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2013-08-15 05:46:04 PM  
MizMezcalita has a quinoa recipe or two to post, but she's busy making me manicotti so you guys will just to wait.

/Off to the wine rack!
 
2013-08-15 05:46:20 PM  

p the boiler: Is this the post where I get to tell you I eat paleo and I am better than you.

/because I eat paleo
//and this makes me better than your unhealthy ass

\not 100% paleo (I love the occasional sushi or mexican night with tortilla chips)
\\so, I am not really that much better than you
\\\do consider it though, it helped me drop 60 lbs in about 4 months and I have been keeping it off


I didn't get fat in the first place, so I don't need to rely on a fad diet to lose a bunch of weight.
 
2013-08-15 05:47:12 PM  

Sneakytoes: I got hooked on Kasha, which is commercially available buckwheat groats, when I married into a Jewish family.  I make it with chicken broth and egg, and don't add the annoying bowtie pasta.


What's that movie with Jesse Eisenberg about a Brooklyn Orthodox teenager who smuggles ecstasy from Amsterdam?
 
2013-08-15 05:47:54 PM  
 
2013-08-15 05:50:04 PM  

grimnir: I do barley in a rice cooker. Put the barley in the rice cooker bowl with water, put it in the fridge, let it sit overnight, then pour off that old water, add some new water, and start the rice cooker. It came out soft and fluffy and very nice. The pre soak isn't absolutely necessary, but it makes the barley fluffier.


<snort> barley fluffer
 
2013-08-15 05:50:29 PM  

msupf: Maud Dib: msupf: rappy: This is one of the most boring food threads.

fine, lets add some gravy
[imageshack.us image 850x635]

Good job on the frozen peas, Emeril.

*gasp* oh no!

Watch me read up on how frozen vegetables are no different nutritionally from fresh again and not give a shiat.


Nutritionally, no difference. I agree.
Taste is another difference altogether, but it's obvious you "don't give a shiat".
 
2013-08-15 05:51:40 PM  

ahab: p the boiler: Is this the post where I get to tell you I eat paleo and I am better than you.

/because I eat paleo
//and this makes me better than your unhealthy ass

\not 100% paleo (I love the occasional sushi or mexican night with tortilla chips)
\\so, I am not really that much better than you
\\\do consider it though, it helped me drop 60 lbs in about 4 months and I have been keeping it off

I didn't get fat in the first place, so I don't need to rely on a fad diet to lose a bunch of weight.


It isn't a fad diet (it is eating for the way the human body was designed) - but to each their own
I wasn't obese - just had a knee injury that I let keep me out of working out for way too long
The big thing that I do recommend - paleo or not - is eat organic whenever possible
 
2013-08-15 05:54:28 PM  

p the boiler: ahab: p the boiler: Is this the post where I get to tell you I eat paleo and I am better than you.

/because I eat paleo
//and this makes me better than your unhealthy ass

\not 100% paleo (I love the occasional sushi or mexican night with tortilla chips)
\\so, I am not really that much better than you
\\\do consider it though, it helped me drop 60 lbs in about 4 months and I have been keeping it off

I didn't get fat in the first place, so I don't need to rely on a fad diet to lose a bunch of weight.

It isn't a fad diet (it is eating for the way the human body was designed) - but to each their own
I wasn't obese - just had a knee injury that I let keep me out of working out for way too long
The big thing that I do recommend - paleo or not - is eat organic whenever possible


From Dr. Wikipedia:
A 2011 ranking by U.S. News & World Report, involving a panel of 22 experts, ranked the Paleo diet lowest of the 20 diets evaluated based on factors including health, weight-loss and ease of following.[25] These results were repeated in the 2012 survey, in which the diet tied with the Dukan diet for the lowest ranking out of 29 diets; U.S. News & World Report stated that their experts "took issue with the diet on every measure".[25]
 
2013-08-15 05:57:29 PM  

p the boiler: Is this the post where I get to tell you I eat paleo and I am better than you.

/because I eat paleo
//and this makes me better than your unhealthy ass


What could possible go wrong with a diet that tells meat eaters to eat MORE meat!!!  (besides heart disease, stroke, kidney failure, and cancer of course)

People just love to hear that their bad habits are good for them I guess!
 
2013-08-15 05:58:19 PM  

Lusebagage: p the boiler: Is this the post where I get to tell you I eat paleo and I am better than you.

/because I eat paleo
//and this makes me better than your unhealthy ass

What could possible go wrong with a diet that tells meat eaters to eat MORE meat!!!  (besides heart disease, stroke, kidney failure, and cancer of course)

People just love to hear that their bad habits are good for them I guess!


Also, "Eat the way the human body was designed!  The way cavemen ate!"  What was the average lifespan for a caveman?
 
2013-08-15 05:59:42 PM  

Maud Dib: Black rice.
Makes a great salad.

[www.vegangela.com image 600x450]


It looks like it's covered in bugs.


I do like wild rice though.
 
2013-08-15 06:00:27 PM  
As an earthist, I only eat things that come from the ground. Let me share with the world some of my recipes.

Earth's Hair Strand:

2 cups of soil
1 earthworm
1/2 cup beetle dung

1. Cut the earthworm into long thin vertical strips so that it may resemble hair strands.
2. Put the soil in a baking pan.
3. Mix beetle dung into the soil.
4. Put vertical earthworm strips on top of the mixture.
5. Bake for 30 minutes.

The taste is so delicious that your mind might not be able to handle it at first. If you sign up for the earthist indoctrination, you will slowly learn to accept all types of food from mother nature's rectum.
 
2013-08-15 06:02:01 PM  
Speaking of grain always reminds me of some words said to me long ago: 'You'll remember me, when the west wind moves, upon the fields of barley. You'll forget the sun in his jealous sky, as we walk in fields of gold.   So she took her love for to gaze awhile upon the fields of barley.In his arms she fell, as her hair came down, among the fields of gold.Will you stay with me, will you be my love, among the fields of barley?'
 
2013-08-15 06:02:20 PM  
How about nice, plain white rice?

www.mixcrate.com
 
2013-08-15 06:07:47 PM  

Maud Dib: msupf: Maud Dib: msupf: rappy: This is one of the most boring food threads.

fine, lets add some gravy
[imageshack.us image 850x635]

Good job on the frozen peas, Emeril.

*gasp* oh no!

Watch me read up on how frozen vegetables are no different nutritionally from fresh again and not give a shiat.

Nutritionally, no difference. I agree.
Taste is another difference altogether, but it's obvious you "don't give a shiat".




The people with the actual profile name you tried to get are so much more interesting than you, Maude.
And you are wrong, even culinary experts can't tell fresh from frozen more often than guessing would allow for when they are prepped the same way.

But, the next time its winter and I want peas I'll make sure trudge around and find local fresh ones and think of you and your asinine nitpicking nonsense
 
2013-08-15 06:12:36 PM  

johnny_vegas: How about nice, plain white rice?

[www.mixcrate.com image 350x192]



I know, right?  I look forward to a nice Colombian dinner of rice, fried eggs and hamburger.
 
2013-08-15 06:14:35 PM  
As for barley, well, yes it can be good to eat, but honestly we should just pack it up and send it all to these people:

www.theglenrothes.com

/hot, like the splash of water isn't.
//now it's the Fark Drink Thread.
 
2013-08-15 06:14:56 PM  
Worldwide vegan demand for quinoa is starving Peruvians of one of their staple foods. Guardian UK
Plus, nasty. Ew.
 
2013-08-15 06:20:23 PM  

screwtable: Worldwide vegan demand for quinoa is starving Peruvians of one of their staple foods. Guardian UK
Plus, nasty. Ew.


NPR disagrees.
 
2013-08-15 06:21:20 PM  

ahab: Also, "Eat the way the human body was designed! The way cavemen ate!" What was the average lifespan for a caveman?


Great point Ahab, I'd say, like 25-30 years at best.

I once knew this fat christian lady with breast cancer who was entranced by the paleo fad diet,  my only response to her was, "I thought you didn't believe in cavemen?"

interesting timing, as Dr. Michael Klaper just got done thrashing the paleo diet live at veganpalooza, you can listen for free for the next 24 hours at this link, Please click me!

Right now, Rip Esselstyn (a triathlete and author) is thrashing the typical meat eating American, who is clueless about why they are so unhealthy.
 
2013-08-15 06:25:02 PM  

msupf: Maud Dib: msupf: Maud Dib: msupf: rappy: This is one of the most boring food threads.

fine, lets add some gravy
[imageshack.us image 850x635]

Good job on the frozen peas, Emeril.

*gasp* oh no!

Watch me read up on how frozen vegetables are no different nutritionally from fresh again and not give a shiat.

Nutritionally, no difference. I agree.
Taste is another difference altogether, but it's obvious you "don't give a shiat".

The people with the actual profile name you tried to get are so much more interesting than you, Maude.
And you are wrong, even culinary experts can't tell fresh from frozen more often than guessing would allow for when they are prepped the same way.

But, the next time its winter and I want peas I'll make sure trudge around and find local fresh ones and think of you and your asinine nitpicking nonsense


man that went stabby quick
 
2013-08-15 06:32:39 PM  

Lusebagage: ahab: Also, "Eat the way the human body was designed! The way cavemen ate!" What was the average lifespan for a caveman?

Great point Ahab, I'd say, like 25-30 years at best.


Actually it was 206.  They aged into dust so there is no evidence of them.  The remains we find  are the ones that got caught in the ice floes or stomped by a mammoth and represent the young idiots of the bunch.
 
2013-08-15 06:39:50 PM  
Corn is my favorite grain.  You can eat it more than once.
 
2013-08-15 06:46:42 PM  

ahab: screwtable: Worldwide vegan demand for quinoa is starving Peruvians of one of their staple foods. Guardian UK
Plus, nasty. Ew.

NPR disagrees.


Well, as long as US and Bolivian government sources say everything is ok, we should definitely expand our consumerism worldwide.
 
2013-08-15 06:49:39 PM  

ZzeusS: johnny_vegas: How about nice, plain white rice?

[www.mixcrate.com image 350x192]


I know, right?  I look forward to a nice Colombian dinner of rice, fried eggs and hamburger.


What's the stuff on the left?
 
2013-08-15 06:50:37 PM  

peacheslatour: ZzeusS: johnny_vegas: How about nice, plain white rice?

[www.mixcrate.com image 350x192]


I know, right?  I look forward to a nice Colombian dinner of rice, fried eggs and hamburger.

What's the stuff on the left?


macaroni salad....you know, to balance things out
 
2013-08-15 06:53:00 PM  

screwtable: ahab: screwtable: Worldwide vegan demand for quinoa is starving Peruvians of one of their staple foods. Guardian UK
Plus, nasty. Ew.

NPR disagrees.

Well, as long as US and Bolivian government sources say everything is ok, we should definitely expand our consumerism worldwide.


You're right, of course.  We should only eat food that was grown within 5 miles of where we live.
 
2013-08-15 06:54:19 PM  

johnny_vegas: peacheslatour: ZzeusS: johnny_vegas: How about nice, plain white rice?

[www.mixcrate.com image 350x192]


I know, right?  I look forward to a nice Colombian dinner of rice, fried eggs and hamburger.

What's the stuff on the left?

macaroni salad....you know, to balance things out


Well- of course! Silly me!
 
2013-08-15 06:56:56 PM  

ahab: You're right, of course. We should only eat food that was grown within 5 miles of where we live.


Well, that would jibe with the caveman thing.  To be truly authentic, one should only eat what you could run down and slay with a stone axe.

/The paleo exercise program...
 
2013-08-15 07:02:21 PM  

p the boiler: ahab: p the boiler: Is this the post where I get to tell you I eat paleo and I am better than you.

/because I eat paleo
//and this makes me better than your unhealthy ass

\not 100% paleo (I love the occasional sushi or mexican night with tortilla chips)
\\so, I am not really that much better than you
\\\do consider it though, it helped me drop 60 lbs in about 4 months and I have been keeping it off

I didn't get fat in the first place, so I don't need to rely on a fad diet to lose a bunch of weight.

It isn't a fad diet (it is eating for the way the human body was designed) - but to each their own
I wasn't obese - just had a knee injury that I let keep me out of working out for way too long
The big thing that I do recommend - paleo or not - is eat organic whenever possible


60 lbs?  You were obese.
 
2013-08-15 07:08:47 PM  
My wife is Peruvian, so we were eating quinoa long before it was the latest foodie craze.  My favorite?  Boil it up with some queso fresco and cubed beef.  Tastes kind of like like meaty cheese grits.  Just ate some for dinner, actually, along with a papa rellena

She makes a mean barley soup, too.
 
2013-08-15 07:10:34 PM  

johnny_vegas: msupf: Maud Dib: msupf: Maud Dib: msupf: rappy: This is one of the most boring food threads.

fine, lets add some gravy
[imageshack.us image 850x635]

Good job on the frozen peas, Emeril.

*gasp* oh no!

Watch me read up on how frozen vegetables are no different nutritionally from fresh again and not give a shiat.

Nutritionally, no difference. I agree.
Taste is another difference altogether, but it's obvious you "don't give a shiat".

The people with the actual profile name you tried to get are so much more interesting than you, Maude.
And you are wrong, even culinary experts can't tell fresh from frozen more often than guessing would allow for when they are prepped the same way.

But, the next time its winter and I want peas I'll make sure trudge around and find local fresh ones and think of you and your asinine nitpicking nonsense

man that went stabby quick




I have no patience for children who have nothing of value to add or anything constructive to say when commenting on what other people post.

"Your peas were frozen so you suck" isn't even an amusing troll attempt. Save that for the politics tab.
 
2013-08-15 07:11:29 PM  

SpacemanSpoof: My wife is Peruvian, so we were eating quinoa long before it was the latest foodie craze.  My favorite?  Boil it up with some queso fresco and cubed beef.  Tastes kind of like like meaty cheese grits.  Just ate some for dinner, actually, along with a papa rellena


So... quinoa, fresh cheese and cubed beef, with a stuffed potato? Doesn't sound so exotic if you translate the Spanish to English. :-/
 
2013-08-15 07:32:14 PM  
Here's a link to the barley cakes the Romans used to make...   They are quite tasty.

Sometimes we'll mix the batter with 50% soft red winter wheat, and if you thin the batter, they make great pancakes/griddle cakes.

I like the same 50/50 mix griddle cakes made with the soft red winter wheat and buckwheat - which isn't wheat btw - iirc it's related to sorrel. I believe the wife slips a little w/ the honey on these.

We used to make a quite tasty high protein bread with hard red winter wheat on a pizza stone; but haven't in a long time :>/

/I can resist sweets/desserts, but a good bread.... and I'm in trouble.
//played a little with some of the other grains, (oh, like bulgur wheat - big thumbs up)
///щи да каша, пища наша - (Cabbage soup and buckwheat porridge is our food). Damn but I wish the wife and kids liked cabbage in anything other than cabbage rolls. :>(
 
2013-08-15 07:38:48 PM  
I liked quinoa right up until it one day when it left me curled in a ball of farty misery for about 8 hours.

And yes I washed the crap out of it, which is another reason I'm off of it. I shouldn't have to waste gallons of water on something to make it edible.
 
2013-08-15 07:52:42 PM  
Bulgar is probably he easiest thing to make out there, you just soak it. Add some parsley, tomato, lemon, and garlic; you've got tabbouleh.
Another favorite is polenta, pretty much Italian grits. Goes great with some grilled peppers, onion, and sausage on top.
 
2013-08-15 07:53:03 PM  
I eat grains found only in the tombs of Toltec shamans; you've probably never heard of them.
 
2013-08-15 08:02:58 PM  

ami5000: I hate how Quinoa is pronounced. It offends my sensibilities.


So I told my wife about this thread, pronouncing it "kwin-OH-a", and she said "It's keen-WAH". Huh. Who knew.

And I understand, ami5000. It is indeed offensive.
 
2013-08-15 08:06:59 PM  

brykmantra: ami5000: I hate how Quinoa is pronounced. It offends my sensibilities.

So I told my wife about this thread, pronouncing it "kwin-OH-a", and she said "It's keen-WAH". Huh. Who knew.

And I understand, ami5000. It is indeed offensive.


Your wife is only partially right. Depending on which dictionary you ask, kee-NWAH, kwin-OH-uh, and KEE-noh-uh are all allowable.

/but kee-NWAH and KEE-noh-uh are abominations, and any intelligent dictionary would say so
 
2013-08-15 08:11:24 PM  
I've tried quinoa several times but I don't like the taste of it. No matter what you do the flavor still comes through.
 
2013-08-15 08:45:43 PM  
If you wish to start mild, try varying your rice.  For example, short grain "sticky" rice is the kind used in many Chinese restaurants, and has a different texture and flavor from long grain.  Also try black rice.

Wild rice is not rice, and has a different character if you eat it alone, not in pilaf.

Boiled rye berries are a tasty side dish, especially with a spicy entree.

Sorghum makes a good, gluten free flour, and its syrup is much like molasses.

(Amaranth can be popped over dry heat like
popcorn.  No need for oil. Its seeds can be
added to soups.)

Amaranth or Quinoa Pudding

It tastes surprisingly light compared
to rice pudding despite the fact that quinoa is
much higher in protein than rice.

Simmer quinoa or amaranth in an equal volume of
water for 12-15 minutes. Allow to cool.
2 cups amaranth or quinoa, cooked
1 cup apple juice
1/2 cup raisins
1/2 cup almonds, chopped fine
1 1/2 tsp vanilla
juice of 1/2 lemon
grated rind of one lemon
dash of cinnamon
Combine ingredients in a large sauce pan, cover and
bring to a boil. Reduce heat and simmer for 15 minutes.
Pour pudding into individual dessert bowls. Top with a
few grapes or strawberries and chill.
 
2013-08-15 08:47:29 PM  
Dammit, spelt and wheat are not farking berries!
 
2013-08-15 08:48:06 PM  
Real hipsters only use grain infested with ergot.
 
2013-08-15 08:51:30 PM  

astouffer: I've tried quinoa several times but I don't like the taste of it. No matter what you do the flavor still comes through.


Unless you're a vegan or vegetarian why eat it?
 
2013-08-15 09:04:00 PM  
I have a related question : are there any grains which are practical to grow in a backyard garden situation?

/I hope that's not too much of a thread-jack.
 
2013-08-15 09:08:21 PM  

big pig peaches: I have a related question : are there any grains which are practical to grow in a backyard garden situation?

/I hope that's not too much of a thread-jack.


Duh - corn.
Rye, barley, and oats you might be able to do.  But I doubt the payoff would be worth it.
 
2013-08-15 09:44:07 PM  

gweilo8888: SpacemanSpoof: My wife is Peruvian, so we were eating quinoa long before it was the latest foodie craze. My favorite? Boil it up with some queso fresco and cubed beef. Tastes kind of like like meaty cheese grits. Just ate some for dinner, actually, along with a papa rellena

So... quinoa, fresh cheese and cubed beef, with a stuffed potato? Doesn't sound so exotic if you translate the Spanish to English. :-/


Funny thing about translations - names carry a lot of significance that's lost when trying to sound smart by translating them into a different language.  Walk into a grocery store and ask for fresh cheese, and they'll as what kind you want.  Ask for queso fresco, and they'll point you to a certain variety of Mexican cheese that you probably didn't even notice right there on the shelf.  Papa rellena is a specific (and delicious) Peruvian dish that involves chopped beef, boiled egg, garlic, raisins, and some other stuff, all wrapped in a mashed potato ball, pan-fried and sometimes topped with salsa criolla (tomatoes and onions in lime juice).  But sure, go ahead and call it "stuffed potato" if you want. :-p
 
2013-08-15 09:59:48 PM  

SpacemanSpoof: Funny thing about translations - names carry a lot of significance that's lost when trying to sound smart by translating them into a different language.  Walk into a grocery store and ask for fresh cheese, and they'll as what kind you want.  Ask for queso fresco, and they'll point you to a certain variety of Mexican cheese that you probably didn't even notice right there on the shelf.  Papa rellena is a specific (and delicious) Peruvian dish that involves chopped beef, boiled egg, garlic, raisins, and some other stuff, all wrapped in a mashed potato ball, pan-fried and sometimes topped with salsa criolla (tomatoes and onions in lime juice).  But sure, go ahead and call it "stuffed potato" if you want. :-p


That whooshing sound is the joke sailing over your head. I wasn't being serious.
 
2013-08-15 10:08:56 PM  
This lady uses bulgur & oats to make (vegan) burgers:
http://blogs.southshorenow.ca/vegan/?p=157
 
2013-08-15 10:35:31 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: I hear quadrotriticale is pretty good.


I see what your doing there and its tribbling.
 
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