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(Forbes)   "The War on Drugs is over. The guys with the bongs have won"   (forbes.com ) divider line
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2013-08-14 02:21:30 PM  
Yeah?!?  Well, that's just like...your opinion, man.

Wait, what?
 
2013-08-14 02:41:20 PM  
i330.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-14 02:41:46 PM  
It's been the longest, that's for sure.
 
2013-08-14 02:42:32 PM  
Washington State apparently misunderestimated the amount of legal weed needed in the retail system by about half, and people were calling that estimate ridiculously high at the time.
 
2013-08-14 02:42:33 PM  
I figured it would be the guys with the vaporizers. After all, they should have the better stamina and lung capacity.
 
2013-08-14 02:42:59 PM  
Well, no, the drug lords won, won so well that they'll never be unseated from their unofficial positions of power due to entrenched organized crime syndicates under them.  Potheads end up in jail, though, and we pay for it, so everyone else lost.
 
2013-08-14 02:43:39 PM  
It's not a war, it's an insurgency.
 
2013-08-14 02:44:30 PM  

files.myopera.com
GOOD, mon

 
2013-08-14 02:44:44 PM  
Are we really supposed to believe dread pirate roberts is anything other than someone making huge profits from enabling sales of illicit goods and services? All the libertarian stuff just seems to be justificatory hype to absolve him and his followers of any kind of moral obligation
 
2013-08-14 02:44:58 PM  
Inconsolable:

www.bloguinbaseball.com
 
2013-08-14 02:45:30 PM  
FTFA: The next day, an employee of Atlantis named "Heisenberg"...

Real original, guy.  I bet no one's used that before.
 
2013-08-14 02:45:34 PM  
The war on drugs was never about drugs. The war on drugs was a war on personal responsibility. And it pretty much already won in the United States.
 
2013-08-14 02:45:43 PM  
www.wisconsinaviationhalloffame.org

VICTORY!


?DNRTA
 
2013-08-14 02:46:05 PM  
'I am not the Dread Pirate Roberts' he said. 'My name is Ryan; I inherited the ship from the previous Dread Pirate Roberts, just as you will inherit it from me. The man I inherited it from is not the real Dread Pirate Roberts either. His name was Cummerbund. The real Roberts has been retired 15 years and living like a king in Patagonia.'
 
2013-08-14 02:47:28 PM  
AOL seems to have an almost supernatural ability to make people lose interest in things that were once popular. I say we legalize drugs, and put AOL in charge of selling them.
 
2013-08-14 02:48:40 PM  
No one has "won". Stoners will get their weed decriminalized but illegal hard drugs will still flow into the country, people will still get beheaded by drug lords, and nothing will change.
 
2013-08-14 02:49:04 PM  

MFAWG: Washington State apparently misunderestimated the amount of legal weed needed in the retail system e.


So, they not only underestimated, but totally went about it in completely the wrong direction? Sounds about right.
 
2013-08-14 02:49:21 PM  
By the time I figure out the whole bitcoin/Silk Road thing, weed will be legal anyway, and I'll have no use for it.

Then, I'll have all these bitcoins and nothing but banned French cheese to spend them on.
 
2013-08-14 02:49:40 PM  
Firefox 23 plus TOR equals 100,000 downloads in 72 hours:

http://www.dailytech.com/PirateBrowser+Firefox+23++Tor+Scores+100000 +D ownloads+in+3+Days/article33164.htm

Love me some TORg

i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-08-14 02:51:36 PM  
Do you even have a job? Are you employed?
 
2013-08-14 02:52:06 PM  
I think TOR was recently compromised, wasn't it?
 
2013-08-14 02:52:09 PM  

When it comes to TOR, Ed Wood was way ahead of his time...
drewfriedman.net

 
2013-08-14 02:53:42 PM  

vudukungfu: Do you even have a job? Are you employed?


Dressed like that...on a weekday? Ah yes Fark it, that's your answer to everything.

/bongs are not the preferred smoking accessory, dude, vaporizers please
 
2013-08-14 02:53:52 PM  
The Silk Road can be a scary farking place.
Not because you can purchase drugs on there, drugs are everywhere anyway, but because of the other stuff on offer. I forget what exactly it was now but a month or so ago I saw chemicals for sale that assured death of an adult at a dosage one tenth of the amount on sale, so that's enough poison to kill ten men for whatever the exchange rate was at the time, $20 if I recall correctly.
Not saying suicide is bad, and that's what the item on sale was for, but enough for ten men at a time?
 
2013-08-14 02:55:48 PM  

uttertosh: MFAWG: Washington State apparently misunderestimated the amount of legal weed needed in the retail system e.

So, they not only underestimated, but totally went about it in completely the wrong direction? Sounds about right.


They did basically NO research, just pulled a number out of their ass and went about trying to set up licensing and distribution with that number.
 
2013-08-14 02:56:16 PM  

21-7-b: All the libertarian stuff just seems to be justificatory hype to absolve him and his followers of any kind of moral obligation


Isn't that the definition of libertarianism?
 
2013-08-14 02:56:45 PM  
The point of the war on drugs is not to stop drugs.
The point of the war on drugs is to catch idiots that break rules that don't suit them.
Sure, drug use is a victim-less crime. Yes, the real problem is the prohibition, not the substance.
But that's not the point.  DUH! 
The drug laws exist for a reason and no, it isn't to enrich the owners of private prisons.
DRUGS ARE A GIANT BUG-LIGHT FOR RECKLESS IDIOTS
There is no high good enough to risk a week in jail and yet these idiots continue to risk years!
Why?
Because they are the kind of person who disobeys rules when they feel like it.
In other words, they are dangerous to the hive collective.
If you do not follow a rule when breaking the rule has harsh consequences then you are a stupid reckless person and your recklessness is dangerous to the rest of us.
The purpose of drug laws is to catch idiot rule breakers.
... and mark them with a criminal record.
.... and protect others from them.
Not because they are drug users, but rather BECAUSE THEY ARE IDIOT RULE BREAKERS.

Disagree?  You sound like a druggie.
 
2013-08-14 02:58:14 PM  
Silk Road is too expensive.
 
2013-08-14 02:58:24 PM  
media.avclub.com

Oblig and should have been boobies
 
2013-08-14 03:00:12 PM  

TheWhoppah: The point of the war on drugs is not to stop drugs.
The point of the war on drugs is to catch idiots that break rules that don't suit them.
Sure, drug use is a victim-less crime. Yes, the real problem is the prohibition, not the substance.
But that's not the point.  DUH! 
The drug laws exist for a reason and no, it isn't to enrich the owners of private prisons.
DRUGS ARE A GIANT BUG-LIGHT FOR RECKLESS IDIOTS
There is no high good enough to risk a week in jail and yet these idiots continue to risk years!
Why?
Because they are the kind of person who disobeys rules when they feel like it.
In other words, they are dangerous to the hive collective.
If you do not follow a rule when breaking the rule has harsh consequences then you are a stupid reckless person and your recklessness is dangerous to the rest of us.
The purpose of drug laws is to catch idiot rule breakers.
... and mark them with a criminal record.
.... and protect others from them.
Not because they are drug users, but rather BECAUSE THEY ARE IDIOT RULE BREAKERS.

Disagree?  You sound like a druggie.


That's okay, you sound high on your own self-righteousness. And ignorant. I'd rather sound like a druggie anyday.
 
2013-08-14 03:00:51 PM  
The war on drugs started because of the violence of a$$holes in florida
it's things like this that can remove the OTHER greedy human elements
leaving you with bean counters, businesspeople and the growers/chemists
that would be farking magnificent
 
2013-08-14 03:01:36 PM  

TheWhoppah: The point of the war on drugs is not to stop drugs.
The point of the war on drugs is to catch idiots that break rules that don't suit them.
Sure, drug use is a victim-less crime. Yes, the real problem is the prohibition, not the substance.
But that's not the point.  DUH! 
The drug laws exist for a reason and no, it isn't to enrich the owners of private prisons.
DRUGS ARE A GIANT BUG-LIGHT FOR RECKLESS IDIOTS
There is no high good enough to risk a week in jail and yet these idiots continue to risk years!
Why?
Because they are the kind of person who disobeys rules when they feel like it.
In other words, they are dangerous to the hive collective.
If you do not follow a rule when breaking the rule has harsh consequences then you are a stupid reckless person and your recklessness is dangerous to the rest of us.
The purpose of drug laws is to catch idiot rule breakers.
... and mark them with a criminal record.
.... and protect others from them.
Not because they are drug users, but rather BECAUSE THEY ARE IDIOT RULE BREAKERS.

Disagree?  You sound like a druggie.


Who made you hall-monitor?
 
2013-08-14 03:02:46 PM  

TheWhoppah: The point of the war on drugs is not to stop drugs.
The point of the war on drugs is to catch idiots that break rules that don't suit them.
Sure, drug use is a victim-less crime. Yes, the real problem is the prohibition, not the substance.
But that's not the point.  DUH! 
The drug laws exist for a reason and no, it isn't to enrich the owners of private prisons.
DRUGS ARE A GIANT BUG-LIGHT FOR RECKLESS IDIOTS
There is no high good enough to risk a week in jail and yet these idiots continue to risk years!
Why?
Because they are the kind of person who disobeys rules when they feel like it.
In other words, they are dangerous to the hive collective.
If you do not follow a rule when breaking the rule has harsh consequences then you are a stupid reckless person and your recklessness is dangerous to the rest of us.
The purpose of drug laws is to catch idiot rule breakers.
... and mark them with a criminal record.
.... and protect others from them.
Not because they are drug users, but rather BECAUSE THEY ARE IDIOT RULE BREAKERS.

Disagree?  You sound like a druggie.


Actually, the times I got caught doing illegal drugs, it was a fine. No jail time.

Weirdly enough, I've also always been employed and didn't steal or OD on heroin or kill anyone.

It's almost as if smoking weed isn't a gateway to anything.
 
2013-08-14 03:03:30 PM  
Damn it!

First we lost a war on a person's basic ability to control what they put in their body...

What's next, loosing a war on the emotion of terror?

That's Communist talk!  We will prevail in our WAR on PEOPLE who are deemed a deterrent to our cau$e!
 
2013-08-14 03:03:38 PM  

Stibium: 21-7-b: All the libertarian stuff just seems to be justificatory hype to absolve him and his followers of any kind of moral obligation

Isn't that the definition of libertarianism?


It seems to be
 
2013-08-14 03:03:48 PM  
the Dread Pirate Roberts and any other stakeholders in Silk Road have likely amassed millions in profits.

Millions in bitcoins. How do you even turn them into real money?
 
2013-08-14 03:03:58 PM  

TheWhoppah: The point of the war on drugs is not to stop drugs.
The point of the war on drugs is to catch idiots that break rules that don't suit them.
Sure, drug use is a victim-less crime. Yes, the real problem is the prohibition, not the substance.
But that's not the point.  DUH! 
The drug laws exist for a reason and no, it isn't to enrich the owners of private prisons.
DRUGS ARE A GIANT BUG-LIGHT FOR RECKLESS IDIOTS
There is no high good enough to risk a week in jail and yet these idiots continue to risk years!
Why?
Because they are the kind of person who disobeys rules when they feel like it.
In other words, they are dangerous to the hive collective.
If you do not follow a rule when breaking the rule has harsh consequences then you are a stupid reckless person and your recklessness is dangerous to the rest of us.
The purpose of drug laws is to catch idiot rule breakers.
... and mark them with a criminal record.
.... and protect others from them.
Not because they are drug users, but rather BECAUSE THEY ARE IDIOT RULE BREAKERS.

Disagree?  You sound like a druggie.


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The same could be said for every idiot that breaks the rules.  That's why we HAVE rules (laws).  But the drug laws are ridiculous, punish the wrong people, and put far more people in harm's way than they would be otherwise.  The reason people rebel against those rules is because the rules are stupid.
 
2013-08-14 03:04:03 PM  

devine: Who made you hall-monitor?


The power is in the sash

simpsonswiki.net
 
2013-08-14 03:04:14 PM  
I've always maintained that the war on drugs was more about suppressing voting rights than about some kind of concern for the people
 
2013-08-14 03:05:27 PM  

basemetal: I've always maintained that the war on drugs was more about suppressing voting rights than about some kind of concern for the people


Well, and now it's about making money and keeping your bloated budgets.
 
2013-08-14 03:05:40 PM  
TheWhoppah:
If you do not follow a rule when breaking the rule has harsh consequences then you are a stupid reckless person and your recklessness is dangerous to the rest of us.

i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-14 03:07:34 PM  

devine: Who made you hall-monitor?


Its a means justifies the ends type of thing.  We catch people who are willing to break laws they don't feel like following and give them a criminal record.  This way, employers and landlords and anyone else that cares to do a background check can see what type of person you are and make their own decision on whether or not to trust you.  I didn't say that I agree with this scheme.  I only report the news, I don't make it.
 
2013-08-14 03:08:12 PM  
maybe I'm getting old but when I go to a black market I like to go there physically.  The back alleys of Marrakesh, safe house in  Prague or an abandoned factory in Detroit.  The smells, the sights and the possibility of an ambush just adds to the whole jour ne se qua.  Logging on and buying something with bitcoins is like being a clerk
 
2013-08-14 03:08:45 PM  

natas6.0: The war on drugs started because of the violence of a$$holes in florida
it's things like this that can remove the OTHER greedy human elements
leaving you with bean counters, businesspeople and the growers/chemists
that would be farking magnificent


I don't remember it that way, and I'm exactly that old. It was really the spectre of widely available cheap cocaine in the inner cities that got the ball rolling.
 
2013-08-14 03:09:06 PM  

JRoo: It's almost as if smoking weed isn't a gateway to anything.


woooow. Communist Fascist Maoist Hippie Neo-Nazi Anti-Corporate free speech single mom farker non-suit wearing counterculture anti-capitalist moonie, you!

What did I miss?  What would Nixon have added?
 
2013-08-14 03:10:03 PM  

uttertosh: MFAWG: Washington State apparently misunderestimated the amount of legal weed needed in the retail system e.

So, they not only underestimated, but totally went about it in completely the wrong direction? Sounds about right.


It's a word from the dictionary of George W Bush.
 
2013-08-14 03:11:12 PM  
@FloydA - The drug laws were written by the same type of people that supported the laws that Ms. Parks violated so yeah, my point stands... but don't fool yourself into thinking that getting high is some noble form of civil disobedience.  Its not.
 
2013-08-14 03:11:39 PM  

natas6.0: The war on drugs started because of the violence of a$$holes in florida
it's things like this that can remove the OTHER greedy human elements
leaving you with bean counters, businesspeople and the growers/chemists
that would be farking magnificent


I keep reading how it's a safe way to buy drugs that takes organized crime out of the equation. That seems incredibly naive to me. Do you really believe that?
 
2013-08-14 03:12:24 PM  
One of the biggest problems with the War on Drugs and War on Terror is that they've declared "war" on a general idea. An intangible concept. At least with Korea and Vietnam, there were fairly defined enemies which we were fighting. Drugs are a broad concept, unclearly defined.

IMHO, the only drugs we should certainly legalize and regulate are ones produced naturally, such as marijuana and opium. Drugs that are subject to intense manufacturing, such as cocaine, should stay illegal.
 
2013-08-14 03:12:39 PM  

YoOjo: The Silk Road can be a scary farking place.
Not because you can purchase drugs on there, drugs are everywhere anyway, but because of the other stuff on offer. I forget what exactly it was now but a month or so ago I saw chemicals for sale that assured death of an adult at a dosage one tenth of the amount on sale, so that's enough poison to kill ten men for whatever the exchange rate was at the time, $20 if I recall correctly.
Not saying suicide is bad, and that's what the item on sale was for, but enough for ten men at a time?


Have you been to a Pep Boys?
 
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