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(Slate)   Olympic Charter, as amended: "Olympism seeks to create a way of life based on the joy of effort, the educational value of good example and respect for universal fundamental ethical principles. Except when it's inconvenient"   (slate.com) divider line 66
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2013-08-15 01:42:21 PM
Mentalpatient87: "Why do so many people care so much what sexual orientation other people are?"

They don't.
It's just really easy to motivate struggling people into blaming/hating a minority that they are generally unfamiliar with.
Gypsies, Jews, Immigrants, Brown people, Gays -- whatever.

If you're not in power, blaming the outgroup gives you an instant political base.
If you're in power, it acts as a useful distraction away from your own inability/disinterest/incompetence in addressing actual problems.
 
2013-08-15 02:08:17 PM

ReverendJasen: Fark the IOC.  Fark Russia too.


so much this.  Russia should be stripped of the Olympics and barred from getting then again until they get their heads out of thier arse.

and no they can't have their bribes back either.

I will not be watching the games and just check medal counts online.
 
2013-08-15 02:14:01 PM
If the country doesn't want to officially boycott it, I think you might consider boycott watching it or buying stuff promoting it.
 
2013-08-15 02:23:35 PM

kbronsito: FIFA is going to be watching them. For now they've done the same BS song and dance as the IOC over the 2018 World Cup, saying that the event is not political and that russia can do whatever. But if there is a scandal at Sochi, i don't think FIFA would want to take a risk for the 2018 World Cup.


I don't think FIFA gives two shiats. By comparison, they make the IOC look noble and enlightened.
 
2013-08-15 02:28:15 PM

grimlock1972: ReverendJasen: Fark the IOC.  Fark Russia too.

so much this.  Russia should be stripped of the Olympics and barred from getting then again until they get their heads out of thier arse.

and no they can't have their bribes back either.

I will not be watching the games and just check medal counts online.


Considering that the Olympics end up costing a shiatton more money than they take in, I'd rather the IOC do nothing, they hold the Olympics in Sochi anyway, and the big countries bow out - Russia's stuck with the bill, they hold a huge event that's not attended by 60+% or more of the population they expected (coupled with a broadcast boycott - they shouldn't get the journos' money either), and Russia looks like bigger fools than the US did in 1980.
 
2013-08-15 02:46:59 PM
What if all the countries boycotted the Sochi games and the IOC and held a parallel games in a more tolerant country?  That way, they all get to compete, fark Russia up the yoohoo, and make the IOC bankrupt and/or forced to change management.

I guy can dream, right?
 
2013-08-15 03:42:29 PM
New US Olympic Uniforms:
www.polyvore.com
 
2013-08-15 04:50:14 PM

LemSkroob: Why do we insist on giving the Olympics to savages lately? Chiana, Russia, Brazil, etc...


discoverfarscape.com

/Move the Olympics to the Uncharted Territories
 
2013-08-15 05:02:29 PM
Just like the athletes shouldn't be openly hetero. Compete, and keep your bedroom affairs in the bedroom.
 
2013-08-15 05:32:02 PM

ReverendJynxed: Just like the athletes shouldn't be openly hetero. Compete, and keep your bedroom affairs in the bedroom.


If some journalist asks an athlete "are you gay?" and that person says "Yes", technically they can be arrested. If  they say "no", they can't. Heck, the law is so sweeping that they could be arrested for saying "that's nobody's business" because they failed to condemn homosexuality.

Or if somebody is in a bar and a friend asks "do you think <member of opposite sex> is attractive?" -- no problem to answer honestly. If the question is "do you think <member of same sex> is attractive?" the friend has to choose between lying and potential arrest.

And if some band of Russian thugs is beating somebody up for being gay and you intervene, perhaps saying "leave him alone! he's done nothing wrong!" -- guess what? You just committed gay propaganda and you could be arrested.

So no, this is not about "bedroom affairs". This is not a law that forbids gay couples having wild sex in the gardens in Gorky Park. This is a law that forbids gay people from doing things that hetero people routinely taking for granted, such as holding hands, kissing each other goodbye, saying "he's hot!", or saying "what's wrong with being gay?".

So unless your position is that ALL displays, words or looks indicating sexual attraction or physical affection, whether hetero or homo, should be banned, perhaps an Iranian level of repression in public -- and I don't think it is -- you should really stop being disingenuous.

Because if we're honest here, I think we both now that your real position is that you wish you didn't have to know that gay people exist, but you're going to pretend otherwise by proposing a supposedly "egalitarian" situation which you know has not the remotest chance of happening.
 
2013-08-15 05:49:52 PM
OK, now it's seriously time to boycott the Olympics and its sponsors.
 
2013-08-15 06:31:46 PM

kbronsito: Even the white silver medalist (i think he was Canadian... to lazy to look up) was kicked off his own team and not allow to compete again for supporting what his fellow medalist did. That farker doesn't really get enough credit in that story but that single act of solidarity makes him a farking hero.


His name was Peter Norman. He was Australian and he was in on and totally okay with the other two doing it - apparently the black gloves were his idea. The thing was, Australia wasn't very progressive (we were still using the White Australia immigration policy at the time) and didn't appreciate having one of their own so publicly support equality. Norman got blacklisted from all Australian sporting events for it - they didn't even call him back to do a lap of honour at the Sydney Olympics like they did with all their other past medallists.
 
2013-08-15 09:23:08 PM
I am sorry, I am not a homo-phobe, what life style you choose is just that, your own choice, but the Olympics are TOTALLY GHEY. Cheating, drug use, influence peddling run rampant thru an organization so corrupt and money hungry they make the Russian Mob look altruistic.

"According to an IOC spokesperson, the Olympics aren't the place for "proactive political or religious demonstration," anyway.

Of course not, we all know the Olympics are a place for the parasitic corporations to make a several billion, in a few weeks and then abandon for a new host.
 
2013-08-16 10:00:43 AM
St Louis Olympics in 1904 -- Corrupt as fark.

Nothing has improved since.
 
2013-08-16 10:02:18 AM

JesusJuice: OK, now it's seriously time to boycott the Olympics and its sponsors.


I fixed that for you.
 
2013-08-16 10:46:48 AM

Shedim: kbronsito: Even the white silver medalist (i think he was Canadian... to lazy to look up) was kicked off his own team and not allow to compete again for supporting what his fellow medalist did. That farker doesn't really get enough credit in that story but that single act of solidarity makes him a farking hero.

His name was Peter Norman. He was Australian and he was in on and totally okay with the other two doing it - apparently the black gloves were his idea. The thing was, Australia wasn't very progressive (we were still using the White Australia immigration policy at the time) and didn't appreciate having one of their own so publicly support equality. Norman got blacklisted from all Australian sporting events for it - they didn't even call him back to do a lap of honour at the Sydney Olympics like they did with all their other past medallists.


Weren't the Sydney Olympics in 2000? I knew he was kept from competing... as a runner I would assume that would mean that they were mad at him for a couple of more olympics or about 8 years. But to hold a grudge more than 30 years, over the fact that this man did something that by the year 2000 every decent human agreed was the right thing; that's farked up.

I'm boycotting The Outback Steakhouse until Australia apologizes to him!
 
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