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(CBS News)   The USA's bar tab has reached $223 billion   (cbsnews.com) divider line 125
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2013-08-15 03:31:36 PM  
But total U.S. beer sales stand at about $100 billion, so the "tab" is really only about $123B.
 
2013-08-15 03:32:48 PM  
I've seen that drunk woman passed out on a bench before. She was illustrating a British article on binge-drinking. I guess she is a trans-Atlantic drunk. When the bars close in the UK, she hops a plane to Boston or New York.
 
2013-08-15 03:34:46 PM  
Costs? Costs for who? The state gets its pound of flesh in alcohol taxes, and then when they arrest you they get you in court costs and fines. Counseling services and rehabs get paid to run people through, lawyers get paid to defend, towing companies, ambulance companies, insurance companies, etc. Everybody gets paid but you.

Alcohol is big business for all involved. So what you show up for work and productivity is down, someone else is already doing it if it's important, and if it's not, who cares?
 
2013-08-15 03:34:49 PM  

Jerkwater: jfivealive: berylman: Binge-drinking: 5 drinks in less than 2 hours
Power binge-drinking: half a fifth in 2 minutes (don't do this!)

Is binge drinking really defined as 5 drinks in less than 2 hours?

In America it is.


Well thats it then, I am a diagnosed binge drinker.  Drank 5 yesterday after work while mowing the lawn and changing the oil on the ATV.  Got home at 5, was in at 6 30.  Guess im farked.
 
2013-08-15 03:34:55 PM  

TheWhoppah: / Texas is also near the top of the list of the number of miles driven drunk per driver... because we have long roads!



I would have guessed it was because it's not illegal to drive with open containers in the car ... or did y'all get around to fixing that?
 
2013-08-15 03:36:07 PM  
They are trying to make this sound like a bad thing.
 
2013-08-15 03:42:19 PM  
I love alcohol threads. The remind me of alcohol.
 
2013-08-15 03:42:59 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: I love alcohol threads. The remind me of alcohol.


I agre.
 
2013-08-15 03:43:29 PM  
Is it me or is the girl in the article hot?
 
2013-08-15 03:44:44 PM  
The state that absorbed the least alcohol costs was North Dakota, coming in at $420 million. The most costs were found in California, totaling nearly $32 billion.

Well that's completely farking useless. Thanks for ranking them per-capita, morans.
 
2013-08-15 03:44:59 PM  
Maybe if people hid alcohol in sugary drinks less they'd be better at regulating consumption.
 
2013-08-15 03:46:28 PM  

phaseolus: TheWhoppah: / Texas is also near the top of the list of the number of miles driven drunk per driver... because we have long roads!


I would have guessed it was because it's not illegal to drive with open containers in the car ... or did y'all get around to fixing that?



In a car an open container is only allowed in the trunk.  In a truck it is only allowed behind the last seat.  That said, in an SUV it may be possible to cap it and throw it behind the back seat as you are pulling over if you are sober enough to manage.  In Austin, our elected District Attorney was arrested with a .239 BAC and an open container of vodak in the cab of her car.  She did a few weeks in the county jail but is still the DA.  She can't exactly resign and allow Rick Perry (oops) to appoint her replacement.  Last Sunday afternoon one of her Assistant District Attorneys rear-ended a mini cooper and hurt a couple of ladies.  He hasn't resigned yet either.
 
2013-08-15 03:46:38 PM  
This study just focuses on the costs of binge drinking without taking into consideration any of the offsetting savings and benefits. For example, I have 5 kids at home and a wife who works nights, making me virtually a single parent most of the time. Binge drinking is what allows me to get through the week without chopping up my family with an ax and then heading to the nearest mall to shoot the place up. Do they figure THAT in anywhere? I didn't think so.
 
2013-08-15 03:47:45 PM  

Blues_X: They act like "risky sexual behaviors" are a bad thing.


More like the lowered standards brought about by alcohol:

Last call (SFW)
 
2013-08-15 03:51:04 PM  

mod3072: This study just focuses on the costs of binge drinking without taking into consideration any of the offsetting savings and benefits. For example, I have 5 kids at home and a wife who works nights, making me virtually a single parent most of the time. Binge drinking is what allows me to get through the week without chopping up my family with an ax and then heading to the nearest mall to shoot the place up. Do they figure THAT in anywhere? I didn't think so.


I thought I was the only one.
 
2013-08-15 03:51:15 PM  

jfivealive: berylman: Binge-drinking: 5 drinks in less than 2 hours
Power binge-drinking: half a fifth in 2 minutes (don't do this!)

Is binge drinking really defined as 5 drinks in less than 2 hours?


where i live, bars don't close, so it's very rare to see binge drinking.

of course, it's not rare to have 20 or more drinks in a night (start at 5pm, end at 5am... or if it's mardi gras, start at 7am, end at church tomorrow morning with ash on your head)
 
2013-08-15 03:53:09 PM  

MemeSlave: Is it me or is the girl in the article hot?


Yup. My first thought too.
 
2013-08-15 03:54:07 PM  

cyberspacedout: Blues_X: They act like "risky sexual behaviors" are a bad thing.

More like the lowered standards brought about by alcohol:

Last call (SFW)


He's got a point, chick that still have all their limbs are hot.
 
2013-08-15 03:54:08 PM  
Hmm, Washington State rated in the top ten for total costs but fairly low in binge drinking. I guess we just keep a level amount of booze in our systems to adjust for the lack of sun.
 
2013-08-15 03:55:03 PM  
blogs.ocweekly.com
full scorpion
 
2013-08-15 03:58:46 PM  

brothajahn: [blogs.ocweekly.com image 400x400]
full scorpion


I wonder if anyone tried to press charges for that picture.  I could see a jury convict based on that pic.
 
2013-08-15 04:04:33 PM  

elchupacabra: brothajahn: [blogs.ocweekly.com image 400x400]
full scorpion

I wonder if anyone tried to press charges for that picture.  I could see a jury convict based on that pic.


So, too drunk to agree to have sex, but sober enough to be culpable for attempting to drive (emphasis on attempt).

The law is weird.
 
2013-08-15 04:06:31 PM  

vudukungfu: Binge drinking; Defined by MADD as anyone who purchases a 6 pack.

Alcohol.

FTFY
 
2013-08-15 04:06:37 PM  

ph0rk: Maybe if people hid alcohol in sugary drinks less they'd be better at regulating consumption.


Are you dissing my Vodka/Kool Aid mixer?  'Cause dammit, they're delicious!
 
2013-08-15 04:08:22 PM  
Temperance 2.0. Will they ever learn?
 
2013-08-15 04:11:28 PM  
So if I'm adding this up correctly, if we eliminate:
Drinking
Final four office pools
Music piracy
Ring around the collar

We'll more than double the amount of wealth on the planet.
 
2013-08-15 04:13:00 PM  

brothajahn: [blogs.ocweekly.com image 400x400]
full scorpion


What is that between the door and the windshield.  Is that Chip or Dale of the Rescue Rangers?
 
2013-08-15 04:20:56 PM  
I blame these guys for raising the price of alcohol to levels beyond it's actual worth.

pics.myspew.com
 
2013-08-15 04:23:03 PM  

TheWhoppah: phaseolus: TheWhoppah: / Texas is also near the top of the list of the number of miles driven drunk per driver... because we have long roads!


I would have guessed it was because it's not illegal to drive with open containers in the car ... or did y'all get around to fixing that?


In a car an open container is only allowed in the trunk.  In a truck it is only allowed behind the last seat.  That said, in an SUV it may be possible to cap it and throw it behind the back seat as you are pulling over if you are sober enough to manage.  In Austin, our elected District Attorney was arrested with a .239 BAC and an open container of vodak in the cab of her car.  She did a few weeks in the county jail but is still the DA.  She can't exactly resign and allow Rick Perry (oops) to appoint her replacement.  Last Sunday afternoon one of her Assistant District Attorneys rear-ended a mini cooper and hurt a couple of ladies.  He hasn't resigned yet either.


After Lehmberg, you would think the whole DA's office would have set Yellow Checker on speed-dial. Especially with Perry breathing down their neck. Dumbass.

I second that the article seems to be using MADD/NSTA math (if there is a bottle of rubbing alcohol in the trunk during when you jump a curb, it's an "alcohol related collision"). And how much in tax revenue is collected off the importing, licencing, distributing, retailing, wholesaling, & serving of booze? The Feds, State, County, & City all usually get a slice or three.
 
2013-08-15 04:24:33 PM  
Let's more strictly regulate the sale of alcohol to adults of legal age, brilliant idea given what a smashing success Prohibition turned out to be.
 
2013-08-15 04:24:50 PM  
I'll drink to that!
 
2013-08-15 04:26:22 PM  
*NTSB*

It's already happy hour here.
 
2013-08-15 04:26:51 PM  
Also, Pennsylvania's draconian (not to mention literally Quaker) laws on the sale of alcohol have completely eliminated anything resembling "alcohol related" problems statewide.  Let's do more of that!
 
2013-08-15 04:29:12 PM  
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2013-08-15 04:31:05 PM  
Hey, here is an idea that has always worked in the past. Just make a new tax to deal with this. I'm sure that you could use the money for something very important, like studies on how cow farts affect the ozone, and 500 dollar hammers.
 
2013-08-15 04:51:17 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Hey, here is an idea that has always worked in the past. Just make a new tax to deal with this. I'm sure that you could use the money for something very important, like studies on how cow farts affect the ozone, and 500 dollar hammers.


I don't think cow farts affect 500 dollar hammers at all.

/Yeah, I know there's a comma in there -- why you wanna ruin my joke.
 
2013-08-15 04:52:36 PM  
Maybe if your damn beer had a discernible alcohol content you wouldn't have to buy/drink so many of 'em to get a glow on?
 
2013-08-15 04:52:55 PM  
wait...we have a bar tab?  I need in on this...
 
2013-08-15 04:54:08 PM  

MemeSlave: Is it me or is the girl in the article hot?


hard to tell since there is no pic of you...
 
2013-08-15 04:55:52 PM  

PrivateCaboose: DC, always topping out the list. Good job, fellow yuppies lobbyists!


When my wife worked for a Representative, we were having drinks pushed in to our hands at parties twice a week.
 
2013-08-15 04:59:43 PM  
Hangover Song.
 
2013-08-15 05:06:00 PM  

TheWhoppah: Hell yes!  Texans miss the least amount of work due to excess drinking!  This is either because we git our assess to work even with a nasty hangover or because the quality of the work we do sober is not that much better than being dwunk at work.

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/ Texas is also near the top of the list of the number of miles driven drunk per driver... because we have long roads!


Wait, Texans work? I thought you had Mexico come over and do that for you, so you could spend all of your time herpy-derping about libruls?
 
2013-08-15 05:08:17 PM  
Iowa had the lowest ($622).

So, you don't drink as much on meth?
 
2013-08-15 05:09:10 PM  
223.5 bn/year, huh?

So 300 million in the US, about 35-40 million of those of below drinking age or the adult age where they drink anyway.

Comes out to about 850$/person*yr, or about 70$/month per adult.

... and now you know why they put it in the stupid sensational units that are meaningless to most people: put in real, meaningful terms, what the CDC just told us is that the US can completely pay for the secondary costs of all of its partying, binge-drinking, and general excess by eating in instead of at a restaurant once a week, or not eating out twice a month and skipping the popcorn at the movie theater.  This shiat's really cheap, is what I'm getting at here, even when I'm fark-you old and retired with no income I'll totally chip in my 70 a month to cure all liver disease and other alcohol-related issues in the entire nation.

Seriously, I pay much more than that in the portion of my taxes that funds things that directly harm me and/or have no benefit to anyone, like the TSA, two wars in the middle east, and a bunch of fighter jets that the military literally doesn't want and has told congress they'll mothball immediately.  You think I'm going to balk at the shared (and it is shared, that's how health insurance works) that helps people that share activities that I enjoy and are better with company?  fark no.  Hell, look at my bar tab, I'm barely post-poverty line and it's probably higher than that too.
 
2013-08-15 05:12:25 PM  
Binge drinking -- defined as when men drink more than five drinks and women drink more than four drinks in two hours...

Bwahahahahahahahaha!
 
2013-08-15 05:14:17 PM  

Hoblit: How in the world are these monetary statistics 'determined'. The article basically sites other articles for these numbers. I fail to see how they determine that whatever costs incurred were directly related to alcohol beyond a shadow of a doubt.


They are always made up horseshiat.

They'll do things like figure 'this many people come in an hour late' and then turn it into a number based on labor productivity stats. Of course it's bullshiat because people just move their work around and do it later.
 
2013-08-15 05:16:19 PM  
Or another way to look at it, the cost per adult is 17 bucks a week, i.e. if you're minimum wage you're working two extra hours a week to cure all alcohol-related problems forever and if you're around the national average you working about an hour (median hourly) or about 40 minutes (mean hourly) to cover it.  Compare that to the number of hours a week improved by the presence of alcohol.

Bet you're damn well coming out ahead even if you're damn near a teetotaler.
 
2013-08-15 05:17:45 PM  

Texian: After Lehmberg, you would think the whole DA's office would have set Yellow Checker on speed-dial.


If you've been in Austin long enough you probably had that Mr. Gatti's pizza jingle drilled into your skull:
   Dial 459-2222 and get a Mr. Gatti's pizza delivered  Real cheese,   Real hot  Real taste is what we got ...

Like the guys in that linked video, most Austinites can sing that jingle when they are shiatfaced dwunk.

To call Yellow Cab, just swap the 9 and 2.... Dial 452-9999 to get a gaddamned Yellow Cab for your drunk ass.

// jot it down!
 
2013-08-15 05:20:30 PM  
A buddy of mine works for a bar. He gave me the worst combination of words. "Just put it on my tab" That was the last time I had a hangover.
 
2013-08-15 05:28:49 PM  
Yeah, higher alcohol taxes.  That doesn't disportionately impact the poor, who may be looking for some sort of legal escapism.

Maybe they could look into why so many people want a "short" break from reality.
 
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