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(Las Vegas Review Journal)   Use chalk for hopscotch? That's fine. Use chalk for a protest message? That's a jailin'   (reviewjournal.com ) divider line 50
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2013-08-16 01:42:24 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-16 03:48:58 AM  
That's why I always use scotch for my chalking. Half-way through the bottle, and who cares where the chalk is..
 
2013-08-16 05:27:21 AM  
Amendment FTL.
 
2013-08-16 07:47:39 AM  
District Attorney Steve Wolfson is taking the case seriously.  "This is not a kid drawing with a piece of chalk on the sidewalk "

With a DA like that, who needs criminals?
 
2013-08-16 07:49:58 AM  
By employing the power washing crew at a cost of more than $250, the graffiti charge was elevated from a misdemeanor to a gross misdemeanor, which could mean a stiffer sentence if they are convicted

It looks like killing innocent civilians isn't enough for these cops.  They need to be complete assholes as well.
 
2013-08-16 07:57:04 AM  
what if you are protesting hopscotch?
 
2013-08-16 12:10:16 PM  
Was this chalk extracted using fracking methods?
 
2013-08-16 12:13:30 PM  
What the hell, America?  You used to be cool.
 
2013-08-16 12:16:34 PM  
OK, now that I've RTFA...

The reports did not include the cost of the coffee used to clean one of the statements. It's unclear whether it was a small, medium or large coffee.

What's this reporter's Fark login?

Lawyer Robert Langford called the case preposterous and is representing the defendants pro bono.

Wow, a decent lawyer.  I thought those were a myth.  Good on this guy.
 
2013-08-16 12:17:44 PM  
This case will likely shake out exactly the same as the guy in San Diego who was arrested for pretty much exactly the same thing. And that guy got off even after the head douche judge told him he couldn't use the 1st amendment as part of his defense.
 
2013-08-16 12:17:44 PM  
Lots of brave souls testing the police every day.  *hats off*
 
2013-08-16 12:18:57 PM  
They should be sentenced to one hour of pounding erasers after school!
 
2013-08-16 12:19:35 PM  
Yes, it's OK to carry half a dozen concealed weapons. But writing on the sidewalk in chalk is not in any amendment* so it's a crime.

*Even though it is.
 
2013-08-16 12:20:52 PM  
I read "protest message" as "prostate massage".

/I feel unclean.
 
2013-08-16 12:22:35 PM  
When you hire a bunch if cops, you have to expect they are going to arrest a bunch if people.

They have to justify their pensions somehow.
 
2013-08-16 12:25:38 PM  

tricycleracer: I read "protest message" as "prostate massage".

/I feel unclean.


Enama before play

Good god man that's anal play 101
 
2013-08-16 12:26:36 PM  
I can understand why no profanity on public streets/sidewalks. They should have kept on message, but this is more about revenge at this point I think. Like the guy who wrote about banks, it was the target not the method.

But really, F**K the police. Pretty much all of them.

/We're not gonna PROTEST!
 
2013-08-16 12:27:36 PM  
I thought this was the WIsconsin Case where one of the capital protestors was arrested and charged with vandalism for drawing a 1 ft Chalk Heart on the street outside the capitol building.    Sad to see this asshattery is multiplying
 
2013-08-16 12:28:10 PM  
This was the protesters plan all along. You think anybody would ever hear about 4 people outside a police station? Nope, never. How about 4 people facing jail time for chalk? Bingo, national story. I'm sure they did enough to piss off the cops (like write fark the police) and get a response out of them. No judge is going to send them to jail, maybe a fine but that's it.
 
2013-08-16 12:29:45 PM  
So would this be deemed and appropriate or inappropriate use of chalk on the sidewalk?

t3.gstatic.com
 
2013-08-16 12:29:51 PM  
Power-qashin
 
2013-08-16 12:30:40 PM  
FTA: The reports did not include the cost of the coffee used to clean one of the statements. It's unclear whether it was a small, medium or large coffee.

Beautiful. You don't often see that kind of quality smartassness in modern journalism.
 
2013-08-16 12:31:11 PM  
Okay, so... make your protest message in the form of a hopscotch block.
 
2013-08-16 12:31:34 PM  
Power-washing crew? You mean "guy with a watering can?"

I once used sidewalk chalk to write a poem on the subway stairs. A few days later, they painted over it.
 
2013-08-16 12:32:15 PM  
 
2013-08-16 12:34:27 PM  
ROMANES EUNT DOMUS

gaskella.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-08-16 12:35:05 PM  

Ray_Finkle: This was the protesters plan all along. You think anybody would ever hear about 4 people outside a police station? Nope, never. How about 4 people facing jail time for chalk? Bingo, national story. I'm sure they did enough to piss off the cops (like write fark the police) and get a response out of them. No judge is going to send them to jail, maybe a fine but that's it.



Yes, Dr. Holmes, you have somehow uncovered their genius plot to force the local DA to waste his time obsessing over pressing ridiculous charges against them for chalk drawings on a sidewalk.

Now, off with you. Professor Moriarty is out there scheming somewhere to get himself arrested for watering a plant and we can't stop him without your help.
 
2013-08-16 12:36:14 PM  
There are typically profanity and decency laws/ordinances on the books, I'm OK with this (not OK with jail time for it though). The statement about the shootings should be protected/allowed.
 
2013-08-16 12:36:29 PM  

farm machine: So would this be deemed and appropriate or inappropriate use of chalk on the sidewalk?

[t3.gstatic.com image 275x183]


Well chalk outlines have never been standard practice for police investigations, it's hard to say.
 
2013-08-16 12:37:53 PM  
Suspending a driver's license for a graffiti violation? That's some fine money grabbing there, Lou
 
2013-08-16 12:38:08 PM  
That's it, time to crack down on chalk registration.
 
2013-08-16 12:38:30 PM  
I think they would have been okay without the "Fark the police" one.  Once you use the profanity, I'm afraid your freedom of speech kinda leaves the agument (and your credibility right along with it.)
 
2013-08-16 12:43:34 PM  

TheIndependent: There are typically profanity and decency laws/ordinances on the books, I'm OK with this (not OK with jail time for it though). The statement about the shootings should be protected/allowed.


So you're not as progessive as the 1971 supreme court?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohen_v._California
 
2013-08-16 12:48:16 PM  
Classes begin in a few weeks, which means many nefarious criminals will be at work costing college-town taxpayers tens of thousands of dollars.

Wanted for questioning by the Ithaca, New York Police Department:

farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2013-08-16 12:48:30 PM  
So our Bill of Rights is now a Bill of Particulars?
 
2013-08-16 12:49:34 PM  

durbnpoisn: I think they would have been okay without the "Fark the police" one.  Once you use the profanity, I'm afraid your freedom of speech kinda leaves the agument (and your credibility right along with it.)


I have to disagree - their credibility might be shot but the whole point of freedom of speech is to protect unpopular speech.

The police might have a case for the message inciting people to violence or felony coffee dumping though.
 
2013-08-16 12:52:46 PM  

give me doughnuts: FTA: The reports did not include the cost of the coffee used to clean one of the statements. It's unclear whether it was a small, medium or large coffee.

Beautiful. You don't often see that kind of quality smartassness in modern journalism.


Yep. That had me laughing. Winner, the author is.
 
2013-08-16 12:53:16 PM  

durbnpoisn: Once you use the profanity, I'm afraid your freedom of speech kinda leaves the agument (and your credibility right along with it.)


Profanity is protected public speech.
Obscenity is not.
 
2013-08-16 01:11:11 PM  
www.larryvilleh3.org
We shall not be stopped.
 
2013-08-16 01:12:37 PM  

give me doughnuts: Beautiful. You don't often see that kind of quality smartassness in modern journalism.


This article was a greenlit fark thread a few years back and it contained some pretty awesome journalistic creativity of the smartassedness type as well.
 
2013-08-16 01:16:20 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: durbnpoisn: Once you use the profanity, I'm afraid your freedom of speech kinda leaves the agument (and your credibility right along with it.)

Profanity is protected public speech.
Obscenity is not.


Meaning you can write 'Fark the Police' in chalk. But you cannot make a chalk drawing of it actually happening.

\with a burning giraffe in the background
 
2013-08-16 01:21:16 PM  
You hippies need to relax. Americans' freedom of speech is still fully, 100% intact. SCOTUS simply redefined "speech" to mean money. You can spend as much money as you want to get your message across. Maybe you should try buying some politicians or making a few television ads if you really want people to hear what you have to say. At the very least, try writing your message on $100 bills instead of sidewalks.
 
2013-08-16 02:17:59 PM  
OK, I can see the complaint about the "vulgarity", but a power washer being needed to remove the chalk? You mean the same chalk that, according to the same police, was washed away by a spilled cup of coffee?

I really hope someone mentions this and the judge just throws the whole thing out.
 
2013-08-16 02:47:55 PM  
I'm mostly offended that it cost $250 to wash off a bit of chalk. Does the power washer only use Perrier?
 
2013-08-16 03:06:37 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: This case will likely shake out exactly the same as the guy in San Diego who was arrested for pretty much exactly the same thing. And that guy got off even after the head douche judge told him he couldn't use the 1st amendment as part of his defense.


That guys was protesting the banks who the judge may have a problem with because his mcmansion lost 40% of its value.  These people are protesting the system the judge presides over that protects murderers and civil rights violators.

Las Vegas has a terribly bad system cop to court anyway.  People who have never been there know about certain judges and cops.
 
2013-08-16 03:15:20 PM  

Bondith: OK, now that I've RTFA...

The reports did not include the cost of the coffee used to clean one of the statements. It's unclear whether it was a small, medium or large coffee.

What's this reporter's Fark login?

Lawyer Robert Langford called the case preposterous and is representing the defendants pro bono.

Wow, a decent lawyer.  I thought those were a myth.  Good on this guy.


Maybe they can all request a jury trial and then go after the DA for malicious prosecution. Of course then they better leave the city or they'll be pulled over any time they are on the road and probably be one of the unarmed/innocent people shot.
 
2013-08-16 03:46:04 PM  
They should've left the profanities out of it.

By including it in their "protests", it pushes me into the category of "it's not my taxpayer dollars being wasted, I don't really care".
 
2013-08-16 04:09:07 PM  
FTFA:
""Under that standard, any kid that does hopscotch patterns on the sidewalk can be guilty of the same crime," Langford said. "

Well, no. At least part of the problem is that they were writing profanity, so there are different city ordinances that apply to that. I doubt they will serve a full year in jail so let's not get our panties in a bunch just yet. That's just the maximum time allowed by law.

These "protesters" are dumb. There is a pretty clear line between "exercising free speech" and "being a douche" and these clowns are the latter. I don't have a lot of sympathy for them. There were much better ways they could have expressed their feelings in chalk.
 
2013-08-16 09:25:32 PM  

BATMANATEE: I'm mostly offended that it cost $250 to wash off a bit of chalk. Does the power washer only use Perrier?


Printer ink.
 
2013-08-16 10:54:53 PM  
 There is no need to use a power washer or anything fancy..I mere bucket of water should take care of it.
Or they could wait until it rains. Implying that it would cost ANYTHING at all to remove it is utterly idiotic
when rain will wash it away if it's outside. If it's inside on a floor, it would take all the power of a small broom.
good lord..Cost analysis of everything using cop math is just absurd. Go wake up the janitor and get a broom.
Good lord..

 The whole idea of charging someone for chalk is so absurd to me...

/Sidewalk talk can get carried away..
 
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