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(Think Progress)   15 year old denied heart transplant in Georgia now at top of the list, nothing to do with national media attention   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 219
    More: Followup, heart transplants, Southern Christian Leadership Conference, Children's Healthcare of Atlanta  
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2013-08-14 11:47:12 PM

Misconduc: eraser8: Misconduc @ 11:15: Nobody claimed racial discrimination, neither did I say anyone did.

Misconduc @ 10:52: They painted a sob story of a black boy blah blah racial discrimination

http://www.atlantadailyworld.com/201308148232/Original/civil-rights- gr oups-win-petition-for-heart-transplant-originally-denied-to-15-year-ol d-african-american
The Southern Christian Leadership Conference is an African-American civil rights organization. SCLC was closely associated with its first president, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. The SCLC had a large role in the American Civil Rights Movement.

So explain that?


So, were you lying at 11:15 (when you wrote that "nobody claimed racial discrimination, neither did I say anyone did") or were you lying at 10:52 & 11:42 (when you effectively claimed the "race card" was played)?
 
2013-08-14 11:56:34 PM

Flash_NYC: Welcome to Obamacare!!!

Where if you don't shame or complain loud enough to get media attention, you're gonna get nothing.

/stocking up on prescription meds.
//have about 3 months in stock
///ready for a short disruption in supply.


Omg! So am I! Plus have got a Z-PAC I don't need set aside just in case and some other meds. Just in case.
 
2013-08-15 12:35:00 AM

RenownedCurator: I wonder what sort of tragic post-transplant followup story we'll be hearing.


This...
 
2013-08-15 12:49:52 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: I do wonder what the difference would have been if he had been a white kid who has a problem doing what he's told and engages routinely in self-destructive behavior.


None, other reports were drugs/alcohol in his system along with smoking and selling/not taking meds.

And tattoos? At 15? Who did them? Because I could have sworn you had to be 18 in Georgia.
 
2013-08-15 12:52:41 AM

Genevieve Marie: Anastacya: Wow, this is such bullshiat. Mom thinks her precious snowflake is more deserving of a heart transplant than others. The kid is still a minor, which means that Mom is partially responsible for his lack of taking his medications and getting to appointments. Now that he is living on borrowed time, suddenly the importance of all that shiat he didn't do sinks in. Docs say no, she drops the race card, national news, and now someone who didn't care enough about his health several months ago gets bumped ahead of people who followed all of the rules.

Complete and utter bullshiat.

That's not what happened.


Kid should not have been moved to the list, mom doesn't act like a mother and earlier media reports gave more detail of non compliance. And when they were on the news, with their preacher of course, they did play the race card.
 
2013-08-15 12:54:08 AM

steamingpile: Benevolent Misanthrope: I do wonder what the difference would have been if he had been a white kid who has a problem doing what he's told and engages routinely in self-destructive behavior.

None, other reports were drugs/alcohol in his system along with smoking and selling/not taking meds.

And tattoos? At 15? Who did them? Because I could have sworn you had to be 18 in Georgia.


Please link to a reputable source where I can verify the claims you are making.

Thank you.
 
2013-08-15 12:56:21 AM

steamingpile: Genevieve Marie: Anastacya: Wow, this is such bullshiat. Mom thinks her precious snowflake is more deserving of a heart transplant than others. The kid is still a minor, which means that Mom is partially responsible for his lack of taking his medications and getting to appointments. Now that he is living on borrowed time, suddenly the importance of all that shiat he didn't do sinks in. Docs say no, she drops the race card, national news, and now someone who didn't care enough about his health several months ago gets bumped ahead of people who followed all of the rules.

Complete and utter bullshiat.

That's not what happened.

Kid should not have been moved to the list, mom doesn't act like a mother and earlier media reports gave more detail of non compliance. And when they were on the news, with their preacher of course, they did play the race card.


I seen a few of the news videos,  just exactly is the point of bringing Civil rights group into this? Secondly if anyones in a medical field - the family quoted he was originally denied being put on the list for "Bad Grades" - is this even possible or just bs?
 
2013-08-15 01:17:03 AM
It's a little odd that the brain doesn't have some sort of "inventory" of things a body requires to function, and if one fails and a new one comes from somewhere else, it passes it through and instructs the rest of the body to make an exception for the foreign organ. Kind of wondering why the human brain doesn't take inventory of the things it has, and if one of them is required and works, and there are no alternatives, don't reject it, even if it doesn't pass the body's "verification check".
 
2013-08-15 02:12:52 AM

Pichu0102: It's a little odd that the brain doesn't have some sort of "inventory" of things a body requires to function, and if one fails and a new one comes from somewhere else, it passes it through and instructs the rest of the body to make an exception for the foreign organ. Kind of wondering why the human brain doesn't take inventory of the things it has, and if one of them is required and works, and there are no alternatives, don't reject it, even if it doesn't pass the body's "verification check".


Um, maybe because transplants are really new and there was no way the body could evolve anticipating that one day, humans would figure out how to swap out the parts?
 
2013-08-15 03:02:43 AM
I liked how in the original article they admitted he had crap grades so they made sure to photograph him behind a chessboard to give him the illusion of intelligence.

I'm also disappointed that they though anyone would fall for that crap.
 
2013-08-15 06:48:36 AM

Pichu0102: It's a little odd that the brain doesn't have some sort of "inventory" of things a body requires to function, and if one fails and a new one comes from somewhere else, it passes it through and instructs the rest of the body to make an exception for the foreign organ. Kind of wondering why the human brain doesn't take inventory of the things it has, and if one of them is required and works, and there are no alternatives, don't reject it, even if it doesn't pass the body's "verification check".



Sadly humans weren't intelligently designed.
 
2013-08-15 09:07:40 AM
What a damned waste of a rare gift.
Sure the eternal optimist would hope this is the event where he gets his life on track, but the more often correct follower of cynicism would say this event will teach him how to bilk the rest of civilization by playing the race card.
 
2013-08-15 10:19:41 AM
Even though I talked shiat on this kid, I hope he proves us all wrong by doing everything he is supposed to do and becomes a medical success.
 
2013-08-15 10:20:23 AM
What the hospital can't say, due to HIPA, is that this is the kid's second transplanted heart! He needs a new one because he didn't take his medication and go to Dr. visits like he was supposed to.
 
2013-08-15 10:52:30 AM

jso2897: You are trying to educate people out of believing what they want to believe.Because it is all protected by HIPPA, nobody knows why the kid's parents were initially told he might not get on the list, beyond their garbled, emotional account - and no official reason was given for his reinstatement (if he was ever actually off the program) either - the WHOLE GODDAMN CONVERSATION IS CONJECTURE. But you can't talk all these amateur scriptwriters out of their pet scenarios - I think imagining shiat brings some excitement into their empty lives.
I'd give it up, if I were you.


LOL.

So everybody is throwing around conjecture, but hers is the right conjecture. Blow it out your ass.
 
2013-08-15 11:24:19 AM

zzrhardy: I don't care. I withdrew from being an organ donor years ago when some other politcal correct bullshiat popped up.

You don't fark with acts of charity. Because at the end of day the people giving have the final word, not the lawyers, activists, lobbyists, administrators etc.


I am curious about what came up that caused you to change your mind.
 
2013-08-15 01:40:00 PM
So, if the doctor is Zimmerman and the kid is Trayvon, what happens next?
 
2013-08-15 02:44:20 PM

from my blood: So, if the doctor is Zimmerman and the kid is Trayvon, what happens next?


If the kid dies it becomes a civil rights case even if the kid plays a part in his own death....
 
2013-08-15 03:33:33 PM

WillofJ2: from my blood: So, if the doctor is Zimmerman and the kid is Trayvon, what happens next?

If the kid dies it becomes a civil rights case even if the kid plays a part in his own death....


It will be proven that the Dr. did in fact follow him all the way to the ER where he proceeded to remove his heart.   Guilty!
 
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