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(Deadspin)   83 NFL players, including Clinton Portis, Daunte Culpepper, and Carnell "Cadillac" Williams, filed a lawsuit yesterday in a Florida federal court, alleging the NFL did nothing to protect players from concussion   (deadspin.com) divider line 64
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2013-08-15 09:48:24 AM

AbsentFriends: I wonder how much of the damage is due to concussions and how much is concussions + steroids.


I'm not aware of a link between CTE and steroids. Is there one?
 
2013-08-15 10:10:53 AM
This is like joining the military and then turning around to sue the U.S. Government because you were wounded.

It's a job, there are risks. You knew that when you signed the dotted line.

BRB, got a paper cut last week, now it's infected. It affects my quality of life by preventing "me time" since it hurts when pressure is applied. Time to get the court proceedings started.

/doesn't really have a paper cut.
 
2013-08-15 10:21:17 AM

WhiskeySticks: This is like joining the military and then turning around to sue the U.S. Government because you were wounded.

It's a job, there are risks. You knew that when you signed the dotted line.

BRB, got a paper cut last week, now it's infected. It affects my quality of life by preventing "me time" since it hurts when pressure is applied. Time to get the court proceedings started.

/doesn't really have a paper cut.


That's happened. Specifically when the military uses a weapon or tool they know is hazardous to the health of the soldiers using it properly AND hides that fact from the users.

Agent Orange is an example. As is the post-desert storm lawsuit when veterans with PTSD were denied medical coverage.
 
2013-08-15 10:26:16 AM

ongbok: ununcle: Farking money grab from ex jags. Steve Young retired because of concussions and he seems fine. Fark them.

Have you ever seen any recent interviews with Jim McMahon lately? The guy is having trouble counting to potato.


Dude thought a headband was a fashion statement. I don't think he was that sharp to begin with.
 
2013-08-15 10:55:14 AM
People think the UFC is dangerous because after every event, half the fighters get 3-6 month suspensions.

These people fail to realize that these suspensions are not proof of the level of danger in the UFC, but rather proof of the opposite.  The NFL couldn't survive if it medically suspended people the way the UFC does.
 
2013-08-15 12:15:05 PM

js34603: Wait they didn't give them helmets?


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"Well yes obviously the helmets."
 
2013-08-15 12:16:49 PM
And Daunte Culpepper? That's not concussion; he's just retarded.
 
2013-08-15 12:55:41 PM

EngineerAU: WillofJ2: Can the NFL include something to the effect of, by playing in this league you understand there is as risk of short and long term injury and permanent disability and you waive your right to sue?

Sure they could. The lawsuit alleges that they knew there was a danger that the players weren't aware of and actively conspired to keep them from knowing. Such a waiver would be the exact opposite of what the NFL is alleged to have done. The problem with the waiver isn't that players wouldn't sign it... they almost certainly would. It's that 1) it would scare the hell out of moms and dads whose children the NFL needs to seed their farm system that starts with Pop Warner and goes through middle school, high school and the NCAA/NAIA and 2) Would be used by the players' union as a reason to demand long term health benefits to those who are permanently disabled due to a concussion. The NFL doesn't want either of these things to happen so they really don't want such a waiver to become a necessity.


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your words, they are good.
 
2013-08-15 12:57:54 PM

EngineerAU: WillofJ2: Can the NFL include something to the effect of, by playing in this league you understand there is as risk of short and long term injury and permanent disability and you waive your right to sue?

Sure they could. The lawsuit alleges that they knew there was a danger that the players weren't aware of and actively conspired to keep them from knowing. Such a waiver would be the exact opposite of what the NFL is alleged to have done. The problem with the waiver isn't that players wouldn't sign it... they almost certainly would. It's that 1) it would scare the hell out of moms and dads whose children the NFL needs to seed their farm system that starts with Pop Warner and goes through middle school, high school and the NCAA/NAIA and 2) Would be used by the players' union as a reason to demand long term health benefits to those who are permanently disabled due to a concussion. The NFL doesn't want either of these things to happen so they really don't want such a waiver to become a necessity.


wanted to add that my boy won't be playing the football & after seeing the stats about soccer players, not sure about that either.

/hoops it is unless he loves golf or something
 
2013-08-15 01:29:02 PM

Deneb81: AbsentFriends: I wonder how much of the damage is due to concussions and how much is concussions + steroids.

I'm not aware of a link between CTE and steroids. Is there one?


maybe that guys on roids tend to be stronger and faster & would thereby hit harder?

plus they also got teh roid rage so that helps right ?
 
2013-08-15 02:14:18 PM
The old guys, ok. Different issue.

These recently retired guys are just getting in on a money grab now that the checks stopped coming. Each and every guy mentioned knew  the risks damn well. And beyond that if they had been presented with a waiver prior to the draft complete with graphs and brain biopsy pictures and the scariest language imaginable they'd have signed it to the last man. There would have been a 100% acceptance rate. Greed knows no bounds.
 
2013-08-15 02:48:22 PM

inner ted: EngineerAU: WillofJ2: Can the NFL include something to the effect of, by playing in this league you understand there is as risk of short and long term injury and permanent disability and you waive your right to sue?

Sure they could. The lawsuit alleges that they knew there was a danger that the players weren't aware of and actively conspired to keep them from knowing. Such a waiver would be the exact opposite of what the NFL is alleged to have done. The problem with the waiver isn't that players wouldn't sign it... they almost certainly would. It's that 1) it would scare the hell out of moms and dads whose children the NFL needs to seed their farm system that starts with Pop Warner and goes through middle school, high school and the NCAA/NAIA and 2) Would be used by the players' union as a reason to demand long term health benefits to those who are permanently disabled due to a concussion. The NFL doesn't want either of these things to happen so they really don't want such a waiver to become a necessity.

wanted to add that my boy won't be playing the football & after seeing the stats about soccer players, not sure about that either.

/hoops it is unless he loves golf or something


My cousin has his kid playing golf, mind you the kid is 7 but on two years in now, my cousin was a scholarship football player swore his kids wont play football
 
2013-08-15 03:38:13 PM

WillofJ2: My cousin has his kid playing golf, mind you the kid is 7 but on two years in now, my cousin was a scholarship football player swore his kids wont play football


That must be the head injuries talkin.
 
2013-08-15 08:20:51 PM
Great, here come the limp wristed lawyers to ruin yet another American institution.All the sissy boy nerds grew up with chips on their shoulder against every manly activity they couldn't participate in as kids. "I'll show you all! I'll get a modicum of middle class authority and abuse it to stop everyone else's fun! Then you'll respect me."
 
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