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(The Atlantic Wire)   I wonder if Larry Ellison's views that NSA surveillance is not just a good thing but "essential" and that the government NEVER misuses this data has anything to do with the fact that the NSA is a very big Oracle client?   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 25
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2013-08-14 11:07:39 AM
Silly me.  Here I thought Java was reason enough to hate Oracle.
 
2013-08-14 11:14:15 AM
The NSA's maintenance fees alone will pay for Larry's America Cup yacht, no doubt.
 
2013-08-14 11:16:34 AM

shifty lookin bleeder: Silly me.  Here I thought Java was reason enough to hate Oracle.


nahh sooo many good reasons to hate Ellison:
-for single-handedly destroying the America's Cup Race
-For trying to cripple Android with blatant patent-trolling
-and now, for being a dedicated swallower of fascism
 
2013-08-14 11:33:19 AM
Ellison looks like a monkey.
 
2013-08-14 11:34:07 AM
We've heard X so let's assume Y which is as terrible as we can imagine.
 
2013-08-14 11:42:04 AM

Magorn: shifty lookin bleeder: Silly me.  Here I thought Java was reason enough to hate Oracle.

nahh sooo many good reasons to hate Ellison:
-for single-handedly destroying the America's Cup Race
-For trying to cripple Android with blatant patent-trolling
-and now, for being a dedicated swallower of fascism


And for destroying OpenSolaris and Ian Murdock's attempt to revive a once great OS.
 
2013-08-14 11:44:21 AM

shifty lookin bleeder: Silly me.  Here I thought Java was reason enough to hate Oracle.


Not to mention their purchase of MySQL. That's gonna end badly.
 
2013-08-14 11:47:23 AM
Ellison's been wanting to take over the world for decades...


All with an Oracle backend, of course.
 
2013-08-14 12:00:16 PM

XMark: shifty lookin bleeder: Silly me.  Here I thought Java was reason enough to hate Oracle.

Not to mention their purchase of MySQL. That's gonna end badly.


People can always switch to MariaDB or (with a bit more effort) PostgreSQL.
 
2013-08-14 12:01:18 PM
Oracle's connections to the security apparatus have deep roots. In fact, the very name of Oracle comes from the code name of a CIA project which the founders had all worked on while at Ampex.
 
2013-08-14 12:07:11 PM

Irving Maimway: And for destroying OpenSolaris and Ian Murdock's attempt to revive a once great OS.


Fortunately, even though Oracle washed their hands of it, it lives on as Illumos. There are several systems built around it, with differing goals: OpenIndiana, OmniOS, SmartOS, and NexentaStor, for instance. I doubt it will ever get the sort of mindshare that Linux has (and it's extra-picky about hardware, really preferring server-class hardware rather than desktop systems), but it still makes a damn fine server/NAS system.

/built my first OpenSolaris setup shortly before Oracle took over Sun and pulled the plug
 
2013-08-14 12:33:57 PM
Larry Ellison: the real life version of Evil Tony Stark.
 
2013-08-14 01:26:33 PM

czetie: Oracle's connections to the security apparatus have deep roots. In fact, the very name of Oracle comes from the code name of a CIA project which the founders had all worked on while at Ampex.


Been that way ever since Colonel Sanders went tits up.
 
2013-08-14 01:28:41 PM
www.zdnet.com
 
2013-08-14 01:44:14 PM
Magorn:

-for single-handedly destroying the America's Cup Race


Why do you say this?

/Not an America's Cup follower
//Not trolling
 
2013-08-14 01:48:31 PM

tennessee.hillbilly: Magorn:

-for single-handedly destroying the America's Cup Race


Why do you say this?

/Not an America's Cup follower
//Not trolling


he won the last one, which mens by the rules of the "sport" he gets to set the design of the next Yacht.  He chose a hyper-advanced design that meant that almost nobody but a billionaire playboy could afford to build one, and as a result the racing feild this year is a whopping 4 boats including his
 
2013-08-14 01:52:51 PM

skinink: Larry Ellison: the real life version of Evil Tony Stark.


Basically Lex Luther, especially given Ellison's newly-developed obsession with real estate.
 
2013-08-14 01:57:12 PM
Oracle is horrendously expensive and farking blows chunks, that's all I need to know to hate Ellison.
 
2013-08-14 02:16:51 PM
While you're at it, you really ought to notice that the members of the House who voted against the recent effort to shut down spying on Americans without a warrant just so happened to be the folks who had been getting fat checks from the companies getting rich spying on Americans.
 
2013-08-14 02:24:38 PM
Magorn:
he won the last one, which mens by the rules of the "sport" he gets to set the design of the next Yacht.  He chose a hyper-advanced design that meant that almost nobody but a billionaire playboy could afford to build one, and as a result the racing feild this year is a whopping 4 boats including his

Right. Because the America's Cup before Ellison was such an egalitarian and open sport for those looking to participate on a budget...

He is trying to turn the affair from being a boring yacht race into something more interesting and exciting to watch. It's always been a bunch of rich guys sailing, but now it's rich guys sailing on super fast, highly advanced, seriously dangerous floating carbon fiber wings. I've never had anything but a passing interest in the America's Cup, but Ellison's version? I'll tune in to watch it.
 
2013-08-14 02:45:28 PM
He looks so Type A that all the NSA has to tell him is they've got his back. If he needs a new heart, they have tracked the 100 most acceptable donors on the planet, and accidents do happen.

Stopped using that expensive Oracle SQL before the advent of the "special commands" like 'SELECT AND RENDER SECRET * WHERE EMAIL CONTAINS @NAUGHTYWORDLIST AND NOT IN @DONORLIST'  although that hierarchical select was awesome.
 
2013-08-14 02:57:54 PM
Either that or the NSA version of the Constitution includes clauses for immediate and mandatory jail terms without trial for any negative talk going their way.
 
2013-08-14 10:28:00 PM
Orin Hatch and some others directly intervened in getting EU approval for Oracle's purchase of Sun Microsystems, which is always sending Java Updates. I wonder how many of those Java updates have a little extra from the NSA. When you think about it, access to information defines access to power.
 
2013-08-14 11:34:43 PM

XMark: Not to mention their purchase of MySQL. That's gonna end badly.


Not for PostgreSQL, it won't.

/honestly, if you use MySQL you probably should have migrated about 10 years ago anyway.
 
2013-08-15 04:11:42 AM
It is essential to finance the purchasing of a Hawaiian island.
 
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