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(FEARnet)   For the first time in over a decade, the hottest author of summer 2013 is Stephen King   (fearnet.com) divider line 72
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2013-08-14 07:48:51 PM  
"Joyland" is a really good read.
 
2013-08-14 07:59:53 PM  
Lemme guess, does it start out really cool and end up that it was just aliens and there's a turtle and a bunch of guys running a train on a 12 year old?
 
2013-08-14 08:00:40 PM  
The summer of 2013 has been going on for a decade?
 
2013-08-14 09:40:24 PM  
Why the hell is there not a Kindle version of this book? :(
 
2013-08-14 09:42:12 PM  

mamoru: Why the hell is there not a Kindle version of this book? :(


And, to answer my own question, apparently, it's just because Stephen King says so. Grrrrr.... :(
 
2013-08-14 09:59:16 PM  

mamoru: And, to answer my own question, apparently, it's just because Stephen King says so. Grrrrr.... :(


FTA:  This time King has decided to throw his support behind brick-and-mortar booksellers. "I have no plans for a digital version," King told the Journal. "In the meantime, let people stir their sticks and go to an actual bookstore rather than a digital one."

No, they'll just go download a scanned pirated copy.
 
2013-08-14 10:00:27 PM  
I have a copy of Joyland on my shelf, but it's weird reading letters that aren't lit from behind.
 
2013-08-14 10:12:31 PM  
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/oblig
 
2013-08-14 10:14:24 PM  

Mugato: Lemme guess, does it start out really cool and end up that it was just aliens and there's a turtle and a bunch of guys running a train on a 12 year old?


That's one part of that book I don't understand.

Why does it become necessary for that sex to occur? Is it part of the ritual, or just some farked up scene that is borderline distasteful?
 
2013-08-14 10:16:09 PM  
Nope, still pissed about that stupid cop-out ending to the dark tower.

If there's a version of the story where Roland makes it to the tower with the horn and doesn't get looped back to the beginning, then why the f**k didn't you write that version, huh Steve? Maybe because you just pulled the last 3-4 books out of your ass?

/the bit under the castle was all right
//no spoiler alerts for books from 2004
 
2013-08-14 10:22:43 PM  

Virtual Pariah: Mugato: Lemme guess, does it start out really cool and end up that it was just aliens and there's a turtle and a bunch of guys running a train on a 12 year old?

That's one part of that book I don't understand.

Why does it become necessary for that sex to occur? Is it part of the ritual, or just some farked up scene that is borderline distasteful?


A little from column A...
 
2013-08-14 10:23:49 PM  

mamoru: mamoru: Why the hell is there not a Kindle version of this book? :(

And, to answer my own question, apparently, it's just because Stephen King says so. Grrrrr.... :(


There is, but it's just not a legitimate version.
 
2013-08-14 10:26:54 PM  
And only a month until The Shining 2 drops. I'm really curious how that turns out.
 
2013-08-14 10:28:37 PM  
King is obviously a good writer, but he's to hit or miss. It's like every idea that's ever popped into his head, he sits down and writes a book or short story about it. He needs to learn how to pick and choose the ones worth writing about. It also wouldn't hurt if about half his books were short stories instead, then he wouldn't feel so compelled to spend 8 pages describing every mundane little detail.
 
2013-08-14 10:30:57 PM  
I'm one of the bunch that think King lost it when we hit 'Tommyknockers' territory.

That said, Joyland is GREAT. It totally returns King to Pre-Tommyknockers writing. 

Damn good book. And no, not a paid shill. I hated the ending to the Dark Tower, I though the sequel to The Talisman blew huge fat poo-stinking chunks.

Joyland really rocks.
 
2013-08-14 10:31:03 PM  

Virtual Pariah: Mugato: Lemme guess, does it start out really cool and end up that it was just aliens and there's a turtle and a bunch of guys running a train on a 12 year old?

That's one part of that book I don't understand.

Why does it become necessary for that sex to occur? Is it part of the ritual, or just some farked up scene that is borderline distasteful?


As I understand it, it was part of the ritual of traveling from 'childhood' into 'adulthood.'  I think.  I hope?
 
2013-08-14 10:31:12 PM  

Virtual Pariah: Mugato: Lemme guess, does it start out really cool and end up that it was just aliens and there's a turtle and a bunch of guys running a train on a 12 year old?

That's one part of that book I don't understand.

Why does it become necessary for that sex to occur? Is it part of the ritual, or just some farked up scene that is borderline distasteful?


They had to embrace childhood so thoroughly to defeat IT in its original incarnation that to escape the sewers afterward they have to symbolically escape childhood itself, and one way in which that's done is through losing one's virginity.

I understand the scene and what King was going for, but it's always made me uncomfortable and I've reread the rest of that book maybe twenty or thirty times at this point.

Alternative comedy answer: King didn't quit drugs or alcohol until the late '80s and IT was published in 1985. It's probably fair to assume there's a connection between King's various addictions and the crazier parts of his output in the '80s, like how the moment he stops doing blow the books start getting shorter.
 
2013-08-14 10:39:53 PM  

wandero: Virtual Pariah: Mugato: Lemme guess, does it start out really cool and end up that it was just aliens and there's a turtle and a bunch of guys running a train on a 12 year old?

That's one part of that book I don't understand.

Why does it become necessary for that sex to occur? Is it part of the ritual, or just some farked up scene that is borderline distasteful?

They had to embrace childhood so thoroughly to defeat IT in its original incarnation that to escape the sewers afterward they have to symbolically escape childhood itself, and one way in which that's done is through losing one's virginity.

I understand the scene and what King was going for, but it's always made me uncomfortable and I've reread the rest of that book maybe twenty or thirty times at this point.


I understand what you mean. That part of the book can be skipped without losing any of the impact of the story upon multiple reads. Basically, from Bevvy and her father to the escape.

Some if it is relevant to show the extremes that Henry was sliding into,  but, there are good amounts that could have been edited out and still maintained it's impact.
 
2013-08-14 10:56:30 PM  

bukketmaster: If there's a version of the story where Roland makes it to the tower with the horn and doesn't get looped back to the beginning, then why the f**k didn't you write that version, huh Steve?


There is a lot to complain about with the last three books of the Dark Tower, but the ending isn't one to me. It seems like the only appropriate ending. I suspect that even if he came back with the Horn he would have screwed something else up along the way that time too. King's making a very obvious point about the nature of storytelling, that's the whole theme of the books after all.
 
2013-08-14 11:03:42 PM  

NeoCortex42: And only a month until The Shining 2 drops. I'm really curious how that turns out.


People who use the term "drops" to describe something becoming available for sale need to be sodomized with a large-print hardbound copy of The Stand.
 
2013-08-14 11:13:36 PM  
I've tried to read several King books, but i can't seem to get into them.  Odd, because I'm a huge horror fan.  Perhaps it's time to try again...or wait for Shining 2
 
2013-08-14 11:16:16 PM  

Disgruntled Goat: NeoCortex42: And only a month until The Shining 2 drops. I'm really curious how that turns out.

People who use the term "drops" to describe something becoming available for sale need to be sodomized with a large-print hardbound copy of The Stand.


Hey, when did The Stand unabridged edition drop?
 
2013-08-14 11:18:03 PM  
Over a decade? More like almost 30 years. Pet Sematary was released in November 1983. That is the last 'holy shiat!' novel he wrote. Note I said novel. On Writing (non fiction, 2000) was great as was Full Dark, No Stars (4 novellas, 2010).
 
2013-08-14 11:20:51 PM  

Disgruntled Goat: NeoCortex42: And only a month until The Shining 2 drops. I'm really curious how that turns out.

People who use the term "drops" to describe something becoming available for sale need to be sodomized with a large-print hardbound copy of The Stand.


That term bothers me too. Is it that hard to type 'is released'?

Excuse me while I go yell at a cloud.
 
2013-08-14 11:28:02 PM  
I assumed this was a roundabout way of saying Stephen King had somehow literally caught on fire, and was a little disappointed that it's just about him being successful again. I don't even feel any particular ill will towards the man, but come on...wasted opportunity.
 
2013-08-14 11:29:35 PM  
I'd bang him.
 
2013-08-14 11:41:22 PM  

Confabulat: bukketmaster: If there's a version of the story where Roland makes it to the tower with the horn and doesn't get looped back to the beginning, then why the f**k didn't you write that version, huh Steve?

There is a lot to complain about with the last three books of the Dark Tower, but the ending isn't one to me. It seems like the only appropriate ending. I suspect that even if he came back with the Horn he would have screwed something else up along the way that time too. King's making a very obvious point about the nature of storytelling, that's the whole theme of the books after all.


The last 3 books of the Dark Tower are... unsatisfying. I like the setup side stories from Hearts in Atlantis, etc. I agree with you. The ending was precisely as it should be. What ELSE did you expect/want?

I'm sure people not liking the ending thought that Bioshock:Infinite had a brilliant surprise twist.
 
2013-08-14 11:42:04 PM  

John Buck 41: Over a decade? More like almost 30 years. Pet Sematary was released in November 1983. That is the last 'holy shiat!' novel he wrote. Note I said novel. On Writing (non fiction, 2000) was great as was Full Dark, No Stars (4 novellas, 2010).


When do we get Danse Macabre 2?
 
2013-08-14 11:48:43 PM  

Fano: When do we get Danse Macabre 2?


I'd love to read a followup to that one. There's been so much horror between now and the first one though, it might look like an encyclopedia before King would finish.
 
2013-08-14 11:51:09 PM  

Fano: When do we get Danse Macabre 2?


Never. We'll have to (downheartedly) make due with the extra chapter (detailing his likes/dislikes since the 1st printing)  added to the most recent mass-market printing of it (released roughly a year+a few months ago)..
 
2013-08-14 11:54:33 PM  
...or make do, rather.
 
2013-08-15 12:03:08 AM  

Znuh: I'm one of the bunch that think King lost it when we hit 'Tommyknockers' territory.

That said, Joyland is GREAT. It totally returns King to Pre-Tommyknockers writing.

Damn good book. And no, not a paid shill. I hated the ending to the Dark Tower, I though the sequel to The Talisman blew huge fat poo-stinking chunks.

Joyland really rocks.


I guess im the only one who liked The Tommyknockers. His alien invasion take..Yes I know he was baked out of his mind when he wrote it but still its a fun read. But then again I liked Cell too.

Im with you on the sequel to the Tasliman. Could not even finish it it was so disappointing thats why I am having a wait and see outlook when The Shining 2 drops. The Overlook and Jack were the stars of that show but King has been in love with the homespun smaltzy Danny story
 
2013-08-15 12:08:40 AM  
I liked Black House though I listened to it on audiobook on bike rides, sometimes that changes your opinion of things. Plus it had the same narrator as The Talisman which I listened to right before so they blended together better than they might have otherwise.

It's definitely not what anyone would want as a Talisman sequel though. I think Jack spent about 5 pages in the Territories, wtf?

It was pretty much just another Dark Tower book without Roland and Eddie or interesting scenery. Although if I remember right I think they show up too.
 
2013-08-15 12:13:47 AM  
...(released roughly 3 years+a few months ago).

Goddamn, time really does fookin' fly, doanit?

Yeah, i'm acute aware no one cares as much as i do, but I just loathe leaving misinformation lie (especially when when I'm the source.)
 
2013-08-15 12:14:28 AM  

Virtual Pariah: Mugato: Lemme guess, does it start out really cool and end up that it was just aliens and there's a turtle and a bunch of guys running a train on a 12 year old?

That's one part of that book I don't understand.

Why does it become necessary for that sex to occur? Is it part of the ritual, or just some farked up scene that is borderline distasteful?


They were rebuilding their ka-tet. Yes, I realize it's not a Dark Tower book, but the events of IT involve the Tower and the Beam. They were fractured as a group and lost in the sewer looking for IT. And Bev figured out the problem and a solution.
 
2013-08-15 12:17:20 AM  

Fano: Confabulat: bukketmaster: If there's a version of the story where Roland makes it to the tower with the horn and doesn't get looped back to the beginning, then why the f**k didn't you write that version, huh Steve?

There is a lot to complain about with the last three books of the Dark Tower, but the ending isn't one to me. It seems like the only appropriate ending. I suspect that even if he came back with the Horn he would have screwed something else up along the way that time too. King's making a very obvious point about the nature of storytelling, that's the whole theme of the books after all.

The last 3 books of the Dark Tower are... unsatisfying. I like the setup side stories from Hearts in Atlantis, etc. I agree with you. The ending was precisely as it should be. What ELSE did you expect/want?

I'm sure people not liking the ending thought that Bioshock:Infinite had a brilliant surprise twist.


I really liked Wolves of the Calla. I hated Song of Susannah, in part because I hate that character. The final ending was unsatisfying. And that being said, the final ending was perfect. Ka is a wheel, and it turns.
 
2013-08-15 12:33:53 AM  
I'm an indie author, and King sells more books clipping his toe nails than I can even manage to give away for free.
 
2013-08-15 12:46:28 AM  
Stephen King is a national treasure!!!!!!

Joyland was awesome!!!!!

...and that Under the Dome show is reeeeeealy boring.
 
2013-08-15 01:05:27 AM  

Mike Chewbacca: Virtual Pariah: Mugato: Lemme guess, does it start out really cool and end up that it was just aliens and there's a turtle and a bunch of guys running a train on a 12 year old?

That's one part of that book I don't understand.

Why does it become necessary for that sex to occur? Is it part of the ritual, or just some farked up scene that is borderline distasteful?

They were rebuilding their ka-tet. Yes, I realize it's not a Dark Tower book, but the events of IT involve the Tower and the Beam. They were fractured as a group and lost in the sewer looking for IT. And Bev figured out the problem and a solution.


Pretty much that. Their bond as a group or Ka-Tet was falling apart and that "intimacy" was their way of bringing it back together.
 
2013-08-15 01:10:58 AM  

John Buck 41: Disgruntled Goat: NeoCortex42: And only a month until The Shining 2 drops. I'm really curious how that turns out.

People who use the term "drops" to describe something becoming available for sale need to be sodomized with a large-print hardbound copy of The Stand.

That term bothers me too. Is it that hard to type 'is released'?

Excuse me while I go yell at a cloud.


What if it's Skrillex dropping one? (Sorta NSFW, but ok if you're on break, I guess...)
 
2013-08-15 01:54:07 AM  

mamoru: mamoru: Why the hell is there not a Kindle version of this book? :(

And, to answer my own question, apparently, it's just because Stephen King says so. Grrrrr.... :(


And this from one of the first big named author to give the finger to the brick and mortars and published a book initially only in electronic form.
 
2013-08-15 04:06:04 AM  

Saiga410: mamoru: mamoru: Why the hell is there not a Kindle version of this book? :(

And, to answer my own question, apparently, it's just because Stephen King says so. Grrrrr.... :(

And this from one of the first big named author to give the finger to the brick and mortars and published a book initially only in electronic form.


I thought that a kind of a weird twist myself. Hey Steve, you were one of the main guys that got this ball rolling. Granted, it was going to happen anyway, but you mainstreamed it.
 
2013-08-15 04:07:56 AM  
I don't understand why horror writers feel the need to shoehorn in more poorly-written gratuitous sex scenes than an historical romance novel.  Often it ruins what was until that point a perfectly good story. The only horror novel I read where it worked was where it sort of made sense because it was about snuff films.

Is it because they think both horror and sex are "edgy"?  Is it because they think their key demo is sex starved social losers?  Did they get confused about why women find the Anne Rice novels sexy and think that just throwing sex into horror makes it sexy?  Do they not understand the difference between "sex" and "erotic"?

It's not the 80s any more, guys, you can let go of a few of the clichés.

Oh you know what, whilst googling for psych papers about this, I came across a forum of guys complaining there wasn't enough gratuitous rape in the mainstream horror novels and they want more.  Far be it from me to kink shame but... guys who are into gore-ridden rape fantasies score high on my "creep" radar.
 
2013-08-15 04:13:02 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: It's not the 80s any more, guys, you can let go of a few of the clichés.


Are you talking about IT? Cause that was written in the 80s. Are you talking about something more modern of his? Could you be more specific?

And why the hell does anyone mind sex scenes? You sound like one of those nerds who complain all those titties get in the way of enjoying Game of Thrones. Have you lost all priorities in life?
 
2013-08-15 04:51:51 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: I don't understand why horror writers feel the need to shoehorn in more poorly-written gratuitous sex scenes than an historical romance novel.  Often it ruins what was until that point a perfectly good story. The only horror novel I read where it worked was where it sort of made sense because it was about snuff films.

Is it because they think both horror and sex are "edgy"?  Is it because they think their key demo is sex starved social losers?  Did they get confused about why women find the Anne Rice novels sexy and think that just throwing sex into horror makes it sexy?  Do they not understand the difference between "sex" and "erotic"?

It's not the 80s any more, guys, you can let go of a few of the clichés.

Oh you know what, whilst googling for psych papers about this, I came across a forum of guys complaining there wasn't enough gratuitous rape in the mainstream horror novels and they want more.  Far be it from me to kink shame but... guys who are into gore-ridden rape fantasies score high on my "creep" radar.


I feel the same way about gratuitous sex/nudity scenes in movies. If I wanted to see sex I'll get on the internet and look at porn. I didn't pay $8 to see tits, I paid to see an interesting story.
 
2013-08-15 04:55:44 AM  

ReapTheChaos: If I wanted to see sex I'll get on the internet and look at porn. I didn't pay $8 to see tits, I paid to see an interesting story.


My theory is that people who get so distracted by naked people that they can't follow a story, are people with a lot of sexual issues.
 
2013-08-15 04:56:14 AM  
The book is good, eh?  That just means old Steve fell off the wagon.  The man can only write when he's tripping devil car amounts of balls.
 
2013-08-15 05:00:39 AM  

Confabulat: ReapTheChaos: If I wanted to see sex I'll get on the internet and look at porn. I didn't pay $8 to see tits, I paid to see an interesting story.

My theory is that people who get so distracted by naked people that they can't follow a story, are people with a lot of sexual issues.


I wasn't implying that I got distracted, I have no problem with sex/nudity if it helps develop the plot of the movie, but if it's just a sex scene for the sake of having a sex scene then it's only wasting screen time that could have been used to build a better story.
 
2013-08-15 05:04:24 AM  

ReapTheChaos: I wasn't implying that I got distracted, I have no problem with sex/nudity if it helps develop the plot of the movie, but if it's just a sex scene for the sake of having a sex scene then it's only wasting screen time that could have been used to build a better story.


Hey whatever turns you on. I personally don't mind my stories interrupted by the occasional bit of naughty.
 
2013-08-15 05:10:52 AM  

Confabulat: ReapTheChaos: I wasn't implying that I got distracted, I have no problem with sex/nudity if it helps develop the plot of the movie, but if it's just a sex scene for the sake of having a sex scene then it's only wasting screen time that could have been used to build a better story.

Hey whatever turns you on. I personally don't mind my stories interrupted by the occasional bit of naughty.


Well then I would turn your Weeners right back on you then, someone who can't enjoy a movie without seeing a gratuitous sex scene is someone who has a lot of sexual issues of their own.
 
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