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2013-08-15 02:38:58 PM
Half of that is Norm's.
 
2013-08-15 02:47:37 PM
but enough about Drew...
 
2013-08-15 02:47:58 PM
DC, always topping out the list. Good job, fellow yuppies!
 
2013-08-15 02:50:38 PM
A 2012 CDC study estimated about 38 million U.S. adults, or about one in six people, are binge drinkers, with a reported average of four episodes per month.

I call those episodes "weekends".
 
2013-08-15 02:54:21 PM
"Binge drinking -- defined as when men drink more than five drinks and women drink more than four drinks in two hours"

or what Farkers consider "a light lunch".
 
2013-08-15 02:57:49 PM
Farking lawyers, always ruining every bar they touch
 
2013-08-15 02:58:00 PM
Binge drinking; Defined by MADD as anyone who purchases a 6 pack.
 
2013-08-15 02:58:34 PM
Otherwise known as "Monday" in Russia
 
2013-08-15 03:00:46 PM
As someone who drank a shiat-load of whiskey last night...I'm getting a headache.
 
2013-08-15 03:02:21 PM
Wait for the barkeep to retire and sell the bar.  Go in on his last day offering to pay.  Drink heavily with him.  Stumble home with a couple hundred dollar tab still hanging above the register and quite a few mementos from days gone by.  That's how I finally did it. RIP Mr. LPK.
 
2013-08-15 03:02:59 PM

MrBallou: "Binge drinking -- defined as when men drink more than five drinks and women drink more than four drinks in two hours"

or what Farkers consider "a light lunch".


You have a point. I had 9 beers in about 2.5 hours the other day just because my family was out and I had the place all to myself.
 
2013-08-15 03:04:01 PM
How in the world are these monetary statistics 'determined'. The article basically sites other articles for these numbers. I fail to see how they determine that whatever costs incurred were directly related to alcohol beyond a shadow of a doubt.
 
2013-08-15 03:04:17 PM
A 2012 CDC study estimated about 38 million U.S. adults, or about one in six people, are binge drinkers, with a reported average of four episodes per month. This is the important part.  I'd hit that average only by drinking during football season.
 
2013-08-15 03:05:10 PM
Look, I'll get you next week, all right? You know I'm good for it.
 
2013-08-15 03:06:42 PM

Pants_Optional: A 2012 CDC study estimated about 38 million U.S. adults, or about one in six people, are binge drinkers, with a reported average of four episodes per month. This is the important part.  I'd hit that average only by drinking during football season.


It doesn't say how they define a binge drinker and that pisses me off.  I probably do that once a month if that, and I wouldn't consider myself a binge drinker.
 
2013-08-15 03:07:12 PM
They act like "risky sexual behaviors" are a bad thing.
 
2013-08-15 03:07:45 PM

vernonFL: A 2012 CDC study estimated about 38 million U.S. adults, or about one in six people, are binge drinkers, with a reported average of four episodes per month.

I call those episodes "weekends".


I call em "weeks."
 
2013-08-15 03:07:49 PM
Binge-drinking: 5 drinks in less than 2 hours
Power binge-drinking: half a fifth in 2 minutes (don't do this!)
 
2013-08-15 03:09:15 PM
Health costs? Seriously?  I'm disappointed.  I thought this was the amount of alcohol government purchased on the tax payers dime.  Man, what a let down.
 
2013-08-15 03:10:26 PM

berylman: Binge-drinking: 5 drinks in less than 2 hours
Power binge-drinking: half a fifth in 2 minutes (don't do this!)


Is binge drinking really defined as 5 drinks in less than 2 hours?
 
2013-08-15 03:11:27 PM

jfivealive: berylman: Binge-drinking: 5 drinks in less than 2 hours
Power binge-drinking: half a fifth in 2 minutes (don't do this!)

Is binge drinking really defined as 5 drinks in less than 2 hours?


It is if you're trying to spread the word about the "evils of the binge drinking epidemic that is sweeping this nation".
 
2013-08-15 03:11:30 PM
I'm getting a kick out of this.

I've not had a drink in 5 years and I support Alcohol Prohibition until it's decided that the war on drugs needs to end, what's good for the goose and all that. 
Let's see how happy everyone is when SWAT kicks in your door for a 12 pack of Schlitz and sentences you to 25 - life.

It'd be so divine to see that happen to all the hypocrites of the world.
 
2013-08-15 03:11:30 PM
The state that absorbed the least alcohol costs was North Dakota, coming in at $420 million. The most costs were found in California, totaling nearly $32 billion.
The researchers broke down the numbers even further and found based on population, the District of Columbia has the highest per-person cost associated with excessive drinking ($1,662 per person) while Iowa had the lowest ($622).


Wow!  They divided the total by the population for EACH state.  You would need access to something like Excel to do that.  Pretty high-tech stuff.
 
2013-08-15 03:11:46 PM

America will gladly you pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.

A deal which you can not get, oddly enough, at the British hamburger chain, Wimpy's.


Artist's impression of American tourists
sadly turning away from a Wimpy's Restaurant:


upload.wikimedia.org
How the Mighty Art Fallen



Did you know that Wimpy's full name is J. Wellington Wimpy? Why didn't the British name their restaurnt J. Wellington Wimpy's. Rather out of character, dontchurthink?
 
2013-08-15 03:11:48 PM

johnny_vegas: Otherwise known as "Monday" in Russia


getting a kick.

Thur nite 11:11pm in russia now
 
2013-08-15 03:11:48 PM
They are ignoring all the profit made off drinkers, and all the taxes governments gouge out of people for buying alcohol. Subtract that from the "cost" they're crowing about to get a better grip on reality.
 
2013-08-15 03:12:21 PM

jfivealive: berylman: Binge-drinking: 5 drinks in less than 2 hours
Power binge-drinking: half a fifth in 2 minutes (don't do this!)

Is binge drinking really defined as 5 drinks in less than 2 hours?


In America it is.
 
2013-08-15 03:13:39 PM
Money well spent, if you ask me
 
2013-08-15 03:14:47 PM

Pants_Optional: A 2012 CDC study estimated about 38 million U.S. adults, or about one in six people, are binge drinkers, with a reported average of four episodes per month. This is the important part.  I'd hit that average only by drinking during football season.


And then hockey starts to get good...
 
2013-08-15 03:15:38 PM

MrBallou: "Binge drinking -- defined as when men drink more than five drinks and women drink more than four drinks in two hours"

or what Farkers consider "a light lunch".


Wait, so they're saying you have to drink that fast to consider it a binge? So my habit of 4-8 drinks every night, spaced over sixhours is OK? Woohoo, I'm not a binge drinker!

/I am not an alcoholic. I'm a drunkard. Alcoholics go to meetings.
 
2013-08-15 03:15:54 PM
FTFA: The researchers broke down the numbers even further and found based on population, the District of Columbia has the highest per-person cost associated with excessive drinking ($1,662 per person).

Wining and dining the politicians ain't cheap.
 
2013-08-15 03:17:56 PM
That's why I'm homebrewing more.  Suckers!
 
2013-08-15 03:19:29 PM
I'll drink to that.
 
2013-08-15 03:20:06 PM

brantgoose: America will gladly you pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.

A deal which you can not get, oddly enough, at the British hamburger chain, Wimpy's.


Artist's impression of American tourists
sadly turning away from a Wimpy's Restaurant:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 245x178]
How the Mighty Art Fallen


Did you know that Wimpy's full name is J. Wellington Wimpy? Why didn't the British name their restaurnt J. Wellington Wimpy's. Rather out of character, dontchurthink?


I thought Wimpy went out of business, but apparently they're still around, despite being battered around in a series of buyouts and losing most of their market share to Burger King and McDonald's.
 
2013-08-15 03:20:09 PM
Lightweights
 
2013-08-15 03:21:09 PM
FTA: "Across all states, excessive drinking costs due to productivity losses (such as missed work) ranged from 61 percent in Wyoming to 82 percent in the District of Columbia. The share of costs due to added health care expenses ranged from 8 percent in Texas to 16 percent in Vermont."

Hell yes!  Texans miss the least amount of work due to excess drinking!  This is either because we git our assess to work even with a nasty hangover or because the quality of the work we do sober is not that much better than being dwunk at work.

www.tshirtwatch.com

/ Texas is also near the top of the list of the number of miles driven drunk per driver... because we have long roads!
 
2013-08-15 03:21:32 PM
But don't forget; always binge responsibly.
 
2013-08-15 03:22:11 PM

bingethinker: They are ignoring all the profit made off drinkers, and all the taxes governments gouge out of people for buying alcohol. Subtract that from the "cost" they're crowing about to get a better grip on reality.


But but but it wouldn't be as dramatic if they did that. Same deal with the "cost" of smoking you see in studies.
 
2013-08-15 03:23:19 PM

MrBallou: "Binge drinking -- defined as when men drink more than five drinks and women drink more than four drinks in two hours"

or what Farkers consider "a light lunch".


1 drink every 20 or 30 minutes is binge drinking ?

I thought the 1 drink every 1/2 hour or so was responsible drinking.
 
2013-08-15 03:23:39 PM
The distilled spirits industry is totally opposed to binge drinking... is a thing that no one anywhere will ever believe.
 
2013-08-15 03:24:12 PM

bingethinker: They are ignoring all the profit made off drinkers, and all the taxes governments gouge out of people for buying alcohol. Subtract that from the "cost" they're crowing about to get a better grip on reality.


No only that but it may be quite a bit cheaper to die of cirrhosis and lung cancer at age 67 than to wait for multi-organ failure at 94.
 
2013-08-15 03:24:51 PM
cdn.cosbysweaters.com
drunk girl thread
 
2013-08-15 03:25:37 PM

kindms: MrBallou: "Binge drinking -- defined as when men drink more than five drinks and women drink more than four drinks in two hours"

or what Farkers consider "a light lunch".

1 drink every 20 or 30 minutes is binge drinking ?

I thought the 1 drink every 1/2 hour or so was responsible drinking.


Well it starts off being responsible but then you start pouring doubles.  I know I'm not the only one.
 
2013-08-15 03:26:44 PM
Supposedly, you're binge drinking any time you get your BAC over .08, e.g. five drinks in two hours for an average man, or four for an average woman. That's the standard proposed by the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NAMBLA).
 
2013-08-15 03:27:03 PM

SDRR: Pants_Optional: A 2012 CDC study estimated about 38 million U.S. adults, or about one in six people, are binge drinkers, with a reported average of four episodes per month. This is the important part.  I'd hit that average only by drinking during football season.

And then hockey starts to get good...


Play offs around my house are known as "Daddy comes to bed stumbling around midnight"
 
2013-08-15 03:28:16 PM
I love that they start talking about the health problems associated with alcohol and throw out that huge number and then in a somewhat roundabout way tell you that $171 Billion of that cost is the cost of the booze when binge drinking.
 
2013-08-15 03:28:32 PM

funzyr: MrBallou: "Binge drinking -- defined as when men drink more than five drinks and women drink more than four drinks in two hours"

or what Farkers consider "a light lunch".

You have a point. I had 9 beers in about 2.5 hours the other day just because my family was out and I had the place all to myself.


Seriously. People talk about having beer for breakfast like it's a bad thing. Studies show that people who skip breakfast tend to be more overweight than those who don't and less healthy in general. QED.
 
2013-08-15 03:29:44 PM
My beer shiats stimulate the toilet paper economy, so suck it!
 
2013-08-15 03:29:46 PM
Being part French, I feel your pain over the ravages of alcohol. I mock it pitilessly, but I feel it. The French are like that. If you fall on your head, they'll laugh and laugh and help you up, dust your coat and send you to the hospital for high quality, low cost government-insured medical care. But they will have their laugh first.

I admit it. I saw a drunk slipping on ice once and he fell on his head (not in a cartoony up and down way, more of an inverted V like the caret symbol). I had to laugh. I had to wait to see if he got up again also. The ice was terrible, the street sloped, I didn't want to get close to him for my safety's sake, but I did wait to see if he would be moving along all right. That's the French spirit: always ready for a good laugh at somebody else's expense, but willing to be a Good Catholic afterwards, even if not Catholic or Good.

Despite the ravages of alcoholism on individuals, families and societies, you're real amateurs when it comes to alcoholism. Too many teetotalitarians, as James Joyce put it. And too many young people who drink like savages (in binges, for the sake of getting drunk fast). Not dedicated professionals like the Russians, or Good Amateurs like the Germans, or even Half-Assed Wannabees like the British or Australians. Just good old-fashioned quasi-puritanical American amateurs. You worry about your health too much to be fully-qualified alcoholics.

The French may have more liver damage, but it isn't because they don't know how to drink. They just don't know how to stop. May have something with how they drive, come to think of it.

I admire a drunk who can hold his liquor. A gentle, quiet drunk who some how manages to make it home before throwing up or falling down. I've only seen a few of these, but they exist. They are the gentlemen of the drinking classes, because when you drink, it's just your inhibitions that go, not your sense of right and wrong. To behave like a gentlemen when you are drunk, you have only to be a gentleman. Not a wild dog in a cage, but a gentleman to the bone. The kind of civilized person who is still civilized when falling down drunk. A saint, some might say.

As I said already, I have met a very few, bless 'em.

All in all you're on the right path provided you eventually get the balance right and wander neither to the right nor the left. What's a couple of hundred billion dollars, after all? The damages are cheaper than the booze!
 
2013-08-15 03:30:28 PM

kindms: MrBallou: "Binge drinking -- defined as when men drink more than five drinks and women drink more than four drinks in two hours"

or what Farkers consider "a light lunch".

1 drink every 20 or 30 minutes is binge drinking ?

I thought the 1 drink every 1/2 hour or so was responsible drinking.


The military standard is moving toward the Air Force standard, which is no more than one drink per hour, no more than three drinks per day. Also known as WTP drinking (what's the point?). Your liver metabolizes one drink per hour, more or less, so anything above one an hour after the first two is pushing you into DUI/binge territory.
 
2013-08-15 03:31:36 PM
But total U.S. beer sales stand at about $100 billion, so the "tab" is really only about $123B.
 
2013-08-15 03:32:48 PM
I've seen that drunk woman passed out on a bench before. She was illustrating a British article on binge-drinking. I guess she is a trans-Atlantic drunk. When the bars close in the UK, she hops a plane to Boston or New York.
 
2013-08-15 03:34:46 PM
Costs? Costs for who? The state gets its pound of flesh in alcohol taxes, and then when they arrest you they get you in court costs and fines. Counseling services and rehabs get paid to run people through, lawyers get paid to defend, towing companies, ambulance companies, insurance companies, etc. Everybody gets paid but you.

Alcohol is big business for all involved. So what you show up for work and productivity is down, someone else is already doing it if it's important, and if it's not, who cares?
 
2013-08-15 03:34:49 PM

Jerkwater: jfivealive: berylman: Binge-drinking: 5 drinks in less than 2 hours
Power binge-drinking: half a fifth in 2 minutes (don't do this!)

Is binge drinking really defined as 5 drinks in less than 2 hours?

In America it is.


Well thats it then, I am a diagnosed binge drinker.  Drank 5 yesterday after work while mowing the lawn and changing the oil on the ATV.  Got home at 5, was in at 6 30.  Guess im farked.
 
2013-08-15 03:34:55 PM

TheWhoppah: / Texas is also near the top of the list of the number of miles driven drunk per driver... because we have long roads!



I would have guessed it was because it's not illegal to drive with open containers in the car ... or did y'all get around to fixing that?
 
2013-08-15 03:36:07 PM
They are trying to make this sound like a bad thing.
 
2013-08-15 03:42:19 PM
I love alcohol threads. The remind me of alcohol.
 
2013-08-15 03:42:59 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: I love alcohol threads. The remind me of alcohol.


I agre.
 
2013-08-15 03:43:29 PM
Is it me or is the girl in the article hot?
 
2013-08-15 03:44:44 PM
The state that absorbed the least alcohol costs was North Dakota, coming in at $420 million. The most costs were found in California, totaling nearly $32 billion.

Well that's completely farking useless. Thanks for ranking them per-capita, morans.
 
2013-08-15 03:44:59 PM
Maybe if people hid alcohol in sugary drinks less they'd be better at regulating consumption.
 
2013-08-15 03:46:28 PM

phaseolus: TheWhoppah: / Texas is also near the top of the list of the number of miles driven drunk per driver... because we have long roads!


I would have guessed it was because it's not illegal to drive with open containers in the car ... or did y'all get around to fixing that?



In a car an open container is only allowed in the trunk.  In a truck it is only allowed behind the last seat.  That said, in an SUV it may be possible to cap it and throw it behind the back seat as you are pulling over if you are sober enough to manage.  In Austin, our elected District Attorney was arrested with a .239 BAC and an open container of vodak in the cab of her car.  She did a few weeks in the county jail but is still the DA.  She can't exactly resign and allow Rick Perry (oops) to appoint her replacement.  Last Sunday afternoon one of her Assistant District Attorneys rear-ended a mini cooper and hurt a couple of ladies.  He hasn't resigned yet either.
 
2013-08-15 03:46:38 PM
This study just focuses on the costs of binge drinking without taking into consideration any of the offsetting savings and benefits. For example, I have 5 kids at home and a wife who works nights, making me virtually a single parent most of the time. Binge drinking is what allows me to get through the week without chopping up my family with an ax and then heading to the nearest mall to shoot the place up. Do they figure THAT in anywhere? I didn't think so.
 
2013-08-15 03:47:45 PM

Blues_X: They act like "risky sexual behaviors" are a bad thing.


More like the lowered standards brought about by alcohol:

Last call (SFW)
 
2013-08-15 03:51:04 PM

mod3072: This study just focuses on the costs of binge drinking without taking into consideration any of the offsetting savings and benefits. For example, I have 5 kids at home and a wife who works nights, making me virtually a single parent most of the time. Binge drinking is what allows me to get through the week without chopping up my family with an ax and then heading to the nearest mall to shoot the place up. Do they figure THAT in anywhere? I didn't think so.


I thought I was the only one.
 
2013-08-15 03:51:15 PM

jfivealive: berylman: Binge-drinking: 5 drinks in less than 2 hours
Power binge-drinking: half a fifth in 2 minutes (don't do this!)

Is binge drinking really defined as 5 drinks in less than 2 hours?


where i live, bars don't close, so it's very rare to see binge drinking.

of course, it's not rare to have 20 or more drinks in a night (start at 5pm, end at 5am... or if it's mardi gras, start at 7am, end at church tomorrow morning with ash on your head)
 
2013-08-15 03:53:09 PM

MemeSlave: Is it me or is the girl in the article hot?


Yup. My first thought too.
 
2013-08-15 03:54:07 PM

cyberspacedout: Blues_X: They act like "risky sexual behaviors" are a bad thing.

More like the lowered standards brought about by alcohol:

Last call (SFW)


He's got a point, chick that still have all their limbs are hot.
 
2013-08-15 03:54:08 PM
Hmm, Washington State rated in the top ten for total costs but fairly low in binge drinking. I guess we just keep a level amount of booze in our systems to adjust for the lack of sun.
 
2013-08-15 03:55:03 PM
blogs.ocweekly.com
full scorpion
 
2013-08-15 03:58:46 PM

brothajahn: [blogs.ocweekly.com image 400x400]
full scorpion


I wonder if anyone tried to press charges for that picture.  I could see a jury convict based on that pic.
 
2013-08-15 04:04:33 PM

elchupacabra: brothajahn: [blogs.ocweekly.com image 400x400]
full scorpion

I wonder if anyone tried to press charges for that picture.  I could see a jury convict based on that pic.


So, too drunk to agree to have sex, but sober enough to be culpable for attempting to drive (emphasis on attempt).

The law is weird.
 
2013-08-15 04:06:31 PM

vudukungfu: Binge drinking; Defined by MADD as anyone who purchases a 6 pack.

Alcohol.

FTFY
 
2013-08-15 04:06:37 PM

ph0rk: Maybe if people hid alcohol in sugary drinks less they'd be better at regulating consumption.


Are you dissing my Vodka/Kool Aid mixer?  'Cause dammit, they're delicious!
 
2013-08-15 04:08:22 PM
Temperance 2.0. Will they ever learn?
 
2013-08-15 04:11:28 PM
So if I'm adding this up correctly, if we eliminate:
Drinking
Final four office pools
Music piracy
Ring around the collar

We'll more than double the amount of wealth on the planet.
 
2013-08-15 04:13:00 PM

brothajahn: [blogs.ocweekly.com image 400x400]
full scorpion


What is that between the door and the windshield.  Is that Chip or Dale of the Rescue Rangers?
 
2013-08-15 04:20:56 PM
I blame these guys for raising the price of alcohol to levels beyond it's actual worth.

pics.myspew.com
 
2013-08-15 04:23:03 PM

TheWhoppah: phaseolus: TheWhoppah: / Texas is also near the top of the list of the number of miles driven drunk per driver... because we have long roads!


I would have guessed it was because it's not illegal to drive with open containers in the car ... or did y'all get around to fixing that?


In a car an open container is only allowed in the trunk.  In a truck it is only allowed behind the last seat.  That said, in an SUV it may be possible to cap it and throw it behind the back seat as you are pulling over if you are sober enough to manage.  In Austin, our elected District Attorney was arrested with a .239 BAC and an open container of vodak in the cab of her car.  She did a few weeks in the county jail but is still the DA.  She can't exactly resign and allow Rick Perry (oops) to appoint her replacement.  Last Sunday afternoon one of her Assistant District Attorneys rear-ended a mini cooper and hurt a couple of ladies.  He hasn't resigned yet either.


After Lehmberg, you would think the whole DA's office would have set Yellow Checker on speed-dial. Especially with Perry breathing down their neck. Dumbass.

I second that the article seems to be using MADD/NSTA math (if there is a bottle of rubbing alcohol in the trunk during when you jump a curb, it's an "alcohol related collision"). And how much in tax revenue is collected off the importing, licencing, distributing, retailing, wholesaling, & serving of booze? The Feds, State, County, & City all usually get a slice or three.
 
2013-08-15 04:24:33 PM
Let's more strictly regulate the sale of alcohol to adults of legal age, brilliant idea given what a smashing success Prohibition turned out to be.
 
2013-08-15 04:24:50 PM
I'll drink to that!
 
2013-08-15 04:26:22 PM
*NTSB*

It's already happy hour here.
 
2013-08-15 04:26:51 PM
Also, Pennsylvania's draconian (not to mention literally Quaker) laws on the sale of alcohol have completely eliminated anything resembling "alcohol related" problems statewide.  Let's do more of that!
 
2013-08-15 04:29:12 PM
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2013-08-15 04:31:05 PM
Hey, here is an idea that has always worked in the past. Just make a new tax to deal with this. I'm sure that you could use the money for something very important, like studies on how cow farts affect the ozone, and 500 dollar hammers.
 
2013-08-15 04:51:17 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: Hey, here is an idea that has always worked in the past. Just make a new tax to deal with this. I'm sure that you could use the money for something very important, like studies on how cow farts affect the ozone, and 500 dollar hammers.


I don't think cow farts affect 500 dollar hammers at all.

/Yeah, I know there's a comma in there -- why you wanna ruin my joke.
 
2013-08-15 04:52:36 PM
Maybe if your damn beer had a discernible alcohol content you wouldn't have to buy/drink so many of 'em to get a glow on?
 
2013-08-15 04:52:55 PM
wait...we have a bar tab?  I need in on this...
 
2013-08-15 04:54:08 PM

MemeSlave: Is it me or is the girl in the article hot?


hard to tell since there is no pic of you...
 
2013-08-15 04:55:52 PM

PrivateCaboose: DC, always topping out the list. Good job, fellow yuppies lobbyists!


When my wife worked for a Representative, we were having drinks pushed in to our hands at parties twice a week.
 
2013-08-15 04:59:43 PM
Hangover Song.
 
2013-08-15 05:06:00 PM

TheWhoppah: Hell yes!  Texans miss the least amount of work due to excess drinking!  This is either because we git our assess to work even with a nasty hangover or because the quality of the work we do sober is not that much better than being dwunk at work.

[www.tshirtwatch.com image 400x506]

/ Texas is also near the top of the list of the number of miles driven drunk per driver... because we have long roads!


Wait, Texans work? I thought you had Mexico come over and do that for you, so you could spend all of your time herpy-derping about libruls?
 
2013-08-15 05:08:17 PM
Iowa had the lowest ($622).

So, you don't drink as much on meth?
 
2013-08-15 05:09:10 PM
223.5 bn/year, huh?

So 300 million in the US, about 35-40 million of those of below drinking age or the adult age where they drink anyway.

Comes out to about 850$/person*yr, or about 70$/month per adult.

... and now you know why they put it in the stupid sensational units that are meaningless to most people: put in real, meaningful terms, what the CDC just told us is that the US can completely pay for the secondary costs of all of its partying, binge-drinking, and general excess by eating in instead of at a restaurant once a week, or not eating out twice a month and skipping the popcorn at the movie theater.  This shiat's really cheap, is what I'm getting at here, even when I'm fark-you old and retired with no income I'll totally chip in my 70 a month to cure all liver disease and other alcohol-related issues in the entire nation.

Seriously, I pay much more than that in the portion of my taxes that funds things that directly harm me and/or have no benefit to anyone, like the TSA, two wars in the middle east, and a bunch of fighter jets that the military literally doesn't want and has told congress they'll mothball immediately.  You think I'm going to balk at the shared (and it is shared, that's how health insurance works) that helps people that share activities that I enjoy and are better with company?  fark no.  Hell, look at my bar tab, I'm barely post-poverty line and it's probably higher than that too.
 
2013-08-15 05:12:25 PM
Binge drinking -- defined as when men drink more than five drinks and women drink more than four drinks in two hours...

Bwahahahahahahahaha!
 
2013-08-15 05:14:17 PM

Hoblit: How in the world are these monetary statistics 'determined'. The article basically sites other articles for these numbers. I fail to see how they determine that whatever costs incurred were directly related to alcohol beyond a shadow of a doubt.


They are always made up horseshiat.

They'll do things like figure 'this many people come in an hour late' and then turn it into a number based on labor productivity stats. Of course it's bullshiat because people just move their work around and do it later.
 
2013-08-15 05:16:19 PM
Or another way to look at it, the cost per adult is 17 bucks a week, i.e. if you're minimum wage you're working two extra hours a week to cure all alcohol-related problems forever and if you're around the national average you working about an hour (median hourly) or about 40 minutes (mean hourly) to cover it.  Compare that to the number of hours a week improved by the presence of alcohol.

Bet you're damn well coming out ahead even if you're damn near a teetotaler.
 
2013-08-15 05:17:45 PM

Texian: After Lehmberg, you would think the whole DA's office would have set Yellow Checker on speed-dial.


If you've been in Austin long enough you probably had that Mr. Gatti's pizza jingle drilled into your skull:
   Dial 459-2222 and get a Mr. Gatti's pizza delivered  Real cheese,   Real hot  Real taste is what we got ...

Like the guys in that linked video, most Austinites can sing that jingle when they are shiatfaced dwunk.

To call Yellow Cab, just swap the 9 and 2.... Dial 452-9999 to get a gaddamned Yellow Cab for your drunk ass.

// jot it down!
 
2013-08-15 05:20:30 PM
A buddy of mine works for a bar. He gave me the worst combination of words. "Just put it on my tab" That was the last time I had a hangover.
 
2013-08-15 05:28:49 PM
Yeah, higher alcohol taxes.  That doesn't disportionately impact the poor, who may be looking for some sort of legal escapism.

Maybe they could look into why so many people want a "short" break from reality.
 
2013-08-15 05:33:38 PM

berylman: Binge-drinking: 5 drinks in less than 2 hours
Power binge-drinking: half a fifth in 2 minutes (don't do this!)


fark you, I'll show you I can drink vodka like water!  How dare you question my masculinity?!
 
2013-08-15 05:39:09 PM

TheWhoppah: Texian: After Lehmberg, you would think the whole DA's office would have set Yellow Checker on speed-dial.

If you've been in Austin long enough you probably had that Mr. Gatti's pizza jingle drilled into your skull:
   Dial 459-2222 and get a Mr. Gatti's pizza delivered  Real cheese,   Real hot  Real taste is what we got ...

Like the guys in that linked video, most Austinites can sing that jingle when they are shiatfaced dwunk.

To call Yellow Cab, just swap the 9 and 2.... Dial 452-9999 to get a gaddamned Yellow Cab for your drunk ass.

// jot it down!


Ha! I used to tell my regulars exactly that jingle and number swap. It floored me how few could make the association after 8pm. Like those brain cells had magically dissappeared, contrary to the Claven Theorum of slowest brain cells are the first to die.
 
2013-08-15 05:39:59 PM
Ha! I used to tell my regulars exactly that jingle and number swap. It floored me how few could make the association after 8pm. Like those brain cells had magically dissappeared, contrary to the Claven Theorum of slowest brain cells are the first to die.
 
2013-08-15 05:42:09 PM
Oops. Sorry for the double post. Like I said, it's already happy hour out here by (what's left of) Lake Travis.
 
2013-08-15 05:48:13 PM

vernonFL: A 2012 CDC study estimated about 38 million U.S. adults, or about one in six people, are binge drinkers, with a reported average of four episodes per month.

I call those episodes "weekends".


Good one. The wife and I had a weekend last night. $1 bottle beer night at Raceway Pub.
 
2013-08-15 06:03:33 PM
double-shot of over-proof rum in a frosty glass of lime-aid?
I'll down 4-5 of those in two hours, easy.
Still wouldn't call it a binge; that's a Sunday afternoon "monitoring" the bbq.
 
2013-08-15 06:12:14 PM

Texian: TheWhoppah: Texian: After Lehmberg, you would think the whole DA's office would have set Yellow Checker on speed-dial.

If you've been in Austin long enough you probably had that Mr. Gatti's pizza jingle drilled into your skull:
   Dial 459-2222 and get a Mr. Gatti's pizza delivered  Real cheese,   Real hot  Real taste is what we got ...

Like the guys in that linked video, most Austinites can sing that jingle when they are shiatfaced dwunk.

To call Yellow Cab, just swap the 9 and 2.... Dial 452-9999 to get a gaddamned Yellow Cab for your drunk ass.

// jot it down!

Ha! I used to tell my regulars exactly that jingle and number swap. It floored me how few could make the association after 8pm. Like those brain cells had magically dissappeared, contrary to the Claven Theorum of slowest brain cells are the first to die.


i lived in austin and i don't remember that jingle at all.

either way, i would just ask the bartender to call me a cab... while it may have been a nuisance, i tipped well as a thanks/apology.

/ plus, i think you could time a noticeable difference between calling for a cab yourself or having a bar/hotel/restaurant call a cab for you
// in new orleans, during festival time (ie, all time other than the summer, and sometimes in the summer) it is not unlikely that all the cab numbers are busy at peak cab getting time.  I have like 3-5 taxi numbers on my phone, and all will fail.  but, if i can get a bartender to call for me, it's instant success.
/// i used to live down the street from a hari krishna center, and my neighbors were all cab drivers.  back then, i could get a cab anytime.  and it was awesome.  just go over to my neighbor's house, and have their personal phone number.
 
2013-08-15 06:13:24 PM
4 sessions per month?


lol wat?
 
2013-08-15 06:21:47 PM
I've been at 1 drink per day for the past 6 years for health reasons, but it just means I buy better booze.
 
2013-08-15 06:30:08 PM

pute kisses like a man: i lived in austin and i don't remember that jingle at all.

either way, i would just ask the bartender to call me a cab... while it may have been a nuisance, i tipped well as a thanks/apology.

/ plus, i think you could time a noticeable difference between calling for a cab yourself or having a bar/hotel/restaurant call a cab for you


4-5-Niiine-Twenty-twoooo, twenty-twoooo...Marcia Ball. Mid 80's to early 2000's. Permanently embedded in my ear-worm library.

In Austin, unless you are on Dirty 6th, expect at least a 30 minute wait for a cab, civilian or bar staff. But hey! Extra shot time if the bartender knows you have a cab coming (and you tip well).
 
2013-08-15 06:51:02 PM

PrivateCaboose: DC, always topping out the list. Good job, fellow yuppies!


If nothing else, explains a lot.
 
2013-08-15 06:59:45 PM

mbillips: kindms: MrBallou: "Binge drinking -- defined as when men drink more than five drinks and women drink more than four drinks in two hours"

or what Farkers consider "a light lunch".

1 drink every 20 or 30 minutes is binge drinking ?

I thought the 1 drink every 1/2 hour or so was responsible drinking.

The military standard is moving toward the Air Force standard, which is no more than one drink per hour, no more than three drinks per day. Also known as WTP drinking (what's the point?). Your liver metabolizes one drink per hour, more or less, so anything above one an hour after the first two is pushing you into DUI/binge territory.


Welp, otherwise your liver is just sitting there doing nothing. It's good to exercise your muscles, and the liver is one of your bigger muscles.
 
2013-08-15 07:53:07 PM
lh3.googleusercontent.com
Back in MY day, we knew how to binge drink.
 
2013-08-15 08:01:28 PM

Long Duck Dong's Aww-toe-moe-beeel: [lh3.googleusercontent.com image 460x276]
Back in MY day, we knew how to binge drink.


One of my favorite movies. I especially love how Cary Grant pretends to put up a fight in that scene.

/ must have used real booze
 
2013-08-15 08:05:47 PM

Nick Nostril: mbillips: kindms: MrBallou: "Binge drinking -- defined as when men drink more than five drinks and women drink more than four drinks in two hours"

or what Farkers consider "a light lunch".

1 drink every 20 or 30 minutes is binge drinking ?

I thought the 1 drink every 1/2 hour or so was responsible drinking.

The military standard is moving toward the Air Force standard, which is no more than one drink per hour, no more than three drinks per day. Also known as WTP drinking (what's the point?). Your liver metabolizes one drink per hour, more or less, so anything above one an hour after the first two is pushing you into DUI/binge territory.

Welp, otherwise your liver is just sitting there doing nothing. It's good to exercise your muscles, and the liver is one of your bigger muscles.


The liver is evil and must be punished.

And besides, one drink isn't really well defined.  A stadium cup mostly filled with SoCo (and a splash of OJ) is one drink, as far as I'm concerned.
 
2013-08-15 08:12:00 PM
So do we want socialized medicine to take care of them or not?
 
2013-08-15 09:33:47 PM

ronaprhys: Nick Nostril: mbillips: kindms: MrBallou: "Binge drinking -- defined as when men drink more than five drinks and women drink more than four drinks in two hours"

or what Farkers consider "a light lunch".

1 drink every 20 or 30 minutes is binge drinking ?

I thought the 1 drink every 1/2 hour or so was responsible drinking.

The military standard is moving toward the Air Force standard, which is no more than one drink per hour, no more than three drinks per day. Also known as WTP drinking (what's the point?). Your liver metabolizes one drink per hour, more or less, so anything above one an hour after the first two is pushing you into DUI/binge territory.

Welp, otherwise your liver is just sitting there doing nothing. It's good to exercise your muscles, and the liver is one of your bigger muscles.

The liver is evil and must be punished.

And besides, one drink isn't really well defined.  A stadium cup mostly filled with SoCo (and a splash of OJ) is one drink, as far as I'm concerned.


Multiply ABV by fluid ounces. 60=one drink.

/not quite a pro, but I know my limits and how to get there.
 
2013-08-15 10:51:11 PM
Bad statistics and deceptive definitions propping up weak arguments. It makes me Madd to think of it.
 
2013-08-15 11:50:22 PM
The state that absorbed the least alcohol costs was North Dakota, coming in at $420 million. The most costs were found in California, totaling nearly $32 billion.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-16 12:13:21 AM
Well Farkers, this is a little look at how government health care is going to work.

People who want to tell you how to live will come up with figures about how much your choices cost your neighbors and how much productivity your corporate masters lost from you. That's why things are socialized, it promotes your neighbors wanting to run your life. From this there will be all sorts of monitoring of your behavior and that of everyone else as well. You won't be able to choose simple things like having a beer. Your government will tell you when, where, and how much beer you may have.

Remember the company towns where industrialists or robber barons or whomever owned the place would have a staff to get into the business of every employee's life? Remember those? Well this desire didn't go away. It got rolled into government and has been slowly built. All the while people were convinced its a good thing. Not too much longer now. The net is nearly complete. Once it is complete all it will take is to close it, one little thing at a time. So slow you'll hardly notice. Just like you haven't noticed it so far.
 
2013-08-16 12:32:25 AM

leadmetal: Well Farkers, this is a little look at how government health care is going to work.

People who want to tell you how to live will come up with figures about how much your choices cost your neighbors and how much productivity your corporate masters lost from you. That's why things are socialized, it promotes your neighbors wanting to run your life. From this there will be all sorts of monitoring of your behavior and that of everyone else as well. You won't be able to choose simple things like having a beer. Your government will tell you when, where, and how much beer you may have.

Remember the company towns where industrialists or robber barons or whomever owned the place would have a staff to get into the business of every employee's life? Remember those? Well this desire didn't go away. It got rolled into government and has been slowly built. All the while people were convinced its a good thing. Not too much longer now. The net is nearly complete. Once it is complete all it will take is to close it, one little thing at a time. So slow you'll hardly notice. Just like you haven't noticed it so far.


Too derpy, did not read.

/stopped at "You won't be able to choose simple things like having a beer."
//Those same simple things are able to be chosen in countries that have actual affordable, state-provided or state-backed healthcare systems -- and REAL ones, not the pretend crap we've been packaged here that's so watered-down it will have almost no impact -- so your herp derp clearly flies in the face of reality
 
2013-08-16 02:02:09 AM

pute kisses like a man: in new orleans, during festival time (ie, all time other than the summer, and sometimes in the summer) it is not unlikely that all the cab numbers are busy at peak cab getting time. I have like 3-5 taxi numbers on my phone, and all will fail. but, if i can get a bartender to call for me, it's instant success.


Lets just say, there's a *different* number they can call to United Cab.   ;)

And lets just say... if you get very friendly with a bartender, you can probably get that number.  ;)
 
2013-08-16 03:44:06 AM
Well when you define "Binge drinking" as having four drinks in a row then of course all these drinking statistics are going to look alarming.
 
2013-08-16 09:12:15 AM

gweilo8888: /stopped at "You won't be able to choose simple things like having a beer."
//Those same simple things are able to be chosen in countries that have actual affordable, state-provided or state-backed healthcare systems -- and REAL ones, not the pretend crap we've been packaged here that's so watered-down it will have almost no impact -- so your herp derp clearly flies in the face of reality


Open your mind.

Now open it a little further.

In most countries, you CAN'T choose simple things, like having a beer. Sure you can have an alcoholic beverage. What about those who don't like to drink? Yes, I am one of them. I used to smoke marijuana, but then had to make some hard choices based upon "legality" (translation: approval by politicians squarely in the pockets of the alcohol and pharmaceutical lobby.) If it were legal, I would smoke it. But it is not, so I do not. Only in a slim handful of countries do I really have a "choice". Nowhere does it have anything to do with "healthcare". It's all politics.
 
2013-08-16 09:14:55 AM
And while we're on the subject of Big Pharma, that's really a demonstration that the Robber barons have gone global. Americans are forced to subsidize pharmaceutical costs for the rest of the world, as evidenced by the disparity of prices.
 
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