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(Slate)   Olympic Charter, as amended: "Olympism seeks to create a way of life based on the joy of effort, the educational value of good example and respect for universal fundamental ethical principles. Except when it's inconvenient"   (slate.com) divider line 66
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2013-08-15 07:23:10 AM  
When and where are they going to have the next steroid championship?
 
2013-08-15 07:24:58 AM  
Obvious tag taken prisoner in China?
 
2013-08-15 07:27:22 AM  
Fark the IOC.  Fark Russia too.
 
2013-08-15 07:33:20 AM  
Why do so many people care so much what sexual orientation other people are?
 
2013-08-15 07:36:51 AM  
Why do we insist on giving the Olympics to savages lately? Chiana, Russia, Brazil, etc...
 
2013-08-15 07:46:31 AM  

LemSkroob: Why do we insist on giving the Olympics to savages lately? Chiana, Russia, Brazil, etc...


They may be savages... But have you seen their growth figures lately?
 
2013-08-15 07:49:35 AM  
When I was younger I could have been called anti-gay.  It was a dark point in my past that I am ashamed of. I am thankful that my God (don't flame me please) has opened my heart to show me how wrong I was how petty I was being and how un-Christian I was.  Since I have changed I see the incredible wealth of diversity that all people give to the human condition and I love them all.  Sometimes it is not easy.  But thank God I have given up my draconian views on humanity.
I love you all Farkers no matter who you are.
 
2013-08-15 07:53:39 AM  

Rose McGowan Loveslave: When I was younger I could have been called anti-gay.  It was a dark point in my past that I am ashamed of. I am thankful that my God (don't flame me please) has opened my heart to show me how wrong I was how petty I was being and how un-Christian I was.  Since I have changed I see the incredible wealth of diversity that all people give to the human condition and I love them all.  Sometimes it is not easy.  But thank God I have given up my draconian views on humanity.
I love you all Farkers no matter who you are.


That's one of the most Christian posts I've ever read on this site. Thanks, dude.
 
2013-08-15 08:00:16 AM  

KatjaMouse: Rose McGowan Loveslave: When I was younger I could have been called anti-gay.  It was a dark point in my past that I am ashamed of. I am thankful that my God (don't flame me please) has opened my heart to show me how wrong I was how petty I was being and how un-Christian I was.  Since I have changed I see the incredible wealth of diversity that all people give to the human condition and I love them all.  Sometimes it is not easy.  But thank God I have given up my draconian views on humanity.
I love you all Farkers no matter who you are.

That's one of the most Christian posts I've ever read on this site. Thanks, dude.



I think of "un-Christian" as a loving tolerant person, and Christians who I have met and seen on the news as dark hateful people.

Westboro Baptist Church being the most Christian people I've ever seen.

I guess its all about your perspective. When anyone can call themselves a Christian, and the most vile are the most vocal, it is inevitable that they will give your religion a bad name (same with other religions). Maybe you need to rename yourselves to reflect the difference.
 
2013-08-15 08:00:52 AM  
So even the UNITED FARKING STATES OF AMERICA is more socially advanced than the IOC.

Big shock.
 
2013-08-15 08:01:59 AM  
LemSkroob: Why do we insist on giving the Olympics to savages lately? Chiana, Russia, Brazil, etc...

I am totally behind those olympics...
 
2013-08-15 08:03:06 AM  

Mentalpatient87: Why do so many people care so much what sexual orientation other people are?


Because penis.  And because Jesus.
 
2013-08-15 08:03:17 AM  
http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/14000000/Chiana-farscape-140149 10-1024-768.jpg

Well that image didn't post... Stupid mobile fark...
 
2013-08-15 08:04:56 AM  
The Black athletes that raised their fists in 1968 didn't get permission to do that either. Maybe instead of biatching that the IOC or Russia won't allow displays of 'gayness,' some gay athletes will show some courage and do it anyways. It's not really much of a protest if you get permission. That Russian journalist that came out on national tv has that kind of courage. He didn't farking ask for approval before doing what he did.

Now, the USA, UK and other countries who are going along w/ the IOC and Russia and refuse any talk of changing venues better be ready to go to bat for any athletes that get arrested, deported or otherwise harmed. And those countries citizens should hold their governments accountable for demanding the safety of all spectators or athletes that attend these games.
 
2013-08-15 08:07:28 AM  
The Olympics is about competition no matter the culture they are competing in. If a country is really unhappy with another culture that is hosting it, just don't go that year. Simple solutions.
 
2013-08-15 08:12:27 AM  
No singing the UVa Grand Old Song either...

We come from old Virgin-I-A,
Where all is bright and gay.
 
2013-08-15 08:46:25 AM  
I don't know how the voting structure of the IOC is set up, but there are plenty of countries out there who aren't interested in going to bat for gay rights.  It's far from a "universal" fundamental ethical principle.  I don't even know if you could get a pro-gay rights proclamation through Congress right now.
 
2013-08-15 09:06:58 AM  
Anybody surprised by the pusillanimity of the IOC hasn't been paying attention since at least 1936, possibly longer. Pusillanimity.
 
2013-08-15 09:07:38 AM  

ArkPanda: I don't know how the voting structure of the IOC is set up, but there are plenty of countries out there who aren't interested in going to bat for gay rights.  It's far from a "universal" fundamental ethical principle.  I don't even know if you could get a pro-gay rights proclamation through Congress right now.


That's because republicans are worse then anyone else when it comes to gay rights
 
2013-08-15 09:08:34 AM  
Weird, given the Olympics started in Greece.
 
2013-08-15 09:14:20 AM  
Have the rights already been purchased for corporations to declare their products the "Official [restaurant, car company, soft drink, rectal thermometer] of the 2014 Winter Olympics" yet?  And if so, have any of them made a statement as to their willingness to pump millions of dollars into funding an event which is becoming alarmingly clear that it will be a threatening environment to many of its participants?
 
2013-08-15 09:29:36 AM  
I pray that no-one decides to be the official ANYTHING of the '14 Olympics unless it's moved.  THAT would make the rich farks in the IOC (and NBC) take notice!

\Go George Takei!
 
2013-08-15 09:35:37 AM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-15 10:00:46 AM  
I thought we already knew the IOC was anti-gay.  Isn't that why they got rid of wrestling anyways?
 
2013-08-15 10:03:52 AM  

kbronsito: The Black athletes that raised their fists in 1968 didn't get permission to do that either. Maybe instead of biatching that the IOC or Russia won't allow displays of 'gayness,' some gay athletes will show some courage and do it anyways. It's not really much of a protest if you get permission. That Russian journalist that came out on national tv has that kind of courage. He didn't farking ask for approval before doing what he did.

Now, the USA, UK and other countries who are going along w/ the IOC and Russia and refuse any talk of changing venues better be ready to go to bat for any athletes that get arrested, deported or otherwise harmed. And those countries citizens should hold their governments accountable for demanding the safety of all spectators or athletes that attend these games.


They(Russia) have said that anyone displaying gay pride regalia/logos/etc will be subject to arrest and imprisonment... I don't know about you, but I don't ever want to see the inside of a russian prison.... It scares me, deeply

/
 
2013-08-15 10:08:18 AM  

THX 1138: Have the rights already been purchased for corporations to declare their products the "Official [restaurant, car company, soft drink, rectal thermometer] of the 2014 Winter Olympics" yet?  And if so, have any of them made a statement as to their willingness to pump millions of dollars into funding an event which is becoming alarmingly clear that it will be a threatening environment to many of its participants?


Not an exhaustive list, but a start:
Coca ColaAtoSDowGEMcDonald'sOmegaPanasonicP&GSamsungVisa
 
2013-08-15 10:09:40 AM  

THX 1138: Have the rights already been purchased for corporations to declare their products the "Official [restaurant, car company, soft drink, rectal thermometer] of the 2014 Winter Olympics" yet?  And if so, have any of them made a statement as to their willingness to pump millions of dollars into funding an event which is becoming alarmingly clear that it will be a threatening environment to many of its participants?


Should be interesting because some countries even have laws about doing business in anti-gay countries. I remember reading about how while homosexuality is illegal in Jamaica, the resorts have to allow homosexual couples if they want to be able to advertise in many european countries. I dont know the specifics of this though or how it could effect sponsorship of the games.
 
2013-08-15 10:09:45 AM  
Coca Cola
AtoS
Dow
GE
McDonald's
Omega
Panasonic
P&G
Samsung
Visa

bad html, bad
 
2013-08-15 10:12:30 AM  

HazMatt: Coca Cola
AtoS
Dow
GE
McDonald's
Omega
Panasonic
P&G
Samsung
Visa

bad html, bad


I should say that these are companies that do a lot of Olympic sponsorship. I do not know if they plan to continue to do so in light of Russia's anti-homosexual laws.
 
2013-08-15 10:16:24 AM  

kbronsito: Maybe instead of biatching that the IOC or Russia won't allow displays of 'gayness,' some gay athletes will show some courage and do it anyways. It's not really much of a protest if you get permission.


Even better, it would be great if a majority of athletes/countries simply boycotted this Olympics event.  It would be hilarious if only three countries showed up.
 
2013-08-15 10:27:36 AM  
here's what you do:

let the athletes go to the games if it's such a big deal to 'win' some contest...

But NOBODY attend the russian games.
No people, no tourists, no $
 
2013-08-15 10:32:57 AM  
The IOC will not move the 2014 games: not all the bribes have been collected yet. Those that have, have already been spent.

When apartheid was in force, South Africa was banned from international competition. Isn't it time the IOC did the same with obscurantist countries like Russia and Uganda ?
 
2013-08-15 10:41:21 AM  

mrEdude: here's what you do:

let the athletes go to the games if it's such a big deal to 'win' some contest...

But NOBODY attend the russian games.
No people, no tourists, no $


And nobody should watch them on TV. If sponsors waste their advertising budgets, maybe next time they will "encourage" the IOC to better scrutinize who gets awarded the games.  Sponsorship money is probably the only force in the world that can sway the corrupt bureaucrats at the IOC.
 
2013-08-15 10:48:23 AM  

ReverendJasen: kbronsito: Maybe instead of biatching that the IOC or Russia won't allow displays of 'gayness,' some gay athletes will show some courage and do it anyways. It's not really much of a protest if you get permission.

Even better, it would be great if a majority of athletes/countries simply boycotted this Olympics event.  It would be hilarious if only three countries showed up.


they can't possibly arrest every athlete from every delegation. if enough of them do a big fark you an raise their rainbow gloved fists during every medal ceremony, what is russia going to do? Are they willing to have a diplomatic incident with every country represented over their bullsh*t?

pkrzycki:
They(Russia) have said that anyone displaying gay pride regalia/logos/etc will be subject to arrest and imprisonment... I don't know about you, but I don't ever want to see the inside of a russian prison.... It scares me, deeply

Back in 1968, the black power salute athletes received a ton of death threats from angry crackers after they returned. For a black man in 1968, the threats of angy white people were probably even scarier than the inside of a russian prison. And if that wasn't bad enough... these athletes received no support from the average American or their Olympic delegation. They were kicked off the team and sent home early. Even the white silver medalist (i think he was Canadian... to lazy to look up) was kicked off his own team and not allow to compete again for supporting what his fellow medalist did. That farker doesn't really get enough credit in that story but that single act of solidarity makes him a farking hero. The difference today is that if a gay athlete is arrested by the ruskies or they demand that he'd be sent home early, I belive that millions of Americans would support having our goverment bring our entire team home and use whatever means to fark over the ruskies right back. And other countries would possibly follow.
 
Ant
2013-08-15 10:57:15 AM  

CokeBear: Maybe you need to rename yourselves to reflect the difference.


Jesusians (je-soo-shuns or hay-soo-shuns)

Sorry, but the word Christian conjures up negative associations for me and many people I know.
 
2013-08-15 10:59:19 AM  
Has Gretel Bergmann commented?
 
2013-08-15 11:18:59 AM  

kbronsito: Even the white silver medalist (i think he was Canadian... to lazy to look up) was kicked off his own team and not allow to compete again for supporting what his fellow medalist did. That farker doesn't really get enough credit in that story but that single act of solidarity makes him a farking hero.


Reminds me of a scene in '42'...when the shortstop walks over at the start of the game and puts his arm around Robinson for a long time....and said "I have family up in the stands and I want them to see the kind of person I really am"....people like that who stand up for those who need it...heroes.

I hope no one boycotts.  I hope that some athletes make a scene.  I hope Russia actually arrests them.  Why?  Because that's the one thing that will put the spotlight on them so brightly that they'll have to back down or face ridicule from the rest of the world...if not flat out threats to release the person.  I don't think they'll actually dare to arrest anyone....think of the scandal if a gay athlete or athletes are arrested mid-games.  You'd end up with a boycott mid-games by many athletes themselves until the person was released probably.  I can't imagine Russia wants that kind of attention.
 
2013-08-15 11:59:50 AM  
I like that the IOC is branching out into new fields of utter shiattiness.

They'd obviously pegged the needle on the complete and utter commercialization of amateur sport decades ago. They're the reigning world record holders for bribery and corruption. I think they pretty much set the bar for gratuitous legal power-grab in London--those farkers could have had the Queen in plastic handcuffs if she'd looked at them funny.

So I think it's good, for the long-term diversity of their Evil Motherfarker portfolio, that they're breaking out into social issues. Eventually the Olympic movement is going to collapse under the weight of its own titanic crapulence, and when that happens, it'd be a shame if they hadn't checked every box on the "how to be unbelievably shiatty" list.
 
2013-08-15 12:01:09 PM  

ReverendJasen: Fark the IOC.  Fark Russia too.


Boy, this x 10
 
2013-08-15 12:07:43 PM  
Call me when they add Ladies Nude Jello Wrestling.
 
2013-08-15 12:12:29 PM  

HazMatt: HazMatt: Coca Cola
AtoS
Dow
GE
McDonald's
Omega
Panasonic
P&G
Samsung
Visa

bad html, bad

I should say that these are companies that do a lot of Olympic sponsorship. I do not know if they plan to continue to do so in light of Russia's anti-homosexual laws.


I've written and asked them what they think of the political situation in Russia, I've received responses from Coke and Visa so far. Coke said, basically, "Hurr, we lurve the Olympics so merch!" without any attempt to answer the question.

Visa actually gave a more interesting answer, in part saying, " We are engaged with the IOC on this important topic and support its recent statement that sport is a human right and the Games should be open to all, spectators, officials, media, and athletes, regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation."
 
2013-08-15 12:13:58 PM  
How about we start a viral campaign to boycott watching or supporting the Russian hosted games. Not as a "nation", but as consumers. Don't watch the games and don't buy endorsed products. As said upthread: Fark Russia and shame on the IOC.
 
2013-08-15 12:17:20 PM  
Funny,usually I read most of a thread before commenting. After commenting then reading the thread, I remember why I do that. :|
 
2013-08-15 12:22:32 PM  

mutterfark: How about we start a viral campaign to boycott watching or supporting the Russian hosted games. Not as a "nation", but as consumers. Don't watch the games and don't buy endorsed products. As said upthread: Fark Russia and shame on the IOC.


Yeah, that's kinda what I was getting at by asking about corporations who pay to be official sponsors.  What I'd like to see in addition to the boycot would be for everyone who participates to take the time to actually contact the companies they're boycotting and explain why they're doing it.  A company that 8,000,000 letters to tell them that their customers feel their products have been tainted as a result of corporate endorsement of political repression of human rights will probably take notice.
 
2013-08-15 12:36:47 PM  

Red_Fox: I hope no one boycotts.  I hope that some athletes make a scene.  I hope Russia actually arrests them.  Why?  Because that's the one thing that will put the spotlight on them so brightly that they'll have to back down or face ridicule from the rest of the world...if not flat out threats to release the person.  I don't think they'll actually dare to arrest anyone....think of the scandal if a gay athlete or athletes are arrested mid-games.  You'd end up with a boycott mid-games by many athletes themselves until the person was released probably.  I can't imagine Russia wants that kind of attention.


This.

If I were a attendee or participant, however, I would be much more concerned about the "activist" groups in Russia that their authorities have been turning a blind eye towards. They're the ones that have largely been responsible for the brutal attacks, shaming, outing, and harassment of gay citizens in Russia. And I guarantee you they will have a huge presence at Sochi given how much attention this issue has gotten internationally.
 
2013-08-15 12:41:29 PM  
According to an IOC spokesperson, the Olympics aren't the place for "proactive political or religious demonstration," anyway.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-08-15 12:57:54 PM  
If you're a gay Olympic athlete, now is the time to bow out of the Olympics in protest.

You're looking at a very real chance of being arrested just for being gay, at an event that's supposed to bring the world together. Russia's happy to imprison you, and the IOC will apparently roll over for them, so why take the risk?
 
2013-08-15 01:04:58 PM  

Red_Fox: I hope no one boycotts.  I hope that some athletes make a scene.  I hope Russia actually arrests them.  Why?  Because that's the one thing that will put the spotlight on them so brightly that they'll have to back down or face ridicule from the rest of the world...if not flat out threats to release the person.  I don't think they'll actually dare to arrest anyone....think of the scandal if a gay athlete or athletes are arrested mid-games.  You'd end up with a boycott mid-games by many athletes themselves until the person was released probably.  I can't imagine Russia wants that kind of attention.


Normally, I'd agree - but given the recent events and anti-gay violence in Russia, I'm more concerned about the safety of the Olympic athletes than I am about supporting LGBT rights. I'd rather have our athletes here, safe, whole, and hale, than there, beaten or killed, all because Russia has taken a big step backwards in social progress.
 
2013-08-15 01:08:35 PM  

morg: According to an IOC spokesperson, the Olympics aren't the place for "proactive political or religious demonstration," anyway.

[i.imgur.com image 460x276]


I would love it if a gay American won gold and then at the top of the podium waved an American flag and a rainbow one. The sheer guts of that would be awesome and no way the state department would let them get locked up after the publicity of it.
 
2013-08-15 01:09:50 PM  
Red_Fox:

I hope no one boycotts.  I hope that some athletes make a scene.  I hope Russia actually arrests them.  Why?  Because that's the one thing that will put the spotlight on them so brightly that they'll have to back down or face ridicule from the rest of the world...if not flat out threats to release the person.  I don't think they'll actually dare to arrest anyone....think of the scandal if a gay athlete or athletes are arrested mid-games.  You'd end up with a boycott mid-games by many athletes themselves until the person was released probably.  I can't imagine Russia wants that kind of attention.

FIFA is going to be watching them. For now they've done the same BS song and dance as the IOC over the 2018 World Cup, saying that the event is not political and that russia can do whatever. But if there is a scandal at Sochi, i don't think FIFA would want to take a risk for the 2018 World Cup.
 
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