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(SeattlePI)   Serial rapist experiences moment of clarity while examining his life choices: "I'm telling ya, it would be easier to just go buy prostitutes"   (seattlepi.com) divider line 89
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2013-08-15 12:22:19 PM
He should go down to Tacoma and buy himself some prostitutes then. Jeeze.
 
2013-08-15 01:29:02 PM
Prostitution is illegal....had that not been the case - who knows.
 
2013-08-15 01:30:21 PM
I thought rapists enjoyed taking by force or trickery.
 
2013-08-15 01:31:32 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Prostitution is illegal....had that not been the case - who knows.


So is rape.  And you have one more witness who wants you behind bars.

//unless you stiff the prostitute
//but yeah, legalization is probably good policy
 
2013-08-15 01:31:49 PM
If it flies, floats, farks, or fights back...
 
2013-08-15 01:32:22 PM

Fano: I thought rapists enjoyed taking by force or trickery.


Use counterfeit money then.
 
2013-08-15 01:34:51 PM

Arkanaut: Fark_Guy_Rob: Prostitution is illegal....had that not been the case - who knows.

So is rape.  And you have one more witness who wants you behind bars.

//unless you stiff the prostitute
//but yeah, legalization is probably good policy


Legalize rape? What's wrong with you?
 
2013-08-15 01:36:20 PM
Heres the problem, from the article:

"Previously sentenced to two years in prison for raping a teen runaway..."

/Really?!?
 
2013-08-15 01:38:13 PM
Pay her with these ...

s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-08-15 01:38:29 PM

Arkanaut: Fark_Guy_Rob: Prostitution is illegal....had that not been the case - who knows.

So is rape.  And you have one more witness who wants you behind bars.

//unless you stiff the prostitute
//but yeah, legalization is probably good policy


If you stiff the prostitute, then nobody paid for sex and no crime has been committed, right?
 
2013-08-15 01:39:18 PM

Arkanaut: Fark_Guy_Rob: Prostitution is illegal....had that not been the case - who knows.

So is rape.  And you have one more witness who wants you behind bars.

//unless you stiff the prostitute
//but yeah, legalization is probably good policy


There are smart people and studies on both sides of the issue - but there is certainly a compelling argument that legalizing prostitution would lead to *less* rape.

Kirby R. Cundiff, PhD, Associate Professor of Finance at Northeastern State University, wrote the Apr. 8, 2004 working paper entitled "Prostitution and Sex Crimes," for the Independent Institute, that stated:
"It is estimated that if prostitution were legalized in the United States, the rape rate would decrease by roughly 25% for a decrease of approximately 25,000 rapes per year.......[T]he analysis seems to support the hypothesis that the rape rate could be lowered if prostitution was more readily available. This would be accomplished in most countries by its legalization."

A study conducted in Queensland... show[ed] a 149% increase in the rate of rape when legal brothels were closed in 1959, while other offenses against the person by males increased only 49%

So, while it is not justification for their actions, there exists some segment of the population that would be okay paying for a hooker instead of raping someone.  This guy's comment suggests that, had it been an available option, he might have gotten a hooker.
 
2013-08-15 01:39:18 PM
You don't buy prostitutes.

You rent them.
 
2013-08-15 01:42:36 PM
Just terminate this waste of flesh.
 
2013-08-15 01:43:12 PM

Bondith: You don't buy prostitutes.

You rent them.


You can buy them, it just costs more....
 
2013-08-15 01:44:36 PM
Nah, wouldn't work....he'd just rape the prostitutes.

dv-ous: Arkanaut: Fark_Guy_Rob:
//unless you stiff the prostitute
//but yeah, legalization is probably good policy

If you stiff the prostitute, then nobody paid for sex and no crime has been committed, right?


huh huh huh....stiff the prostitute....huh huh huh
 
2013-08-15 01:45:09 PM
Depends on which feminist you talk to.  To some of them, prostitution equals rape.  (see link before you chime in with that stupid "straw feminist" BS)
 
2013-08-15 01:46:33 PM
No one else read the article?

"Previously sentenced to two years in prison for raping a teen runaway, Jeremy D. Ondracek is now alleged to have raped a disabled woman after following her home from a North Seattle bus stop. "

/ Castration
// Double castration

www.replikultes.net
 
2013-08-15 01:48:46 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Bondith: You don't buy prostitutes.

You rent them.

You can buy them, it just costs more....


I'd like to read the contract on the transaction.
 
2013-08-15 01:49:00 PM
i think this should be legalized before drugs, pronto.

I mean if "a woman's body is her own" stands up in court wrt killing an unborn child, SURELY, it should apply when it comes to earning money to feed EXISTING children...
 
2013-08-15 01:50:37 PM

Fano: I thought rapists enjoyed taking by force or trickery.


There's a line of rhetoric which states that rape is about power, not sex. I tend to think it's about both.

/that's an oversimplification, of course
 
2013-08-15 01:51:05 PM
So is getting a prostitute cheaper than a lawyer? Guess it depends on the lawyer and the hooker.
 
2013-08-15 01:51:28 PM
Eh, it depends on the prostitute.
 
2013-08-15 01:51:34 PM
I thought countries with legalized prostitution had less rape?

Anyone got any citations.  It's not something I feel comfortable googling.
 
2013-08-15 01:56:22 PM

r1niceboy: Fark_Guy_Rob: Bondith: You don't buy prostitutes.

You rent them.

You can buy them, it just costs more....

I'd like to read the contract on the transaction.


Here you go: Link
 
2013-08-15 01:57:02 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Bondith: You don't buy prostitutes.

You rent them.

You can buy them, it just costs more....


Usually a deposit of a diamond ring is required.
 
2013-08-15 01:57:25 PM

groppet: So is getting a prostitute cheaper than a lawyer? Guess it depends on the lawyer and the hooker.


They'll both screw you and take your money.

HEY-OH

or something
 
2013-08-15 01:57:38 PM
I thought rape had nothing to do with sex?
 
2013-08-15 01:57:45 PM
Washington DC politicians come from wealthy powerful families. They easily afford $5,000 'escorts'. So fark you, working man.

/vote every one of those bastards out of office.
 
2013-08-15 01:58:10 PM

big pig peaches: Arkanaut: Fark_Guy_Rob: Prostitution is illegal....had that not been the case - who knows.

So is rape.  And you have one more witness who wants you behind bars.

//unless you stiff the prostitute
//but yeah, legalization is probably good policy

Legalize rape? What's wrong with you?


What? I thought they had ways of shutting it down!
 
2013-08-15 01:58:15 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Arkanaut: Fark_Guy_Rob: Prostitution is illegal....had that not been the case - who knows.

So is rape.  And you have one more witness who wants you behind bars.

//unless you stiff the prostitute
//but yeah, legalization is probably good policy

There are smart people and studies on both sides of the issue - but there is certainly a compelling argument that legalizing prostitution would lead to *less* rape.

Kirby R. Cundiff, PhD, Associate Professor of Finance at Northeastern State University, wrote the Apr. 8, 2004 working paper entitled "Prostitution and Sex Crimes," for the Independent Institute, that stated:"It is estimated that if prostitution were legalized in the United States, the rape rate would decrease by roughly 25% for a decrease of approximately 25,000 rapes per year.......[T]he analysis seems to support the hypothesis that the rape rate could be lowered if prostitution was more readily available. This would be accomplished in most countries by its legalization."
A study conducted in Queensland... show[ed] a 149% increase in the rate of rape when legal brothels were closed in 1959, while other offenses against the person by males increased only 49%

So, while it is not justification for their actions, there exists some segment of the population that would be okay paying for a hooker instead of raping someone.  This guy's comment suggests that, had it been an available option, he might have gotten a hooker.


But how was it NOT an available option?  They are both illegal, and the penalties for rape are much higher.  This asshole just didn't want to pay, and is sorry that he was caught.
 
2013-08-15 01:58:59 PM
That should be his last line when he writes his great American novel.
 
2013-08-15 01:59:56 PM
it would be easier to just go buy prostitutes

For $200?

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-15 02:01:36 PM

groppet: So is getting a prostitute cheaper than a lawyer? Guess it depends on the lawyer and the hooker.


Either way, you're going to get screwed.
 
2013-08-15 02:02:17 PM

xanadian: groppet: So is getting a prostitute cheaper than a lawyer? Guess it depends on the lawyer and the hooker.

They'll both screw you and take your money.

HEY-OH

or something


Except when I leave the hotel room I am feeling much more relaxed then when I leave my attorney's office
 
2013-08-15 02:03:01 PM
"I picked the wrong person, I guess, again," Ondracek told police, according to charging papers. "I'm telling ya, it would be easier to just go buy prostitutes."
By "again," Ondracek was apparently referring to his prior rape conviction stemming from an April 2012 sexual assault.
In that case, Ondracek ultimately pleaded guilty to third-degree rape following allegations that he raped a 16-year-old girl in a Seattle alley. Ondracek, who was alleged to have choked the girl during the rape, was ultimately sentenced to 22 months in state prison following a plea deal with prosecutors.

Writing the court at the time, Ondracek's attorney contended the teen's account was unreliable and that her client pleaded guilty against her advice. Describing Ondracek as mentally ill, the public defender suggested the teen may have embellished her story to avoid trouble with her father."

I think I see the problem here. How in the hell was this psycho not in prison for choking and raping a 16-year-old a year before? Plea deals should be for non-violent offenders, not rapists. WTF?  o_O
 
2013-08-15 02:05:38 PM
By all accounts that guy is mentally ill. The the US court system does not provide treatment for the mentally ill. Maybe we should go whole hog and create Predator Island, offenders are dropped off to fend for themselves. Harsh? Ok, they can have a parachute.
 
2013-08-15 02:06:06 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: So, while it is not justification for their actions, there exists some segment of the population that would be okay paying for a hooker instead of raping someone.  This guy's comment suggests that, had it been an available option, he might have gotten a hooker.


It being illegal doesn't mean its not available. I mean, come ON. It's much harder to rape someone than it is to go on CL personals.

I know some people who have gone the hooker route, and none of them are the type to rape someone. That's a whole different ball game. This guy is just making excuses.
 
2013-08-15 02:10:41 PM
I'm not sure this is the kind of guy that we want to base policy on.
 
2013-08-15 02:11:47 PM
oh come on she responded to me when I said hi to her on the bus, that means she consented to violent choking sex! I should've picked up a hooker and dumped her in a ditch, but that would have been too much effort ... [sarcasm]
 
2013-08-15 02:16:26 PM

dv-ous: Arkanaut: Fark_Guy_Rob: Prostitution is illegal....had that not been the case - who knows.

So is rape.  And you have one more witness who wants you behind bars.

//unless you stiff the prostitute
//but yeah, legalization is probably good policy

If you stiff the prostitute, then nobody paid for sex and no crime has been committed, right?


Theft of services.
 
2013-08-15 02:16:27 PM
as a feminist and a mild civil libertarian, I think adult should be free to sell sexual services legally. However, I'm pretty sure the second prostitution was legalized it would be turned into some corporate B.S. by which CEO men would be taking the lion's share of the money just as if it were old-fashioned street pimpery.

In Egalitarian land, prostitutes have to be sole proprietors and 18 or older. Tax it, regulate it, health checks, everything.
 
2013-08-15 02:17:00 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Arkanaut: Fark_Guy_Rob: Prostitution is illegal....had that not been the case - who knows.

So is rape.  And you have one more witness who wants you behind bars.

//unless you stiff the prostitute
//but yeah, legalization is probably good policy

There are smart people and studies on both sides of the issue - but there is certainly a compelling argument that legalizing prostitution would lead to *less* rape.

Kirby R. Cundiff, PhD, Associate Professor of Finance at Northeastern State University, wrote the Apr. 8, 2004 working paper entitled "Prostitution and Sex Crimes," for the Independent Institute, that stated:"It is estimated that if prostitution were legalized in the United States, the rape rate would decrease by roughly 25% for a decrease of approximately 25,000 rapes per year.......[T]he analysis seems to support the hypothesis that the rape rate could be lowered if prostitution was more readily available. This would be accomplished in most countries by its legalization."
A study conducted in Queensland... show[ed] a 149% increase in the rate of rape when legal brothels were closed in 1959, while other offenses against the person by males increased only 49%

So, while it is not justification for their actions, there exists some segment of the population that would be okay paying for a hooker instead of raping someone.  This guy's comment suggests that, had it been an available option, he might have gotten a hooker.


In hindsight, while looking at a very lengthy prison sentence and sex offender pro status, I'm very sure ol boy can honestly say he should have had a illegal V-8, instead. In the meantime, women and friends of women can now rest a little easier. His victim pattern was getting close to where my g/f works. I recall warning her about someone raping women near her work place. He can rot for all I care and I don't believe a word he says, dude had too many victims for that excuse to fly.
 
2013-08-15 02:17:32 PM
But you do less time for rape than prostitution.
 
2013-08-15 02:18:12 PM

cc_rider: "I picked the wrong person, I guess, again," Ondracek told police, according to charging papers. "I'm telling ya, it would be easier to just go buy prostitutes."
By "again," Ondracek was apparently referring to his prior rape conviction stemming from an April 2012 sexual assault.
In that case, Ondracek ultimately pleaded guilty to third-degree rape following allegations that he raped a 16-year-old girl in a Seattle alley. Ondracek, who was alleged to have choked the girl during the rape, was ultimately sentenced to 22 months in state prison following a plea deal with prosecutors.
Writing the court at the time, Ondracek's attorney contended the teen's account was unreliable and that her client pleaded guilty against her advice. Describing Ondracek as mentally ill, the public defender suggested the teen may have embellished her story to avoid trouble with her father."

I think I see the problem here. How in the hell was this psycho not in prison for choking and raping a 16-year-old a year before? Plea deals should be for non-violent offenders, not rapists. WTF?  o_O


This is purely speculation/guessing, but...

It could have been that there wasn't enough evidence to convict him, so by convincing him to plea guilty for a deal, they could actually get *some* justice, rather than none.

/Of course, there's a whole lot of other issues with plea deals, but that's neither here nor there.
 
2013-08-15 02:18:27 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Arkanaut: Fark_Guy_Rob: Prostitution is illegal....had that not been the case - who knows.

So is rape.  And you have one more witness who wants you behind bars.

//unless you stiff the prostitute
//but yeah, legalization is probably good policy

There are smart people and studies on both sides of the issue - but there is certainly a compelling argument that legalizing prostitution would lead to *less* rape.

Kirby R. Cundiff, PhD, Associate Professor of Finance at Northeastern State University, wrote the Apr. 8, 2004 working paper entitled "Prostitution and Sex Crimes," for the Independent Institute, that stated:"It is estimated that if prostitution were legalized in the United States, the rape rate would decrease by roughly 25% for a decrease of approximately 25,000 rapes per year.......[T]he analysis seems to support the hypothesis that the rape rate could be lowered if prostitution was more readily available. This would be accomplished in most countries by its legalization."
A study conducted in Queensland... show[ed] a 149% increase in the rate of rape when legal brothels were closed in 1959, while other offenses against the person by males increased only 49%

So, while it is not justification for their actions, there exists some segment of the population that would be okay paying for a hooker instead of raping someone.  This guy's comment suggests that, had it been an available option, he might have gotten a hooker.


Yeah, but it's usually NOT ok to choke prostitutes either.

I guess it was easy to say the stoner 16 year old had it coming, but not the crippled woman.

I hope they stop letting this guy out.
 
2013-08-15 02:21:57 PM

dv-ous: Arkanaut: Fark_Guy_Rob: Prostitution is illegal....had that not been the case - who knows.

So is rape.  And you have one more witness who wants you behind bars.

//unless you stiff the prostitute
//but yeah, legalization is probably good policy

If you stiff the prostitute, then nobody paid for sex and no crime has been committed, right?


Well, she expected to be paid, so she's still guilty. Like if I "fenced" something I legally own.
 
2013-08-15 02:28:00 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Prostitution is illegal....had that not been the case - who knows.


This!  Is what I came here to say.
 
2013-08-15 02:29:22 PM

Lucidz: i think this should be legalized before drugs, pronto.

I mean if "a woman's body is her own" stands up in court wrt killing an unborn child, SURELY, it should apply when it comes to earning money to feed EXISTING children...


That's why where I live selling it IS legal,  buying it however i'snt.

/evil isn't it?
 
2013-08-15 02:30:46 PM
FTA: "I picked the wrong person, I guess, again," Ondracek told police, according to charging papers. "I'm telling ya, it would be easier to just go buy prostitutes."

That does not look like a moment of clarity, the guy is sorry to have picked someone who complained, again. The way he is talking, going to a prostitute, though easier, is not as appealing to him as raping someone.
 
2013-08-15 02:31:39 PM

jst3p: dv-ous: Arkanaut: Fark_Guy_Rob: Prostitution is illegal....had that not been the case - who knows.

So is rape.  And you have one more witness who wants you behind bars.

//unless you stiff the prostitute
//but yeah, legalization is probably good policy

If you stiff the prostitute, then nobody paid for sex and no crime has been committed, right?

Theft of services.


Well, if you're in Texas, you can legally shoot her.

So that's nice.
 
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