolen phones bring in enough to be worth the risk? Seems like a wallet with a couple of 20s would be a better risk/benefit

I was robbed at gunpoint doing a home visit in DC. My phone and iPad were safely away in my backpack had all those things on them. The police made. Big show in the community right after and tracked down my backpack and some of the contents in a dumpster. However in regulars to the electronics they didn't do a damn thing. I gave them all the information and they basically said the kids would have already pawned things off to the next person and let it go.

I know why criminals in DC are bold enough to do this. It's because there is no real risk to them. I always hold my iPad with two hands on diagonal corners and grip it tighter any time we near a station but I know if someone takes it from me the police will be no damn help.

Glad you're ok - That's crazy.

Wouldn't a pawnbroker offer a pittance for stolen phones? If someone can prove a phone is theirs, I imagine the pawnshop has to give it back (I have no illusions that anyone would go after them for trafficking in stolen goods, that would make too much sense) and they are not in the business of losing money. Especially given how easy they are to track and remotely brick, and how cheap they are when subsidized by a carrier, who would pay money for a sketchy used phone without knowing if you would be confronted by the real owner or have already been turned into a paperweight. I know I wouldnt pay $50 for a questionable iPhone or Android when I could get a new legit one for about the same or less. So how could a broker, given all the risks of having traceable stolen inventory (unlike tvs and the like which are essentially untraceable unless you keep the serial numbers and happen to stumble into ...


The more you know

Thanks
 
2013-08-16 11:37:15 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: DROxINxTHExWIND: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: DROxINxTHExWIND: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: You wouldn't go out at night dressed in sexually flattering clothing, would you ladies?


I take it you've never been to a nightclub.

Not an "hip hop" night


That's a shame. Your mother can really twerk. You should show up one night to support her.


/Low hanging fruit

How's your dad, by the way? Oh, that's right....


He's doing pretty good. We met about two weeks ago at the club when we both tried to tip your mom at the same time. Figured we were related because we have the same taste in white trach women.


Seriously though, your dad is involved your life?
 
2013-08-16 11:37:33 AM  

Beeblebrox: bunner: evaned: "don't flaunt your expensive things",

So, only use your mobile phone in the privacy of your own home?

But how will everyone at Starbucks know I have an iPhone 7SC!?!?!


Download .jpg of 7SC.  Print.  Glue to deck of cards.  Impress your friends safely.
 
2013-08-16 11:37:52 AM  
so you know that your police force aint worth shiat, but you refuse to change your habits because they should be doing a better job?

good luck with that
 
2013-08-16 11:38:03 AM  

Molavian: I don't have a cellphone theft problem, but I can shoot you in the face for trying to steal it.


Now I want to steal your phone, I got... issues.
 
2013-08-16 11:38:08 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: bunner: evaned: "don't flaunt your expensive things",

So, only use your mobile phone in the privacy of your own home?


I would, if I could get reception.


/Mutherfark YOU Sprint.


This was me with Verizon two years ago. Then, boom, after being gone for a weekend, got home and had full bars.  As much as Verizon sucks (and they do), they did okay this one time.  Hopefully you'll get your coverage upgraded.
 
2013-08-16 11:38:18 AM  

Gwendolyn: montreal_medic: I never understood stealing electronics with gps, a camera, a persistent internet connection, and a preinstalled device finder app.

Could fenced/pawned/ebayed stolen phones bring in enough to be worth the risk? Seems like a wallet with a couple of 20s would be a better risk/benefit

I was robbed at gunpoint doing a home visit in DC. My phone and iPad were safely away in my backpack had all those things on them. The police made. Big show in the community right after and tracked down my backpack and some of the contents in a dumpster. However in regulars to the electronics they didn't do a damn thing. I gave them all the information and they basically said the kids would have already pawned things off to the next person and let it go.

I know why criminals in DC are bold enough to do this. It's because there is no real risk to them. I always hold my iPad with two hands on diagonal corners and grip it tighter any time we near a station but I know if someone takes it from me the police will be no damn help.


Maybe the police couldn't understand what you were telling them. Just a thought in regulars to your story.
 
2013-08-16 11:39:26 AM  

bunner: Beeblebrox: bunner: evaned: "don't flaunt your expensive things",

So, only use your mobile phone in the privacy of your own home?

But how will everyone at Starbucks know I have an iPhone 7SC!?!?!

Download .jpg of 7SC.  Print.  Glue to deck of cards.  Impress your friends safely.


Okay, I've gotten the first parts done.  Now I'm working on "friends".
 
2013-08-16 11:40:14 AM  

insano: Gwendolyn: montreal_medic: I never understood stealing electronics with gps, a camera, a persistent internet connection, and a preinstalled device finder app.

Could fenced/pawned/ebayed stolen phones bring in enough to be worth the risk? Seems like a wallet with a couple of 20s would be a better risk/benefit

I was robbed at gunpoint doing a home visit in DC. My phone and iPad were safely away in my backpack had all those things on them. The police made. Big show in the community right after and tracked down my backpack and some of the contents in a dumpster. However in regulars to the electronics they didn't do a damn thing. I gave them all the information and they basically said the kids would have already pawned things off to the next person and let it go.

I know why criminals in DC are bold enough to do this. It's because there is no real risk to them. I always hold my iPad with two hands on diagonal corners and grip it tighter any time we near a station but I know if someone takes it from me the police will be no damn help.

Maybe the police couldn't understand what you were telling them. Just a thought in regulars to your story.


Give her a break.  She's posting this from her iPad with both hands wrapped around it, for security.
 
2013-08-16 11:42:02 AM  

zedster: Dear METRO TRANSIT POLICE CHIEF,


You have 420 Police Officers at your disposal, use them.. YOUR ONLY JOB IS THE METRO. I mean DC has freaking LIBRARY POLICE, and Park Police, and City and Feds, your only job is the metro. If this a problem deal with it, increase police presence, have undercovers on the trains. It sounds like it's primarily the Red and Green/Yellow lines so crack down on those.

signed,
DC resident


Preeeeeeetty much this.

Don't blame the victims, Mr. Assclown Police Chief. Blame your inept staff.
 
2013-08-16 11:42:46 AM  

Gwendolyn: I know why criminals in DC are bold enough to do this. It's because there is no real risk to them. I always hold my iPad with two hands on diagonal corners and grip it tighter any time we near a station but I know if someone takes it from me the police will be no damn help.


There was a nice story a few months ago about an NYPD officer who was approached by a woman who told her her cellphone had been stolen on the subway. As I recall, the cop used his own phone to log in to her tracking software, followed the train until the guy got off, and caught him.

I'm speculating that she must have been incredibly hot.
 
2013-08-16 11:45:51 AM  

Gwendolyn: montreal_medic: I never understood stealing electronics with gps, a camera, a persistent internet connection, and a preinstalled device finder app.

Could fenced/pawned/ebayed stolen phones bring in enough to be worth the risk? Seems like a wallet with a couple of 20s would be a better risk/benefit

I was robbed at gunpoint doing a home visit in DC.  *snip*


Impossible.  Guns are banned in DC, there is NO WAY that someone could rob you at gunpoint within the city limits...
 
2013-08-16 11:46:17 AM  

montreal_medic: Wouldn't a pawnbroker offer a pittance for stolen phones? If someone can prove a phone is theirs, I imagine the pawnshop has to give it back


Legit pawnbrokers have to record the ID of anyone pawning something, and in some locales a thumbprint is required and they even send the serial numbers of high-end stuff directly to the cops. So unless you have a pawnbroker who's willing to look the other way, you typically wouldn't pawn something like that.
 
2013-08-16 11:48:27 AM  

neversubmit: Molavian: I don't have a cellphone theft problem, but I can shoot you in the face for trying to steal it.

Now I want to steal your phone, I got... issues.

 
2013-08-16 11:49:47 AM  

bongmiester: he's right


She, and no she's not.  They said that during the height of the Roman empire a woman could walk alone on the imperial roads  from Gaul to Rome with a sackful of gold coins in perfect safety.

It 2013 and I expect the same thing to be true of the capital city of the greatest nation on earth.   Especially one so festoon with cameras that they are even installing them on STOP SIGNS now.  Telling people that they should be afraid to have their phone in their hands while travelling essentially defeats the entire purpose of having a mobile phone, now doesn't it?
 
2013-08-16 11:56:02 AM  
My work international phone (iPhone 4S) was pickpocketed on the subway in Brussels.  I used my own phone to e-mail our IS guy to tell him what happened.  Within 15 minutes the stolen phone was shut off.  There's no way they got through the layers of security on that phone to do anythig useful with it before it was a brick.  And I know who did it.  They work in teams.  You would never suspect the guy who was standing behind me.  Older guy - in his 60s, well-dressed.  He was the only person that could have done it.

The point isn't to share a CSB, it's to let you know that you can't judge the book by the cover - take precautions and mitigate your risk.
 
2013-08-16 11:56:32 AM  

Gwendolyn: montreal_medic: I never understood stealing electronics with gps, a camera, a persistent internet connection, and a preinstalled device finder app.

Could fenced/pawned/ebayed stolen phones bring in enough to be worth the risk? Seems like a wallet with a couple of 20s would be a better risk/benefit

I was robbed at gunpoint doing a home visit in DC. My phone and iPad were safely away in my backpack had all those things on them. The police made. Big show in the community right after and tracked down my backpack and some of the contents in a dumpster. However in regulars to the electronics they didn't do a damn thing. I gave them all the information and they basically said the kids would have already pawned things off to the next person and let it go.

I know why criminals in DC are bold enough to do this. It's because there is no real risk to them. I always hold my iPad with two hands on diagonal corners and grip it tighter any time we near a station but I know if someone takes it from me the police will be no damn help.


Sounds like you'd be better off dropping or attempting to break it if someone tries to steal it, then they'd leave it, and at least you'd get the insurance to get a new device.

/likes his old flip style phone, no one would try to steal it
 
2013-08-16 11:57:22 AM  
Yet another reason a $20 flip phone is just better.
 
2013-08-16 11:57:30 AM  

Magorn: bongmiester: he's right

She, and no she's not.  They said that during the height of the Roman empire a woman could walk alone on the imperial roads  from Gaul to Rome with a sackful of gold coins in perfect safety.

It 2013 and I expect the same thing to be true of the capital city of the greatest nation on earth.   Especially one so festoon with cameras that they are even installing them on STOP SIGNS now.  Telling people that they should be afraid to have their phone in their hands while travelling essentially defeats the entire purpose of having a mobile phone, now doesn't it?


So the 5% of the empire that were actually citizens used free bread and entertainment to keep the masses down.  And they put together ethnically-distinct army units to patrol other parts of the empire.  And were willing to enforce summary execution for theft.  We could do that too.  But I don't exactly think that's the kind of society you want to have, is it?
 
2013-08-16 11:57:55 AM  

montreal_medic: Gwendolyn: montreal_medic: I never understood stealing electronics with gps, a camera, a persistent internet connection, and a preinstalled device finder app.

Could fenced/pawned/ebayed stolen phones bring in enough to be worth the risk? Seems like a wallet with a couple of 20s would be a better risk/benefit

I was robbed at gunpoint doing a home visit in DC. My phone and iPad were safely away in my backpack had all those things on them. The police made. Big show in the community right after and tracked down my backpack and some of the contents in a dumpster. However in regulars to the electronics they didn't do a damn thing. I gave them all the information and they basically said the kids would have already pawned things off to the next person and let it go.

I know why criminals in DC are bold enough to do this. It's because there is no real risk to them. I always hold my iPad with two hands on diagonal corners and grip it tighter any time we near a station but I know if someone takes it from me the police will be no damn help.

Glad you're ok - That's crazy.

Wouldn't a pawnbroker offer a pittance for stolen phones? If someone can prove a phone is theirs, I imagine the pawnshop has to give it back (I have no illusions that anyone would go after them for trafficking in stolen goods, that would make too much sense) and they are not in the business of losing money. Especially given how easy they are to track and remotely brick, and how cheap they are when subsidized by a carrier, who would pay money for a sketchy used phone without knowing if you would be confronted by the real owner or have already been turned into a paperweight. I know I wouldnt pay $50 for a questionable iPhone or Android when I could get a new legit one for about the same or less. So how could a broker, given all the risks of having traceable stolen inventory (unlike tvs and the like which are essentially untraceable unless you keep the serial numbers and happen to stumble into them) offer more ...


Wipe and restore and all traces of the previous owner are gone.  When I was mugged the police didn't care to take down the serial number so it was a moot point.  It never showed up on find my phone (but they probably wiped it before I had a chance to check).

Looking forward to iOS7 and it's ability to require a password even after a restore has been done.
 
2013-08-16 11:58:02 AM  
Easy to set up a sting.

Fast movers with tazers and radios. No mercy. Done.

/Taz them bro!
 
2013-08-16 11:58:23 AM  
BPP

Black peoples profit
 
2013-08-16 12:01:53 PM  
Smartphones, even and especially expensive ones, are commonplace items now, and not just for rich people. Using one in public is not "flaunting $400 in cash", it's being a farking human being in 2013.

It should be reasonably safe to use such devices in public. Of course theft victims should take precautions. But it is unbelievably disrespectful and lazy of the police to blame people for having the temerity to do everyday things in the possible presence of thieves.
 
2013-08-16 12:02:38 PM  
I just did a slutwalk in dc because of law enforcement blaming the victim
they still aren't learning
the unwillingness of the courts here to sentence people for things that aren't political is part of the problem
all chiefs are hired because they are political and status quo instead of talented
I'm in the mix in this federal crap city,
 nobody will give a shiat about your gear unless it happens to the wife or child of a rich political animal
 
2013-08-16 12:03:15 PM  
"You wouldn't go around flaunting $400 in cash in your hand, and that's what you're doing with your phone," the chief said.

If a wad of cash played music and let me read books and browse the internet, I would.  Idiot police chief makes bad analogy instead of doing his job.  That makes me feel safer when I take the metro in to work.
 
2013-08-16 12:04:01 PM  
Pockafrusta
Easy to set up a sting.
Fast movers with tazers and radios. No mercy. Done.
/Taz them bro!


Seconded. And unlike those bogus wallet shakedowns, or questionable police bait car scams, people would love police doing this type of morality test.
 
2013-08-16 12:08:22 PM  

Enemabag Jones: Seconded. And unlike those bogus wallet shakedowns, or questionable police bait car scams, people would love police doing this type of morality test.


Yup.
Hell, if a few of those 400-odd Metro cops had been in the station for the first video, maybe you wouldn't be seeing the guy run an unmolested marathon all the way through it.
 
2013-08-16 12:08:53 PM  
montreal_medic
I never understood stealing electronics with gps, a camera, a persistent internet connection, and a preinstalled device finder app.
Could fenced/pawned/ebayed stolen phones bring in enough to be worth the risk? Seems like a wallet with a couple of 20s would be a better risk/benefit

Any more stupid then copper scroungers tearing up a house for their next meth fix?
 
2013-08-16 12:10:53 PM  
Wait 'til the cops, the feds and your bank start telling you how much cash, if any, you're allowed to take from your accounts and stockpile at home.  "whatcha need all that cash for, terr'ist?  You buyin' C4 with it from terr'ists, terr'ist?"
 
2013-08-16 12:13:48 PM  

evaned: devildog123: Hey!  We don't blame the victim in this country.  If you want to wander around with a big wad of cash, or a fancy cell phone in your hand, through crowded, criminal infested metro stations, you should be able to, and no one should be allowed to judge you.  It is no one's fault but the criminal's.

There's a difference between saying "doing these things increase your probability of being a crime victim" and "these things make it so you deserve it". Saying "be aware of your surroundings", "don't flaunt your expensive things", etc. is the former. Saying "she was asking for it" is the latter.


Try telling some ladies they need to be aware of their surroundings and you'll get swarmed with people telling you to stop blaming the victims.
 
2013-08-16 12:14:05 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: DROxINxTHExWIND: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: DROxINxTHExWIND: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: You wouldn't go out at night dressed in sexually flattering clothing, would you ladies?


I take it you've never been to a nightclub.

Not an "hip hop" night


That's a shame. Your mother can really twerk. You should show up one night to support her.


/Low hanging fruit

How's your dad, by the way? Oh, that's right....


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-08-16 12:15:02 PM  
I'm not flaunting $400, I'm getting home early to see my kids because I can answer a critical by 2 minute question if it comes up on the analysis due tomorrow. Add up the several hundred hours of free time I've gotten from being able to take the occasional call on a train platform and I'm willing to risk the occasional phone theft.

They cite a 2 week crime spree of 40 thefts - out of 8 million passenger trips. Not all those passengers used their iPhones, but risk/reward I don't have a hard choice here.
 
2013-08-16 12:15:38 PM  
Yeah. Because you can't even get the DC metro police to even patrol and ticket people playing music, eating or not committing crimes themselves (like getting busted while on the clock trying to get a prostitute) you think they have time for this?
 
2013-08-16 12:17:50 PM  
Remember guys.  You have to be the baddest motherf*ker in the room.  Let people know you're a success.

Ladies?  Somebody is trying to tell YOU that YOU should do something?  That's oppressive!  You're being insulted by misogynists!  Get your b*tch on and straighten them out, gurrrl!

And always remember, trust the police and do whatever criminals say for your own safety!

Oh, and make sure all of your transactions are safely recorded by only using debit and credit cards.  For freedom.  This may be the first time in history that the sheep actually not only drive themselves and the butcher to the slaughterhouse, but pay for the gas and tolls.
 
2013-08-16 12:18:14 PM  

natas6.0: I just did a slutwalk in dc because of law enforcement blaming the victim


Sounds like the sort of protest I would like to be involved with.
 
2013-08-16 12:19:38 PM  

bunner: Remember guys.  You have to be the baddest motherf*ker in the room.  Let people know you're a success.

Ladies?  Somebody is trying to tell YOU that YOU should do something?  That's oppressive!  You're being insulted by misogynists!  Get your b*tch on and straighten them out, gurrrl!

And always remember, trust the police and do whatever criminals say for your own safety!

Oh, and make sure all of your transactions are safely recorded by only using debit and credit cards.  For freedom.  This may be the first time in history that the sheep actually not only drive themselves and the butcher to the slaughterhouse, but pay for the gas and tolls.


Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!
 
2013-08-16 12:21:42 PM  

for good or for awesome: bunner: Remember guys.  You have to be the baddest motherf*ker in the room.  Let people know you're a success.

Ladies?  Somebody is trying to tell YOU that YOU should do something?  That's oppressive!  You're being insulted by misogynists!  Get your b*tch on and straighten them out, gurrrl!

And always remember, trust the police and do whatever criminals say for your own safety!

Oh, and make sure all of your transactions are safely recorded by only using debit and credit cards.  For freedom.  This may be the first time in history that the sheep actually not only drive themselves and the butcher to the slaughterhouse, but pay for the gas and tolls.

Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!


Yes!  by the sekrit muzlim terr'ists who are dealing in nefarious transactions!  You better give us all your bank and phone records!  Oh, wait.. sorry.  We already have them.  Now pull that skirt down over your knees and hide your phone, you enabler.
 
2013-08-16 12:21:51 PM  
FTA: "Get your head out of your iPhone," Metro Transit Police Chief Ron Pavlik said Thursday during a news conference to talk about the increase in grab-and-run crime.

To quote Red in "Shawshank Redemption": That's goddamn right.

Seriously, if I had a dollar for every time I saw someone blather on their cellphone and ignoring their surroundings, I'd be Bill motherfarking Gates by now.
 
2013-08-16 12:24:48 PM  

bunner: Remember guys.  You have to be the baddest motherf*ker in the room.  Let people know you're a success.

Ladies?  Somebody is trying to tell YOU that YOU should do something?  That's oppressive!  You're being insulted by misogynists!  Get your b*tch on and straighten them out, gurrrl!

And always remember, trust the police and do whatever criminals say for your own safety!

Oh, and make sure all of your transactions are safely recorded by only using debit and credit cards.  For freedom.  This may be the first time in history that the sheep actually not only drive themselves and the butcher to the slaughterhouse, but pay for the gas and tolls.


farm6.staticflickr.com
 
2013-08-16 12:26:21 PM  

Rwa2play: FTA: "Get your head out of your iPhone," Metro Transit Police Chief Ron Pavlik said Thursday during a news conference to talk about the increase in grab-and-run crime.

To quote Red in "Shawshank Redemption": That's goddamn right.

Seriously, if I had a dollar for every time I saw someone blather on their cellphone and ignoring their surroundings, I'd be Bill motherfarking Gates by now.


Are people still walking into fountains?  I hope so because that shiat is funny.
 
2013-08-16 12:26:22 PM  

Rwa2play: Seriously, if I had a dollar for every time I saw someone blather on their cellphone and ignoring their surroundings, I'd be Bill motherfarking Gates by now.


That's because, even after all the '80s consumer whore, you are what you own malarkey got kicked to the curb, deservedly, people still think that those who observe them doing their little "ekkyoo me, I'm on my PHONE" fandango are just impressed pissless with how interesting their lives must be.
 
2013-08-16 12:26:53 PM  

devildog123: Hey!  We don't blame the victim in this country.  If you want to wander around with a big wad of cash, or a fancy cell phone in your hand, through crowded, criminal infested metro stations, you should be able to, and no one should be allowed to judge you.  It is no one's fault but the criminal's.


And women who wear skimpy mini-skirts and get drunk at frat parties?

/Yes, I detect your sarcasm.  :-)
 
2013-08-16 12:27:24 PM  
Inchoate:

img.fark.net
You have no idea how quickly.
 
2013-08-16 12:30:18 PM  
Washington DC Dumbasses reply to the Chief of Police:

Our shoes cost more than that. Do you expect us to go barefoot?.

If you're looking for my Bruno Maglis, you'll find them lodging between your buttocks, Chief.
 
2013-08-16 12:31:29 PM  
This is why phones should have a remote Taser function.
 
2013-08-16 12:32:44 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: zedster: Dear METRO TRANSIT POLICE CHIEF,


You have 420 Police Officers at your disposal, use them.. YOUR ONLY JOB IS THE METRO. I mean DC has freaking LIBRARY POLICE, and Park Police, and City and Feds, your only job is the metro. If this a problem deal with it, increase police presence, have undercovers on the trains. It sounds like it's primarily the Red and Green/Yellow lines so crack down on those.

signed,
DC resident

Preeeeeeetty much this.

Don't blame the victims, Mr. Assclown Police Chief. Blame your inept staff.


I hope you're being sarcastic.
 
2013-08-16 12:34:14 PM  
They should have a function that sets them on fire remotely.  I mean, it's not like the phones are the cash cow, the airtime, apps and crap that it does is the cash cow.  G4 phones should be 10.99 and come with a keychain trigger for the "Steal this, f*ckwad" pyro app.
 
2013-08-16 12:37:43 PM  
Do these farkers on here whining about how they shouldn't have to worry about holding their phone in their hand whilst wearing earplugs on a crowded train with people of a lower socio-economic background in proximity also lock their doors at night or when they leave?  Because they shouldn't then.

I can't believe the lack of common sense in the Me-Generation.
 
2013-08-16 12:39:43 PM  

Enemabag Jones: Pockafrusta
Easy to set up a sting.
Fast movers with tazers and radios. No mercy. Done.
/Taz them bro!

Seconded. And unlike those bogus wallet shakedowns, or questionable police bait car scams, people would love police doing this type of morality test.


I would. Why wouldn't you?
 
2013-08-16 12:41:25 PM  
So glad I don't have to work downtown with protection like that.
 
2013-08-16 12:42:25 PM  

shaddix: Your Average Witty Fark User: zedster: Dear METRO TRANSIT POLICE CHIEF,


You have 420 Police Officers at your disposal, use them.. YOUR ONLY JOB IS THE METRO. I mean DC has freaking LIBRARY POLICE, and Park Police, and City and Feds, your only job is the metro. If this a problem deal with it, increase police presence, have undercovers on the trains. It sounds like it's primarily the Red and Green/Yellow lines so crack down on those.

signed,
DC resident

Preeeeeeetty much this.

Don't blame the victims, Mr. Assclown Police Chief. Blame your inept staff.

I hope you're being sarcastic.


Why would that be sarcasm.  Metro's police is a joke, they let one of their own embezzle enough money that it's still uncounted but at least $450,000, have stopped even posting a token presence to enforce what should be revenue generating violations (eating/drinking, music, spitting) and their only response to rising larceny within their very small jurisdictions is don't farking entertain yourself with the smartphone you likely pruchased for commuting, when a cop in each station would make the problem trivial to enforce (most stations have a very small number of exits and all have British levels of CCTVs).
 
2013-08-16 12:43:56 PM  
jst3p
I would. Why wouldn't you?


I am busy...reread why I said, or find another mark.
 
2013-08-16 12:45:44 PM  

Enemabag Jones: jst3p
I would. Why wouldn't you?

I am busy...reread why I said, or find another mark.


Sorry, though it was sarcasm. Why do you have a problem with the bait cars though?
 
2013-08-16 12:46:27 PM  

Beeblebrox: Rwa2play: FTA: "Get your head out of your iPhone," Metro Transit Police Chief Ron Pavlik said Thursday during a news conference to talk about the increase in grab-and-run crime.

To quote Red in "Shawshank Redemption": That's goddamn right.

Seriously, if I had a dollar for every time I saw someone blather on their cellphone and ignoring their surroundings, I'd be Bill motherfarking Gates by now.

Are people still walking into fountains?  I hope so because that shiat is funny.


Well, maybe not fountains.  Them tripping over stuff that they would've seen from a block away were they not focused on who they were talking too still makes me either chuckle or roll my eyes in "WTF?!"

bunner: That's because, even after all the '80s consumer whore, you are what you own malarkey got kicked to the curb, deservedly, people still think that those who observe them doing their little "ekkyoo me, I'm on my PHONE" fandango are just impressed pissless with how interesting their lives must be.


The people who cross the street, while the light's against them and as a car is turning the corner in their direction still gets me.  Surprised more people don't get run over in that fashion.
 
2013-08-16 12:46:52 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: You wouldn't go out at night dressed in sexually flattering clothing, would you ladies?


FTFA:"You wouldn't go around flaunting $400 in cash in your hand, and that's what you're doing with your phone," the chief said.

I was going to ask how is this different than blaming women for sexual assaults if they dress slutty?

Maybe DC cops should set up a sting.  Make a taser look like a iPhone.  Let a thief snatch it then ZAP.
 
2013-08-16 12:47:55 PM  

vento: My work international phone (iPhone 4S) was pickpocketed on the subway in Brussels.  I used my own phone to e-mail our IS guy to tell him what happened.  Within 15 minutes the stolen phone was shut off.  There's no way they got through the layers of security on that phone to do anythig useful with it before it was a brick.  And I know who did it.  They work in teams.  You would never suspect the guy who was standing behind me.  Older guy - in his 60s, well-dressed.  He was the only person that could have done it.

The point isn't to share a CSB, it's to let you know that you can't judge the book by the cover - take precautions and mitigate your risk.


European pickpockets are the worst.  But the absolute highlight of my vacation was when a guy realized a teenager had stolen his wallet and chased after him.  Another man on the sidewalk ahead recognized what was going on, excused himself from his conversation, and clothesline the punk as he ran by.  They two men spoke for a moment, then both beat the piss out of the pickpocket. Stripped him down to his underwear, threw his clothes away, and left him draped over a fence.  They then shook hands and went their separate ways.  I'm not really one for vigilante justice, but that was farking poetic.
 
2013-08-16 12:47:59 PM  

pdee: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: You wouldn't go out at night dressed in sexually flattering clothing, would you ladies?

FTFA:"You wouldn't go around flaunting $400 in cash in your hand, and that's what you're doing with your phone," the chief said.

I was going to ask how is this different than blaming women for sexual assaults if they dress slutty?

Maybe DC cops should set up a sting.  Make a taser look like a iPhone.  Let a thief snatch it then ZAP.


I would watch the shiat out of a "Bait Phone" show.
 
2013-08-16 12:48:11 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: Do these farkers on here whining about how they shouldn't have to worry about holding their phone in their hand whilst wearing earplugs on a crowded train with people of a lower socio-economic background in proximity also lock their doors at night or when they leave?  Because they shouldn't then.

I can't believe the lack of common sense in the Me-Generation.


So much farking this.
 
2013-08-16 12:48:56 PM  

Magorn: bongmiester: he's right

She, and no she's not.  They said that during the height of the Roman empire a woman could walk alone on the imperial roads  from Gaul to Rome with a sackful of gold coins in perfect safety.

It 2013 and I expect the same thing to be true of the capital city of the greatest nation on earth.   Especially one so festoon with cameras that they are even installing them on STOP SIGNS now.  Telling people that they should be afraid to have their phone in their hands while travelling essentially defeats the entire purpose of having a mobile phone, now doesn't it?


Sorry, the height of the US came and went in the 1940s. We're now locked into the death spiral stage, like Rome was when Roman citizens feared and hated their neighbors more than the Vandals and Visigoths, because people with conflicting opinions were known to be the greatest danger, as well as being much easier to stab and/or poison to death, while the Vandals had so little chance of ever being a threat that the Romans actually took pity on the poor dear savages.

/open the gates for them, their savagery is more pure and noble and honest than our corrupt civilization
//wait, why is Rome burning?
///not our fault, we helped them destroy our civilization for the greater good! THE GREATER GOOD!
 
2013-08-16 12:55:12 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Magorn: bongmiester: he's right

She, and no she's not.  They said that during the height of the Roman empire a woman could walk alone on the imperial roads  from Gaul to Rome with a sackful of gold coins in perfect safety.

It 2013 and I expect the same thing to be true of the capital city of the greatest nation on earth.   Especially one so festoon with cameras that they are even installing them on STOP SIGNS now.  Telling people that they should be afraid to have their phone in their hands while travelling essentially defeats the entire purpose of having a mobile phone, now doesn't it?

Sorry, the height of the US came and went in the 1940s. We're now locked into the death spiral stage, like Rome was when Roman citizens feared and hated their neighbors more than the Vandals and Visigoths, because people with conflicting opinions were known to be the greatest danger, as well as being much easier to stab and/or poison to death, while the Vandals had so little chance of ever being a threat that the Romans actually took pity on the poor dear savages.

/open the gates for them, their savagery is more pure and noble and honest than our corrupt civilization
//wait, why is Rome burning?
///not our fault, we helped them destroy our civilization for the greater good! THE GREATER GOOD!


Meh, it's not so bad. Empires don't really get sacked anymore, so we'll probably just slowly deflate like the British Empire, and since our expansion stopped at the west coast we don't really have far-flung colonies that can rebel.
 
2013-08-16 12:59:30 PM  
jst3p
Enemabag Jones: jst3p
I would. Why wouldn't you?
I am busy...reread why I said, or find another mark.
Sorry, though it was sarcasm. Why do you have a problem with the bait cars though?


Would happily explain but don't have time, have an appt. Until next time.
 
2013-08-16 01:03:28 PM  

Beeblebrox: pdee: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: You wouldn't go out at night dressed in sexually flattering clothing, would you ladies?

FTFA:"You wouldn't go around flaunting $400 in cash in your hand, and that's what you're doing with your phone," the chief said.

I was going to ask how is this different than blaming women for sexual assaults if they dress slutty?

Maybe DC cops should set up a sting.  Make a taser look like a iPhone.  Let a thief snatch it then ZAP.

I would watch the shiat out of a "Bait Phone" show.


Came here to say this.  I LOVE the Bait Car show.  But there needs to be video of some kind, because the recipe for a successful baiting system is guaranteed arrest + public humiliation.
 
2013-08-16 01:06:36 PM  
Maybe try cleaning up your shiathole of a city?

Even in the "touristy" areas of DC there's large congregations of people loitering around on the street and on corners.
 
2013-08-16 01:10:29 PM  

Tatterdemalian: , the height of the US came and went in the 1940s.


Not sure if your're serious or just racist enough to think the American Apartheid area was "the height of the US".
 
2013-08-16 01:10:45 PM  

Beeblebrox: DROxINxTHExWIND: bunner: evaned: "don't flaunt your expensive things",

So, only use your mobile phone in the privacy of your own home?


I would, if I could get reception.


/Mutherfark YOU Sprint.

This was me with Verizon two years ago. Then, boom, after being gone for a weekend, got home and had full bars.  As much as Verizon sucks (and they do), they did okay this one time.  Hopefully you'll get your coverage upgraded.


I finally got annoyed at Sprint enough earlier this year to make the switch to Verizon.  Got a nice new flip phone with the same number after porting it over.  And so far, much better service at a good price.  Made the switch after the contract expired, and I paid the final Sprint  invoice, in full. But then they started billing me for 80 cents.  (That's $0.80 US, or about $0.81 Canadian.)

I ignored the emails at first, but the wankers kept sending them so I finally contacted them. The 2nd level supervisor I eventually reached revealed (in a chat session) that the charge was for 69 cents, and 11 cents in tax. And agreed that the charge had been made after I was gone as a customer.  But then asked me for a credit card number to which they could charge the 80 cents. WTF?

I declined, then ask how much is Sprint willing to spend on an invalid charge, on an expired account?  I waited with bated breath until the call was escalated further, and the eventual reply was "Ok,  Never mind.  Sorry."
 
2013-08-16 01:12:20 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: Do these farkers on here whining about how they shouldn't have to worry about holding their phone in their hand whilst wearing earplugs on a crowded train with people of a lower socio-economic background in proximity also lock their doors at night or when they leave? Because they shouldn't then.


False equivalency.
 
2013-08-16 01:49:52 PM  

bunner: They should have a function that sets them on fire remotely.  I mean, it's not like the phones are the cash cow, the airtime, apps and crap that it does is the cash cow.  G4 phones should be 10.99 and come with a keychain trigger for the "Steal this, f*ckwad" pyro app.


A metal case with a tazer function would be fairly simple... Just drain the battery into the tazer when you hit the button.
 
2013-08-16 01:53:52 PM  

mike_d85: bunner: They should have a function that sets them on fire remotely.  I mean, it's not like the phones are the cash cow, the airtime, apps and crap that it does is the cash cow.  G4 phones should be 10.99 and come with a keychain trigger for the "Steal this, f*ckwad" pyro app.

A metal case with a tazer function would be fairly simple... Just drain the battery into the tazer when you hit the button.


Hey, filthy rich defense contractors who make thermite have to eat, too.   :  )
 
2013-08-16 01:57:14 PM  

Inchoate: The Googles Do Nothing: Do these farkers on here whining about how they shouldn't have to worry about holding their phone in their hand whilst wearing earplugs on a crowded train with people of a lower socio-economic background in proximity also lock their doors at night or when they leave? Because they shouldn't then.

False equivalency.


So, how can we prevent a crime before it happens?
 
2013-08-16 02:00:25 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: So, how can we prevent a crime before it happens?


There is only one way to prevent crime.  One.  Make people at large NOT WANT TO DO THAT SH*T.  "Hey, crime creates poverty.  Crime hurts people.  Crime devalues your life."  You don't actually hear much of that littered amongst the daily scoreboard of who f*cked who out of what, how much they got away with and what their attorney costs an hour.
 
2013-08-16 02:00:34 PM  

Magorn: bongmiester: he's right

She, and no she's not.  They said that during the height of the Roman empire a woman could walk alone on the imperial roads  from Gaul to Rome with a sackful of gold coins in perfect safety.

It 2013 and I expect the same thing to be true of the capital city of the greatest nation on earth.   Especially one so festoon with cameras that they are even installing them on STOP SIGNS now.  Telling people that they should be afraid to have their phone in their hands while travelling essentially defeats the entire purpose of having a mobile phone, now doesn't it?


That's interesting.  I wonder what the average Roman would think of traffic cameras and the like?
 
2013-08-16 02:06:01 PM  
And if social philanthropy doesn't work, how about we teach kids that going out and risking your freedom, physical well being and quite possibly your rectal virginity, every day, to get something you could earn washing dishes for 20 hours, and bonus, washing dishes provides steady, risk free income for food and shelter, might not be the best business plan?
 
2013-08-16 02:08:55 PM  
Our culture teaches that there is always a shortcut and a getover and if you can get away with it, you succeed.  Always a trick.  Always a workaround.  Be a SUCCESSFUL criminal, then cover your tracks.  So far, this has given us drug lords, street thugs with the IQ of a pork sandwich, politicians and corporate slash and burn artists and stockbrokers.  It's not a matter of kettle  is blacker, it's a matter of working off bad ideas which, oddly, seem to bring bad results.
 
2013-08-16 02:24:51 PM  

69gnarkill69: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: DROxINxTHExWIND: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: DROxINxTHExWIND: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: You wouldn't go out at night dressed in sexually flattering clothing, would you ladies?


I take it you've never been to a nightclub.

Not an "hip hop" night


That's a shame. Your mother can really twerk. You should show up one night to support her.


/Low hanging fruit

How's your dad, by the way? Oh, that's right....

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This.
 
2013-08-16 02:38:44 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: Inchoate: The Googles Do Nothing: Do these farkers on here whining about how they shouldn't have to worry about holding their phone in their hand whilst wearing earplugs on a crowded train with people of a lower socio-economic background in proximity also lock their doors at night or when they leave? Because they shouldn't then.

False equivalency.

So, how can we prevent a crime before it happens?


Most of us would be happy if Metro's cops caught the occasional phone jacker and put that on the news a few times a year.  "Pavlik could not say how often his officers have been able to catch thieves".

There are at least a half dozen cameras in every station, sprinters aren't all that common, most of the stations are underground (which means there are at best 3-4 exits and for most 1-2) or you can alert the next station down the line if they get on a train.  This should be like shooting fish in a barrel in terms of % caught.  Stings would also be quite easy to set up (give a female officer a new iphone/galaxy S4 and post 2 fast officers closer to the doors).  None of these appear to be the response, rather the chief of police is basically admitting defeat.
 
2013-08-16 02:43:33 PM  

Surpheon: Tatterdemalian: , the height of the US came and went in the 1940s.

Not sure if your're serious or just racist enough to think the American Apartheid area was "the height of the US".


For white men it pretty much was...
 
2013-08-16 02:50:19 PM  

nelsonal: Stings would also be quite easy to set up (give a female officer a new iphone/galaxy S4 and post 2 fast officers closer to the doors).


Stings would actually be pretty tough. It's not a big problem - the crime spree cited here is about 2 a day. Out of over 750,000 riders a day. But while stings are likely pointless (too rare a crime with to many real targets), the balance of your simple plan would work fine. Simple enough to commit a few dozen officers for a few 'emphasis days' to shut it down and make a statement, just a matter of allocating the capital and management to make it happen.
 
2013-08-16 02:57:07 PM  

Surpheon: nelsonal: Stings would also be quite easy to set up (give a female officer a new iphone/galaxy S4 and post 2 fast officers closer to the doors).

Stings would actually be pretty tough. It's not a big problem - the crime spree cited here is about 2 a day. Out of over 750,000 riders a day. But while stings are likely pointless (too rare a crime with to many real targets), the balance of your simple plan would work fine. Simple enough to commit a few dozen officers for a few 'emphasis days' to shut it down and make a statement, just a matter of allocating the capital and management to make it happen.


That's fine.  The stings were just for show (and possibly to get some good footage for the news reels).  They've done little but issue warnings for at least 6-8 months.
 
2013-08-16 03:07:21 PM  

Inchoate: The Googles Do Nothing: Do these farkers on here whining about how they shouldn't have to worry about holding their phone in their hand whilst wearing earplugs on a crowded train with people of a lower socio-economic background in proximity also lock their doors at night or when they leave? Because they shouldn't then.

False equivalency.


How so? Statement: I shouldn't have to worry about people stealing my crap, therefore I should take no measures to prevent it.

Seems like they are exactly the same to me.

I'm sorry we don't live in a utopia.
 
2013-08-16 03:11:10 PM  
Pickpockets rob people gathered to watch the public execution of a pickpocket.  Daguerreotype at 11.
 
2013-08-16 03:27:39 PM  
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2013-08-16 03:28:40 PM  

shaddix: How so? Statement: I shouldn't have to worry about people stealing my crap, therefore I should take no measures to prevent it.

Seems like they are exactly the same to me.

I'm sorry we don't live in a utopia.


Where shall we begin?

First let's go with the actions. Locking one's doors is fairly standard practice that is a minimal inconvenience as far as cost/benefit. Refraining from ever using one's smartphone in public, never using headphones with a device designed to play music/sound, or otherwise being so paranoid about theft that it significantly impedes normal/practical/entertaining use with that device? That is not standard, and it involves inconvenience that may be great, depending on the circumstances. Not equivalent~

The second mistake, of course, is to assume that people who think victim-blaming is shiatty also think that preventative measures are bad or useless.
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The time for recommending crime protection/prevention is at the very end of an article or a press conference like this, or in its own little feature article. To come right out of the gate with "welp, victims shouldn't have been so stupid" sends a message that it's most important for potential victims to not be victims, rather than for criminals to not commit crimes or for law enforcement to do its goddamn job. It's lazy, just-worldy, insulting, and not very helpful.
 
2013-08-16 05:16:06 PM  
This is the same city where city council members didn't want a Wal Mart to open because Wal Mart would just be inviting theft and shoplifting and we can't have that.
 
2013-08-16 05:16:10 PM  

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If only the 1% has mobile phones, somebody owes me four Maybachs and a few billion dollars.
 
2013-08-16 05:17:20 PM  

jigger: This is the same city where city council members didn't want a Wal Mart to open because Wal Mart would just be inviting theft and shoplifting and we can't have that.


Well, not from multi-billion dollar firms, no.  Mother of moose, lad, we have standards.
 
2013-08-16 05:20:50 PM  

bunner: Citizen - "A cop beat me up for no reason."

Cop - "Yeah, try not to piss of the cops."

Citizen - "Somebody stole my phone from my hand."

Cops - "Yeah, try not to tempt thieves."

Your broke ass, piss poor excuse for law enforcement.

Let me show it to you.

I'm gonna put forth a little hypothesis, here.

The only people cops respect are other cops and criminals.  You?  You're a pain in the ass.  Figure out your own problems.


And you'd better pay those taxes, biatch.
 
2013-08-16 11:02:22 PM  
The robber in the first video had an accomplice.  Link.  I didn't catch it the first time, but the robber's buddy sprints out of the subway and trips the victim/pursuer.

It should be possible/easy to identify these two men and arrest them.
 
2013-08-17 12:28:15 AM  

Rwa2play: The Googles Do Nothing: Do these farkers on here whining about how they shouldn't have to worry about holding their phone in their hand whilst wearing earplugs on a crowded train with people of a lower socio-economic background in proximity also lock their doors at night or when they leave?  Because they shouldn't then.

I can't believe the lack of common sense in the Me-Generation.

So much farking this.


Took the bus for 8 months 5 hours round trip and for 1/2 of my daily bus ride, I rode with many hood rats, thugs, under-employed, sketchy folks.  I tucked my phone into my purse and didn't mess with it while on the city bus so that none of the above mentioned could see it or covet it.  Not that hard.
 
2013-08-17 03:03:10 AM  
Couldn't phone thefts be completely eliminated if they made it illegal for service providers to activate plans on stolen phones?
 
2013-08-17 02:27:15 PM  
This is how the indigenous populous shops.
 
2013-08-17 05:51:00 PM  
If only one of these kids would steal my wifes ipad, I would be thrilled to tears. She can't even make a 5 minute drive to the convenience store without carrying it along to listen to her podcasts.
And those trips to the beach that I used to look forward to because of the 6 - 8 hour drive gave us a chance to reconnect and talk about what was happening in our lives, while we listened to good music in the background? Gone, replaced by me trying to stay awake during the drive while she listens to the latest bravo recap podcast and plays crazy diamonds or whatever her new game of choice is.
Seriously, we used to watch a tv show, then we talked about it for a few minutes, and that led to other conversations about different things. Now replaced by the iPad being grabbed so that she can listen to other people spend an hour and a half talking about a thirty minute tv show.
The temptation to throw that thing as far as I can strikes me often. I can only hope that one day while she's grocery shopping with it sitting in the cart, one of these kids comes along and solves that problem for me.
 
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