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2013-08-14 03:03:52 PM  
Here's a link to the interview instead of that crap hatchet job and commentary from TFA:  http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/11/magazine/harrison-ford-on-fanboys-a n d-fat-suits.html?ref=magazine&_r=2&;

I like how honest he is about technology today instead of kissing anyone's arse, and I don't seem him poo-pooing anything, subby.  Crawl out of your basement every once in a while, eh?
 
2013-08-14 03:17:46 PM  
Old man yells at con
 
2013-08-14 03:21:05 PM  
And by "Fail", Subby, you mean "Yes, Harrison Ford is 100% correct, and his wife isn't as skeletal as she used to be."

/fark "geek culture". It needs to die.
 
2013-08-14 03:41:17 PM  
"It was a community experience, and that was part of the fun."

But there's your problem:  the community he is referring to really doesn't exist anymore.  The multiplexes made sure of that.

Every time I go to see a movie, I vow that it is the last time I will ever visit a theater again.  Sticky floors and chairs, apathetic ushers (when you can even find one), loud & obnoxious patrons...the only thing still worth a shiat anymore is the popcorn.

Thanks, but I'd just as soon wait for the Bluray.
 
2013-08-14 03:51:17 PM  
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2013-08-14 03:52:23 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: /fark "geek culture". It needs to die.


Why?
 
2013-08-14 04:00:27 PM  

PainInTheASP: Every time I go to see a movie, I vow that it is the last time I will ever visit a theater again.  Sticky floors and chairs, apathetic ushers (when you can even find one), loud & obnoxious patrons...the only thing still worth a shiat anymore is the popcorn.


Damn, you must go to some shiatty theaters. I love going to the movies. The awesome sound system, the coming attractions, the occasional handjob. The theater I go to is pretty fascist about people on phones. The only person I saw who used his phone at the movies in the last year was a 60 something year old and he was busted. Don't bother with snacks though and the girls I go with are usually on a diet so it doesn't come up.I avoid 3D though.
 
2013-08-14 04:01:01 PM  
Do you think those movies would be received differently if they came out in today's environment?
Everyone would be ahead of it, and everybody would know what it was, and it would be no fun at all.



If you have any doubt of this being true, go look at the comments on the recent thread here about the upcoming Guardians of the Galaxy movie (or really any number of upcoming films for that matter). A significant number of people seem to be able to hate something that's still in production. Hell, I've seen people hate a leaked script for a film that may or may not get made. I remember back in the 80s when I and my friends where super excited about one or two blurry photographs of what would turn out to be Jabba's sail barge being published in a sci-fi movie magazine. Nobody was saying "Man, that movie looks like shiat. Is that a pig man? How stupid is that?" Of course at some point, I'm not sure when, it seems like "geek" culture became less about what people love than about what they hate.

/yeah, I got an onion on my belt
 
2013-08-14 04:02:50 PM  
Well, he ain't wrong.

With way to few exceptions most sci-fi / Fantasy/ Super hero movies today are about providing "fan service"- little easter egg moments and sly inside nods to obscure bits of canon that send the die hard fans into paroxsyms of geek joy rather than telling a good story and maybe creating NEW mythos
 
2013-08-14 04:09:27 PM  
I don't think that was grumpy at all, snowflake. I think he's right, though. I remember knowing absolutely little to nothing about a lot of the films I saw in theaters as a kid. It was like getting a Christmas present that took two hours to open. And I still prefer going to the theater to sitting at home, although my chances to do that are rare these days.
 
2013-08-14 04:09:43 PM  
The "author" sounds like he's twelve.  Protip: when you have something, and people will pay you money to have or have access to it, in the land of grown-ups that thing is called a "product."
 
2013-08-14 04:10:35 PM  
I think he's still pissed about Indy4 not being well received in the internet community (despite still making a shiatton of money, see also the Star Wars Prequels). Maybe he has a point. Maybe nothing impresses anyone anymore. Maybe we've seen it all and maybe by the time a movie comes out, so much of it has been spoiled that there isn't much to look forward to. Maybe that's why he's been so grumpy for the last 20 years.
 
2013-08-14 04:13:01 PM  

Sybarite: Do you think those movies would be received differently if they came out in today's environment?
Everyone would be ahead of it, and everybody would know what it was, and it would be no fun at all.


If you have any doubt of this being true, go look at the comments on the recent thread here about the upcoming Guardians of the Galaxy movie (or really any number of upcoming films for that matter). A significant number of people seem to be able to hate something that's still in production. Hell, I've seen people hate a leaked script for a film that may or may not get made. I remember back in the 80s when I and my friends where super excited about one or two blurry photographs of what would turn out to be Jabba's sail barge being published in a sci-fi movie magazine. Nobody was saying "Man, that movie looks like shiat. Is that a pig man? How stupid is that?" Of course at some point, I'm not sure when, it seems like "geek" culture became less about what people love than about what they hate.

/yeah, I got an onion on my belt


what geeks used to look like:
3.bp.blogspot.com
What Geek culture has become
danswankys.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-08-14 04:13:22 PM  
31.media.tumblr.com

Really? I thought it would have been already posted.
 
2013-08-14 04:17:34 PM  
He's right
 
2013-08-14 04:23:37 PM  

Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: /fark "geek culture". It needs to die.

Why?


Overhype. Overmarketing. Oversaturation. Dilution of the original elements. Olivia Munn. Take your pick.
 
2013-08-14 04:26:45 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: /fark "geek culture". It needs to die.

Why?

Overhype. Overmarketing. Oversaturation. Dilution of the original elements. Olivia Munn. Take your pick.


Well I think that the sports culture is obnoxious. Grown men attaching their egos to how well strangers who don't give a fark about them throw a ball around based solely on what city they come from. But I don't biatch about it.
 
2013-08-14 04:37:28 PM  

Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: /fark "geek culture". It needs to die.

Why?

Overhype. Overmarketing. Oversaturation. Dilution of the original elements. Olivia Munn. Take your pick.

Well I think that the sports culture is obnoxious. Grown men attaching their egos to how well strangers who don't give a fark about them throw a ball around based solely on what city they come from. But I don't biatch about it.


Ah, but in sports culture, you don't necessarily get to sit back and watch what you used to enjoy be destroyed to pander to the masses the way people who used to consider themselves "geeks" have been able to in the past decade or so.
 
2013-08-14 04:44:33 PM  
"People used to go to movie theaters. It was a community experience, and that was part of the fun. Now people see a movie on their iPad, alone, with interruptions for snacks."

You know, Mr. Ford strikes a clear and powerful note here. The notion that movies are simply a product to be viewed by oneself--as though reading a book without turning the pages--is relatively recent develop--[DING]--oooh, there's the popcorn! BRB!

/going to the movies by yourself used to be a lot of fun, too
 
2013-08-14 04:45:19 PM  

Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: /fark "geek culture". It needs to die.

Why?

Overhype. Overmarketing. Oversaturation. Dilution of the original elements. Olivia Munn. Take your pick.

Well I think that the sports culture is obnoxious. Grown men attaching their egos to how well strangers who don't give a fark about them throw a ball around based solely on what city they come from. But I don't biatch about it.


It's more about sublimating their homosexuality.
 
2013-08-14 04:45:27 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: "People used to go to movie theaters. It was a community experience, and that was part of the fun. Now people see a movie on their iPad, alone, with interruptions for snacks."

You know, Mr. Ford strikes a clear and powerful note here. The notion that movies are simply a product to be viewed by oneself--as though reading a book without turning the pages--is relatively recent develop--[DING]--oooh, there's the popcorn! BRB!

/going to the movies by yourself used to be a lot of fun, too


Especially if you cut a hole in the bottom of the popcorn bag.
 
2013-08-14 04:45:36 PM  
Everything he said was true and the author sounds like a pimply tween with entitlement issues.
 
2013-08-14 04:46:37 PM  

PainInTheASP: "It was a community experience, and that was part of the fun."

But there's your problem:  the community he is referring to really doesn't exist anymore.  The multiplexes made sure of that.

Every time I go to see a movie, I vow that it is the last time I will ever visit a theater again.  Sticky floors and chairs, apathetic ushers (when you can even find one), loud & obnoxious patrons...the only thing still worth a shiat anymore is the popcorn.

Thanks, but I'd just as soon wait for the Bluray.


I don't want to go to the movies for a "community experience." I want everyone else to shut the fark up. In fact I wish none of them were there.
 
2013-08-14 04:47:14 PM  
AND NOW HE'S STANDING ON YOUR NECK!!!1!!
 
2013-08-14 04:47:38 PM  
Thanks subby, I do prefer to read abridged versions of interviews with gratuitous snark replacing the actual content.
 
2013-08-14 04:48:40 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: /fark "geek culture". It needs to die.

Why?

Overhype. Overmarketing. Oversaturation. Dilution of the original elements. Olivia Munn. Take your pick.


If you call yourself a geek, you aren't. Period.
 
2013-08-14 04:48:56 PM  
His point wasn't that geek culture is bad or anything like that. His point, which is 100% correct, was that geek culture was co-opted by the money makers. Geek culture used to be a thing because geeks didn't feel they fit in with popular culture. Now geek culture is popular culture.
 
2013-08-14 04:49:30 PM  

Mugato: I think he's still pissed about Indy4 not being well received in the internet community (despite still making a shiatton of money, see also the Star Wars Prequels). Maybe he has a point. Maybe nothing impresses anyone anymore. Maybe we've seen it all and maybe by the time a movie comes out, so much of it has been spoiled that there isn't much to look forward to. Maybe that's why he's been so grumpy for the last 20 years.


Movie previews have gotten pretty spoilerish, especially the ones before the feature film that last for several minutes. Some are practically a recap of the whole film.
 
2013-08-14 04:50:46 PM  

cretinbob: He's right


Yea, but he shot first. so, no.
 
2013-08-14 04:51:07 PM  
He's right, you know.
 
2013-08-14 04:53:12 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: cretinbob: He's right

Yea, but he shot first. so, no.


For almost two decades now, Greedo has shot first.

An entire generation has known nothing else.
 
2013-08-14 04:53:56 PM  
big stinky Chewbacca-sized dump

I don't know about you guys, but I'm sure not cleaning that up.
 
2013-08-14 04:53:59 PM  

AgentPothead: His point wasn't that geek culture is bad or anything like that. His point, which is 100% correct, was that geek culture was co-opted by the money makers. Geek culture used to be a thing because geeks didn't feel they fit in with popular culture. Now geek culture is popular culture.


Yeah...I still don't see a problem with that. Co-opted by money makers, meh. If anything the success of Star Wars spawned a ton of movies, including the two sequels. It's too bad prequels to the movies were never made. (shut up)
 
2013-08-14 04:55:15 PM  

Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: /fark "geek culture". It needs to die.

Why?


Why not? Is not my pleasure in seeing it die, and all it's adherents burned alive in front of me reason enough?
 
2013-08-14 04:56:33 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: cretinbob: He's right

Yea, but he shot first. so, no.


FTFY

Last I checked in the original Greedo never even got a shot off.
 
2013-08-14 04:56:33 PM  

pyrotek85: Mugato: I think he's still pissed about Indy4 not being well received in the internet community (despite still making a shiatton of money, see also the Star Wars Prequels). Maybe he has a point. Maybe nothing impresses anyone anymore. Maybe we've seen it all and maybe by the time a movie comes out, so much of it has been spoiled that there isn't much to look forward to. Maybe that's why he's been so grumpy for the last 20 years.

Movie previews have gotten pretty spoilerish, especially the ones before the feature film that last for several minutes. Some are practically a recap of the whole film.


That's because most films today are so shiatty that their good moments will all fit into a single trailer.
 
2013-08-14 04:56:39 PM  

Nabb1: I remember knowing absolutely little to nothing about a lot of the films I saw in theaters as a kid.


I remember when movie reviews were about the movies, but vague, and said nothing about the receipts.
Now it's all who's out grossing whom.
Fark that.
That's why I stick to indies and what not. I don't care what they make.
Just that they give me some escape for a while.

I remember going to actual grindhouse movies in the 60s for 75¢ and pop corn was 15¢ a bag.
Real bad spatter, and real titties. Some that became famous TV stars later on, too.
 
2013-08-14 04:57:10 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Lt. Cheese Weasel: cretinbob: He's right

Yea, but he shot first. so, no.

FTFY

Last I checked in the original Greedo never even got a shot off.


You should check out the porn version.
 
2013-08-14 04:58:48 PM  
i112.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-14 04:58:48 PM  
Wait? You mean "geek culture" is more or less the slickly marketed enterprise of a handful of hollywood executives that figured out long ago that there is a certain population of people that will buy anything they sell as long as they get some washed-up actor from a sci-fi show to pimp it out for gas money?
 
2013-08-14 04:59:25 PM  

jso2897: Dingleberry Dickwad: Lt. Cheese Weasel: cretinbob: He's right

Yea, but he shot first. so, no.

FTFY

Last I checked in the original Greedo never even got a shot off.

You should check out the porn version.


Oddly enough, in the porn version, Jabba is once again a big fat furry guy.
 
2013-08-14 05:00:14 PM  
I don't know. If you read the actual interview and understand the context of how these things are done (the movie stars sit in a room all day and entertain stupid questions from mostly non-journalists), it's sort of nice to see Harrison Ford saying, "Look, I don't care about any movie I've starred in that's become an entertainment product."

He's 100% right that moviegoing has changed from a hobby shared with friends into a spectacle. And he's also right that there's nothing special about making movies for millenials who are just going to watch them on a dinky small screen anyhow.

To top it all off, he also admits he's not a very good actor when he's playing a leading man and says he prefers character acting because then it's not about him.

He sounds pretty lucid and self-aware to me.
 
2013-08-14 05:01:49 PM  

roughridersfan: big stinky Chewbacca-sized dump

I don't know about you guys, but I'm sure not cleaning that up.


It could be worse.  It could be Jar-Jar shiat
 
2013-08-14 05:03:11 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: /fark "geek culture". It needs to die.

Why?

Overhype. Overmarketing. Oversaturation. Dilution of the original elements. Olivia Munn. Take your pick.


I'm actually warming up to Olivia Munn now. She's been great on The Newsroom. Given the right script, she can be entertaining (unlike the disaster she was on The Daily Show).
 
2013-08-14 05:04:43 PM  

pyrotek85: Mugato: I think he's still pissed about Indy4 not being well received in the internet community (despite still making a shiatton of money, see also the Star Wars Prequels). Maybe he has a point. Maybe nothing impresses anyone anymore. Maybe we've seen it all and maybe by the time a movie comes out, so much of it has been spoiled that there isn't much to look forward to. Maybe that's why he's been so grumpy for the last 20 years.

Movie previews have gotten pretty spoilerish, especially the ones before the feature film that last for several minutes. Some are practically a recap of the whole film.


Pretty much they show 90% of the good stuff in the preview anyways. So when it happens in the movie youre not suprised at all by it, you just kind of expect it.
 
2013-08-14 05:07:25 PM  

Mad_Radhu: FirstNationalBastard: Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: /fark "geek culture". It needs to die.

Why?

Overhype. Overmarketing. Oversaturation. Dilution of the original elements. Olivia Munn. Take your pick.

I'm actually warming up to Olivia Munn now. She's been great on The Newsroom. Given the right script, she can be entertaining (unlike the disaster she was on The Daily Show).


I'll eventually give Newsroom a try, despite my misgivings about Olivia Munn being in the show.

However, she represents geek culture to me... a cynical marketing creation screaming "BUY ME, FANBOY! I'M GEEKY! LOOK, TITS! BUY ME! I'M JUST LIKE YOU, HONEST!"
 
2013-08-14 05:08:47 PM  

vudukungfu: Nabb1: I remember knowing absolutely little to nothing about a lot of the films I saw in theaters as a kid.

I remember when movie reviews were about the movies, but vague, and said nothing about the receipts.
Now it's all who's out grossing whom.
Fark that.
That's why I stick to indies and what not. I don't care what they make.
Just that they give me some escape for a while.

I remember going to actual grindhouse movies in the 60s for 75¢ and pop corn was 15¢ a bag.
Real bad spatter, and real titties. Some that became famous TV stars later on, too.


Mmmmm - titty-spatter.
 
2013-08-14 05:18:32 PM  

PainInTheASP: Every time I go to see a movie, I vow that it is the last time I will ever visit a theater again.  Sticky floors and chairs, apathetic ushers (when you can even find one), loud & obnoxious patrons...the only thing still worth a shiat anymore is the popcorn.


Perhaps you should try going to a decent theatre sometime.
 
2013-08-14 05:20:29 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Lt. Cheese Weasel: cretinbob: He's right

Yea, but he shot first. so, no.

For almost two decades now, Greedo has shot first.

An entire generation has known nothing else.


Every time some punk twenty something says that - I go out and dig up my laserdisc player and laserdisc version of Star Wars and show that punk how it was originally filmed.

/punk
//get off my ship
 
2013-08-14 05:21:58 PM  
ADAM STERNBERGH, Douchebag, Esq.
It takes a shiatty reporter to get a shiatty interview.
 
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