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(CNN)   U.S. runner wins silver medal in Moscow track and field championship, immediately breaks Russian law   (cnn.com) divider line 9
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2013-08-16 02:39:59 AM
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2013-08-16 02:51:58 AM
2 votes:
It's absolutely amazing to me how gay rights have been absorbed and championed by the USA in a stunningly short period of time. Sure, the gay rights movement has been around for decades but wow, now look at it, it's now the patriotic thing to do and those dirty Ruskies can crawl back into their godforsaken hovels and sleep with their sheep or whatever they do.
2013-08-16 10:05:36 AM
1 votes:

The Muthaship: mikaloyd: Did anyone hear who won the gold?

Yep.

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So basically nobody is covering the sports, instead they are covering the loudest athletes stances on homosexuality? What a fun circus!
2013-08-16 08:40:20 AM
1 votes:
I'm just glad we can, as a country, look down on Russia for the way they treat gays, while simultaneously not even treating homosexuals as full citizens in, oh, about 3/4 of America. Yeah, we don't have laws against talking about being gay...we're so progressive! But full civil rights? You can not haz homosexuals.

Nothing screams USA Ike throwing stones in our glass house.
2013-08-16 06:23:19 AM
1 votes:
Russia clearly gives a huge sh*t what America and Americans think.
2013-08-16 04:57:29 AM
1 votes:

Confabulat: I sound fat: this is not persecuting as much as not allowing people to talk about gay rights matters around children.

But he was giving an interview to the media. Which will be shown on TV. Which will be watched by children.

The whole "children" thing is just a silly ruse to get rid of gays, but surely you know that. No one is that clueless.


I was going to say something similar, while pointing out that even if it wasn't, not being allowed to talk about being gay isn't different from persecution, it IS persecution, even if limited to the presence of children.  Moreover, I'd also point out that the law encompasses any support for gay rights or attempt to equate gay and heterosexual couples, not just discussions around children.

timujin: Jsin82: bubbaprog: Yeah, he didn't break the law, and not only that he openly said he wouldn't break the law (i.e. he wouldn't actually speak out against the anti-gay laws) for fear of being arrested for breaking it. That's not heroic.

Reading comprehension fail or DRTFA? He specifically said it WASN'T for fear of being arrested.

"I say this not out of fear of prosecution by the Russian government, but out of respect for the fact that I will be a guest in the host nation. Just as I would not accept a dinner invite to a friend's house and then lecture them on how to raise their kids, neither will I lecture the Russian government on how to govern their people "

There was also this tidbit, which does seem to indicate that fear of arrest is, at least partially, a factor:
"Whether you're gay, straight, black, white, we all deserve the same rights. If there's anything I can do to champion the cause and further it, I will, shy of getting arrested."

Not that I blame him, I wouldn't want to go to Russian jail.  I do have to wonder, though, if Russia would have the balls to send an American to jail if he or she stood on the podium and said, "I support gay rights and I think what the Russian government is doing is wrong."  Or, maybe, just stood there with their fist up in a salute of defiance while wearing pink (instead of, say, black) gloves.


You know they would. Russia is gaining huge political capital/street cred for standing up the US on various issues.  The cherry on top, of course, is the law only jails foreigners for 15 days, so Russia can get the street cred for enforcing its new toy law, while avoiding the possibility of any drawn out diplomatic conflict because the foreigner will be sent home and no one is really going to push things too far over 2 weeks when they know 100% that a (relatively) happy ending will occur anyway.
2013-08-15 11:51:49 PM
1 votes:
way to shift the spotlight off the fact you didn't win dude.
2013-08-15 11:47:43 PM
1 votes:
"Whether you're gay, straight, black, white, we all deserve the same rights. If there's anything I can do to champion the cause and further it, I will, shy of getting arrested."

Yeah, he didn't break the law, and not only that he openly said he wouldn't break the law (i.e. he wouldn't actually speak out against the anti-gay laws) for fear of being arrested for breaking it. That's not heroic.
2013-08-15 11:18:06 PM
1 votes:
It's a little disturbing that not many other nations seem turned off by Russia's anti-gay stance.
 
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