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(NFL)   Can Kaepernick forget about the swag and focus on getting to another Super Bowl? Will the Shehawks match the 49ers improvements without Harvin? Your way too soon preseason week 2 Power Rankings   (nfl.com ) divider line
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2013-08-14 02:34:34 PM  
Below Jacksonville....and I expected it.

/it's hard to be a Raiders fan
 
2013-08-14 02:36:59 PM  
Niners: "They're missing some key guys and the replacements and noobs are a question mark. Totally number one"

Seahawks: "Yeah, this guy they didn't have last year is hurt, so that means they're already weakened"
 
2013-08-14 03:05:19 PM  
Hah.  Fine.
 
2013-08-14 03:10:07 PM  
Did anyone actually read the descriptions under the rankings? My god, it's awful.
 
2013-08-14 03:21:46 PM  
I wouldn't put the niners as #1.

Unless it makes them overconfident and they lose initial games.  Which will help them in the end.

/niners fan
 
2013-08-14 03:59:18 PM  
What's the point of power rankings that are a) in the preseason, and b) not the Fark official* ESPN rankings? It's not real until GRAF
 
2013-08-14 04:11:45 PM  
Just call it a hunch, but I think the Saints might be going for the jugular from start to finish this year. Starting with a heaping serving of blackened bird...
 
2013-08-14 04:13:41 PM  

Nabb1: Just call it a hunch, but I think the Saints might be going for the jugular from start to finish this year. Starting with a heaping serving of blackened bird...


Hope so.  Vilma's apparently got another sports hernia, but it's not like the team's not used to playing without him at this point.
 
2013-08-14 04:14:35 PM  
Niners: Division title last two years
Hawks: Uh... it's been a while

Niners: Went to NFC Championship both of the last 2 seasons.
Hawks: Uh... it's been a while.

Niners: Went to Super Bowl last year, narrowly lost.
Hawks: Uh... it's been a while.

Niners: Won five of last six head-to-head games.
Hawks: Won one of last six head-to-head games.

Niners: 9 players elected by NFL players to top 100
Hawks: 5 players elected by NFL players to top 100

Niners: Fans celebrate substance of repeated trips deep into post-season.
Hawks: Fans make a lot of noise.
 
2013-08-14 04:14:38 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: What's the point of power rankings that are a) in the preseason, and b) not the Fark official* ESPN rankings? It's not real until GRAF


You aren't gettin' GRAF or TRIV until regular season.
 
2013-08-14 04:15:46 PM  
The Jets will be much better than the 3rd worst team in football.

They can't be any worse than they were last year, and yet they won 6 games last year.
 
2013-08-14 04:16:48 PM  
According to this, the 49ers schedule starts out: 8, @2, 12, @16, 5

That's a tall order
 
2013-08-14 04:17:51 PM  
I hate this "power" ranking bullshiat.  It's a ranking of sports teams - "power" is more or less assumed.
 
2013-08-14 04:19:18 PM  

spiderpaz: Niners: Division title last two years
Hawks: Uh... it's been a while


Like, say, the year before that?

spiderpaz: Niners: Fans celebrate substance of repeated trips deep into post-season.
Hawks: Fans make a lot of noise.


Niners have had less success in a division with the Seahawks than the Seahawks have. But by all means, celebrate stuff from before the teams played each other.

/42-13
 
2013-08-14 04:19:30 PM  

spiderpaz: Niners: Division title last two years
Hawks: Uh... it's been a while

Niners: Went to NFC Championship both of the last 2 seasons.
Hawks: Uh... it's been a while.

Niners: Went to Super Bowl last year, narrowly lost.
Hawks: Uh... it's been a while.

Niners: Won five of last six head-to-head games.
Hawks: Won one of last six head-to-head games.

Niners: 9 players elected by NFL players to top 100
Hawks: 5 players elected by NFL players to top 100

Niners: Fans celebrate substance of repeated trips deep into post-season.
Hawks: Fans make a lot of noise.


If you don't think the Seahawks are a threat to the Niners, you're not paying attention.  Especially given that, if they do win the division, they're pretty much guaranteed a Super Bowl spot because of Magic Stadium.

Remember, Magic Stadium gave Marshawn Lynch the strength of 15 men.

/Niners fan.
 
2013-08-14 04:19:31 PM  
Brady just went out of practice holding the same knee he injured in 2008. Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease.
 
2013-08-14 04:21:32 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Brady just went out of practice holding the same knee he injured in 2008. Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease.


Seriously, if he's done for the season I'll pray to Saint Tebow every night.
 
2013-08-14 04:21:58 PM  

spiderpaz: According to this, the 49ers schedule starts out: 8, @2, 12, @16, 5


4, @20, 25, 14, @13.

Hmm, hopefully this arbitrary list is better than the winning percentage from the previous season method of ranking scheds, lol.
 
2013-08-14 04:22:13 PM  
I will say that the part where he said "as soon as you see Ryan Mathews get tackled, you assume he's injured" is very true.
 
2013-08-14 04:22:50 PM  
Saints at 21?  Oh, please.
 
2013-08-14 04:22:58 PM  

Treygreen13: Incorrigible Astronaut: What's the point of power rankings that are a) in the preseason, and b) not the Fark official* ESPN rankings? It's not real until GRAF

You aren't gettin' GRAF or TRIV until regular season.


Exactly. Everything's so vanilla right now that the only real reason to move teams up or down is injuries or crazy, last-minute free agent acquisitions.
 
2013-08-14 04:23:01 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Brady just went out of practice holding the same knee he injured in 2008.


It's Tim Tebow's 26th birthday today.
 
2013-08-14 04:23:19 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Brady just went out of practice holding the same knee he injured in 2008. Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease.


He came back on the field one play later, finished the drill, decided to stop practicing, and jogged off the field...probably not.
 
2013-08-14 04:25:42 PM  
Actually, that came off a bit biatchier than I intended. Any signpost that says "TALK FOOTBALL HERE," like useless non-official rankings, is a good way to tide us over while we're waiting for the appetizer to finish.

By the way, not to threadjack, but what has everybody thought of this year's Hard Knocks so far?
 
2013-08-14 04:26:47 PM  
 
2013-08-14 04:27:33 PM  

IAmRight: cameroncrazy1984: Brady just went out of practice holding the same knee he injured in 2008. Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease.

He came back on the field one play later, finished the drill, decided to stop practicing, and jogged off the field...probably not.


You tell kids there isn't any santa claus don't you? Look just because you root for a team with a real defense/offense, and that has seen the play off in a decade doesn't mean you should crush the hopes of the rest of us!
 
2013-08-14 04:27:34 PM  

basemetal: Below Jacksonville....and I expected it.

/it's hard to be a Raiders fan


I'm a Broncos fan and even I have to empathize with that.
 
2013-08-14 04:28:48 PM  
I also feel like the Cardinals are way underrated.

With a mediocre QB like Kevin Kolb last year, the squad was what, 5-1? Palmer can be mediocre. The rest of that team is no joke.
 
2013-08-14 04:29:54 PM  

SenorBenedict: You tell kids there isn't any santa claus don't you? Look just because you root for a team with a real defense/offense, and that has seen the play off in a decade doesn't mean you should crush the hopes of the rest of us!


I'm just saying you need to do better with the voodoo dolls and curses.

/like the Bills the most of any of the AFC East teams
 
2013-08-14 04:30:44 PM  

IAmRight: I also feel like the Cardinals are way underrated.

With a mediocre QB like Kevin Kolb last year, the squad was what, 5-1? Palmer can be mediocre. The rest of that team is no joke.


Cardinals had a lot of injuries as well. And you forgot John Skelton man!

I still don't think they'll do anything this year, the surprise team in the west is going to be the Rams. They take the division book it done.

Seahawks won't make the play offs, I saw the preseason game, the refs got the memo.
 
2013-08-14 04:31:12 PM  
You mean it took two whole posts for a Seahawks fan to whine about their being disrespected and having the entire league against them?

You guys are slacking. You need to pay more attention... maybe consider some medications that would help with that.
 
2013-08-14 04:32:32 PM  

IAmRight: SenorBenedict: You tell kids there isn't any santa claus don't you? Look just because you root for a team with a real defense/offense, and that has seen the play off in a decade doesn't mean you should crush the hopes of the rest of us!

I'm just saying you need to do better with the voodoo dolls and curses.

/like the Bills the most of any of the AFC East teams


Its hard to hate the bills, feel pity for, wonder when they'll be moved into the CFL, but not hate.
 
2013-08-14 04:33:15 PM  

SenorBenedict: cameroncrazy1984: Brady just went out of practice holding the same knee he injured in 2008. Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease.

Seriously, if he's done for the season I'll pray to Saint Tebow every night.


Old Testament God is striking biatches down.  Why couldn't he have done it last year?  If anybody deserves a biblical smackdown its Buttfumbles.
 
2013-08-14 04:34:09 PM  
I've read on a couple of media outlets where camp visitors are quietly saying the Redbirds are intriguing.  Gil Brandt (who? oh, nobody) was quoted in i think Peter King about how impressed he was with the camp.  you never know.

the in-conference sked is, duh, gonna be tough.  the OOC sked is not terribly intimidating, but there are some other teams (the south) that can make your piggie squeal.  so 25 doesn't bother me.  i'd rather be here than popping my jersey, flossing a top 10 ranking when, farking hell, camp rosters are still 80 or whatever.  lotta cuts left.

RISE UP, RED SEA
 
2013-08-14 04:34:17 PM  

elguerodiablo: SenorBenedict: cameroncrazy1984: Brady just went out of practice holding the same knee he injured in 2008. Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease.

Seriously, if he's done for the season I'll pray to Saint Tebow every night.

Old Testament God is striking biatches down.  Why couldn't he have done it last year?  If anybody deserves a biblical smackdown its Buttfumbles.


Man smiting Sanchez would be like kicking a retarded puppy. Except even the puppy could hold onto the ball better.
 
2013-08-14 04:34:48 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: Treygreen13: Incorrigible Astronaut: What's the point of power rankings that are a) in the preseason, and b) not the Fark official* ESPN rankings? It's not real until GRAF

You aren't gettin' GRAF or TRIV until regular season.

Exactly. Everything's so vanilla right now that the only real reason to move teams up or down is injuries or crazy, last-minute free agent acquisitions.


Eh, Brandon Weeden doing well with vanilla is reason enough to move the Browns up a coupla spots...right Bernie?

"I would be ashamed."

Right, Bernie.
 
2013-08-14 04:35:20 PM  
WHAR JAKE WHAR?
 
2013-08-14 04:35:31 PM  
The job would fall to Mallett before Tebow, so I'd be real worried crossing the street right now if I were him, lol.
 
2013-08-14 04:36:07 PM  

JayCab: You mean it took two whole posts for a Seahawks fan to whine about their being disrespected and having the entire league against them?

You guys are slacking. You need to pay more attention... maybe consider some medications that would help with that.


So no actual argument other than "Y'all complain?" I mean the niners are without Crabtree someone who contributed directly to their offense last year. The Hawks are down Harvin, someone who wasn't even on the team last year. I'd say putting one over the other is a bit of homerism.
 
2013-08-14 04:36:32 PM  

SenorBenedict: I still don't think they'll do anything this year, the surprise team in the west is going to be the Rams. They take the division book it done.


Rams aren't really a surprise team, at least not within the West. going 4-1-1 in the division will do that for you.

elguerodiablo: Old Testament God is striking biatches down.  Why couldn't he have done it last year?  If anybody deserves a biblical smackdown its Buttfumbles.


Ummmm did or did not buttfumble occur last year? Was that not smiting enough?
 
2013-08-14 04:37:02 PM  
chefs are way too low, they are shooting up to the middle of the pack
 
2013-08-14 04:37:50 PM  

robsul82: The job would fall to Mallett before Tebow, so I'd be real worried crossing the street right now if I were him, lol.


I swear he got hurt in their preseason opener? Did he recover?
 
2013-08-14 04:39:23 PM  
Raiders are too damn high
 
2013-08-14 04:39:40 PM  

SenorBenedict: robsul82: The job would fall to Mallett before Tebow, so I'd be real worried crossing the street right now if I were him, lol.

I swear he got hurt in their preseason opener? Did he recover?


He returned to full practice on Monday.
 
2013-08-14 04:39:40 PM  

SenorBenedict: robsul82: The job would fall to Mallett before Tebow, so I'd be real worried crossing the street right now if I were him, lol.

I swear he got hurt in their preseason opener? Did he recover?


maybe miraculous sideline healing is why they got teebus
 
2013-08-14 04:40:01 PM  

farbekrieg: chefs are way too low, they are shooting up to the middle of the pack


Frankenhead is going to take them to the woodshed this year, they'll finish third place in their own division (behind denver and san diego) they'll probably be lucky to be ahead of the Raiders. Andy Reid and Alex Smith aren't going to suddenly make the Chiefs a real boy I'm sorry.
 
2013-08-14 04:40:36 PM  
Coming in at #2 on the Preseason charts... THE DENVER BRONCOS! :D

i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-14 04:40:59 PM  

robsul82: SenorBenedict: robsul82: The job would fall to Mallett before Tebow, so I'd be real worried crossing the street right now if I were him, lol.

I swear he got hurt in their preseason opener? Did he recover?

He returned to full practice on Monday.


Damn it, now I have to hope the bills have a competent team this year. Thanks rob, you just crushed my god damn dreams again. Well you and the bills, but mainly you.
 
2013-08-14 04:42:11 PM  

SenorBenedict: robsul82: SenorBenedict: robsul82: The job would fall to Mallett before Tebow, so I'd be real worried crossing the street right now if I were him, lol.

I swear he got hurt in their preseason opener? Did he recover?

He returned to full practice on Monday.

Damn it, now I have to hope the bills have a competent team this year. Thanks rob, you just crushed my god damn dreams again. Well you and the bills, but mainly you.


There's still 7 hours and 19 minutes left for Tim Tebow's magic QB1-path-clearing birthday surprise!
 
2013-08-14 04:43:11 PM  

SenorBenedict: Damn it, now I have to hope the bills have a competent team this year.


They're gonna be good!

/if and only if they let Kaufman play
//red zone TD machine!
 
2013-08-14 04:43:44 PM  

robsul82: SenorBenedict: robsul82: SenorBenedict: robsul82: The job would fall to Mallett before Tebow, so I'd be real worried crossing the street right now if I were him, lol.

I swear he got hurt in their preseason opener? Did he recover?

He returned to full practice on Monday.

Damn it, now I have to hope the bills have a competent team this year. Thanks rob, you just crushed my god damn dreams again. Well you and the bills, but mainly you.

There's still 7 hours and 19 minutes left for Tim Tebow's magic QB1-path-clearing birthday surprise!


Anyone have Tanya Harding's trailer number? I need to help god out.
 
2013-08-14 04:43:56 PM  

Captain Steroid: Coming in at #2 on the Preseason charts... THE DENVER BRONCOS! :D



i don't "get" the Bronie thing, but.....it really isn't a fark NFL thread wthout our Bronie Brethren.

i don't judge you.  I don't agree with Bornyism, but I accept it.  It takes all kinds.
 
2013-08-14 04:45:06 PM  

SenorBenedict: JayCab: You mean it took two whole posts for a Seahawks fan to whine about their being disrespected and having the entire league against them?

You guys are slacking. You need to pay more attention... maybe consider some medications that would help with that.

So no actual argument other than "Y'all complain?" I mean the niners are without Crabtree someone who contributed directly to their offense last year. The Hawks are down Harvin, someone who wasn't even on the team last year. I'd say putting one over the other is a bit of homerism.


I'm not trying to argue that the Niners aren't going to have difficulties this year, I'm just constantly amused at the little sister routine that SEA fans seem to be stuck in. It's always "why are they picking on us" and "mom, Jimmy's on my side of the back seat" and "dad loves you more than me". That, and trying to argue that beating a 49ers team that had no reason to push themselves in that artificially loud bandbox last season actually means something on future returns.
 
2013-08-14 04:45:34 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Did anyone actually read the descriptions under the rankings? My god, it's awful.


Holy Shiatsnacks! You weren't kidding.  Does that dumbfark get a nickle everytime he uses the word irrespective?

He has to be paying nfl.com to write for them.  The kid that writes sports for the local high school paper has to be 10x better than this and I bet he'd do it for free.
 
2013-08-14 04:46:37 PM  
Man that last sentence Jay, that's some sour grapes son. Sour sour grapes.
 
2013-08-14 04:47:43 PM  

JayCab: That, and trying to argue that beating a 49ers team that had no reason to push themselves in that artificially loud bandbox last season actually means something on future returns.


D'aww, lashing out with anything you can reach for to make excuses for your team getting its ass handed to it.
 
2013-08-14 04:49:13 PM  

IAmRight: JayCab: That, and trying to argue that beating a 49ers team that had no reason to push themselves in that artificially loud bandbox last season actually means something on future returns.

D'aww, lashing out with anything you can reach for to make excuses for your team getting its ass handed to it.


Look the sun was in their eyes, and you didn't say you were playing for real. And those fans should be quiet!
 
2013-08-14 04:51:29 PM  

elguerodiablo: The kid that writes sports for the local high school paper has to be 10x better than this and I bet he'd do it for free.


yeah....i guess his shoutout to Ryan Swope, while heartfelt, is kinda gratuitous....Swope fell to like, the 5th or 6th round this year because, surprise surprise, teams were concerned about his concussion history.  even in minicamp he was held out of a few OTAs because he wasn't feelin ggreat.  and he missed a few practices in actual training camp due to, wait for it, concussion-related symptoms.  so a 6th rounder retired.   guess it is news and the kid seems nice (i think he said he was hoping to get into grad school to be a doctor, post-retirement) so he's not your typical knucklehead, but.......i don't know why he's in a power rankings column.

it isn't like a former heisman trophy nominee is turning heads and garnering attention from Deion Sanders or anything. no names mentioned, Tyrann Matheieu.
 
2013-08-14 04:51:38 PM  
Titans are the best bad team in the league and are going to beat the Dallas Cowboys in the super bowl on a last-second Chris Johnson touchdown (Dallas will luck their way in against the Eagles after RG3 goes down again and the Giants suffer superbowl-host-curse)

well that's my fantasy prediction anyways...
 
2013-08-14 04:52:02 PM  

rickythepenguin: I've read on a couple of media outlets where camp visitors are quietly saying the Redbirds are intriguing.  Gil Brandt (who? oh, nobody) was quoted in i think Peter King about how impressed he was with the camp.  you never know.

the in-conference sked is, duh, gonna be tough.  the OOC sked is not terribly intimidating, but there are some other teams (the south) that can make your piggie squeal.  so 25 doesn't bother me.  i'd rather be here than popping my jersey, flossing a top 10 ranking when, farking hell, camp rosters are still 80 or whatever.  lotta cuts left.

RISE UP, RED SEA


I'm not quite sure what this means, but I'm 99% certain it's dirty.
 
2013-08-14 04:52:30 PM  

IAmRight: JayCab: That, and trying to argue that beating a 49ers team that had no reason to push themselves in that artificially loud bandbox last season actually means something on future returns.

D'aww, lashing out with anything you can reach for to make excuses for your team getting its ass handed to it.


It's so cute how you guys think one meaningless win overrides the results of the season. Though I guess that is pretty much all you get to hang your hat on. Try to actually beat the Falcons this year, so we can see what happens in a game that actually matters.

Though that would actually require the Hawks to win an important game on the road without the opposing QB blowing out his knee...
 
2013-08-14 04:54:21 PM  
As a Seahawks fan I wish we were lower.

Whoever is on top is doomed.

Last year the preseason ranking for Seattle was 27th and San Fran was 19th.
Ravens were 5th
The Eagles were #4.
 
2013-08-14 04:55:15 PM  
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"Tom Brady is now the #1 trending topic in the world, NFL Universe!"
 
2013-08-14 04:55:50 PM  
forshiggles.files.wordpress.com

Woo #2.
 
2013-08-14 04:56:17 PM  

netweavr: I'm not quite sure what this means, but I'm 99% certain it's dirty.



I'll crack you in half like a shotgun....then I'll make that piggie squeal.
 
2013-08-14 04:56:50 PM  

litespeed74: As a Seahawks fan I wish we were lower.

Whoever is on top is doomed.

Last year the preseason ranking for Seattle was 27th and San Fran was 19th.
Ravens were 5th
The Eagles were #4.


So the ravens winning the superbowl totally means uhh shiat I have no idea what kind of madness you are on.
 
2013-08-14 04:57:30 PM  

rickythepenguin: netweavr: I'm not quite sure what this means, but I'm 99% certain it's dirty.


I'll crack you in half like a shotgun....then I'll make that piggie squeal.


You're going to hump his bowels? Man people in the south are weird.
 
2013-08-14 04:59:47 PM  
Lions below the Browns? Really NFL? Do you hate Detroit that much? I mean, I know their not your darling Cowboys, Packers, 49ers, Steelers, Patriots, or any NY team, but puh-leeeze.

Also "power rankings" this early in the year are completely unrealistic. Most of these are based on what the team record was the previous year, their draft picks (which are a crap shoot at best), and free agent acquisitions. In the college game, they do the BCS rankings (the ones that actually matter) a few weeks into the season, and they are more or less accurate.
 
2013-08-14 05:00:32 PM  

JayCab: IAmRight: JayCab: That, and trying to argue that beating a 49ers team that had no reason to push themselves in that artificially loud bandbox last season actually means something on future returns.

D'aww, lashing out with anything you can reach for to make excuses for your team getting its ass handed to it.

It's so cute how you guys think one meaningless win overrides the results of the season. Though I guess that is pretty much all you get to hang your hat on. Try to actually beat the Falcons this year, so we can see what happens in a game that actually matters.

Though that would actually require the Hawks to win an important game on the road without the opposing QB blowing out his knee...


I can't hear you over the "artificial" crowd noise.
And how 'bout them Rams??  Bugger of a team 'eh????
 
2013-08-14 05:02:03 PM  

litespeed74: As a Seahawks fan I wish we were lower.

Whoever is on top is doomed.

Last year the preseason ranking for Seattle was 27th and San Fran was 19th.
Ravens were 5th
The Eagles were #4.


In what dumb universe were the Niners 19th last year?
 
2013-08-14 05:02:06 PM  

Aezetyr: In the college game, they do the BCS rankings (the ones that actually matter) a few weeks into the season, and they are more or less accurate.



i love all the "watch list" stories we'll get.  nagurski, heisman, outland, walter camp, bednarik, ray guy, lou groza, etc.

and nothing makes sense like pre-season all americans.

college sports is stupid half the time.
 
2013-08-14 05:02:33 PM  

JayCab: Try to actually beat the Falcons this year, so we can see what happens in a game that actually matters.


Will do. You try to beat the Rams at some point.
 
2013-08-14 05:03:23 PM  

rickythepenguin: Captain Steroid: Coming in at #2 on the Preseason charts... THE DENVER BRONCOS! :D


i don't "get" the Bronie thing, but.....it really isn't a fark NFL thread wthout our Bronie Brethren.

i don't judge you.  I don't agree with Bornyism, but I accept it.  It takes all kinds.


Like much of Fark, it's all about beating a long dead (pastel colored) horse well past the point anyone normal finds it remotely interesting.

Anyway, like all preseason rankings these are worthless. Let's at least determine who is actually on each team before we worry about arbitrarily ranking them. On paper, there are like 14 Bowl caliber teams (Niners, Hawks, Falcons, Saints, Cowboys, Giants, Packers, Bears, Broncos, Texans, Colts, Ravens, Bengals, Patriots) and about 6 teams in full rebuild mode (Raiders, Chiefs, Jets, Jags, Bills and the Eagles). The rest of the teams are solidly in the about .500 club and could climb into SB contention or drop into Suck for Clowney mode. Broad groupings are about all we can realistically determine right now till, you know, we figure out who's actually going to be on each team.
 
2013-08-14 05:04:19 PM  

IAmRight: JayCab: Try to actually beat the Falcons this year, so we can see what happens in a game that actually matters.

Will do. You try to beat the Rams at some point.


Those games don't matter! Clearly you need to stop being a seahawks homer and admit when the Niners lose a game its only because they are doing so to save time. Its just like speed running megaman, take some damage to save time.
 
2013-08-14 05:05:34 PM  

js34603: On paper, there are like 14 Bowl caliber teams (Niners, Hawks, Falcons, Saints, Cowboys, Giants, Packers, Bears, Broncos, Texans, Colts, Ravens, Bengals, Patriots)



uhh......what?
 
2013-08-14 05:06:21 PM  

SenorBenedict: when the Niners lose a game its only because they are doing so to save time


Nahhh.  those are just trap games.
 
2013-08-14 05:07:32 PM  

rickythepenguin: SenorBenedict: when the Niners lose a game its only because they are doing so to save time

Nahhh.  those are just trap games.


Those games appear to be a woman but in fact have a penis? I think I misunderstand what a trap is.
 
2013-08-14 05:07:50 PM  

SenorBenedict: farbekrieg: chefs are way too low, they are shooting up to the middle of the pack

Frankenhead is going to take them to the woodshed this year, they'll finish third place in their own division (behind denver and san diego) they'll probably be lucky to be ahead of the Raiders. Andy Reid and Alex Smith aren't going to suddenly make the Chiefs a real boy I'm sorry.


they already had a decent running game and a stud wr, they just didn't have a qb to get them the ball or a line, and if you want to talk about making a system qb, Andy Reid is definitely your guy.

Defensively they were solid (albeit over rated) but I would not be surprised by a 7-9ish season of the chefs, and the super chargers are going to be disappointing. So 16-20ish, which is way off the number 28 seed they are listed at.

/falcons are still probably too high
//go falcons!
 
2013-08-14 05:08:17 PM  
extras.mnginteractive.com

Apparently not happy with #2 ranking.
 
2013-08-14 05:10:08 PM  
I think we got a winner in town!

/Fark the ghosts of Buddy Ryans Past
 
2013-08-14 05:11:12 PM  

farbekrieg: SenorBenedict: farbekrieg: chefs are way too low, they are shooting up to the middle of the pack

Frankenhead is going to take them to the woodshed this year, they'll finish third place in their own division (behind denver and san diego) they'll probably be lucky to be ahead of the Raiders. Andy Reid and Alex Smith aren't going to suddenly make the Chiefs a real boy I'm sorry.

they already had a decent running game and a stud wr, they just didn't have a qb to get them the ball or a line, and if you want to talk about making a system qb, Andy Reid is definitely your guy.

Defensively they were solid (albeit over rated) but I would not be surprised by a 7-9ish season of the chefs, and the super chargers are going to be disappointing. So 16-20ish, which is way off the number 28 seed they are listed at.

/falcons are still probably too high
//go falcons!


They had a decent running game? I mean come on didn't they only lead like 1 game last year? Not win mind you, but actually lead the game for any period of time. I just don't think the Walrus and a Niner dropping will suddenly make them grow into a real team.

The Chargers got rid of Norm Turner and picked up the best pick of the draft in Manti Teo, they'll chase denver all the way to the finish.
 
2013-08-14 05:11:24 PM  
You know you're big time when Vegas puts a hold on any Pats action for the time being, lol.
 
2013-08-14 05:12:53 PM  

rickythepenguin: js34603: On paper, there are like 14 Bowl caliber teams (Niners, Hawks, Falcons, Saints, Cowboys, Giants, Packers, Bears, Broncos, Texans, Colts, Ravens, Bengals, Patriots)


uhh......what?


Sorry to be a homer here, but the Saints are legit.  Last year was a fluke (for obvious reasons).  And a 7-9 fluke at that.
 
2013-08-14 05:13:25 PM  

SenorBenedict: rickythepenguin: SenorBenedict: when the Niners lose a game its only because they are doing so to save time

Nahhh.  those are just trap games.

Those games appear to be a woman but in fact have a penis? I think I misunderstand what a trap is.


do not GIS pussy trap.   FUTANARI WARNING!
 
2013-08-14 05:15:35 PM  

downstairs: rickythepenguin: js34603: On paper, there are like 14 Bowl caliber teams (Niners, Hawks, Falcons, Saints, Cowboys, Giants, Packers, Bears, Broncos, Texans, Colts, Ravens, Bengals, Patriots)


uhh......what?

Sorry to be a homer here, but the Saints are legit.  Last year was a fluke (for obvious reasons).  And a 7-9 fluke at that.


Would you be willing to put a bounty on that?
 
2013-08-14 05:17:31 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: I think we got a winner in town!


"All he does is catch touchdowns!"


robsul82: You know you're big time when Vegas puts a hold on any Pats action for the time being, lol.


hahahahahahahaahahaahahaha that's farking funny.


downstairs: Sorry to be a homer here, but the Saints are legit. Last year was a fluke (for obvious reasons). And a 7-9 fluke at that.


the South will be wide open, I grant you that.  but super bowl?  on paper?  dreamin's free, as they say.
 
2013-08-14 05:17:50 PM  

SenorBenedict: Seahawks won't make the play offs, I saw the preseason game, the refs got the memo.


Like that sweet helmet to helmet that was called on a perfectly legal tackle?

Can't help it if the other team is full of pussies.
 
2013-08-14 05:20:05 PM  

rickythepenguin: robsul82: You know you're big time when Vegas puts a hold on any Pats action for the time being, lol.

hahahahahahahaahahaahahaha that's farking funny.


Funnier - Ryan Mallett's $60M contract with the Browns after leading the Pats to a 10-6 division title, lol.
 
2013-08-14 05:20:18 PM  

stappawho: SenorBenedict: Seahawks won't make the play offs, I saw the preseason game, the refs got the memo.

Like that sweet helmet to helmet that was called on a perfectly legal tackle?

Can't help it if the other team is full of pussies.


There were 3 early non calls against the seahawks. I mean shiat I hate ref complaining as much as the next guy, but just because someone is paranoid doesn't mean they are wrong.
 
2013-08-14 05:22:02 PM  

robsul82: rickythepenguin: robsul82: You know you're big time when Vegas puts a hold on any Pats action for the time being, lol.

hahahahahahahaahahaahahaha that's farking funny.

Funnier - Ryan Mallett's $60M contract with the Browns after leading the Pats to a 10-6 division title, lol.


You watch the browns will surprise you this year.

Surprise in a way like "Damn can you guys at least pretend you're a pro team?"
 
2013-08-14 05:23:34 PM  

SenorBenedict: robsul82: rickythepenguin: robsul82: You know you're big time when Vegas puts a hold on any Pats action for the time being, lol.

hahahahahahahaahahaahahaha that's farking funny.

Funnier - Ryan Mallett's $60M contract with the Browns after leading the Pats to a 10-6 division title, lol.

You watch the browns will surprise you this year.

Surprise in a way like "Damn can you guys at least pretend you're a pro team?"


Should've stuck with McCoy.

/who, by the way, nobody's talking about right now
 
2013-08-14 05:24:11 PM  

JayCab: SenorBenedict: JayCab: You mean it took two whole posts for a Seahawks fan to whine about their being disrespected and having the entire league against them?

You guys are slacking. You need to pay more attention... maybe consider some medications that would help with that.

So no actual argument other than "Y'all complain?" I mean the niners are without Crabtree someone who contributed directly to their offense last year. The Hawks are down Harvin, someone who wasn't even on the team last year. I'd say putting one over the other is a bit of homerism.

I'm not trying to argue that the Niners aren't going to have difficulties this year, I'm just constantly amused at the little sister routine that SEA fans seem to be stuck in. It's always "why are they picking on us" and "mom, Jimmy's on my side of the back seat" and "dad loves you more than me". That, and trying to argue that beating a 49ers team that had no reason to push themselves in that artificially loud bandbox last season actually means something on future returns.


Record since Seahawks joined NFC West:

SF - 80-95-1 - 3 playoff appearances, 4-3 playoff record, 1 SB
SEA - 92-84 - 7 playoff appearances, 6-7 playoff record, 1 SB

Who's the little brother?
 
2013-08-14 05:24:58 PM  
Nah they should have stuck with Quinn. Did you see his preseason performance? Brought a tear to my eye.
 
2013-08-14 05:25:11 PM  
Jonathan Kraft called into local Boston radio to discuss injury - "I don't think it's serious, but I don't know."

/compelling
//and rich
 
2013-08-14 05:26:31 PM  

downstairs: rickythepenguin: js34603: On paper, there are like 14 Bowl caliber teams (Niners, Hawks, Falcons, Saints, Cowboys, Giants, Packers, Bears, Broncos, Texans, Colts, Ravens, Bengals, Patriots)


uhh......what?

Sorry to be a homer here, but the Saints are legit.  Last year was a fluke (for obvious reasons).  And a 7-9 fluke at that.


theantiroom.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-08-14 05:26:57 PM  

Shame Us: JayCab: SenorBenedict: JayCab: You mean it took two whole posts for a Seahawks fan to whine about their being disrespected and having the entire league against them?

You guys are slacking. You need to pay more attention... maybe consider some medications that would help with that.

So no actual argument other than "Y'all complain?" I mean the niners are without Crabtree someone who contributed directly to their offense last year. The Hawks are down Harvin, someone who wasn't even on the team last year. I'd say putting one over the other is a bit of homerism.

I'm not trying to argue that the Niners aren't going to have difficulties this year, I'm just constantly amused at the little sister routine that SEA fans seem to be stuck in. It's always "why are they picking on us" and "mom, Jimmy's on my side of the back seat" and "dad loves you more than me". That, and trying to argue that beating a 49ers team that had no reason to push themselves in that artificially loud bandbox last season actually means something on future returns.

Record since Seahawks joined NFC West:

SF - 80-95-1 - 3 playoff appearances, 4-3 playoff record, 1 SB
SEA - 92-84 - 7 playoff appearances, 6-7 playoff record, 1 SB

Who's the little brother?


Well to be fair to the Niners when the Seahawks got moved to the NFC west they were a power house... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no I can't make that joke, not from a team that was lead by god damn John Kitna, Rick Mirer, and Paul Mcquire's brother.
 
2013-08-14 05:28:10 PM  

robsul82: Jonathan Kraft called into local Boston radio to discuss injury - "I don't think it's serious, but I don't know."


I'm not a Patriot hater, so this isn't gloating, but.....in the event that Brady misses any games due to this injury, would there be any doubt this was the all time wrost NFL off-season? Welker, the Hernandez thing, the vaunted "patriot way" fiction being exposed, and then a possible injury?  Brady's no spring chicken, iether.  this is his 13th season.  he's an old man by NFL standards.  any injury is going to be harder to come back from.
 
2013-08-14 05:28:18 PM  

SenorBenedict: The Chargers got rid of Norm Turner and picked up the best pick of the draft in Manti Teo, they'll chase denver all the way to the finish.


notsureifserious.jpg

also Jamal Charles is legit, not in the same class as Adrian but that next tier of elite guys who you only suspect of using peds.
 
2013-08-14 05:29:45 PM  

rickythepenguin: js34603: On paper, there are like 14 Bowl caliber teams (Niners, Hawks, Falcons, Saints, Cowboys, Giants, Packers, Bears, Broncos, Texans, Colts, Ravens, Bengals, Patriots)


uhh......what?


The Saints could win all their games 42-35...could, I wouldn't bet on it but I see the possibility.

The Cowboys perennially underachieve, one year they are actually going to achieve. No reason this couldn't be their year, they have talent. Their defense will be better now that theyre healthy and the offense is Super Bowl caliber.

The Bears and Bengals both have chances to win their divisions and get at least one home playoff game, and if you get that you got a chance. Cinci's defense is legit, Red Rocket will determine how far they go.

As pointed out above no one had the Ravens or Niners going all the way last year. The number of teams who can go on a run and win it all is a lot bigger than you think. Hell I can think of at least two more teams I didn't list that could make a run.

/Pittsburgh and Washington
 
2013-08-14 05:29:46 PM  

SenorBenedict: Shame Us: JayCab: SenorBenedict: JayCab: You mean it took two whole posts for a Seahawks fan to whine about their being disrespected and having the entire league against them?

You guys are slacking. You need to pay more attention... maybe consider some medications that would help with that.

So no actual argument other than "Y'all complain?" I mean the niners are without Crabtree someone who contributed directly to their offense last year. The Hawks are down Harvin, someone who wasn't even on the team last year. I'd say putting one over the other is a bit of homerism.

I'm not trying to argue that the Niners aren't going to have difficulties this year, I'm just constantly amused at the little sister routine that SEA fans seem to be stuck in. It's always "why are they picking on us" and "mom, Jimmy's on my side of the back seat" and "dad loves you more than me". That, and trying to argue that beating a 49ers team that had no reason to push themselves in that artificially loud bandbox last season actually means something on future returns.

Record since Seahawks joined NFC West:

SF - 80-95-1 - 3 playoff appearances, 4-3 playoff record, 1 SB
SEA - 92-84 - 7 playoff appearances, 6-7 playoff record, 1 SB

Who's the little brother?

Well to be fair to the Niners when the Seahawks got moved to the NFC west they were a power house... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no I can't make that joke, not from a team that was lead by god damn John Kitna, Rick Mirer, and Paul Mcquire's brother.


Who the hell are you talking about? Mark McGwire's brother Dan McGwire?
 
2013-08-14 05:30:07 PM  

farbekrieg: SenorBenedict: The Chargers got rid of Norm Turner and picked up the best pick of the draft in Manti Teo, they'll chase denver all the way to the finish.

notsureifserious.jpg

also Jamal Charles is legit, not in the same class as Adrian but that next tier of elite guys who you only suspect of using peds.


What do I have throw in a Brent Farve joke to make it more obvious? Come on I watched their third string get lit up by Tavaris Jackson, clearly the chargers have more holes in their game than Bernie Kosar's daughters had dicks in her.
 
2013-08-14 05:31:27 PM  

rickythepenguin: robsul82: Jonathan Kraft called into local Boston radio to discuss injury - "I don't think it's serious, but I don't know."

I'm not a Patriot hater, so this isn't gloating, but.....in the event that Brady misses any games due to this injury, would there be any doubt this was the all time wrost NFL off-season? Welker, the Hernandez thing, the vaunted "patriot way" fiction being exposed, and then a possible injury?  Brady's no spring chicken, iether.  this is his 13th season.  he's an old man by NFL standards.  any injury is going to be harder to come back from.


You're asking me about shiatty offseasons?
 
2013-08-14 05:31:29 PM  
Yeah wow I have no idea why I said Paul Mcguire, but yes Dan McQuire he got drafted by the hawks in the 90's I believe he even started a game or two much to everyone in Seattles eternal shame.
 
2013-08-14 05:31:29 PM  
Worth noting that Dan McGwire was out of football by 1996...6 years before the Seahawks joined the NFC West.
 
2013-08-14 05:32:54 PM  
Tebow's 26 today, Tom Brady wears the number 12, 2 X 6 = 12...

encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2013-08-14 05:33:24 PM  

Shame Us: Worth noting that Dan McGwire was out of football by 1996...6 years before the Seahawks joined the NFC West.


Well I wasn't saying who was currently on the team, just that the Hawks weren't exactly a freight train of a team when they joined the NFC west. I mean I think prior to Make a Wish perennial all star Matt Hasselbeck joining the team David Kreig held most of their passing records.
 
2013-08-14 05:34:56 PM  
The poll... IS TOO DAMNED EARLY!
 
2013-08-14 05:37:04 PM  

js34603: As pointed out above no one had the Ravens or Niners going all the way last year. The number of teams who can go on a run and win it all is a lot bigger than you think. Hell I can think of at least two more teams I didn't list that could make a run.


Why do people keep saying this?  Sure, no one saw Kaepernick coming, but the Niners were a football to the knee from the Superb Owl the year before.
 
2013-08-14 05:37:18 PM  

SenorBenedict: Shame Us: Worth noting that Dan McGwire was out of football by 1996...6 years before the Seahawks joined the NFC West.

Well I wasn't saying who was currently on the team, just that the Hawks weren't exactly a freight train of a team when they joined the NFC west. I mean I think prior to Make a Wish perennial all star Matt Hasselbeck joining the team David Kreig held most of their passing records.


This is true. from 1995 - 2001 (the years immediately preceding the move to the NFC, Seattle was 55-57 with 6 of the 7 seasons endeing somewhere between 7-9 and 9-7 and one playoff appearance (a 20-17 loss to Miami). Nearly the definition of mediocre.
 
2013-08-14 05:38:02 PM  

robsul82: You're asking me about shiatty offseasons?


oh shiat, i forgot.  i thought you were a pats fan.  and i obviously blanked on the l'affaire du Saints but....i still think the pats would be worse.  two lives ruined.  the boutny thing, that was just jackfarkery, and alleged jackfarkery at that, in the wake of Poppa Tags flipping the script on your boy Rog.

whatever happened to Vilma's defamation lawsuit, by the way?

robsul82: Tebow's 26 today, Tom Brady wears the number 12, 2 X 6 = 12...


that's like when the Steelers went to the super bowl a few years back (i was saying just recnetly), there was all this, "ZOMG BEN WEARS #7, THIS WOULD BE THE 7TH LOMBARDI TROPHY, THIS IS BENS' 7TH YEAR IN THE LEAGUE, THE AFC CHAMPIONSHIP DRVIE HE THREW 7 COMPLETIONS ON THE LAST DRIVE....THAT BEGAN ON THE 7 YARD LINE....MIKE TOMLIN WAS BORN ON THE 7TH DAY...."

it was just these stupid armchari numerologists finding stupid 7 analogues to the game.  and of course that ass got waxed.
 
2013-08-14 05:40:14 PM  
Wait, there are really people that are getting validation from 10 minutes of a single preseason game?

Too damned early is right.
 
2013-08-14 05:40:34 PM  

rickythepenguin: whatever happened to Vilma's defamation lawsuit, by the way?


Couldn't break the CBA.

rickythepenguin: that's like when the Steelers went to the super bowl a few years back (i was saying just recnetly), there was all this, "ZOMG BEN WEARS #7, THIS WOULD BE THE 7TH LOMBARDI TROPHY, THIS IS BENS' 7TH YEAR IN THE LEAGUE, THE AFC CHAMPIONSHIP DRVIE HE THREW 7 COMPLETIONS ON THE LAST DRIVE....THAT BEGAN ON THE 7 YARD LINE....MIKE TOMLIN WAS BORN ON THE 7TH DAY...."

it was just these stupid armchari numerologists finding stupid 7 analogues to the game. and of course that ass got waxed.


Numbers ARE fun, lol.  It's when people at the bar clearly think it's real that you start getting nervous.
 
2013-08-14 05:41:51 PM  
"NFL source" of CBS Boston guy on Twitter says Brady's fine.
 
2013-08-14 05:42:21 PM  

robsul82: Couldn't break the CBA.


Huh.  I didn't know that.  i thought the suit was still bumping around.
 
2013-08-14 05:46:34 PM  

robsul82: "NFL source" of CBS Boston guy on Twitter says Brady's fine.

 
2013-08-14 05:47:15 PM  

elguerodiablo: robsul82: "NFL source" of CBS Boston guy on Twitter says Brady's fine.



*ferris bueller quote ending in "i guess it's pretty serious"*
 
2013-08-14 05:48:24 PM  

robsul82: rickythepenguin: that's like when the Steelers went to the super bowl a few years back (i was saying just recnetly), there was all this, "ZOMG BEN WEARS #7, THIS WOULD BE THE 7TH LOMBARDI TROPHY, THIS IS BENS' 7TH YEAR IN THE LEAGUE, THE AFC CHAMPIONSHIP DRVIE HE THREW 7 COMPLETIONS ON THE LAST DRIVE....THAT BEGAN ON THE 7 YARD LINE....MIKE TOMLIN WAS BORN ON THE 7TH DAY...."

it was just these stupid armchari numerologists finding stupid 7 analogues to the game. and of course that ass got waxed.

Numbers ARE fun, lol.  It's when people at the bar clearly think it's real that you start getting nervous.


What, you guys didn't like Tebow going for 316 yards and throwing the game-winning pass to the guy born on Christmas in his first playoff game?
 
2013-08-14 05:48:42 PM  
Damnit Miller!

Go Broncos.
 
2013-08-14 05:49:24 PM  

rickythepenguin: elguerodiablo: robsul82: "NFL source" of CBS Boston guy on Twitter says Brady's fine.

*ferris bueller quote ending in "i guess it's pretty serious"*


Well, when Butler blew his ACL in practice, he jogged off on his own power and Payton originally said "he just banged knees with Ingram, he's gonna be fine."  I don't believe it until Florio posts it on PFT, lol.
 
2013-08-14 05:51:05 PM  
Meanwhile, the Pats fan who recorded Pats' fans nightmare on his iPhone fan is @ChadKopcak.  Amusing reading his feed as his 15 minutes have dawned.
 
2013-08-14 05:51:41 PM  

robsul82: Meanwhile, the Pats fan who recorded Pats' fans nightmare on his iPhone fan 4 is @ChadKopcak.  Amusing reading his feed as his 15 minutes have dawned.


FTFM

/fan
 
2013-08-14 05:55:03 PM  

elguerodiablo: robsul82: "NFL source" of CBS Boston guy on Twitter says Brady's fine.


i was trying to post the pick of Brady celebritorily humping one of his receivers bit it got tossed.  Guess you guys will have to use your imaginations.
 
2013-08-14 05:57:29 PM  

robsul82: robsul82: Meanwhile, the Pats fan who recorded Pats' fans nightmare on his iPhone fan 4 is @ChadKopcak.  Amusing reading his feed as his 15 minutes have dawned.

FTFM

/fan


omg, 4x3=12, brady won 3 superbowls
 
2013-08-14 06:02:16 PM  

Shame Us: Record since Seahawks joined NFC West:

SF - 80-95-1 - 3 playoff appearances, 4-3 playoff record, 1 SB
SEA - 92-84 - 7 playoff appearances, 6-7 playoff record, 1 SB

Who's the little brother?


That's cute, SEA fans are trying to take credit for the 49ers spending 15 years rebuilding rather than all of the other obvious REAL factors that caused it.  If we're going to cherry pick statistics, let's just look at the last 2 years why don't we.
 
2013-08-14 06:04:59 PM  

spiderpaz: Shame Us: Record since Seahawks joined NFC West:

SF - 80-95-1 - 3 playoff appearances, 4-3 playoff record, 1 SB
SEA - 92-84 - 7 playoff appearances, 6-7 playoff record, 1 SB

Who's the little brother?

That's cute, SEA fans are trying to take credit for the 49ers spending 15 years rebuilding rather than all of the other obvious REAL factors that caused it.  If we're going to cherry pick statistics, let's just look at the last 2 years why don't we.


www.bccourier.com
 
2013-08-14 06:13:06 PM  
MRI negative, Brady day-to-day from Schefter.   Let out that breath, Pats fans.
 
2013-08-14 06:13:39 PM  
Well he did say if we were going to make his team look really good we'd look at the ones that best benefit his narrative.
 
2013-08-14 06:22:59 PM  

robsul82: MRI negative, Brady day-to-day from Schefter.   Let out that breath, Pats fans.


Well, he's not gonna play in this weekend's game, I bet.
 
2013-08-14 06:25:24 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: robsul82: MRI negative, Brady day-to-day from Schefter.   Let out that breath, Pats fans.

Well, he's not gonna play in this weekend's game, I bet.


Damn it I had the briefest of hopes. And then like a Bills pass to wide open receiver dropped in the flat, my hope was gone.
 
2013-08-14 06:27:01 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Well, he's not gonna play in this weekend's game, I bet.



"They said to the woman, "We no longer believe just because of what you said; now we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this man really is the Savior of the world Patriot Nation"

~ John 4:42, NIV
 
2013-08-14 06:28:10 PM  
If you care about preseason rankings, you need to DIAF.
 
2013-08-14 06:30:35 PM  

Shame Us: spiderpaz: Shame Us: Record since Seahawks joined NFC West:

SF - 80-95-1 - 3 playoff appearances, 4-3 playoff record, 1 SB
SEA - 92-84 - 7 playoff appearances, 6-7 playoff record, 1 SB

Who's the little brother?

That's cute, SEA fans are trying to take credit for the 49ers spending 15 years rebuilding rather than all of the other obvious REAL factors that caused it.  If we're going to cherry pick statistics, let's just look at the last 2 years why don't we.

[www.bccourier.com image 350x263]


Yeah, when neither team won a Super Bowl. Doesn't matter all that much now, does it?
 
2013-08-14 06:30:56 PM  

PowerSlacker: If you care about preseason rankings, you need to DIAF.


Look what else is there to talk about sports wise in August?
 
2013-08-14 06:30:56 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: robsul82: MRI negative, Brady day-to-day from Schefter.   Let out that breath, Pats fans.

Well, he's not gonna play in this weekend's game, I bet.


I'm cool with it.  He's got to be on the field to have his TD pass streak broken, after all, heh.
 
2013-08-14 06:38:43 PM  

edgesrealm: Shame Us: spiderpaz: Shame Us: Record since Seahawks joined NFC West:

SF - 80-95-1 - 3 playoff appearances, 4-3 playoff record, 1 SB
SEA - 92-84 - 7 playoff appearances, 6-7 playoff record, 1 SB

Who's the little brother?

That's cute, SEA fans are trying to take credit for the 49ers spending 15 years rebuilding rather than all of the other obvious REAL factors that caused it.  If we're going to cherry pick statistics, let's just look at the last 2 years why don't we.

[www.bccourier.com image 350x263]

Yeah, when neither team won a Super Bowl. Doesn't matter all that much now, does it?


Not outside of the Northwest, no. I still don't know WTF all that means. Seems like the natural cutoff to start counting from the season both teams were in the same division for a number of reasons.
 
2013-08-14 06:39:54 PM  

SenorBenedict: PowerSlacker: If you care about preseason rankings, you need to DIAF.

Look what else is there to talk about sports wise in August?


Nothing.  It's the worst sports month of the year.
 
2013-08-14 06:44:15 PM  
The Niners are very good. The Seahawks are very good too. In fact, those two are the best teams in the NFC (if not NFL). The Niners are probably slightly better. It's going to be fun watching them play.

/enough of the back and forth, kids
//But then again, damn are Hawks fans touchy and uppity.
 
2013-08-14 06:44:18 PM  

PowerSlacker: SenorBenedict: PowerSlacker: If you care about preseason rankings, you need to DIAF.

Look what else is there to talk about sports wise in August?

Nothing.  It's the worst sports month of the year.


MLS is just starting to get cracking on the playoff push.
 
2013-08-14 06:45:40 PM  

Shame Us: edgesrealm: Shame Us: spiderpaz: Shame Us: Record since Seahawks joined NFC West:

SF - 80-95-1 - 3 playoff appearances, 4-3 playoff record, 1 SB
SEA - 92-84 - 7 playoff appearances, 6-7 playoff record, 1 SB

Who's the little brother?

That's cute, SEA fans are trying to take credit for the 49ers spending 15 years rebuilding rather than all of the other obvious REAL factors that caused it.  If we're going to cherry pick statistics, let's just look at the last 2 years why don't we.

[www.bccourier.com image 350x263]

Yeah, when neither team won a Super Bowl. Doesn't matter all that much now, does it?

Not outside of the Northwest, no. I still don't know WTF all that means. Seems like the natural cutoff to start counting from the season both teams were in the same division for a number of reasons.


I can see why naturally you'd want to start counting after the 49ers were done with their 5 SuperBowl wins, and were already in decline and also not focus on how much they've been kicking ass the last 2 seasons.  That's what cherry picking is all about dumbass.
 
2013-08-14 06:46:56 PM  

Shame Us: PowerSlacker: SenorBenedict: PowerSlacker: If you care about preseason rankings, you need to DIAF.

Look what else is there to talk about sports wise in August?

Nothing.  It's the worst sports month of the year.

MLS is just starting to get cracking on the playoff push.


Right and the WNBA is also going on in NO ONE GIVES A shiat LAND!
 
2013-08-14 06:47:47 PM  
Go stillers.  I think it's gonna be a long year. Who knows, I think they're gonna be good, and they suck, I think they're gonna suck, and they make the playoffs. I don't do predictions anymore. Goddammit.
 
2013-08-14 06:48:53 PM  

spiderpaz: Shame Us: edgesrealm: Shame Us: spiderpaz: Shame Us: Record since Seahawks joined NFC West:

SF - 80-95-1 - 3 playoff appearances, 4-3 playoff record, 1 SB
SEA - 92-84 - 7 playoff appearances, 6-7 playoff record, 1 SB

Who's the little brother?

That's cute, SEA fans are trying to take credit for the 49ers spending 15 years rebuilding rather than all of the other obvious REAL factors that caused it.  If we're going to cherry pick statistics, let's just look at the last 2 years why don't we.

[www.bccourier.com image 350x263]

Yeah, when neither team won a Super Bowl. Doesn't matter all that much now, does it?

Not outside of the Northwest, no. I still don't know WTF all that means. Seems like the natural cutoff to start counting from the season both teams were in the same division for a number of reasons.

I can see why naturally you'd want to start counting after the 49ers were done with their 5 SuperBowl wins, and were already in decline and also not focus on how much they've been kicking ass the last 2 seasons.  That's what cherry picking is all about dumbass.


He selected from when the Seahawks became a part of the niners division till now. So yes completely cherry picking a 15 year spawn.

Son do you know what cherry picking is? Because selecting a consecutive 15 year span usually does not apply.
 
2013-08-14 06:48:54 PM  

SenorBenedict: PowerSlacker: If you care about preseason rankings, you need to DIAF.

Look what else is there to talk about sports wise in August?


The NHL is getting closer...

::runs, ducks out of thread::
 
2013-08-14 06:49:41 PM  

SenorBenedict: Shame Us: PowerSlacker: SenorBenedict: PowerSlacker: If you care about preseason rankings, you need to DIAF.

Look what else is there to talk about sports wise in August?

Nothing.  It's the worst sports month of the year.

MLS is just starting to get cracking on the playoff push.

Right and the WNBA is also going on in NO ONE GIVES A shiat LAND!


Hey, that is the only sport that Minnesota can manage to win a championship in.

GO LYNX!!!!
 
2013-08-14 06:52:57 PM  

Doogles4221: SenorBenedict: Shame Us: PowerSlacker: SenorBenedict: PowerSlacker: If you care about preseason rankings, you need to DIAF.

Look what else is there to talk about sports wise in August?

Nothing.  It's the worst sports month of the year.

MLS is just starting to get cracking on the playoff push.

Right and the WNBA is also going on in NO ONE GIVES A shiat LAND!

Hey, that is the only sport that Minnesota can manage to win a championship in.

GO LYNX!!!!


Yeah WNBA titles are the only thing Seattle has anymore as well. Well that and whatever the fark the sounder claim to win every year that makes no sense.
 
2013-08-14 06:54:41 PM  

spiderpaz: Shame Us: Record since Seahawks joined NFC West:

SF - 80-95-1 - 3 playoff appearances, 4-3 playoff record, 1 SB
SEA - 92-84 - 7 playoff appearances, 6-7 playoff record, 1 SB

Who's the little brother?

That's cute, SEA fans are trying to take credit for the 49ers spending 15 years rebuilding rather than all of the other obvious REAL factors that caused it.  If we're going to cherry pick statistics, let's just look at the last 2 years why don't we.


So, you are saying that when the two teams joined the same division is not a good point to start a comparison?  You know, when they play each other two times a year.

We could extend back to when competent ownership purchased the Seahawks.
 
2013-08-14 06:58:03 PM  

spiderpaz: Shame Us: edgesrealm: Shame Us: spiderpaz: Shame Us: Record since Seahawks joined NFC West:

SF - 80-95-1 - 3 playoff appearances, 4-3 playoff record, 1 SB
SEA - 92-84 - 7 playoff appearances, 6-7 playoff record, 1 SB

Who's the little brother?

That's cute, SEA fans are trying to take credit for the 49ers spending 15 years rebuilding rather than all of the other obvious REAL factors that caused it.  If we're going to cherry pick statistics, let's just look at the last 2 years why don't we.

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Yeah, when neither team won a Super Bowl. Doesn't matter all that much now, does it?

Not outside of the Northwest, no. I still don't know WTF all that means. Seems like the natural cutoff to start counting from the season both teams were in the same division for a number of reasons.

I can see why naturally you'd want to start counting after the 49ers were done with their 5 SuperBowl wins, and were already in decline and also not focus on how much they've been kicking ass the last 2 seasons.  That's what cherry picking is all about dumbass.


trollolololollololol

An 11-year, 176-game sample size is hardly cherry-picking, little man. It doesn't make any sense at all to start from the season when they began to play at least 12 games a season against the same opponents (4 against the Rams/Cards, 4 vs. same NFC Division, 4 vs same AFC Division). No, that would be dumb.
 
2013-08-14 07:00:20 PM  

SenorBenedict: Son do you know what cherry picking is? Because selecting a consecutive 15 year span usually does not apply.


The inferiority complex that Seahawks fans have towards the Niners rivals the one the RedSox had of the Yankees from 1918-2004. It's completely understandable of course, given that the Seahawks franchise has never been worth a single god damn thing, ever, and the Niners are on any short list for the pre-eminent franchise in the history of the NFL. But it's still annoying.
 
2013-08-14 07:07:45 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Go stillers.  I think it's gonna be a long year. Who knows, I think they're gonna be good, and they suck, I think they're gonna suck, and they make the playoffs. I don't do predictions anymore. Goddammit.


Just do what I do...predict they'll suck every year. If they're good, you're happy and don't care you got your prediction wrong. If they suck, well hey at least you predicted they'd suck.

/I don't see how they win more than 4 games this year
 
2013-08-14 07:10:44 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: SenorBenedict: Son do you know what cherry picking is? Because selecting a consecutive 15 year span usually does not apply.

The inferiority complex that Seahawks fans have towards the Niners rivals the one the RedSox had of the Yankees from 1918-2004. It's completely understandable of course, given that the Seahawks franchise has never been worth a single god damn thing, ever, and the Niners are on any short list for the pre-eminent franchise in the history of the NFL. But it's still annoying.


Niner fans seem to have a totally undeserved sense that their team, which has no title in nearly 20 years and has been outclassed by the Seahawks since they joined the division 11 seasons ago, is superior to the rest of the NFL.
 
2013-08-14 07:15:36 PM  

Shame Us: Niner fans seem to have a totally undeserved sense that their team, which has no title in nearly 20 years and has been outclassed by the Seahawks since they joined the division 11 seasons ago, is superior to the rest of the NFL.


Yawn.
 
2013-08-14 07:16:06 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: Shame Us: Niner fans seem to have a totally undeserved sense that their team, which has no title in nearly 20 years and has been outclassed by the Seahawks since they joined the division 11 seasons ago, is superior to the rest of the NFL.

Yawn.


Exactly.
 
2013-08-14 07:44:37 PM  

Shame Us: Why Would I Read the Article: SenorBenedict: Son do you know what cherry picking is? Because selecting a consecutive 15 year span usually does not apply.

The inferiority complex that Seahawks fans have towards the Niners rivals the one the RedSox had of the Yankees from 1918-2004. It's completely understandable of course, given that the Seahawks franchise has never been worth a single god damn thing, ever, and the Niners are on any short list for the pre-eminent franchise in the history of the NFL. But it's still annoying.

Niner fans seem to have a totally undeserved sense that their team, which has no title in nearly 20 years and has been outclassed by the Seahawks since they joined the division 11 seasons ago, is superior to the rest of the NFL.


"The nothing we've achieved is so much better than the nothing that you've achieved!  Except all those achievements we're ignoring that came before."
 
2013-08-14 07:53:14 PM  
Whar preseason Jake? Whar?
 
2013-08-14 07:57:35 PM  

Dafatone: Shame Us: Why Would I Read the Article: SenorBenedict: Son do you know what cherry picking is? Because selecting a consecutive 15 year span usually does not apply.

The inferiority complex that Seahawks fans have towards the Niners rivals the one the RedSox had of the Yankees from 1918-2004. It's completely understandable of course, given that the Seahawks franchise has never been worth a single god damn thing, ever, and the Niners are on any short list for the pre-eminent franchise in the history of the NFL. But it's still annoying.

Niner fans seem to have a totally undeserved sense that their team, which has no title in nearly 20 years and has been outclassed by the Seahawks since they joined the division 11 seasons ago, is superior to the rest of the NFL.

"The nothing we've achieved is so much better than the nothing that you've achieved!  Except all those achievements we're ignoring that came before."



The Seahawks and Niners are both very nice and both equally capable of losing to Denver in February.
 
2013-08-14 08:04:08 PM  

IAmRight: I will say that the part where he said "as soon as you see Ryan Mathews get tackled, you assume he's injured" is very true.


What play was he talking about? The one where Fluker and Clarey got enough push for Mathews to get nine yards on fourth and inches?

And if that's the best Seattle's first team defense could do the Niners fans in here should be excited.
 
2013-08-14 08:13:02 PM  

Dafatone: Shame Us: Why Would I Read the Article: SenorBenedict: Son do you know what cherry picking is? Because selecting a consecutive 15 year span usually does not apply.

The inferiority complex that Seahawks fans have towards the Niners rivals the one the RedSox had of the Yankees from 1918-2004. It's completely understandable of course, given that the Seahawks franchise has never been worth a single god damn thing, ever, and the Niners are on any short list for the pre-eminent franchise in the history of the NFL. But it's still annoying.

Niner fans seem to have a totally undeserved sense that their team, which has no title in nearly 20 years and has been outclassed by the Seahawks since they joined the division 11 seasons ago, is superior to the rest of the NFL.

"The nothing we've achieved is so much better than the nothing that you've achieved!   Except all those achievements we're ignoring that came before."


Ok, let's go back further. Joe Montana was a great QB, as was Steve Young. And the Niners beat the Chargers and Stan Humphries soundly in their last title win, when I was 10. Congratulations to them, from the bottom of my heart. As a Seahawks fan, I'd much rather have our last title be one that's graduated HS by now than none at all.

Since that title (18 seasons, hardly a small sample size), they're 150-137-1 (.521) with one SB appearance, 8 playoff appearances and a 7-8 playoff record. If we "only" do the last 15 years, the numbers are 114-125-1 (.475) with 1 SB appearance, 5 playoff appearances and a 5-5 playoff record. All pretty respectable.

In that same period, the Seahawks are 147-141 (.510) with 1 SB appearance, 8 playoff appearances and a 6-8 playoff record (awfully similar, huh?). "Only" the last 15 years? 124-116 (.517) with 1 SB appearance, 8 playoff appearances and a 6-8 playoff record (wait, that sounds like it's better than the 49ers).

If you want to ride the successes of over 18 years ago, the Niners win, but in those last 18 years? They're basically the Seahawks...except their successes are even further behind them, with 3 of their 8 playoff appearances occurring over 15 years ago. The niners hold superiority over less than half the league over the last 15 years...less even than the Seahawks. But they should have fun taking in those trophies for restoration.
 
2013-08-14 08:15:19 PM  

Wadded Beef: Dafatone: Shame Us: Why Would I Read the Article: SenorBenedict: Son do you know what cherry picking is? Because selecting a consecutive 15 year span usually does not apply.

The inferiority complex that Seahawks fans have towards the Niners rivals the one the RedSox had of the Yankees from 1918-2004. It's completely understandable of course, given that the Seahawks franchise has never been worth a single god damn thing, ever, and the Niners are on any short list for the pre-eminent franchise in the history of the NFL. But it's still annoying.

Niner fans seem to have a totally undeserved sense that their team, which has no title in nearly 20 years and has been outclassed by the Seahawks since they joined the division 11 seasons ago, is superior to the rest of the NFL.

"The nothing we've achieved is so much better than the nothing that you've achieved!  Except all those achievements we're ignoring that came before."


The Seahawks and Niners are both very nice and both equally capable of losing to Denver in February.


If you guys can get by Joe Flacco.
 
2013-08-14 08:27:20 PM  
NINERS RULE SEAHAWKS FANS SUCK BWAHAHAHA!

\amidoingitright?
\\grafs
 
2013-08-14 08:53:25 PM  

JayCab: You mean it took two whole posts for a Seahawks fan to whine about their being disrespected and having the entire league against them?

You guys are slacking. You need to pay more attention... maybe consider some medications that would help with that.


Sigh...can't wait till that Thursday for the smack talk to begin in earnest....
 
2013-08-14 08:59:11 PM  

SenorBenedict: PowerSlacker: If you care about preseason rankings, you need to DIAF.

Look what else is there to talk about sports wise in August?


Pennant Chase, the new EPL season, CFB (a pox on their house), Track and Field World Champsionships...just to name a few
 
2013-08-14 09:00:33 PM  

fatalvenom: SenorBenedict: PowerSlacker: If you care about preseason rankings, you need to DIAF.

Look what else is there to talk about sports wise in August?

The NHL is getting closer...

::runs, ducks out of thread::


Can hear the clanging of vodak bottles as we speak...
 
2013-08-14 09:00:44 PM  

davidphogan: IAmRight: I will say that the part where he said "as soon as you see Ryan Mathews get tackled, you assume he's injured" is very true.

What play was he talking about? The one where Fluker and Clarey got enough push for Mathews to get nine yards on fourth and inches?

And if that's the best Seattle's first team defense could do the Niners fans in here should be excited.


I know we're rebuilding, but the fact that we could hold Seattle's first team to a big fat farking 0 warmed my heart.

And the fact that DJ Fluker road graded the fark through the Seattle's first team DL warmed my heart even further.

/GO BOLTS
 
2013-08-14 09:05:01 PM  

Shame Us: If you want to ride the successes of over 18 years ago, the Niners win, but in those last 18 years?


Speaking for myself, I'm not trying to "ride" anything. I'm happy that the 49ers are good again, and I'm just as happy that there's someone in the division to compete with the team. I'd love to have a proper west coast rivalry going again since there hasn't been a proper geographic rival for the 49ers in-division since the Rams left L.A. I have nothing bad to say about the Seahawks (other than the occasional bashing as to be expected).I'd love to see the Seahawks and Niners face off in the NFC Championship game every year, because it would be awesome and because the last time the 49ers had such a conference rivalry it was with Dallas and, well, fark the Cowboys.

What gets me annoyed about it all, though, are the Seahawks fans that see conspiracy, slight, and offense in every topic. The fans that think that being moderately decent for a decade makes them a special team. Guess what? You're still not doing any better than a perennially mediocre team like Dallas, and remember: fark the Cowboys.

I mainly want to see a respectful, awesome rivalry between the 49ers and Seahawks. We're San Francisco and Seattle, dammit, not Boston and New York! Act like you've been there before, Seahawks fans, let us all cheer our respective teams, give ribbing where required, and unite in our rightful, common hatred of that team in Texas.

Because seriously: fark the Cowboys.

/And the Raiders, too.
 
2013-08-14 09:22:25 PM  
LOL Vikings at 11.
 
2013-08-14 09:28:47 PM  

oh_please: davidphogan: IAmRight: I will say that the part where he said "as soon as you see Ryan Mathews get tackled, you assume he's injured" is very true.

What play was he talking about? The one where Fluker and Clarey got enough push for Mathews to get nine yards on fourth and inches?

And if that's the best Seattle's first team defense could do the Niners fans in here should be excited.

I know we're rebuilding, but the fact that we could hold Seattle's first team to a big fat farking 0 warmed my heart.

And the fact that DJ Fluker road graded the fark through the Seattle's first team DL warmed my heart even further.

/GO BOLTS


I Agree 100%. I love the McCoy style of practice and playcalling. The Erhart-Perkins offense seems perfect for a Rivers type, and the high speed practices make me wonder if they're going no huddle this year.

The offensive line is a lot better, the WRs even without DX looks good (I'm a fan of DePalma and Luke Tasker), Woodhead and Phillips should be nice additions, and the defense looked solid last year and better on paper this year.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Chargers, Broncos and Chiefs are all contenders this year.
 
2013-08-14 09:29:06 PM  

Shame Us: Wadded Beef: Dafatone: Shame Us: Why Would I Read the Article: SenorBenedict: Son do you know what cherry picking is? Because selecting a consecutive 15 year span usually does not apply.

The inferiority complex that Seahawks fans have towards the Niners rivals the one the RedSox had of the Yankees from 1918-2004. It's completely understandable of course, given that the Seahawks franchise has never been worth a single god damn thing, ever, and the Niners are on any short list for the pre-eminent franchise in the history of the NFL. But it's still annoying.

Niner fans seem to have a totally undeserved sense that their team, which has no title in nearly 20 years and has been outclassed by the Seahawks since they joined the division 11 seasons ago, is superior to the rest of the NFL.

"The nothing we've achieved is so much better than the nothing that you've achieved!  Except all those achievements we're ignoring that came before."


The Seahawks and Niners are both very nice and both equally capable of losing to Denver in February.

If you guys can get by Joe Flacco.



Not a problem.
 
2013-08-14 09:36:07 PM  

jackiepaper: The Niners are very good. The Seahawks are very good too. In fact, those two are the best teams in the NFC (if not NFL). The Niners are probably slightly better. It's going to be fun watching them play.

/enough of the back and forth, kids
//But then again, damn are Hawks fans touchy and uppity.


I think you're overlooking Aaron Rodgers and the Packers, the Rams and Cards defense being better than last year AND get better offenses, plus Breezus and don't count out the NFC Least yearly kerfluffle of 3teamtiegoingintoweek17everyyear.
 
2013-08-14 09:51:11 PM  

davidphogan: I'm a fan of DePalma


Me, too. If he doesn't make the team, I have no idea why...he just makes plays. And Sorensen has to be #2 ahead of Clipboard Jesus.
 
2013-08-14 09:58:27 PM  

PowerSlacker: SenorBenedict: PowerSlacker: If you care about preseason rankings, you need to DIAF.

Look what else is there to talk about sports wise in August?

Nothing.  It's the worst sports month of the year.


July would like a word.  Nothing but Baseball.  Barf.
 
2013-08-14 10:04:56 PM  

mikaloyd: Whar preseason Jake? Whar?


Sanchize deserves it for that stupid taint
 
2013-08-14 10:07:27 PM  

Wadded Beef: Shame Us: Wadded Beef: Dafatone: Shame Us: Why Would I Read the Article: SenorBenedict: Son do you know what cherry picking is? Because selecting a consecutive 15 year span usually does not apply.

The inferiority complex that Seahawks fans have towards the Niners rivals the one the RedSox had of the Yankees from 1918-2004. It's completely understandable of course, given that the Seahawks franchise has never been worth a single god damn thing, ever, and the Niners are on any short list for the pre-eminent franchise in the history of the NFL. But it's still annoying.

Niner fans seem to have a totally undeserved sense that their team, which has no title in nearly 20 years and has been outclassed by the Seahawks since they joined the division 11 seasons ago, is superior to the rest of the NFL.

"The nothing we've achieved is so much better than the nothing that you've achieved!  Except all those achievements we're ignoring that came before."


The Seahawks and Niners are both very nice and both equally capable of losing to Denver in February.

If you guys can get by Joe Flacco.


Not a problem.


Serious.  We got Dookie Nachos covering the back now.  Look out biatches.
 
2013-08-14 10:13:54 PM  

davidphogan: oh_please: davidphogan: IAmRight: I will say that the part where he said "as soon as you see Ryan Mathews get tackled, you assume he's injured" is very true.

What play was he talking about? The one where Fluker and Clarey got enough push for Mathews to get nine yards on fourth and inches?

And if that's the best Seattle's first team defense could do the Niners fans in here should be excited.

I know we're rebuilding, but the fact that we could hold Seattle's first team to a big fat farking 0 warmed my heart.

And the fact that DJ Fluker road graded the fark through the Seattle's first team DL warmed my heart even further.

/GO BOLTS

I Agree 100%. I love the McCoy style of practice and playcalling. The Erhart-Perkins offense seems perfect for a Rivers type, and the high speed practices make me wonder if they're going no huddle this year.

The offensive line is a lot better, the WRs even without DX looks good (I'm a fan of DePalma and Luke Tasker), Woodhead and Phillips should be nice additions, and the defense looked solid last year and better on paper this year.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Chargers, Broncos and Chiefs are all contenders this year.


Blind optimism this completely baseless is absolutely adorable.
 
2013-08-14 10:30:18 PM  

elguerodiablo: Blind optimism this completely baseless is absolutely adorable.


Oh, sure, it's time of the season!

Read this article about DJ Fluker, and if it doesn't get a little dusty, you just suck.
 
2013-08-14 11:06:37 PM  

rickythepenguin: uhh......what?


Dallas is for sure a really good team "on paper", they have been for a few years. They just don't execute.
 
2013-08-14 11:24:33 PM  

TheJoe03: rickythepenguin: uhh......what?

Dallas is for sure a really good team "on paper", they have been for a few years. They just don't execute.


Over at least the past five years Dallas has been the team that, more than any other, always looks great, seems to have all the pieces together, and then when they hit the field it just somehow falls apart.
 
2013-08-14 11:49:02 PM  

spiderpaz: ...(trolling)...


BFD. Narrowly lost the SB or not, they were still a loser, like 30 other NFL teams last year.

Let's not forget what they did to your Whiners in the last game. Prepare for more of the same. Of course, the bulk of SF is used to taking it up the ass, so I imagine everyone there is already prepared.
 
2013-08-14 11:51:37 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: Of course, the bulk of SF is used to taking it up the ass, so I imagine everyone there is already prepared.


Well it's the Santa Clara 49ers now, so less gay and more boring, suburban, and Asian.
 
2013-08-15 12:18:06 AM  
I don't know if anyone has pointed this out yet, but the top 12 are last year's playoff teams.  That makes some sense at least.

/just food for thought
// for those who are shocked about certain teams up that high, or others being excluded
 
2013-08-15 01:34:16 AM  
Graphs!  Graphs!  Graphs!  Graphs!

/I know it's too soon
 
2013-08-15 02:24:45 AM  
Chargers fans are aware that a) that wasn't our first team offense, and b) the offense tends to take a while to get warmed up, right? Not to mention all the calls that extended your drives. I wouldn't get too excited.

/and I like the Chargers, having lived there four years and with them having won my first big futures bet
 
2013-08-15 03:17:50 AM  

Shame Us: Dafatone: Shame Us: Why Would I Read the Article: SenorBenedict: Son do you know what cherry picking is? Because selecting a consecutive 15 year span usually does not apply.

The inferiority complex that Seahawks fans have towards the Niners rivals the one the RedSox had of the Yankees from 1918-2004. It's completely understandable of course, given that the Seahawks franchise has never been worth a single god damn thing, ever, and the Niners are on any short list for the pre-eminent franchise in the history of the NFL. But it's still annoying.

Niner fans seem to have a totally undeserved sense that their team, which has no title in nearly 20 years and has been outclassed by the Seahawks since they joined the division 11 seasons ago, is superior to the rest of the NFL.

"The nothing we've achieved is so much better than the nothing that you've achieved!   Except all those achievements we're ignoring that came before."

Ok, let's go back further. Joe Montana was a great QB, as was Steve Young. And the Niners beat the Chargers and Stan Humphries soundly in their last title win, when I was 10. Congratulations to them, from the bottom of my heart. As a Seahawks fan, I'd much rather have our last title be one that's graduated HS by now than none at all.

Since that title (18 seasons, hardly a small sample size), they're 150-137-1 (.521) with one SB appearance, 8 playoff appearances and a 7-8 playoff record. If we "only" do the last 15 years, the numbers are 114-125-1 (.475) with 1 SB appearance, 5 playoff appearances and a 5-5 playoff record. All pretty respectable.

In that same period, the Seahawks are 147-141 (.510) with 1 SB appearance, 8 playoff appearances and a 6-8 playoff record (awfully similar, huh?). "Only" the last 15 years? 124-116 (.517) with 1 SB appearance, 8 playoff appearances and a 6-8 playoff record (wait, that sounds like it's better than the 49ers).

If you want to ride the successes of over 18 years ago, the Niners win, but in those last 18 years? ...


So what you're saying is, the nothing you've achieved is so much better than the nothing we've achieved?
 
2013-08-15 07:31:35 AM  
bengals #6? That's some fail right there
 
2013-08-15 09:54:12 AM  

abhorrent1: bengals #6? That's some fail right there



Care to elaborate?  Because I see a team that's been to the playoffs 3 of the last 4 years, with a solid D, a good QB-> receiver combo, a strong RB with a promising backup, a healthy o-Line for the first time in years (though we'll see how long that lasts).

What's your counter?  Arrests that happened 10 years ago? Players who are no longer with the team?
 
2013-08-15 10:14:47 AM  

stappawho: spiderpaz: Shame Us: Record since Seahawks joined NFC West:

SF - 80-95-1 - 3 playoff appearances, 4-3 playoff record, 1 SB
SEA - 92-84 - 7 playoff appearances, 6-7 playoff record, 1 SB

Who's the little brother?

That's cute, SEA fans are trying to take credit for the 49ers spending 15 years rebuilding rather than all of the other obvious REAL factors that caused it.  If we're going to cherry pick statistics, let's just look at the last 2 years why don't we.

So, you are saying that when the two teams joined the same division is not a good point to start a comparison?  You know, when they play each other two times a year.

We could extend back to when competent ownership purchased the Seahawks.


Then why didn't you just site the head to head record between the two team?  Honestly the Rams have been more trouble for the 9ers than the hawks over the last 15 years.  And it's highly coincidental that you pick a time frame that overlaps the 49er franchises decline exactly - which had nothing to do with the shehawks joining the conference.  You didn't pick overall record.  You didn't pick the last 2 years.  You ignored those and picked the only time range that would support the point (was there one really?) you were trying to make:  THAT is cherry picking.

[bears repeating.jpg]
Niners: Division title last two years
Hawks: Uh... it's been a while

Niners: Went to NFC Championship both of the last 2 seasons.
Hawks: Uh... it's been a while.

Niners: Went to Super Bowl last year, narrowly lost.
Hawks: Uh... it's been a while.

Niners: Won five of last six head-to-head games.
Hawks: Won one of last six head-to-head games.

Niners: 9 players elected by NFL players to top 100
Hawks: 5 players elected by NFL players to top 100

Niners: Fans celebrate substance of repeated trips deep into post-season.
Hawks: Fans make a lot of noise.
 
2013-08-15 10:27:17 AM  
At Eastern Motors
Your job's your credit.
 
2013-08-15 11:04:54 AM  

davidphogan: IAmRight: I will say that the part where he said "as soon as you see Ryan Mathews get tackled, you assume he's injured" is very true.

What play was he talking about? The one where Fluker and Clarey got enough push for Mathews to get nine yards on fourth and inches?

And if that's the best Seattle's first team defense could do the Niners fans in here should be excited.


That was the worst Seattle's first team defense (minus 4 starters) could do.
 
2013-08-15 12:10:25 PM  

spiderpaz: stappawho: spiderpaz: Shame Us: Record since Seahawks joined NFC West:

SF - 80-95-1 - 3 playoff appearances, 4-3 playoff record, 1 SB
SEA - 92-84 - 7 playoff appearances, 6-7 playoff record, 1 SB

Who's the little brother?

That's cute, SEA fans are trying to take credit for the 49ers spending 15 years rebuilding rather than all of the other obvious REAL factors that caused it.  If we're going to cherry pick statistics, let's just look at the last 2 years why don't we.

So, you are saying that when the two teams joined the same division is not a good point to start a comparison?  You know, when they play each other two times a year.

We could extend back to when competent ownership purchased the Seahawks.

Then why didn't you just site the head to head record between the two team?  Honestly the Rams have been more trouble for the 9ers than the hawks over the last 15 years.  And it's highly coincidental that you pick a time frame that overlaps the 49er franchises decline exactly - which had nothing to do with the shehawks joining the conference.  You didn't pick overall record.  You didn't pick the last 2 years.  You ignored those and picked the only time range that would support the point (was there one really?) you were trying to make:  THAT is cherry picking.

[bears repeating.jpg]
Niners: Division title last two years
Hawks: Uh... it's been a while

Niners: Went to NFC Championship both of the last 2 seasons.
Hawks: Uh... it's been a while.

Niners: Went to Super Bowl last year, narrowly lost.
Hawks: Uh... it's been a while.

Niners: Won five of last six head-to-head games.
Hawks: Won one of last six head-to-head games.

Niners: 9 players elected by NFL players to top 100
Hawks: 5 players elected by NFL players to top 100

Niners: Fans celebrate substance of repeated trips deep into post-season.
Hawks: Fans make a lot of noise.


The last 2 years are included in the last 11/15/18 years which I pointed out above and you ignored. Overall head-to-head record? 14-14, after last season. Are you happy now?

When the "decline" of your team lasts over a decade...you're just not that good of a team.
 
2013-08-15 01:03:19 PM  

Dafatone: So what you're saying is, the nothing you've achieved is so much better than the nothing we've achieved?


What I'm saying is the 49ers have nothing to flex on except stuff that happened back before the teams were in the same division, so calm down with this "oh you're like annoying little brothers" crap. (Not you specifically, other 49ers fans).

I haven't verified, but they're 14-14 against each other in history, they were 1-1 last year, they both have an entirety of one Super Bowl loss since becoming division opponents...they were by and large the same damn team last year and they probably will be again this year.

My only issue with the 49ers is that, because they were good 20 years ago, they have a bigger fanbase and therefore get the hookup with scheduling.
 
2013-08-15 01:24:12 PM  

IAmRight: Dafatone: So what you're saying is, the nothing you've achieved is so much better than the nothing we've achieved?

What I'm saying is the 49ers have nothing to flex on except stuff that happened back before the teams were in the same division, so calm down with this "oh you're like annoying little brothers" crap. (Not you specifically, other 49ers fans).

I haven't verified, but they're 14-14 against each other in history, they were 1-1 last year, they both have an entirety of one Super Bowl loss since becoming division opponents...they were by and large the same damn team last year and they probably will be again this year.

My only issue with the 49ers is that, because they were good 20 years ago, they have a bigger fanbase and therefore get the hookup with scheduling.


Do you have the same problem with the Cowboys, Packers, Steelers?  Also - the Niners were good 20 years ago, but they also are good right now ... by most accounts better than any other team currently.
 
2013-08-15 01:34:29 PM  

IAmRight: Dafatone: So what you're saying is, the nothing you've achieved is so much better than the nothing we've achieved?

What I'm saying is the 49ers have nothing to flex on except stuff that happened back before the teams were in the same division, so calm down with this "oh you're like annoying little brothers" crap. (Not you specifically, other 49ers fans).

I haven't verified, but they're 14-14 against each other in history, they were 1-1 last year, they both have an entirety of one Super Bowl loss since becoming division opponents...they were by and large the same damn team last year and they probably will be again this year.

My only issue with the 49ers is that, because they were good 20 years ago, they have a bigger fanbase and therefore get the hookup with scheduling.


Yeah, the scheduling is frustrating.  It's nice that the Niners are on tv more, since I live in the middle of nowhere (South Dakota!)  I generally don't get this sort of debate.  Last few comments are all "your team hasn't been good for 20 years, they're not that good!" or "you never won a ring, you suck!" etc.  It makes even less sense in college football, but, teams change.  We're talking about the upcoming season.  Anything can happen.  The Cowboys, for instance, could win (ew).  Other than Tony Romo's spotty play in a small number of playoff games, there's no reason to believe that a star on a helmet is some sort of curse that means no success in the playoffs.

You hear this all the time in college ball.  "There's no way Michigan beats Alabama, they never beat the SEC" or something.  The team we're talking about has, literally, zero overlap with the past teams that this is drawn on.  Puffing your chest about your team's history is stupid.  Gloating over another team's history is also stupid.

/That being said, the Phillies have the most losses of any team in any sport in any league in any country ever.
 
2013-08-15 01:47:35 PM  

spiderpaz: Do you have the same problem with the Cowboys, Packers, Steelers?  Also - the Niners were good 20 years ago, but they also are good right now ... by most accounts better than any other team currently.


None of them are division rivals, so I don't care about them.

And the Seahawks are every bit as good as the 49ers, but they don't get the benefit of the scheduling doubt, so don't pretend it's because they're good right now.
 
2013-08-15 02:00:27 PM  

spiderpaz: stappawho: spiderpaz: Shame Us: Record since Seahawks joined NFC West:

SF - 80-95-1 - 3 playoff appearances, 4-3 playoff record, 1 SB
SEA - 92-84 - 7 playoff appearances, 6-7 playoff record, 1 SB

Who's the little brother?

That's cute, SEA fans are trying to take credit for the 49ers spending 15 years rebuilding rather than all of the other obvious REAL factors that caused it.  If we're going to cherry pick statistics, let's just look at the last 2 years why don't we.

So, you are saying that when the two teams joined the same division is not a good point to start a comparison?  You know, when they play each other two times a year.

We could extend back to when competent ownership purchased the Seahawks.

Then why didn't you just site the head to head record between the two team?  Honestly the Rams have been more trouble for the 9ers than the hawks over the last 15 years.  And it's highly coincidental that you pick a time frame that overlaps the 49er franchises decline exactly - which had nothing to do with the shehawks joining the conference.  You didn't pick overall record.  You didn't pick the last 2 years.  You ignored those and picked the only time range that would support the point (was there one really?) you were trying to make:  THAT is cherry picking.

[bears repeating.jpg]
Niners: Division title last two years
Hawks: Uh... it's been a while

Niners: Went to NFC Championship both of the last 2 seasons.
Hawks: Uh... it's been a while.

Niners: Went to Super Bowl last year, narrowly lost.
Hawks: Uh... it's been a while.

Niners: Won five of last six head-to-head games.
Hawks: Won one of last six head-to-head games.

Niners: 9 players elected by NFL players to top 100
Hawks: 5 players elected by NFL players to top 100

Niners: Fans celebrate substance of repeated trips deep into post-season.
Hawks: Fans make a lot of noise.


Kap has no one to throw to outside of Davis and Boldin.   Gore is old Kendall Hunter nothing special,  James is a midget.   I see a bunch of close wins or loses.  8-8    Squawks take that division.
 
2013-08-15 02:57:02 PM  

IAmRight: spiderpaz: Do you have the same problem with the Cowboys, Packers, Steelers?  Also - the Niners were good 20 years ago, but they also are good right now ... by most accounts better than any other team currently.

None of them are division rivals, so I don't care about them.

And the Seahawks are every bit as good as the 49ers, but they don't get the benefit of the scheduling doubt, so don't pretend it's because they're good right now.


What benefit are the niners getting on scheduling?  They start out the season 8, @3, 12, @16, 5, and they travel more than any other team this season (30 thousand + miles)
 
2013-08-15 03:08:10 PM  

spiderpaz: What benefit are the niners getting on scheduling?  They start out the season 8, @3, 12, @16, 5, and they travel more than any other team this season (30 thousand + miles)


Get the tougher teams at home and they have only two 10 am games to Seattle's five. They also get more late-night games against east coast teams. Oh, and they have a road game against a team that's also on the road.
 
2013-08-15 04:27:09 PM  

IAmRight: spiderpaz: What benefit are the niners getting on scheduling?  They start out the season 8, @3, 12, @16, 5, and they travel more than any other team this season (30 thousand + miles)

Get the tougher teams at home and they have only two 10 am games to Seattle's five. They also get more late-night games against east coast teams. Oh, and they have a road game against a team that's also on the road.


Well you might have a point with the 10 am games, but one could argue that's kind of balanced by the mileage (although a big part of that is the game in London).
 
2013-08-15 06:08:37 PM  

IAmRight: Chargers fans are aware that a) that wasn't our first team offense, and b) the offense tends to take a while to get warmed up, right? Not to mention all the calls that extended your drives. I wouldn't get too excited.

/and I like the Chargers, having lived there four years and with them having won my first big futures bet


I'm not calling us a playoff team, hell, we're in full rebuilding mode after AJ Smith completely torched our cap room to the ground...but it did my heart good to see Russell Wilson running like a scared little girl.
 
2013-08-15 06:26:00 PM  

oh_please: IAmRight: Chargers fans are aware that a) that wasn't our first team offense, and b) the offense tends to take a while to get warmed up, right? Not to mention all the calls that extended your drives. I wouldn't get too excited.

/and I like the Chargers, having lived there four years and with them having won my first big futures bet

I'm not calling us a playoff team, hell, we're in full rebuilding mode after AJ Smith completely torched our cap room to the ground...but it did my heart good to see Russell Wilson running like a scared little girl.


You mean scrambling for first downs?
 
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