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(Opposing Views)   On today's episode of Wait, What?: Cop sues 911 caller for not warning him of impending danger. Even if he's right, you'd think him killing her son-in-law would've made them sorta even   (opposingviews.com) divider line 60
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2013-08-15 05:53:53 PM
It looks more and more every day like we're going to need a "Texas" tag.
 
2013-08-15 06:07:33 PM
Something similar to that happened here in California in the county I live in

/the suit was withdrawn after it got publicity and the deputies filing the suit were roundly condemned for being the disingenuous douchebags they were
//you knew the job was dangerous when you took it
///STFU and GBTW
 
2013-08-15 06:10:12 PM
Um... she did warn him of danger.  She called the police and said, "Hey, dude's acting weird."  Just because you don't take that as a warning, Deputy Dumbass, doesn't make it the woman's fault.  It's not like she called 911 and asked them to send someone out for her to have tea with.
 
2013-08-15 06:22:46 PM
Service revolver?
 
2013-08-15 06:22:47 PM
911 call saying dude was acting strange and aggressive.

Dude acts strange and aggressive.

Cop sues.

Cop receives ridicule he deserves?
 
2013-08-15 06:23:00 PM
SEND MORE PARAMEDICS

SEND MORE COPS
 
2013-08-15 06:23:47 PM

Fish in a Barrel: Service revolver?


That's what it is called. Usually a .357
 
2013-08-15 06:23:55 PM

timujin: Um... she did warn him of danger.  She called the police and said, "Hey, dude's acting weird."  Just because you don't take that as a warning, Deputy Dumbass, doesn't make it the woman's fault.  It's not like she called 911 and asked them to send someone out for her to have tea with.


The state should sue him for being a colossal dumbass
 
2013-08-15 06:25:04 PM
What the fark am I reading?
 
2013-08-15 06:27:50 PM

mediablitz: Fish in a Barrel: Service revolver?

That's what it is called. Usually a .357


When is the last time you saw a cop toting a revolver?
 
2013-08-15 06:29:29 PM

Fish in a Barrel: Service revolver?


I'm not quite sure how someone intelligent enough to operate the internets could possibly be confused by those two words.
 
2013-08-15 06:29:46 PM
Didn't she say he was acting irrationally and aggressively?  Isn't that a warning of impending danger?
 
2013-08-15 06:29:51 PM
"Look, police officers know everyday, everywhere they go, they could be in a dangerous situation," says defense attorney Brian Wice. "So this guy is going to try step out and collect money for taking that risk."

Yup. However, in most cases, it is called a "paycheck"
 
2013-08-15 06:31:30 PM

Fish in a Barrel: mediablitz: Fish in a Barrel: Service revolver?

That's what it is called. Usually a .357

When is the last time you saw a cop toting a revolver?


There's a number of them in Maryland. Stops a group of them from shooting some random schlub 150 times.

/they only shoot him 60 times
 
2013-08-15 06:35:00 PM
Is there a legal reason for him to do this?   Like, does suing her first help him in case someone tries to sue him for a wrongful death of the crazy dude he shot?
 
2013-08-15 06:35:01 PM

The Madd Mann: Fish in a Barrel: mediablitz: Fish in a Barrel: Service revolver?

That's what it is called. Usually a .357

When is the last time you saw a cop toting a revolver?

There's a number of them in Maryland. Stops a group of them from shooting some random schlub 150 times.

/they only shoot him 60 times


Fair enough.  Most of the time I've heard/seen the phrase, it's been misapplied.  Some people like to call any service weapon a "revolver."  I don't actually know if that's the case here, so I guess I should give the author the benefit of the doubt.
 
2013-08-15 06:35:02 PM
Probably trying to get her homeowners to pay out for being injured on her property. Going to be difficult when workman's comp and other job related benefits will cover the policeman's injuries and treatments, but maybe not impossible.
 
2013-08-15 06:36:41 PM
"It is unclear whether someone can actually be formally accused of not warning another person of danger."
Reminds me of this gem from a workplace safety video.

http://i.imgur.com/tc8PyEc.gif

Safe for work.
 
2013-08-15 06:39:55 PM
He wasn't expecting danger?   HE WASN'T EXPECTING DANGER??? For fark's sake! People generally don't call 911 asking for help if there isn't some sort of danger.  If everyone involved is rational and calm, they wouldn't call 911.  Next we'll have a fireman suing someone because he didn't realize he was going to have to get close to actual fire.  He thought he was just going to drive around blasting the siren.
 
2013-08-15 06:40:06 PM

ongbok: Didn't she say he was acting irrationally and aggressively?  Isn't that a warning of impending danger?


Yes. Yes it is. Additionally a person calling 911 may not be able to give all relevant information. No one thinks their best in a crisis, and they may not even be free to talk or act.

This lawsuit is farking stupid. If the caller had intentionally LIED about something and you could demonstrate that she had intentionally lied and her lies led to harm...I could see there being potential for a case and liability. Otherwise, fark right off. It's part of your farking job.

And don't like it, don't be a cop. I wouldn't be a cop for 10x what they get paid. No farking way.
 
2013-08-15 06:40:10 PM
The cop is probably pissed because he only got six months of paid vacation rehabilitation instead a whole year.
 
2013-08-15 06:41:02 PM
Those workplace safety videos are always a hoot.  I was made to watch one that spent several minutes on how wood is flammable.
 
2013-08-15 06:41:49 PM
Isn't this situation why we have workers' compensation laws and employer insurance?  Is the plaintiff's lawyer an insurer trying to recover a subrogated claim?
 
2013-08-15 06:46:33 PM
This frivolous lawsuit should be grounds for firing the deputy. It clearly shows deputy douche bag is not capable of fulfilling the obligations of the job.
 
2013-08-15 06:46:46 PM
FTFA: "I predict it will lose on summary judgment ..."

OK, probably true, but what does it cost you to defend against that suit? Win but lose $15K in the process.

I guess she won't call 911 again.
 
2013-08-15 06:47:45 PM
Hero!
 
2013-08-15 06:48:23 PM
Now when the family sues for wrongful death the dept will say "how could we have known he would act this way?  if you'd only warned us, we could have prepared properly and this whole tragedy could have been avoided.  next time you need to tell us what you know about the situation."
 
2013-08-15 06:48:26 PM

miniflea: Those workplace safety videos are always a hoot.  I was made to watch one that spent several minutes on how wood is flammable.


They have a subReddit dedicated to some of the better moments.  If you've got a minute and a fairly decent connection, it is a zen experience.

http://www.reddit.com/r/osha
 
2013-08-15 06:49:31 PM
Man, I would hate to be this guy when he gets back on the job. If his coworkers are anything like mine, he'll never live that down.
 
2013-08-15 06:54:58 PM

The Madd Mann: Fish in a Barrel: mediablitz: Fish in a Barrel: Service revolver?

That's what it is called. Usually a .357

When is the last time you saw a cop toting a revolver?

There's a number of them in Maryland. Stops a group of them from shooting some random schlub 150 times.

/they only shoot him 60 times


They can also be carried ready to fire without the hammer resting on a live round.  Though I'm not sure if cops do that or not.
 
2013-08-15 06:55:03 PM
I hate to piss in your posies but, um, all that ordnance you got strapped to your ass isn't just for getting people doing 45 in a 35 to piss their pants when you swagger up to their car.
 
2013-08-15 07:01:00 PM
According to this article, the woman called 911 saying the guy was on bath salts for several days and acting crazy. 911 sent EMS and it was the paramedics who called the Sheriff's Office after THEY felt threatened by the guy.

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Deputies-fat al ly-shoot-man-in-west-Harris-County-4155750.php

So, this cop went in there knowing what to expect, got his ass handed to him by an EDP, and now just wants to put the blame on someone else. I hope the suit gets dismissed and then he gets fired, because he clearly isn't qualified to judge when a situation is dangerous and when it isn't.

(and don't cops always justify their heavy-handed tactics by saying that they need to treat every situation like it is dangerous until they know it isn't?)
 
Al!
2013-08-15 07:01:30 PM

Fish in a Barrel: mediablitz: Fish in a Barrel: Service revolver?

That's what it is called. Usually a .357

When is the last time you saw a cop toting a revolver?


This morning in my hometown and again this afternoon in a neighboring town.  Our old Chief of Police (now county Sheriff,) carried a .44 revolver.  Why does that strike you as odd?  They're often more reliable and accurate over longer distances, they allow less abuse in that you have to reload after shooting at that old lady 6 times, and they're much easier to clean and repair.
 
2013-08-15 07:09:47 PM

NoSugarAdded: This frivolous lawsuit should be grounds for firing the deputy. It clearly shows deputy douche bag is not capable of fulfilling the obligations of the job.


I completely agree with you. And I live south of Houston, where this went down. Just driving around some parts of that area should qualify as hazardous duty....dude is a dumbass who wants to get paid.
 
2013-08-15 07:11:23 PM

Fish in a Barrel: When is the last time you saw a cop toting a revolver?


The last time I was in the Arapahoe Cty Sheriff's office. So, sometime last year.
 
2013-08-15 07:29:13 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Is there a legal reason for him to do this?   Like, does suing her first help him in case someone tries to sue him for a wrongful death of the crazy dude he shot?


It is very possible he is suing her before she could sue him.  He probably is worried she will get all lawsuity like other American families have done right after someone is shot by the cops in this lawyer filled country.

Noticeably F.A.T.: Fish in a Barrel: When is the last time you saw a cop toting a revolver?

The last time I was in the Arapahoe Cty Sheriff's office. So, sometime last year.


I think I have seen and officer or two still carrying revolvers as well.  In fact I think the MI State Troopers have been the only cops I have seen recently with semi automatic pistols.  I know the Troopers are the only ones you need to worry about pulling their guns.  Flint officers usually wait a while to give all the shooters a chance to go home before they show up.
 
2013-08-15 07:31:14 PM
I'd have paid the man a bonus (probably via alcohol and home cooking) for getting rid of a son-in-law like that, if he wasn't sch a douchebag; you know he terrorized her, her daughter, and any kids they had, so good riddance to bad news.

Then again, some families are completely batshiat crazy top to bottom, maybe she was threatening to sue the cop for not peacefully detaining him and talking some sense into the bath salted up guy.
 
2013-08-15 07:35:28 PM
Son-In-Law not son. In-law.

More like an associate than a family member, so no big loss to her.
 
2013-08-15 07:36:19 PM

PawisBetlog: timujin: Um... she did warn him of danger.  She called the police and said, "Hey, dude's acting weird."  Just because you don't take that as a warning, Deputy Dumbass, doesn't make it the woman's fault.  It's not like she called 911 and asked them to send someone out for her to have tea with.

The state should sue him for being a colossal dumbass


The city should sue him for misrepresenting himself on his resume and in the job interview as somebody qualified to be a cop.
 
2013-08-15 07:39:17 PM

jtown: He wasn't expecting danger?   HE WASN'T EXPECTING DANGER??? For fark's sake! People generally don't call 911 asking for help if there isn't some sort of danger.  If everyone involved is rational and calm, they wouldn't call 911.  Next we'll have a fireman suing someone because he didn't realize he was going to have to get close to actual fire.  He thought he was just going to drive around blasting the siren.


Well, I have to disagree with this. People call 911 for help because the burger-flipper at McDonalds put too much secret sauce on their triple-coronary-bypass special.
 
2013-08-15 07:42:13 PM
  Give the cop some slack, all his previous 911 calls were from drive thru customers getting their orders wrong.
 
2013-08-15 08:00:35 PM

Gyrfalcon: jtown: He wasn't expecting danger?   HE WASN'T EXPECTING DANGER??? For fark's sake! People generally don't call 911 asking for help if there isn't some sort of danger.  If everyone involved is rational and calm, they wouldn't call 911.  Next we'll have a fireman suing someone because he didn't realize he was going to have to get close to actual fire.  He thought he was just going to drive around blasting the siren.

Well, I have to disagree with this. People call 911 for help because the burger-flipper at McDonalds put too much secret sauce on their triple-coronary-bypass special.


If someone's irrational enough to call 911 because of that, the responding officer(s) should expect trouble because they've already shown that they are unstable.
 
2013-08-15 08:11:43 PM
I'm just suprised she wasn't beaten, arrested for resisting arrest, and then had her dog shot by the officer. She should be grateful.
 
2013-08-15 08:24:20 PM

Al!: Fish in a Barrel: mediablitz: Fish in a Barrel: Service revolver?

That's what it is called. Usually a .357

When is the last time you saw a cop toting a revolver?

This morning in my hometown and again this afternoon in a neighboring town.  Our old Chief of Police (now county Sheriff,) carried a .44 revolver.  Why does that strike you as odd?  They're often more reliable and accurate over longer distances, they allow less abuse in that you have to reload after shooting at that old lady 6 times, and they're much easier to clean and repair.


A .44 seems like overkill. Unless you actually want to shoot the little old lady and all the people/houses/schools behind her.
 
2013-08-15 08:29:08 PM

Gargoyle: I guess she won't call 911 again.

 
2013-08-15 09:07:03 PM

lack of warmth: TuteTibiImperes: Is there a legal reason for him to do this?   Like, does suing her first help him in case someone tries to sue him for a wrongful death of the crazy dude he shot?

It is very possible he is suing her before she could sue him.  He probably is worried she will get all lawsuity like other American families have done right after someone is shot by the cops in this lawyer filled country.

Noticeably F.A.T.: Fish in a Barrel: When is the last time you saw a cop toting a revolver?

The last time I was in the Arapahoe Cty Sheriff's office. So, sometime last year.

I think I have seen and officer or two still carrying revolvers as well.  In fact I think the MI State Troopers have been the only cops I have seen recently with semi automatic pistols.  I know the Troopers are the only ones you need to worry about pulling their guns.  Flint officers usually wait a while to give all the shooters a chance to go home before they show up.


MI State Troopers do carry a revolver. Hammerless .357, loaded w/ .38 +p, 5 shot. It is concealed, usually in pocket. That is beyond their P226 Sig, and 2 magazines on their belt. Total of 51 shots (one in the chamber on the Sig) - "50 for the bad guys, last one for yourself" if memory serves. This was as of about 10 years ago, FWIW.
 
2013-08-15 09:52:21 PM
Fish in a Barrel:When is the last time you saw a cop toting a revolver?

Today actually strange as it may seem.  Of course it was also the 70+ year old guy who confirms the VINs on people registering a car bought out of state so he may have a reason for not wanting more than 5-6 shots to haul around on his hip.

As to the story itself, as others have said this dufus needs to be fired.  He is an embarrassment to police everywhere.

Then too there is the argument that since the Supreme Court has ruled that the police have no mandate to protect 'you' only society in general, we the public should have no mandate to warn them that by responding to a 911 call about a psychotic person they might get hurt.
 
2013-08-15 09:54:06 PM

fusillade762: Al!: Fish in a Barrel: mediablitz: Fish in a Barrel: Service revolver?

That's what it is called. Usually a .357

When is the last time you saw a cop toting a revolver?

This morning in my hometown and again this afternoon in a neighboring town.  Our old Chief of Police (now county Sheriff,) carried a .44 revolver.  Why does that strike you as odd?  They're often more reliable and accurate over longer distances, they allow less abuse in that you have to reload after shooting at that old lady 6 times, and they're much easier to clean and repair.

A .44 seems like overkill. Unless you actually want to shoot the little old lady and all the people/houses/schools behind her.


Especially the schools.
 
2013-08-15 09:58:36 PM

poorjon: Gargoyle: I guess she won't call 911 again.


She doesn't need to. She succeeded in having the cops kill her son-in-law for her.
 
2013-08-15 10:03:48 PM
What a little farking biatch of a cop.
 
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